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Submitted by
Alain Trudeau
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada, Quebec, Montreal
Date Reviewed: March 18, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | Andre Cycle | | Strengths: | a great quality product | | Weaknesses: | dosent shift well in winter when the cogs are full of ice lol | | Similar Products Used: | shimano, suntour | | Bike Setup: | nukeproof hub with Sachs freewheel 7 speed | | Bottom Line: | GREAT! it dosent shift as well as shimano but i'v been running it for 7 years and it still runs great!!!
i do take it apart every year to put some new greace in and remove the dirt.
i hate shimano :P
suntour was the best but they went out... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Cross Country Rider
from Elkhart, IN
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Still looking... | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | Bicycle One | | Strengths: | No problems in 2 years. | | Weaknesses: | Not apparent yet | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano XT and below, Nukeproof, others | | Bike Setup: | Which one?
Dakar with Toys
or Commuter with Toys? | | Bottom Line: | Follow up review.
Price includes wheel parts and build.
No problems with the hub still. Had to tighten bearings once. Otherwise still engages consistently and smoothly. Can't ask for more.
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Submitted by
quadpod
a
from Boulder, CO
Date Reviewed: November 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | hairball, Blacksburg VA | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Cheap | | Weaknesses: | terrible quality. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano stx,lx,xt,xtr even dx. WTB disc hubs. | | Bike Setup: | GT XCR 1500. | | Bottom Line: | This hub locked up a few months after I got it. Went to my local shop where it was built, Sachs (was right after sachs merged with SRAM) wouldn't replace it for free, they just gave me one at cost, then I had to pay for a 2nd wheelbuild. 6-8 months later, starts to lock up again!
My advice: Stay away from Sachs/Sram products! I've had 2 SRAM deraillures snap in a period of a month this year. I now look to other non-shimano companies for my parts.
WTB disc hubs have held up well for me, that may be a good alternative. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Gilbert, AZ
Date Reviewed: October 25, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Secret mine trail off of TRW trail | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Smooth bearings
Well sealed
Easy to build
Strong flange for radial spoking
Stout axle when using suspension forks
Cool shape not like the typical and boring S'mano | | Weaknesses: |
'Quarz' what the hell kind of name is that? Haven't tried the Rear hub of the same name, I usually give in to the Shimano monopoly and yes I still use AT&T for long distance | | Similar Products Used: |
All Shimano hubs, Bullseye, Specialized Stout. | | Bike Setup: |
Giant Sedona, with Manitou SX | | Bottom Line: | If you can find these hubs available buy them, they roll like butter and probably cannot beat the value for an overall build. If you want disco colors or are running disco brakes look elsewhere Jackson | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Cross-Country Rider
from Indiana
Date Reviewed: August 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Still Looking | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Smooth
Durable
Cheap
Light | | Weaknesses: |
None found just yet. | | Similar Products Used: |
XT, LX | | Bike Setup: |
Specialized Ground Control with lots of swaps. | | Bottom Line: | Replaced a Mavic 217 / 14-15g / LX (silent clutch) Wheel with a Bontrager Mustang / 14-15g / Quartz. The old wheel didn't stay in true, and after having to true it about 2 X a week for about 2 months I replaced it with the Quartz.The quartz wheel has worked flawlessly since then. It is not come loose, it has engaged consistently. The finish is the same as the day I bought it. Been the perfect part. Built and forgotten, I haven't needed to have anything done to it since it was installed.
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Submitted by
PRC
a Cross-Country Rider
from Cascais Portugal
Date Reviewed: May 18, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Cheap, good looks (when new) | | Weaknesses: |
Has developed some play,
The finish has corroded somewhat | | Similar Products Used: |
LX , XT | | Bike Setup: |
Quarz hubs, 217 sunset, dt competition
double butted (15/14G) spokes. | | Bottom Line: | I rate these somewhere between the LX hubs which came stock on the GT and the XTs on my other bike. The hubs have about 2000km on them, I've had to correct the lateral play twice. The finish has corroded, but its probably due to the salty air here. I'll give them 3 flaming dogs - 1 dog for the finish | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Francesco Picasso
a weekend warrior
from Lisbon, Portugal
Date Reviewed: March 3, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought a Sachs Plasma some months ago, hoping to keep it for years.
~Wrong! It started to unscrew, and the freewhell as been replaced under waranty.
Now, after an other 6 months it stopped working. The mecanic said it sudc needed to disamble it to clean it. That is not an excuse. This hubs sucks!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
RDB
a cross-country rider
from Weirton, WV 26062
Date Reviewed: February 27, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I thought the weight was in the ballpark with other higher priced hub sets. But I guess I found out why they were so inexpensive......broke 2 rear hubs( the first one being replaced under warranty) If I remember, there were only 3 pawls in the freehub...probably making it easy to foul) I went to a Hugi rear and have had NO problems. And the Hugi is rebildable!
One pepper....I hate having to have hubs relaced!!!!The front seemed ok, but I deep sixxed it any way........ | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Barry
a cross-country rider
from Stafford, Virginia
Date Reviewed: January 15, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Front hub is fine, rear failed after several months.Pawls wouldn't engage properly, slipped before gripping.Actually saw one at the LBS that exploded.The first rear I received I sent back due to the fact that it grinded when it rotated.I will NEVER buy another Sachs rear hub... We'll see about the front. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Damiano Visocnik
a cross-country rider
from SLC,UT USA
Date Reviewed: January 4, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought my Quarz rear hub through REI and laced it to a Bontrager Mustang Asym myself. After only two months of moderate riding (no mud) the hub seized on a long uphill ride. I had broken previously several LX and XT freehub bodies, all due to palses faliure; the Quartz did not prove to be any different to the Shimano. I have also shredded the spline for the freehub body on a LX Shimano rear hub. Incidentally I am 220 lb and I like to ride hard and steep.
The hub has been replaced under warranty and I had no chance to ride it since.
I also built a second wheel with a rear Chris King, which I have not tested yet.
I can not rate the Quartz highly. Two chillies only! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Herb Snogren
a
from Denver, CO
Date Reviewed: November 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I purchased a set of these hubs during an Alaska to Tierra del Fuego bike tour. I put them on in Guatamala after 3000 - 4000 miles the press fit freewheel had separated from the hub. The design sucks! Sachs replaced my rear hub with a new design featuring a screw on freewheel. The outer shell of the cassette body cracked within 2000 miles and is now being replaced under warranty again. I am not impressed with their quality. Zero chiles for the rear hub. The front hubs are great. I rode from Guatamala to Tierra del Fuego (10,000 miles) on one set of bearings with zero maint. and zero problems. The cartrige bearings on the front and rear hubs are interchangeable, easy to replace and last a long time with no maint. A full set of chiles for the front hubs. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Krzysztof Zielinski
a cross-country rider
from Poland
Date Reviewed: November 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've bought them because people in my LBS recomended it. I wanted Deore XT, but the guy said that they're better and cheaper. He was right - ther roll very smooth on cartridge bearings and are lighter than XTR's. I built wheels with these hubs, DT Competition butted spokes and Mavic X 517 CD rims and I'm really satisfied - I've great wheels with great hubs. As far as I know they'll be selled under SRAM brand in 1999 as Sachs has been bought by SRAM. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dr fez
a cross-country rider
from
Date Reviewed: September 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought a Sachs Quartz and Mavic 217 wheelset from Nashbar. The hub has held up fine but the whole wheelset seems to be lopsided in weight. On a truing stand, it will cause the stand to hop when the wheel is spun fast. You can also see the same result when the tire is on the rim and the bike is upside down and the wheel is spun fast. I'm thinking of sending it back to Nashbar. Has anyone else had this problem? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from Washington
Date Reviewed: September 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These hubs are light, inexpensive, spin smoothly on larger sealed bearings. However, the rear hub has only two sealed bearings, freehub has two sets of small loose bearings and is pressed in -- I torqued these suckers off and torque twisted the main axle guide shaft -- I have resized the guide shaft reassembled the entire cheap ass rear, went for a ride and torqued it off again. I'd stay away from the rear if it is the press fit unit. But, they are light and they are smooth. The front has worked flawlessly, and may be overbuilt with the bearing size. Five chiles for the front - one chile for the rear. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike from Va.
a cross-country rider
from Fredericksburg, Va. USA
Date Reviewed: September 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had a Sachs Quarts hubset built up for about 8 months now and my rear hub is starting to slip. The internal mechanism is allowing slippage during torquing and I am freewheeling a lot when I'm spinning. The front is great and runs smooth, but the rear has let me down. I'm sending it back to Nashbar. BTW my best friend has a set as well, and his rear hub started the same thing about two weeks after mine did. I'll never buy another. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Francisco Caetano
a cross-country rider
from Portugal
Date Reviewed: August 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Sachs Neos - Cartridge
I've finaly replaced my alivio hubs with the new Neos Cartridge.
Comparison: no comparison!!!
I'm warning you people. Don't try these hubs if you don't mean to by them!
For the price they are the best on the world. They are almoust identical to the Quartz ones (the diference is in the final seal in plastic os Neos and in alu. on Quartz).
They feel like they will never stop from spining and they have a real Pro-Look.
They are also very light and look and feel extremely strong and well designed.
In conclusian: A must have. (realy, go look at the price) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Carter
a weekend warrior
from Ireland
Date Reviewed: July 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Reason for buying:Cheapest cartridge hubs i could get.
To put things in perspective I like to climb alot and put a fair amount of torque into a rear hub thought I'm just in it fot the laugh.
I got a pair of 36 hole sachs quarts hubs built up in 217's about 1 year ago.after 6 months the rear hub started to ping so i brought it back to the lbs. He said they were having problems with the batch as he'd sold about a dozen pairs.the freewheel is just pressed in rather than screw in like shimano.Now after a year the pings a back worse than ever.I went in to the lbs again. Its turns out that mine are the only pair still running and that sachs are replacing all with a new version which has got the screw in freewheel. I'll probably get a hugi rear instead.btw.the front in still running like new. and i would get another front hub again
all bearings are atill smooth | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a cross-country rider
from Ohio
Date Reviewed: June 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Bought one and had it 3X laced with a Bontrager Mustang Aysm, and 14/15g.Now let the praises begin. This hub is outstanding. The wheel weighs less than the one it replaced (LX hub vs Sach Quartz), and the performance difference is astounding.The wheel spins so smoothly, has cartridge bearing instead of the loose balls. Sachs finanlly went and set up the hub in Shimano spacing (Didn't need a plastic spacer.) Cost as much as the LX did for me.One of the real good parts, rides like it isn't there. Sachs keeps giving me reasons to stop buying shimano. (First the chains, now the hubs, next the rear mech?) Near perfect. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a racer
from Anchorage, AK
Date Reviewed: April 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Why more people do not love these hubs astonishes me. Mostly, I am shocked that people will shell out twice as much for hubs that weigh more, are less servicable, and not nearly as icy smooth. These are tremendous hubs: lighter than XTR by 70 g.'s and the bearings are great!! You will pay three times as much for Ringle', or King for such smooth, sealed cartridge bearings.
I guess because it does not come in anodized green or purple, it ain't as cool. I truly believe that this is the best value, best performance, biggest bang for the buck in all of mountain biking.
The only problem (and it is so small as to not detract from the overall greatness of these hubs) is that you need to put a 1.5 mm spacer between the cogset and the wheel. Do that, and you are good to go.Rob. A loyal Sachs user. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Morten Boldsen
a cross-country rider
from Denmark
Date Reviewed: April 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Sachs Quartz Power hubs works great. I've been riding them only for 3 months, but until now i'm really surprised. Before these i've got my Hope Titanium hubs stolen, and bought the cheaper Sachs. But i'm surprised to say, that these run smoother, and at an attractive price. At that price, nothing beats them | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Srugis
a cross-country rider
from Clarkston, MI
Date Reviewed: February 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These hubs are light. I bought a Sachs/Sun CR17a wheelset for 130 dollars from bike
Nashbar. They ar esmooth and durable. Also, Nashbar built a really good wheel for 3
bucks. The rotational weight makes my bike seem so much lighter. I would recomend these
hubs to anyone. They are XTR weight with XT price.
They are about 150 grams lighter than XT.
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