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Mike Day
a Cross Country Rider
from warwickshire, UKDate Reviewed: August 13, 2007
Strengths: reliability and strength.Weaknesses: none so far.Bottom Line: These were and still are the first ever SUP 217's to reach the North East of the UK in the early 90's, bought and haggled direct from the mavic reps car after he had showed them round. I built them up (I used to be and from time to time still am a wheel builder) paying close attention to even spoke tension (use a gauge) and gradually tightened them over the next year! since then they have not been trued or re tensioned ONCE! in at least 15000miles over 14 years, I am a lightish weight @160lbs rider but above all have them built by some-one who knows what they are doing, and then pick a good line down hill!.... eyelet cracking is often caused by uneven loose tension causing stress risers and rim wall wear is done by small stones in brake pads in a few seconds! stop and remove them! the reason they last .... they were built with care! applies to all wheels.
Favorite Trail: any that bans horses
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: Direct from the mavic rep!
Similar Products Used: Mavic 231cd's/ Campag/ Atac/ various others
Bike Setup: 1992 Bontrager Race, rigid thru and thru, maguras [HS11], nuke proof front hub/ XT parallax rear hub, DT swiss double butted spokes and brass nipples.
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Sky
a Cross Country Rider
from Aiea, HIDate Reviewed: August 11, 2005
Strengths: Strong, relatively light wheel, and it looks good!Weaknesses: None so farBottom Line: Great wheel drilled for Presta and hard anodized.
Im 185 and jump off everything in sight but not usually over 2 feet or so. I think hand built wheels are a must because they are stronger and hold their tension longer. I had this one laced up by my LBS.
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$11.00
Purchased At: Nashbar
Similar Products Used: Sun Ditchwitch, Alex DM20, Sun Rhyno lite
Bike Setup: '04 Specialized Hardrock Pro Disk - SS Conversion
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Del Sharp
a Cross Country Rider
from Vail-Breckenridge, CODate Reviewed: March 27, 2005
Strengths: Cool color shifting ano that worked nicely with the ti-dyed spokes. They've lasted over 7 years even while breaking a dozen or so spokes. Last year I converted them with Stan's no problem.Weaknesses: No weaknesses discovered.Bottom Line: Initially, I weighed 165lbs and never was a crazy downhiller type, but by no means a sissy, either and these rims have held up without any problems.
After five years of marriage, I now weigh 185lbs and they are still running true.
Too bad they're French, otherwise I'd buy Mavics again in a heartbeat.
Favorite Trail: Two Elk (or, any trail in Vail)
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At: Mountain Peddler, Minturn, CO
Similar Products Used: OEM
Bike Setup: '95 20" Y-22 (sub 24lbs) Kooka cranks/levers, Specialized ti bb; '00 Cannondale Super V Raven w/Sweet wings 25.5lbs.
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Sam
a Cross Country Rider
from Los AngelesDate Reviewed: February 13, 2005
Strengths: Super lightweight and toughWeaknesses: none yetBottom Line: Before my 217's, I was running a 517 in the rear and a 221 up front. Both went out of true (albeit slightly) after only a handful of rides. The 217's have been subjected to much more punishment that my old wheels ever were, yet they are still as true as they were when I got them. Shaving off some ounces of rotational weight wasn't so bad either.
I don't know what those other people were talking about. These are tough and light wheels.
Favorite Trail: Santa Monica mountains
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: gift
Similar Products Used: All kinds of stuff
Bike Setup: Bianchi Super GL
Mavic 217 SUP on XTR hubs, Wheelsmith hand build
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Skid Marks
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Barbara, CADate Reviewed: September 22, 2003
Strengths: lightweight, strong for XC, CD gray finish helps with durability over the 5 years that I've had this pairWeaknesses: none for me, they have yet to even break a spokeBottom Line: I had my X217 wheelset hand-built from Colorado Cyclist to replace the original wheels on my first surious MTB - Haro. Now they have outlasted the Haro and are on my Kona FS mount. These things were built very sturdy and on the heavier side for durability and it has worked out great for 5 years (6000+ miles off-road) now - CD rims, 14 guage 3-cross, XT hubs, brass nipples. I have only trued the rear wheel twice, guess it helped that I am only 145 lbs. These things have handled 1ft drops, lots of stairs, dried creek bed descends, and all the big hownhill/freeride trails around here without breaking. My friends and I are completely amazed that I am still using them, even after all the hard miles. The wheels' durability was probably also due to the dry riding conditions out here, and my riding style too. I recommend staying away from machine built wheels - HAND BUILT WHEELSETS ARE VERY DURABLE IN MY EXPERIENCE.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$230.00
Purchased At: Colorado Cyclist
Bike Setup: Kona MokoMoko, Kings, Avid arch-rivals, XTR, XT parts, Thomson post & stem
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Keith Denley
a Weekend Warrior
from Cottam, Preston, EnglandDate Reviewed: August 24, 2003
Strengths: Very few other than lightness and fashionably looking good .Weaknesses: I have had very bad experience of Mavic rims in general and the 217SUP in particular. They crack at the spoke holes due to metal fatigue. The spoke pulls out through the rim, even with professionally hand built and trimmed wheels, DESPITE the double eyelets which connect inner and outer walls of the rim box section. The eyelets simply crack in half, putting all the load on one wall of the rim, which is not up to the task. Consequently, Mavic rims are not worth their price. Also, they dent easily on any trail with even moderate size pebbles, despite massive tyres correctly inflated. They are far too narrow & weak for any MTB.Bottom Line: I have read other peoples bad comments on MAVIC rims and agree with them. I feel that, like a racing car engine, Mavic build for a short life at high speed. They are Tour de France people who have crossed into MTBing and think that they can get away with thin wall narrow box sections. They are NOT for the guy who wants to assemble a Bomb-proof dream bike, ride it off road and keep it for a long time. I have had no trouble at all with any other part of my gear, - not even one single spoke. In short, I cannot understand why people trust Mavic in the off road world. They should not be allowed to produce and sell such crap at inflated prices
Favorite Trail: Local canalsside & lanes.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$65.00
Purchased At: H. Hall Cycles, Manchester.
Similar Products Used: Alessa, Weinmann.
Bike Setup: Merlin Titanium MTB frame Deore XTR gears Middleburn cranks Ritchie pedals PACE DH suspension fork. X-lite Titanium bars and seat pillar Deore XT V.brakes Hope hubs. All professionally assembled by one of this countries greatest bike shops.
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Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Salem, OR, USDate Reviewed: June 29, 2003
Strengths: Light, strong.Weaknesses: None yet but apparently I'm in the minority.Bottom Line: I've used the 217 Sup hard as a drive wheel with a Shimano LX hub for 4 or 5 years. Large river bank rocks only navigable at speed, roots, stumps, plenty of air time. Replaced the rear 237 early on when it potato chipped jumping over a log. The 217 has remained true for a long time.
Key seems to be having a good wheel builder build it. He told me the factory built (assembly line) wheels are weaker and that a wheel built by a good builder is much stronger. So far that has seemed to proven true. I just inspected for defects and everything still looks good.
If I weren't able to get a really good builder to lace 'em up I might look to another rim based on a lot of other reviews I've read.
Favorite Trail: Oregon single tracks
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Similar Products Used: Mavic 237
Bike Setup: GT Avalanche aluminum hardtail. Mavic 237 up front and 217 Sup out back.
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Matt M
a Cross Country Rider
from Melbourne AustraliaDate Reviewed: July 7, 2002
Strengths: Nice Stickers.Weaknesses: Metal far too soft.
Eyelets rip out of rim.Bottom Line: From day one the the eyelets started getting stress cracks around them (on the rear wheel). The rear rim needed regular truing to compensate for the spokes slowly pulling out. After two years of normal XC riding the cracks were massive and one day three spokes ripped completely out.
Brake surface is nice but these rims are not suitable for a rear wheel (especially nine speed) as the metal is too soft.
On the up side the stickers are nice and my front rim has hardly been touched in two years and has no cracks.
NOT recommended.
Favorite Trail: Mt Beauty Australia
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Purchased At: Came stock with bike
Similar Products Used: Other stuff
Bike Setup: GIANT ATX 890 (but with Bombers)
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_RatAX
from Sintra, PortugalDate Reviewed: March 21, 2002
Bottom Line: Os aros são bons, mas ao fim de levarem algumas porradas começam a fazer um barulho estranho. Na loja disseram-me q era a junção q se descolava!!! Eu mesmo os arranjei, mas depois de mais umas voltas voltava tudo ao mesmo, akele barulho q mais parece umas chaves a chocalhal...
Aguentam-se bem ás torções, são uma merda depois de umas travagens mais fortes (com os magura hs33), teem boa durabilidade.
Tirando o facto de fazerem esse barulho irritante, acho que foi apenas aquela serie q saiu assim, de resto sao excelentes.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Bike Setup: Uma Kona Explosiva AMARELA !!!!
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Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from VancouverDate Reviewed: March 21, 2001
Strengths: Light
Stay Trued
Weaknesses: Rattling pin deal sucks, but fixed with super glueBottom Line: Good rims that have held up well so far. The rattling pin deal is kind of a pain until you take the time to fix it. I don't know, two years on these babies and they are as true as the day I bought the wheel. What else to say? They work for their intended use: cross country racing. If you do big jumps, you will bend them. Also, lets face it folks, rims take a lot of abuse and fail from time to time. End of story. Half of the battle is building a good wheel. If you get two years out of a rim you are doing well.
Favorite Trail: Ape Canyon
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Purchased At: Marketplace
Similar Products Used: Mostly Mavic, but Sun also
Bike Setup: Full-suspension cross county bike
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Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from WyomingDate Reviewed: February 13, 2001
Strengths: Have only needed truing once a season since I bought them in 1996. Totally durable under normal XC riding. Colorado Cyclist builds the best wheels, hands down!!Weaknesses: Rattling pin syndrome, but nothing a little epoxy didn't silence. Tough to get brake pad residue off ceramic rim coating. Decals coming off.Bottom Line: Seems wheel build quality greatly affects rim performance and longevity. If built correctly, this rim is tough as nails!! Keeps its true, brakes great under all conditions and they look cool, too. Five steamin' piles for Mavic!!
Favorite Trail: Any without Grizzly Bears
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At: Colorado Cyclist
Similar Products Used: Old Trek Matrix (OEM)
Bike Setup: Wheels handmade by Colorado Cyclist. LX hubs laced with DT 14/15 spokes. Now on a 2000 Trek 9.9 Pro, previously used on a 1994 Trek 930.
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Donald Jones
a Cross Country Rider
from Shirley,MADate Reviewed: January 31, 2001
Strengths: lightweightWeaknesses: Cannot connect the manufacturer except through dealers, not even email.Bottom Line: I commute 24 miles a day. I use my single speed during the winter. The rim split on me, on the brake surface, after about 1200 miles. No excuse for this. True I pick up a lot of salt, sand and ice but I keep the bike pretty clean. This rim gains its lightweight by shaving the walls too thin; making the rim sidewall unreliable and prone to failure for anyone but a recreational summer rider. Don't use this rim on your winter bike.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Similar Products Used: many
Bike Setup: Single speed, Paul WORM hub
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Van Hemsley
a Weekend Warrior
from New YorkDate Reviewed: January 9, 2001
Strengths: Holds up for anything. It stayed true even after a road 2 miles on a flat tire!Weaknesses: there is no weaknessBottom Line: its strong
Favorite Trail: Bethpage
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At: a bike shop
Similar Products Used: i dont care
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Ben Estdale
a Weekend Warrior
from Dover, Kent, England.Date Reviewed: August 28, 2000
Strengths: Quality, strength and looks.Weaknesses: My rear rim buckle badly for no reason, when stripped the inner casing had cracked all the way around the rim!!! Mavic replaced the rim with a 521 at no extra cost.Bottom Line: My front rim is still going strong even after repeated exess abuse with little or no truing and definatley no craking (must have been a one off!!!).
Favorite Trail: penshurst
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At: Activ, Folkestone, Kent.
Similar Products Used: Rolf, Crossmax
Bike Setup: GT STS1000ds XTR/XT groupset
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mike sipley
a Cross Country Rider
from toronto, ontario, canadaDate Reviewed: May 2, 2000
Strengths: just that, STRENGTH!! i've been through a number of front rims but this one holds up. one year of hard, no suspension riding and still true (sweet wheel builder though)Weaknesses: none as yetBottom Line: buy, buy, buy. very happy with it holding up to much pounding. cash well spent.
i'm a solid 215lbs with no suspension and it loves me.
Favorite Trail: raven shoot
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Similar Products Used: power beam
Bike Setup: cannondale m900
rigid (and i like that way)
LX/XT components
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