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Tranz-X
Suspension seatpost
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Submitted by
Hans
a Cross Country Rider
from Yokohama, Japan
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | Tokyu Hands Yokohama | | Strengths: | Inexpensive | | Weaknesses: | Cheap design, weak guides, falls apart | | Similar Products Used: | Not yet. | | Bike Setup: | Giant Touring Cycle | | Bottom Line: | If you buy cheap, you buy twice...which is true here again. The guide is a simple groove with plastic inlays, which wear of in half a year at most. After a very short time the movable piston part starts binding. Greasing does not help for long.
My post actually fell apart, because the socket screw inside came off. I dismantled it and greased it, also put a binder on the screw. Downside was that it had from now on play of about half an inch to each side at the tip of the saddle horn. Judging from the vertical play now, it will fall apart again in about a month.
I will now purchase a German Design "Airwings Evolution", which is more expensive, but also first class design with 6 linear ball bearings and 150 steel balls instead of two cheap plastic parts.
Think twice, it is an investment in your spine and your discs!!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luka Koprivica
a Cross Country Rider
from Beograd, Serbia, Europe
Date Reviewed: April 28, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Sport+ | | Strengths: | Stifness, looks, price, adjustability | | Weaknesses: | Loose scrues | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Capriolo Varanus/alloy, Shimano tourney, double reinforced rims, Lookin 3density moderate seat (PERFECT FOR NOT SORE A$$), logan brakes(junk), quando rims(junk) | | Bottom Line: | >>Excuse my bad english, it's not my mother tongue!<<
It's cheaper to get this then the rear suspension, but leaves you more controle over bike, when you're up on your feet it's all under control!!! Should satisfy all but pro's, great for everyday practice...
And, most important: TURN ADJUSTING SCRUES FORVARD, that way you leave the plastic support inlet inside with no pressure, and thus much longer life to whole post!!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron
a Weekend Warrior
from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: September 14, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | unamed local single track | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Award Cycle | | Strengths: | Worked well at first, for someone who doesn't want too much seat compression travel or too much bouncing. | | Weaknesses: | Outrigger plastic guide failed after 400Km and post binds during motion. Bad design, the seat attachment is not directly above the compression column like RockShox post. Doomed to fail for heaver riders. No way to take it apart and serice it. It's a throw-away. | | Bottom Line: | This is a follow up to the previous JD-415 review. I was very pleased with this seatpost to start, as you can see in the previous review, but I am now disgusted.
The design has a fatal flaw. The seat clamp is not centered over the post. It is behind the post. The outrigger post is in front. The mechanical force associated with compression causes torque on the main post and causes the outrigger post to crush and smear the plastic guide on the forward edge. This essentially destroys the plastic guide. The thing is designed to self detruct.
This inevitably must result in the outrigger sticking and binding. The whole seatpost then binds under compression and does not work.
There is no way to dissasemble the seatpost to service it. The thing is a throw away, at less than two months and 400Km.
It's a piece of junk. Sorry for misleading people with the previous review. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron
a Weekend Warrior
from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 26, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | un-named local single track | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Award Cycle | | Strengths: | simple design, works well, allows me to stay in the seat most of the time, stiff suspension, high preload, and short travel make it good for hardtail MTBs. | | Weaknesses: | no adjustments, but it doesn't seem to need any. | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Giant Rincons, 11-34 Mega-range cassette, Tranz-X JD-415 suspension seatpost, RST Capa TL with hard spring retrofit, Kenda OEM road/off-road cross-over tires | | Bottom Line: | I bought a suspension seatpost for a few reasons. One was comfort. Two, I can ride faster on single track. Three, I can stay in the saddle and conserve energy. Four, the forces that can damage a bike frame and dent rims, are largely due to the weight of the rider either crashing down from above or refusing to move quickly up over trail hits. The suspension seatpost transfers those forces more gradually. Think of a Karate chop breaking bricks. Your bike frame is the bricks. Your body weight is the Karate chop. Sudden hard force is more likely to break the frame than the same force absorbed more slowly by a spring, whether you are crashing down, or the bike is forced up.
I bought identical Rincons for my wife and myself. My wife loves the seat/seatpost combination. I find it quite good myself. On the local single track, I can stay in the seat for all but the most severe hits and drops. I can even remain seated crossing over small logs and curbs.
The model we have is the JD-415. Others here appear to be reviewing different models. The design of this model is very simple with an "outrigger" shaft that keeps the seat from rotating on the seatpost. There is 30mm of travel and no adjustments. Other Tranz-X models have 40mm of travel with preload and rebound adjustments.
The suspension is quite stiff. I weigh 190lbs, ride some rough single track, and even though there is just over an inch of travel, I have never felt the seat suspension bottom out. I am sure it must be bottoming out, but there must be a very good bumper at the bottom, or the Rincon seat is absorbing the shock. There is no noticeable hit at the bottom of travel.
The short travel is actually good, since it keeps the relative position of the seat and pedals more consistent.
I would recommend this seatpost to anyone who is doubtful about using a suspension seatpost. Its stiffness and short travel allow it to do its job, without feeling mushy or bouncy. Even without rebound dampening, it only can rebound about an inch, so you don't really notice it. I have put about 300Km on this seatpost, and cannot remember ever feeling it oscillating up and down after a hit. I would guess that the designed-in preload, stiffness, and short travel account for this. I would think that this particular seatpost is better suited to hardtail mountain bikes than to comfort bikes.
The seatpost helps on DH, but I would not consider it a replacement for full suspension. I think it performs best XC on single track and logging roads.
I am pleased with this product to date and would recommend it. I do not know how well it will wear, but new, it works very well.
Cheers, Ron
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Submitted by
David Evans
a Weekend Warrior
from Wenatchee, Washington, USA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Squilchuck DH | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | Second Wind Bike Shop | | Strengths: | It works, it's cheap, and it is easy to maintain. | | Weaknesses: | Not much travel. It is very sticky! You cant loosen it enough if you only weigh 140lbs. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Bunch | | Bottom Line: | Looks like there is only one complaint on these reviews, shoot, If I could do it again, I guess I would get it instead of spending $100's more for 10 more mm of travel. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bobby
a Weekend Warrior
from Tallahassee
Date Reviewed: December 1, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$24.00 | | Purchased At: | The Great Bike Shop | | Strengths: | Quality for the price. | | Weaknesses: | Rebound adjustment | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose Rockadile, stock except for pedals, seat & tires. | | Bottom Line: | I found that the only problem I had was with the "rebound adjustment". If I made it too tight, it wouldn't rebound and rise back up again. In order for it rebound back, this meant that the screws were loose, and had a tendency to back out. I added a couple of spacers/washers under the cap, and was able to fully tighten the screws without clamping down and restricting the up/down motion of the tube. Then I just adjusted the bottom screw, which basically just compresses the internal spring, until I had the amount of "bounce" I was comfortable with. This made all the difference and for the price, it can't be beat! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert
a Weekend Warrior
from Savannah Ga USA
Date Reviewed: September 22, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Augusta Canal, Wine Creek | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | outspoken - Augusta Ga | | Strengths: | Long lasting, takes the bumps out of the trail, easy to clean and adjust | | Weaknesses: | side play | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Giant rainer se, upgraded rims and tires, upgraded rear derailer | | Bottom Line: | I take it apart and clean and lube it every 2 to 3 months and it still works great after 2 yrs. With 2 inches of travel it absorbs all but the worst bumps or roots. Have to tighten up the adjustment at the top just a little and tighten it till it will not rebound then back off the set screws about 1/16 of a turn on each side so it will rebound properly. I think it is well worth the money | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
josh beager
a Cross Country Rider
from Eau Claire
Date Reviewed: September 13, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | leves mounds | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$140.00 | | Purchased At: | bike docter | | Strengths: | the strengths of this product have no end. this is the best seat post i have ever used, i used it on a 24 hour race and let me tell you, i was the only one on my team who could sit after that. | | Weaknesses: | the only thing that i can see is that the post is too heavy | | Similar Products Used: | rock shox ( didn't eaven compare) | | Bike Setup: | marin bear vally, outfitted in all xtr. | | Bottom Line: | this is where its at. the product is up to date. the product is comfortable, and strong. i recomend it to every one i talk to. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
don
a Weekend Warrior
from beavercreek, ohio
Date Reviewed: January 3, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | lake hope, ohio | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$29.00 | | Purchased At: | chain reaction | | Strengths: | low cost | | Weaknesses: | the whole thing, well, for the money, i guess it isn't that bad. | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | gt aggressor, rock shok judy xc, few upgrades here and there | | Bottom Line: | never ridden any other suspension seatpost, so i have nothing to compare to, except a rigid post. it seems to help w/the bumps some, so my ass isn't killing me at the end of a ride, but that is it. the clamp that keeps it from getting wobbly from side to side, also keeps it from moving up and down, which eliminates the suspension aspect of the post. plus the clamp is made out of aluminum, and wears out fast. pretty soon, no matter how tight you tighten it, the seat still moves from side to side. if that doesn't bother you, than you probably won't mind the post. with both bolts completely tightened, the tip of my seat would wiggle about half an inch. i filed the clamp down a little, and now it doesn't wiggle much. i'll probably upgrade soon. mechanically, it's pretty simple, and besides the aluminum clamp, seems fairly sturdy. but it definitely is cheap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Weekend Warrior
from Longmont, CO
Date Reviewed: October 30, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Strengths: | Cheap $$ | | Weaknesses: | Cheap quality | | Similar Products Used: | still better than no suspension, barely. | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Rockhopper hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Paid less than $40 for it, and it shows. From week 1 it developed some sideplay which never went away. If you try to tighten the clamp to where there's no play, you also take out all the rebound, so it gets compressed and doesn't return unless you raise yourself off the seat. The collars used to fit it to my seat tube are cheap, could never get it to clamp without really cranking on the quick release.
Learned my lesson this time: Good stuff is rarely cheap, and cheap stuff is never good. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a Weekend Warrior
from Augusta, Ga
Date Reviewed: October 21, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Canal, Wine Creek, Lick Fork Lake | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | Outspoken | | Strengths: | Gives the butt a good rest and takes the shock well. | | Weaknesses: | You have to clean it out and lube it on a regular basis. | | Similar Products Used: | no clue | | Bike Setup: | Giant Rainer SE, upgraded rims and tires. | | Bottom Line: | This is a really pretty good product for the money. I agree with the guy who said take it apart and clean and lube it on a regular basis, about every 2 months. For the screw back out problem, you can use a little tooth paste or some locktite. I have not had a problem but as soon as I feel side play I adjust the collar on the neck of it. Usually less than a 1/4 turn per side gets it. All in all this is a really good product and after a year works fine. I ride nothing but trails, and have had some really serious crashes that have cost me two rims, a seat that got bent but this item survived and a few broken ribs, black and blue spots, nicks, cuts, and a chipped shin bone. Not bad for a 43 yr old guy. lol I luv mountain biking trails. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Vic
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, TX
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | BikeShop...that's the name yup | | Strengths: | cheap, easily adjustable | | Weaknesses: | where do i begin.... | | Similar Products Used: | bamboo stick | | Bike Setup: | caloi hardtail | | Bottom Line: | not worth the money is the bottom line dammit. i didn't get a year's worth out of this piece of junk. i weigh 150, my level is intermediate--what does that tell you. side to side play came in a month ago and today i just broke it, and not at a good time too! don't buy this; companies who sell crap like this to kids who work damn hard for their money need to die. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Mountain View
Date Reviewed: June 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Braile, WIlder, Skeggs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$30.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Price. | | Weaknesses: | Cheap copnstruction. | | Bike Setup: | GF Kaitai | | Bottom Line: | Used this post for as few months. Was happy with it a first until the preload adjustment kept coming loose. Then finally the seat clamp started coming loose and I retired it. Great value if you are a commuter, but not made for off road activities. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
darko darko
a Weekend Warrior
from slovenia
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | bauer | | Strengths: | not expensive, well made, works great once dailed in | | Weaknesses: | some, but not to mention | | Similar Products Used: | RS | | Bike Setup: | GT avalanche le | | Bottom Line: | this seatpost works great once dailed in, but before it's no good. here is what you should do with this seatpost:
1. once you buy it, you should take it to pieces and grease it, than it would work much better, but it doesn't have any damping,
2. if you want damping you have to change the original spring with some elestomers, after this the seatpost flys.
for about 30$ you get seatpost that works like RS or even better, but is much better made - more tough and it weights only 50g more than RS (with elastomers).
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Submitted by
Dan Roberts
a Cross Country Rider
from South Africa
Date Reviewed: March 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Queens Peak | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$38.00 | | Purchased At: | Xc Cycles | | Strengths: | -Price
-Aesthetics
-Strength
-Size & Length | | Weaknesses: | -Virtually no spring back
-inefective with heavier riders
-Adjustment screw loosens itself | | Similar Products Used: | X-Shox seat post damper | | Bike Setup: | 32" Alpine ATB, Shimano rapidfire sisX-7, Tektro power modulated disc brakes, shimano Xc wheels, Mitchelins wild gripper tires, Tranz-x Ahead handelbar system,the rest of the bike is Giant parts & accesories. | | Bottom Line: | With virtually no spring back after compression, and a forever loosening adjustment scew the only thing going for it is its Aesthetics, and superior strength in comparison to standard seat posts.
I would say it is good for commuters who stick to roads, but due to the lack of spring-back, I would not advise it for off-road cyclists. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
KinG KiKApu
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary alberta canada
Date Reviewed: January 18, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Strengths: | +Price
+strength
+active
+looks good
+fits most bikes
+ajustability | | Weaknesses: | -Price
-weight
-0.5' to 0.75' travel
-stiff in winter | | Similar Products Used: | k2 flexpost | | Bike Setup: | 99' Ironhorse Flagstaff: 00' Judy XC, Shimano deore stuff,titec hellbent bar, sun rims, maxxis tires | | Bottom Line: | Ok post, especially for the money. Great way to ease up the A$$ with little bucks. DO USE FOR DOWNHILL. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Walter Buis
a Weekend Warrior
from Helmond, Netherlands
Date Reviewed: December 20, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Jura, France (but mostly the dutch mountains) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$15.00 | | Strengths: | graet price, nice chance to try a suspension seatpost | | Weaknesses: | When riding product's tension adjustor loosens and allows the seat to move from left to right. Tends to take in water and mud in the wet season. | | Similar Products Used: | none, but my friend has a rock-shox, feels a little better, but lasts al lot longer. (costs about 10 x as much...) | | Bike Setup: | cannondale m900, rock-shox mag21, flite titanium saddle (explains the need for a suspension seatpost) | | Bottom Line: | nice chance to try a suspension seatpost without paying big bucks. defenitely entry level. I already ordered a rock-shox. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paulo Jorge Calado
a Weekend Warrior
from Serra Stº António, Portugal
Date Reviewed: November 25, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Chão das Pias, P. de Mós | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Strengths: | Cheap. Looks good. | | Weaknesses: | No damping added to a general fragility. It´s just not strong enough for the rocky trails in this part of the country. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Stock BH Coronas Replica | | Bottom Line: | You can't go much cheaper but it is definately not for off-road use. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard Dennis
a Racer
from Bathurst NB Canada
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | French Fort Cove Miramichi | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Great Strong Alloy Post, Provides a nice smooth ride, a great seat post for its cost. | | Weaknesses: | When riding product's tension adjustor loosens and allows the seat to move from left to right, sometimes noticeable but not much, just carry an allan key with you | | Similar Products Used: | N/A | | Bike Setup: | M Canada 2000 Chris Harnett Signature Edition Dual Shock, Pure Shimano Guts, Trek Seat, Cateye Mitty Computer, RST Front Shocks, an amazing bike | | Bottom Line: | A Great cost-effective seat post, efficent and cheap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Weekend Warrior
from Savannah, GA
Date Reviewed: April 12, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Gwinnett Street and Skidiway Island | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | PRICE!!! | | Weaknesses: | None so far!!! | | Bike Setup: | Giant Iguana SE, XT components, etc.... | | Bottom Line: | Great seatpost for the price. Works well on the roughest trails in our area. The biggest thing is that the old "tush" isnt sore anymore after a long ride!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Raffy Yllana
a Weekend Warrior
from Manila, Philippines
Date Reviewed: March 30, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Low price - US$13.00 compred to more expensive brands like control and Rock Shox | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Bike Setup: | All Shimano STC-RC group, Selle Italia Spx saddle, MOB stems | | Bottom Line: | No other suspension seatpost can come cheaper. Works just like the more expensive brands which cost 8X more for road use. Haven't tried it yet on trails. I weight 195 lbs. and hope its last for more than a year. If it does then it much worth than the cost. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luis Rodríguez
a Cross Country Rider
from San Juan, PR
Date Reviewed: March 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Cambalache and Susua Forest | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Cheap. Looks good. | | Weaknesses: | Twist easy. Not for XC. Good for any recreational rider. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Haro Escape Shimano XT, XTR, Manitou Pro fork. | | Bottom Line: | Not so bad for a cheap seat post. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hiker Boy
a Weekend Warrior
from Richmond, BC, Canada
Date Reviewed: March 2, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | It works!
You can adjust the load and there is no "pogoing". I like it stiff as I am a big guy weighing in at 230 lbs. | | Weaknesses: | The narrow post slips a bit even with a shim. | | Bike Setup: | '99 Raleigh Tarantula | | Bottom Line: | A really inexpensive post which gives you some suspension over the small bumbs (normally, your bum wouldn't be riding on the seat over the large bumps anyways). It gives exactly what I would expect for a seatpost suspension system and more. The load adjustment feature is fantastic for what you would normally expect from an inexpensive item. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kris Hunt
a Cross Country Rider
from Wales, GB
Date Reviewed: February 9, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Machen Mountain | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Its cheap.
Comes in different widths, hence no need for shims. | | Weaknesses: | Not much, lack of travel perhaps, not 'trick' name? | | Similar Products Used: | Only rigid posts. | | Bike Setup: | Stock 98 Kona Caldera | | Bottom Line: | Having a few back problems, thought I would try a little bit of suspension to ease the numbness. Saw it in a Cardiff bike shop for about 20 pounds. Even though the caldera is quite soft at the back, it has made a huge difference to the way I ride. Being able to sit down for longer over rough ground is beneficial to power output etc etc.
Havent noticed the problems that some have mentioned with a changing distance to the pedals as it travels.
If you fancy a bouncy seat post but cant afford the likes of the USE, then its worth a try. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brent Passage
a Cross Country Rider
from Fremont, Michigan, United States
Date Reviewed: January 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | C razy Beaver | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Very inexpensive,very hard to break, and fits a wide variety of bikes | | Weaknesses: | None so far | | Similar Products Used: | rigid post | | Bike Setup: | Moab 3 Aluminum with XTR rapid rise rear derailleur, STX-RC rapid fire shifters, STX front derailleur, STX Cranks, Mavic X138 Rims, Kore stem, Tranz-X suspension seat post, and Shimano 636 clipless pedals | | Bottom Line: | This seat post is alot better than a rigid. It walens the trail ripples and bumps fairly well. It is very inexpensive and is a very durable and quality made product. I have rode it for a year and I have never had a problem with it. If you are looking for an inexpensive suspension seat post this is the one to buy. This post is vertualy indestructable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
b h
a Weekend Warrior
from castro valley, ca, usa
Date Reviewed: January 21, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | fairly inexpensive, fits a good number of bikes using the shim adjustments. adjustable tension | | Weaknesses: | the plastic piece used to control friction must be loosened to allow movement which also allows the seat to move left to right, however, not noticeable on rides
suggest going to local hardware store and getting a can of white grease spray and dousing the internals to allow for easy movement | | Similar Products Used: | tranz-x is branded by cyclepro and k2 | | Bike Setup: | body geometry seat, tranz-x seatpost, QR beam removable bike rack
| | Bottom Line: | its an inexpensive seat post that works well on long xcountry rides | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris Davies
a weekend warrior
from Cape Town
Date Reviewed: January 8, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Bought this seatpost for ~$40. Real comfortable at first - soaked up a lot of small bumps and stopped me damaging my butt on the bigger ones. My son, who's ~140lbs rode it on his newspaper route and after a while it looked like it was bent. I rode it on single track and rough fire roads - and it bent like a pretzelwithin about 20 kms. Fortunately my LBS refunded my money - it helps to speak loudly when complaining so the other customers start listening. | | Overall Rating: |
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