Strengths: Haven't failed. Have had these for about 4 years and are still running true.
Weaknesses: Have noticed that the black paint around the eyelets is starting to lift off the surface in some areas which is probably corrosion from riding in coastal areas where seawater has got on them.
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I've had these on Hope ProII hubs for about 4-5 years, used on three different bikes. Have had no issues with them so far. They have a couple of minor dings from hitting a curb or rock, but have stayed true. I think keeping good spoke tension on the wheels makes the difference to the lifespan of most rims. I would say these are more suited to XC/trail use, but I've ridden lots of rough trails and smallish jumps and they have stood up to the the punishment -though I have noticed the limits of their strength on some landings. Definately a decent, light rim.
Strengths: Light, holds tubeless well (after rim strip install)
Weaknesses: None
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I switched to this rim with DT 240 Hubs and Nevegal tires from my cheapo stock Giant wheelset. This is obviously a HUGE improvement so may be hard for me to notice any weaknesses, but I can say that it has improved my climbing and overall handling tremendously. These rims are super light and seem to still take a beating pretty well. I ride cross-country/XC and am around 155 lbs. A buddy of mine is around 220lbs and uses these with not problems as well. Highly recommend these rims for anyone wanting to follow the weight weenie path or intend to race. Probably wouldn't suggest these for downhill or freeride though, especially if you're a heavier rider.
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Submitted by
raf
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2012
Strengths: overall manifacturing
Weaknesses: found crack in prossimity of rim welding after only 300 km... front wheel....only xc
Bottom Line:
more straight needed
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Submitted by
Inuitbiker
a Weekend Warrior
from EARTH, EARTH
Date Reviewed: January 25, 2012
Strengths: Great rim for the front, light, easy to go ghetto tubeless
Weaknesses: Weak rim for the rear wheel, easily dented by rocks, soft material
Bottom Line:
Great light front wheel for most of your mtb needs, except for FR/DH. Really easy to go tubeless with Maxxis tires. However the weakness was that the rims dented very easily. Also, it is a weak rim for a rear wheel if you don't ride like a midwestern colorado fireroad racer. Even with proper tension, I had to true each time after the bike park or hitting a rocky/jump trail.
Strengths: Fairly light. Stayed true when landed on rock edges or high roots.
Weaknesses: A label has peeled off slightly. But then it's been through some abuse.
Bottom Line:
Light enough for me. I normally do XC riding, but now and again slam the wheels into rocks, roots and ruts. I'm riding a hardtail and they have remained true and tense. I could probably do with checking the spoke tension with some precision after 2 year, but nothing seems loose at the mo. Considering the amount of neglect I've shown, they seem good to me. I probably wouldn't do the Red-Bull Rampage on them.
Bike Setup: Kona Kula Primo 2008 (Hard-tail). XT hubs, DT Competition spokes, locky nipples. Reba Team Forks. QR skewers. Currently Continental XC type tyres.
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mazta
a Weekend Warrior
from Iloilo, Philippines
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kirjo
a Weekend Warrior
from Brisbane
Date Reviewed: March 27, 2010
Strengths: Light! These things produced a very light build with XTR M970 disc hubs and Revolution spokes. Worked extremely well up until this weekend.
Weaknesses: Weak. Clipped the edge of a small anthill and the front wheel folded and jammed into my forks, sending me sailing through the air and into a tree.
Bottom Line:
I really did like this wheelset. Built with XTR M970 disc hubs, DT swiss revolution spokes and pro-lock nipples by chain reaction cycles. I got them for my cannondale scalpel. I had them checked after a few hard rides, spoke tension was still perfect and wheels were true. The front wheel failed catastrophically this weekend, but I guess it's my fault for using a race-built wheelset for hard all-mountain riding (which is mostly my style). I am shocked however at how easily the rim gave way. At least it will look good hanging in my garage, and is something to laugh about over a few beers. The bottom line is use the rim for it's intended purpose and it should hold up, provided that you don't hit anything awkward at speed.
Weaknesses: Seems like the material is a little soft, bends easy, but bends back too.
Bottom Line:
They are soft, but they only weigh 400 grams. They also reform well, so with some metal smithing you will get normal life. Properly laced I think they are the right compromise for aggressive XC, but not FR or DH.
Submitted by
ubrdomechanic
a Racer
from Kirkland, WA
Date Reviewed: January 15, 2010
Strengths: Weight, Construction, True
Weaknesses: Eyelets, Bead
Bottom Line:
I'll agree that the rims are a little soft; but with a caveat. The rim only gets dinged when there is not enough air in the tire. Running tubeless systems on tires that are not actually intended for tubeless, i.e. soft sidewall tires, will cause you to bottom out more. I had one ding from using a set of Stan's racing tires on the bike but no issues with a Panaracer. DT is still the best rim maker for my money and I would back their product in any contest with Mavic.
Buy this rim if you are anything from a XC to FR rider wanting a lighter wheel. Get a shop to lace it well and use high tension in the build because that will help with durability! I won't say that you can't use it for Downhill racing because...well...I have...sort of. After 1 race I can say this is a great 4x rim with 2.5" Maxxis Minions! But I weigh 158 and have awesome handling skills...like a jedi. All kidding aside this is a great rim for race situations and if you use the right tire it will work great tubeless!
I agree with the review below that i9 sucks to deal with but thats another story.
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Adventure
a Weekend Warrior
from Christchurch, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2009
Strengths: Put together with Industry 9 hubs and spokes they are reasonably light weight and advertised as a strong xc/ trail rim.
Weaknesses: Soft rims. Add the DT Swiss tubeless kit & the numbers dont stack up.
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I weigh 174 lbs (79 kg's)plus riding gear and have baggy UST tyres with DT rim strips & fluid. Riding a trail I enjoy twice a year last weekend and returned with three big dings in the rims. Heading into summer here in Kiwi land & the trail was a little wet but didnt expect the rims to be made of butter. I should have bought the 2010 Mavic ST's. I really hate writing a negetive review but the bottom line is I dont recommend either the service from Industry 9 or the 4.2d rims.
Similar Products Used: Mavic Crossmax SL's for 4 years
Bike Setup: Turner 5 Spot DW link
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Submitted by
ErikEngerd
a Weekend Warrior
from Netherlands
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2009
Strengths: Light, in combination with DT Swiss 240s and DT swiss competition spokes good wheels, but... read about weanesses.
Weaknesses: After one year of riding I did a routine inspection of the rear wheel and found several dents in the wheel. I am about 90 kgs and I am a relatively careful (not that aggressive) rider. I usually have both wheels on the ground and no drops more than 1 foot describes my riding.
It is really disappointing to find out that I have to replace the rim after just one year of riding. These rims are definitely weaker than the el-cheapo rims I got on my first mountainbike.
It is difficult to compare experiences with other riders, but in my case the problem occured after 4000kms of riding. Perhaps, production quality of the rims is not constant so that some people have good rims some bad ones.
Similar Products Used: Mavic EX 721 (good), Rigida X-star 19 (weak)
Bike Setup: XT brakes, shifters, derailleurs.
Fox F32 100RLC, Fox float rp23, DT Swiss hubs, spokes, and rims. (Rims will become mavic xc717 disc).
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Submitted by
dosman45
a Cross Country Rider
from Tucson, AZ USA
Date Reviewed: September 4, 2009
Strengths: Good wheels, I have about 100 miles on them so far and they are holding very true. Running Hope Pro Disc 2's with Hope skewers, and the Stan's no tube kit! Maxxis Larsen TT's 2.0's.
Weaknesses: Well I have not found any yet, but if they end up not staying true I will replace them with Stan's Arch.
Bottom Line:
Very good for the money, I got them on sale and used their discount coupon so it really could not be beat for the price. I hope they hold up, I am 6' tall 200 lbs. and can be very hard on wheels! I put about 80 miles a week on my bike so I will know pretty quickly if they hold up or not.
Similar Products Used: DT Suiss 430, Mavic 717 (they suck), Sun Rhino Lite's
Bike Setup: Gary Fisher Ziggurat 19", full XT and XTR set up, Reba Race 100mm, Avid Juicy Carbon 160's, Thompson stem & seatpost, Monkeylite carbon bars, Chris King headset, ODI grips. (23.5lbs total)
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Submitted by
brentos
a Cross Country Rider
from Ogden, UT
Date Reviewed: July 30, 2009
Strengths: Low weight, wide for an XC rim.
Weaknesses: Soft aluminum.
Bottom Line:
Combined with the I9 build, this rim made for a nice, light, stiff wheel. Tires set up pretty wide on this rim which is a bonus. The DT tubeless kit (purchased seperately) worked well, but really no better than 1 layer of strapping tape and 2 layers of electrical tape...which was much cheaper.
The only knock I have on this rim is that it is SOFT. On one hand they dinged easily if a rock managed to compress the tire far enough to strike the rim. On the other hand they were soft enough to not cause a pinch flat through the tubless tire (nice in a race situation). The dings bend out easily enough with a pliers. I'm a 160 lb XC racer, none of the dings occured on anything resembling a jump...but most did occur plowing through rock gardens at speed.
Submitted by
Lowball
a Weekend Warrior
from Roseville, CA ,USA
Date Reviewed: June 3, 2009
Strengths: Light and you can still run 2.1 tires no problem.
Weaknesses: Strength with bigger riders.
Bottom Line:
The rims are light for sure. I'm running a 32h in the back with 240 hub and SRAM with a custom build...have about 100 miles and no issues. Front rim 'was' a 28h with 240 and is now destroyed after about 100 miles (after a wreck). Since I'm over the 90kg weight limit by about 5kg's w/gear I was hoping the rim would hold, but one pretty good wreck and the rim is toast. So in general if you're a light weight guy and don't ride too hard or on any super tech or rocky trails you should be just fine...next time I just have to remember not to ride the Superlight like the Nomad :)
Bike Setup: SC Superlight XC machine: DTSwiss Wheels, FOX, Avid, SRAM, Kenda, etc.
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Submitted by
mudphalt
a Weekend Warrior
from new jersey
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2009
Strengths: everything.. these rims built around the DT 240 hubs with DT spokes. provide solid response and exceptional handling , they do what you want when you want, I could not be happier.... They are super light, super responsive and provide a level of reliability and security second to none..YOu WILL NOT BE DISAPOINTED with these rims ...
Weaknesses: NONE !!!!
Bottom Line:
There are no other wheels, rims or hubs on earth , DT is IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!