Formerly known as the Pivot Plus, Tricky Dick is the flagship of the Tamer suspension seatpost line, designed for ultimate comfort and performance in every condition you can throw at it. The pivoting action allows for a very responsive ride, eliminating any stiction. The internal spring delivers constant action and controlled rebound. Tamer’s hollow pin system gives easy access for lubricating the pivots without disassembly of the seatpost.
Length – Standard/MTB: 350mm or 400mm
Suspension Style – Spring with 25mm of preload adjustment
Travel – 65mm
Diameter – Standard/MTB: 25.4, 27.2 and 29.8mm
Maximum Insertion – 83mm from centerline of seat rails to top of seat tube
Warranty – Lifetime
Weight – Standard/MTB: 470g (27.2), 460g (25.4)
Features – Pin Lube System and Internal spring ride control. Available in silver or black for 2003.
Submitted by
Eddie
a Cross Country Rider
from Sacramento, CA Date Reviewed: September 10, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$130.00
Purchased At:
universalcycles.com
Strengths:
good concept
Weaknesses:
engineers did no calcs on what forces the pivot pins must withstand, and forgot to put in a bump stop...first design (Pivot Plus) was REALLY bad! Did they really expect the seat clamp to work?
I had the original style Pivot Plus that held up well, except for two design flaws....the pins were hollow, and there's no bump stop to absorb severe shock when bottoming out. My post finally failed when I bottomed out (only an 18" drop). One of the pins sheared, all the others were bent, and the ears of the aluminum block mounted on top of the post bent out. This could have been prevented if the pins were solid, and there was a way to incorporate a bump stop.
The new design improves the seatpost clamping..that's it. It still has the same good ride, but still the same lame quality....like owning a nice sports car that you prey won't break down on you.
I give it a "3" for overall rating because of the improved ride and comfort, but only a "2" for value because it's still a crappily engineered product.
For a discussion on modifications to make this paper mache product hold up, navigate to the "New Products and Innovations" forum, and see the discussion topic "Tamer Pivot Plus / Tricky Dick Engineering Mods".
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Submitted by
James Herman
a Weekend Warrior
from Farmington Hills MI USA Date Reviewed: May 19, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Island Lake
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$109.00
Purchased At:
Bikeman.com
Strengths:
Worked pretty good but wore out.
Weaknesses:
It broke while on a wet ride and tore my $110.00 goretex rain pants. I had to ride home standing up.
Similar Products Used:
I replaced it with a Nashbar generic suspension seatpost on all three of my bikes.
Bike Setup:
I have 3 bikes. A full suspension performance XC, a folder and a trek 1000 road bike.
Bottom Line:
I thought Tamer went out of business. But I just saw the Tamer Tricky Dick for sale on Bikeman.com. After the one on my XC bike broke, I noticed that the one on my folder was very loose and ready to break. So I just replaced all three as I didn't want to risk being on a ride and having it ruined when the seatpost broke. I'm just going to stick with a suspension seatpost with a spring inside the tube. Most of those seatposts come with a spring for a 'typical' 150 pound rider. So if you fall well below or above that then you'll need to get the stronger or the weaker spring.
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Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Riverton, Wyoming Date Reviewed: September 16, 2006
Favorite Trail:
mountains
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar
Strengths:
Just wanted to update my review from last year. Still using the seatpost, as I have low back problems and I couldn't ride without the comfort of this suspension post. On small bumps, rocks, ruts, etc, it is better than my new 06 Rocky MTn. Element 50 full suspension ride. Of course on the bigger stuff it bottoms out, but it was never meant to replace full suspension. But it gives a great ride for anyone who likes the performance of a hard tail bike, but can't take the harsh ride. I have 2 of these seat posts and the second one is on my road bike. It is absolutely magic for a road bike.
Weaknesses:
After 3 years I did wear out a pivot bushing and sent it back to Tamer Industries and they replaced it for $35, with shipping. It does squeak if you don't keep it lubed frequently. No other problems have occured and I still weigh 200lbs. I have the same time on the my road bike post and it has been absolutely perfect with no problems.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Trek 8000 mtn. bike with updated front fork. Centurion Steel road bike
Bottom Line:
If you like hardtails but are getting sore butt or back, you owe it to yourself to get one of these !
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Submitted by
Jim Peoples
a Weekend Warrior
from Norco, La. (Jefferson) Date Reviewed: November 19, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Comite Park-Baton Rouge, La.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$147.00
Purchased At:
Tamer, direct
Strengths:
Softens the blows from roots and rough ground, adjustable preload
Weaknesses:
None, until it breaks
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Gary Fisher, Cateye computer, Roque lock down grips, seat change
Bottom Line:
This thing was great, right up until the time it broke the pluger that connects the pivot levers to the spring actuator leaving me on the ground in severe pain. I'm new to dirt, I'm 59 yrs. old and run out of breath way too fast, so I know I didn't over work this product. I've heard from two bike shops and from internet articles, that this is certainly not the first one that broke. Please, think twice about using this seat post! If you're using it on a mountain bike to take the place of rear suspenion, please be gentle with it, the life you save could be your own!
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Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Riverton Wyoming Date Reviewed: July 26, 2005
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Tricky Dick's
Strengths:
Excellent action and comfort. I have TWO of the seatposts, one on my rode bike and one on my Mt. bike! They are both excellent. The rode bike one makes the tar strips and bumps disapear! The mountain one makes the ride from my lightweight hardtail very manageable! And both of them give me rigid bike performance when I stand to pedal!!! I highly recommend these seatposts to anyone who wants to make their road bikes more enjoyable for long rides and their hard tail Mt. Bikes better without the extra weight and power robbing of the full suspension bike. You owe it to youself to try one! I really like both of mine!!
Weaknesses:
None that I've found! I weigh 200lbs and they perform very very well!
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Trek 8000 hard tail and Centurion steel frame road bike, both with the Tamer seat posts!
Bottom Line:
I would rate these a 5 of 5 for comfort, performance and durability!
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Submitted by
Phillip
a Cross Country Rider
from Fairbanks, Alaska Date Reviewed: May 17, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Birch Hill x-country trails
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar
Strengths:
Smooths out gravel roads, washboard, roots, rocks - very comfortable. Guess I'm in the honeymoon stage cause I'm still looking for rough stuff to ride through...just to smile as it smooths out the bumps. Lots o gravel roads where I live and now riding then is a real pleasure.
Weaknesses:
This product requires maintenance, not necessarily a weekness. I squirt a little Tri-Flo in the bushings after every few rides and am not then bothered by squeeks. Also lub where the activator arm enters the casing. Weight? Who cares. Drink a glass of water before you ride and that will add about 225gm just above the saddle so what's a 100gm or so added to the seatpost. (IMHO)
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
A couple Bridgestone MB1's w/ Manitou 3 forks fitted with springs and Tricky Dick seatposts.
Bottom Line:
Take the time to properly adjust the seatpost tension and saddle position. The seat post will respond quicker after being lubed. I cut a quarter inch of the allen wrench used to adjust the saddle to make turning the adjusting screw a little easier. Am so impressed with this seatpost I've ordered another for my road bike. They're on sale right now at Nashbar for $70 - 26.8mm only size left (May 17). Can't imagine anyone being dissapointed with this thing - get one, you'll like it.
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Submitted by
G G
a Weekend Warrior
from Annapolis, MD Date Reviewed: May 15, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Dirt
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
on-line
Strengths:
Works great! I'm 200 lbs. and use the heavy spring cranked pretty good; in this mode big bumps are cushioned but there is no bob when pedaling & climbing.
Weaknesses:
Oil often or it creaks; makes it a bit greasey but we play in the dirt anyway. Makes me wonder how long it will last although it's still tight after 18 months. Wish it was lighter but don't know where weight could be removed without compromising strength/durability or cost(Ti or graphite)
Similar Products Used:
Cane Creek Thudbuster
Bike Setup:
Cannondale hardtail
Bottom Line:
If this seatpost lasts longer the frame, I might consider another hardtail.
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Submitted by
Tony
a Cross Country Rider
from Flagstaff, Az.USA Date Reviewed: March 5, 2004
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Tamer
Similar Products Used:
Thudbuster and a variety of telescoping seat posts.
Bike Setup:
29 inch Fisher
Bottom Line:
This is a follow up to my previous review of the Tamer Tricky Dick. Because of my problems with the Tamer I did purchase a Thudbuster. What a mistake! The Tamer out performs the Thudbuster in comfort and shock absorbtion. I test rode the Thudbuster for twenty miles and found it to be rigid compared to the Tricky Dick. (Rode the recomended elastomers for my weight.) The ride was on a moderately rocky fire road and I now have that old hard tail lower back pain again. Had none of this discomfort in 2500 miles of riding the Tamer. In spite of the weaknesses described in my previous review of the Tamer (squeaks, knocks when compressed, gets grease on shorts, and I bent the post and broke the pivot pins) I will stick with it and will be selling the Thudbuster. I would have to say that after riding telescoping posts, the Tricky Dick and now the Thudbuster that the Tamer is likely the most comfortable suspension seat post on the market. I also test rode a 293 Fisher with Fox Float rear suspension and found that it was not as comfortable as my hard tail with the Tricky Dick seat post. Maybe I'm just too hard on my body and my bike and should ride a full suspension with the Tamer Tricky Dick!
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Submitted by
Tony
a Cross Country Rider
from Flagstaff Az Date Reviewed: February 26, 2004
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
directly from tammer
Strengths:
Soaks up the bumps and saves the lower back. Company backs up product. Has serviced twice at no charge. Great product for wife who does not ride frequently or hard. Works equally well at all temperatures.
Weaknesses:
Requires too much maintenance. Needs to be lubed every few rides and starts squeaking part way through rides. Also has developed a knock about 1/4 inch into compression. Pivot pins broke, post bent and had to be rebuilt by tammer after about 2000 miles. Very dirty and grease gets on clothing. Put sock over it keep from ruining work clothes. Use the bike to commute to work as well as trails.
Similar Products Used:
Conventional telescoping with elastomer.
Bike Setup:
29 inch Fisher with XT drive train and shifters. Avid mech disc brakes
Bottom Line:
very comfortable and far superior to telescoping designs. Trying to decide if I should send it back for the third time to Tammer or just buy a Thudbuster and give the Tammer away. Too noisy, too much lubercating, too dirty, and can't get rid of the knocking. In spite of these issues it is a much better ride than no suspension at all.
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Submitted by
Jeff Fose
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, California, USA Date Reviewed: February 16, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Pennisquitos canyon preserve
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$119.00
Purchased At:
Beyond Bikes
Strengths:
Smooths out the big bumps. Cheaper then getting a whole new full suspenstion bike, if your current bike is pretty good. Helps in climbs that are full of big rocks by letting you still sit down to apply weight to the rear wheel.
Weaknesses:
Small bumps still get through when you tune for the big bumps. Will probably need a shim to fit your bike, but the shim I got from Beyond Bikes from USE was a thermoplastic model that said it had the correct internal and external diameter but it was way way off and unusable even with attempts to sand it down or even carve it down. Your best bet is to bring in your current seatpost to a local bike shop (Beyond is local for me) and have them use a dial caliper to show that the seatpost with the correct shim (get aluminum instead of plastic if you can) will be a match to your current seatpost. If you do then installation will be very easy.
Similar Products Used:
None.
Bike Setup:
Specialized Stumpjumper hardtail.
Bottom Line:
Worth the money if you don't want to or can't trade in your current bike for a full suspension just yet. It lets you climb the hills with lots of rocks easier then without it.
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Submitted by
Billy Graham Rides
a Cross Country Rider
from Memphis Date Reviewed: August 23, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At:
mtbreviewn classifieds
Strengths:
Very nice feel, easy to install, easy to adjust, Inexpensive
Weaknesses:
a little on the noisy side, but I am getting used to it. It doesn't affect the performance though. I JUST CAN'T SNEEK UP ON THE GUY I RISE WITH. MY "Mentor"
Similar Products Used:
back-breakers, kidney stone passers
Bike Setup:
1995 Fuji cro-moly hardtail, "The Dinosaur"
Bottom Line:
My back was hurting before the Tricky Dick. Now it doesn't. Which means I can ride longer & better than before. I weigh 215 lbs. & this seat post works for me. I did have to crank it about 8 or 9 turns, as directed, but I love the cushion. No, its not a full suspension ride, but I reccomend it until you make that move.
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Submitted by
James Scherer
a Weekend Warrior
from Rogers, AR, USA Date Reviewed: June 12, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Strengths:
Can easily adjust rebound play. Lacks Lateral rotation. Smooth action. Have ridden same trails with different suspension posts and this is the smoothest of them all.
Weaknesses:
Hard to adjust seat position. If too tightly set can rebound with great force. If too loosely set will sag.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou Answer Suspension post Rock Shox MTB suspension post
Bottom Line:
If comfort is your desire out of a shock, then this will deliver. It handles any size bump with effortless ease and smooth transition. It is easily adjusted and lacks side sway. It is a parrallelogram design which at first I was cautious about with fears of stance changes during riding as it absorbs the bumps. Haven ridden on it I find that I have more riding stance disturbance with a tradition up/ down post design than with this post's set up.
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Submitted by
Mariko
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose, CA, USA Date Reviewed: June 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
City and Communting
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Lessens major impacts, but I don't like the "frequency" of the vibration or minor jarring at uneven trails.
Weaknesses:
Saddle retaining nut loosens frequently, shifting the saddle position frontwards. See also my "spinal" comments, review, below.
Similar Products Used:
No name
Bottom Line:
Do you also have sharp, sudden back pain after riding a parallogram suspension seatpost?
I have (thankfully mild) sharp pains on bending or moving certain ways after using a parallogram suspension seatpost (e.g. Thudbuster, Tamer Tricky Dick, Moxey). Please post if you, or other cyclists, experienced any pains coincidental to the use of any of these seatposts.
My bicycle rides consist of city paths that are uneven at times. My saddle is a wide, gel with springs.
Although I'm not a doctor, I see that the parallelogram suspension *streches* the spine when it throws the body rearward (away from the handlebar) on dips, then *compresses* the spine on the rebound. This stretching appears to be more severe with the leaning position on mountain bikes. Therefore, I suspect that parallelogram suspension seatposts harm the spine.
I hope my pain will go away.
Mariko San Jose
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Submitted by
jackson
a Weekend Warrior
from santa fe, new mex, usa Date Reviewed: May 25, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$130.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Bottom Line:
This is a very expensive seatpost that needs much maintenance in my humble opinion. This review is my own personal opinion from this consumer's use (test). The main flaw with the Tamer Tricky Dick is that it is "too tricky" to ride safely because the contact patch with the road shifts as the parallelogram suspension moves down/backwards. The backward shift causes a drastic shift in the center of gravity imho. Sold this too-tricky Tricky Dick. I don't want it or the Thudbuster which I assume will have the same tendencies.
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Submitted by
Bernhard Resch
a Cross Country Rider
from Reading, PA Date Reviewed: May 23, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$99.00
Purchased At:
nashbar
Strengths:
Definately takes out a lot of bumps!
Weaknesses:
started squeaking after about 10 hours of riding (spread over a couple days/ diff. conditions) with no maitainance. WD-40 fixed the problem. Could come with an Allen wranch, so I don't have to grind mine down in order to mount my saddle. That probably erases any chance to claim warranty of my craftsman wranch, if need be.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Raleigh M50 Hardtail with a bunch of upgrads. Avid Speed dial 7 brakes, titic stem+ hellbend handlebar. Mavix 222 wheels. panaracer fire xc tires, xt stuff,..
Bottom Line:
When I go over small roots and stones (1-3" high)I don't feel much anymore. Can't take out the big bumps, but that's not what is designed for I would assume. It does what it's supposed to do - saves your butt from getting numb. I have a little bit of side to side play on my top links, which I'm not sure if it was there from the beginning. I'll have to keep an eye on it. I also ride it a little stiffer than the manuel recommends, because I don't like to bottom out. (165 lbs and I need 1 turn more as suggested) Overall I have to say not a bad product for the money and I'll give it 4 out of 5 because of the allen wranch and the squeaking (drives you crazy uphill!!)
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Submitted by
Norm
a Downhiller
from Hilly Philly, PA, USA Date Reviewed: May 12, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Nearby ravines
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$25.00
Purchased At:
Used parts bin at club race
Strengths:
- The ride feels great at the onset especially for a hardtail bicyclist. It fells like floating on water if you can avoid bottoming out. This may not suit riders used to hardtail pumping as some potential pedal energy is lost during the Tricky Dick's "float".
Weaknesses:
- With the Tamer Tricky Dick, I found myself sliding rearward off the saddle. The ride feels somewhat unreal, and there is a loss of feel for the terrain. - I could not find a comfortable position as the saddle went forward/backward with Tamer's parallelogram design. - The Tamer suspension seatpost, imho review, is suitable for a weekend dandy who will never ride in wet slop or want to disassemble a hollow pin. - The Ti (titanium) Tricky Dick version was almost as heavy as the aluminum seatpost. I don't know if the Ti is more durable. My Ti eyeglass frame broke on a weld and Dunhill said it was not repairable. So much for Dunhill "quality". Has anybody seen a good review of the Ti's durability in long-term use?
Similar Products Used:
Nashbar el-cheapo
Bike Setup:
No-name bike made from scavenged parts
Bottom Line:
- It seems to bottom out easily depending on rider weight and terrain. When this happens, the hollow pins take a brutal hit and deform, affecting rebound or dampening. In other words, you'll have to spring (pardon the pun) for a new suspension seatpost.
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Submitted by
David M
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: May 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Morningside Park, Toronto
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$75.00
Purchased At:
eBay
Strengths:
Smooth action,dramatically reduces the impact of bumps and holes, feels great!
Weaknesses:
Had to by a shim to make it fit my bike (but it only cost $8.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Specialized HardRockPro, RockShox JudyC
Bottom Line:
I'm an out-of-shape 47 year-old whose been biking for about a year now, mostly on paved (but very bumpy and hilly) city bikepaths, for usually an hour a day. Even with a gel seat, I was getting tired of having a sore bum all the time . . . but now I'm eager to get out on the trails. I'm visiting California for a couple of months, and on the strong recommendation of Ken's Bike and Ski in Davis, decided to get a Tricky Dick. As it turned out, I saved myself $25US by buying it on eBay (my first purchase), and the folks at Ken's very kindly installed it for me for the cost of the special-order shim. I was a little worried that I'd be put off by the front-to-back action, but it hasn't been an issue at all. I'm REALLY pleased with this seatpost, and I'm much more likely to keep biking, and hopefully, even get in shape!
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Submitted by
Jake
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, CA, USA Date Reviewed: May 9, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
Mail Order
Strengths:
Doesn't move sideways
Weaknesses:
Not much different from a $20 suspension seatpost imho.
Similar Products Used:
Two Post Moderne models, less than $40 each.
Bike Setup:
Beach Cruiser
Bottom Line:
Overpriced, overweight, and over-rated. IMHO this is not a wise buy.
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Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Leavenworth, KS, USA Date Reviewed: May 7, 2003
Favorite Trail:
KATY Trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$99.00
Purchased At:
Bike Nashbar
Strengths:
It is very easy to maintain, has great adjustablity, very comfortable, and it works well in all situations I have encountered.
Weaknesses:
None that I can find
Similar Products Used:
Own a another Tricky Dick, a Slick Wiilie, and an Honest Abe on our tandem. I have used Garvin, Trek, and USE.
Bike Setup:
Tricky Dick on Trek 6500
Bottom Line:
The Tricky Dick is the best suspension seatpost I have used, and I have had others, including installing other brands on friends bikes.
There is no side to side play on this post, little time is needed to adjust and re-adjust the post, as I have had to do with other posts. There is no stiction on post to lube constantly so it will work. It has pivot points that are easy to clean and lube, and internal componets are durable and easy to maintain.
I would recommend the Tricky Dick to anyone who needs comfort, durability, and great adjustability. It will serve the weekend Rail Trail rider, and any agressive single track, down the trail at full bore rider.
Get the tricky Dick it will serve you well!
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Sandy Mercier
a Weekend Warrior
from Montreal, Quebec, Canada Date Reviewed: May 3, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Riverside
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Design appears to be novel. The saddle is sprung via two hinges riding on a tiny post that plunges into the post. This is an ingeneous (sp?) design according to the attention at the bike cafe. However, it's not wise to leave this shockpost with a Quick Release as it'll likely get stolen in downtown Montreal in no time.
Weaknesses:
Heavy, like an old U-lock that I refuse to carry these days. Stiction, as per above. When riding in wet weather, water got into the spring assembly - when I shook it, I was surprised by the amount of water that came out.
Similar Products Used:
Trans-X, Kalloy, Post Moderne
Bike Setup:
Trek
Bottom Line:
The reviews looked great, so I placed an order, and waited 4 weeks for Tamer to deliver to the distributor and on to my local bike shop. The first one came with the wrong size (27.2mm) despite what was clearly a 28.6mm item ordered. It took another 3 weeks to sort it out. I was unable to cancel because of the 50% deposit I placed with the bike shop, and the shop owner says he in turn made a deposit (apparently this is a rare item to order) with the distributor. When it finally came, I was disappointed at the performance and wonder if some of the "glowing" reviews are inaccurate. Tamer's "Tricky Dick" suspension seatpost was too hard for my rear end. After two weeks, the suspension finally became rigid ("stiction"??) and would barely move. I was out the $$$ because the LBS would not refund my money, claiming that mountain bike products (although I only used it in town) cannot be warranted. I ended up reverting to the Kalloy. Tamer's "warranty department" people can be described as "Promises, Promises" when/if they actually pick up the phone. Don't expect any return phone calls.
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Submitted by
Will
a Cross Country Rider
from Altadena, CA Date Reviewed: May 1, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Henniger
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
nashbar.com
Strengths:
Great comfort, well thought-out design, and quality manufacturing. I didn't realize what a difference a suspension post could make.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Old Trek 820 with Rockshox front forks. Basically a commuter bike during the week and very occasional outings on San Gabriel Mt trails on weekends.
Bottom Line:
At 57 years, spine stress is more dearly felt. Had been thinking of upgrading to a full suspension bike, but noticed a suspension post on a friend's bike. After reading reviews of main contenders on this site, the Tamer TD design seemed the most sensible (certainly most cost effective) choice. Checked with my niece's husband: an engineer who builds bikes and enjoys the Death Ride out of Markleeville CA. He too recommended the no-stiction parallelogram design. Ordered TD and sleeve sizer (to fit 26.0 mm frame) yesterday, installed and tested today: bumps, cracks, potholes, manhole covers -- what used to be spine jarring is now hardly noticed. Amazing!
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Submitted by
Hank Chinaski
a Cross Country Rider
from City,State,Country Date Reviewed: April 29, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
nashbar
Strengths:
Works very well. Plush. No pedal energy loss into the suspension. Hardly notice that it's there, except for the occasional 'pop' sound of it topping out after a dip or a big bump.
Weaknesses:
Noisy - needs a top out bumper to quiet it down, and the ball & socket joint at the top collects dirt & creaks after a while on the trail (lubing before every ride helps)
Similar Products Used:
Mongoose Amplifier II, Mongoose Pro NX 8.3
Bike Setup:
khs alite 4000 frame, manitou sx fork
Bottom Line:
This is a fantastic product. I have been riding full suspension for years, but got tired of the maintenance hassles, expense, weight penalty, and energy loss. I'm glad that I took a risk & bought the Tamer along with a lightweight aluminum frame. I can run it softer than I ran my FS bike because there isn't a 'bobbing' penalty - so its actually more plush than my FS bikes were! The top out popping noise does get a little annoying at times, though. I'm going to try to fashion a cover for it out of an old innertube & some velcro, in hopes of keeping it cleaner & dampening the noise a bit...
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Submitted by
Kyle Yost
a Racer
from Washington, DC Date Reviewed: April 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Blue Nile Gorge
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar.com
Strengths:
Cushioned my fat ass on some seriously rough African roads.
Weaknesses:
I didn't have a cover to product the working parts from the elements, particularly sand. I don't know if a cover is an option but it is certainly not well marketed if it is.
Similar Products Used:
None. The Cane Creek Thudbuster was used by other participants of the Tour d'Afrique, and many of them had protective covers which would have been handy.
Bike Setup:
Trek XO-1 cyclocross. Tamer Tricky Dick rear suspension with Brooks Professional saddle. No front suspension which was big mistake. My wrists, arms, and shoulders took a hell of a beating, but my ass did great!
Bottom Line:
I participated in the Tour d'Afrique (www.tourdafrique.com), a 7000 mile bike race from Cairo to Capetown. The section I did was 3500 miles from Cairo to Nairobi and was over some of the worst terrain imaginable. Through deep sand in The Sudan, over endless corrugation, and brutally rocky "roads" in Ethiopia. I suffered mightily by choosing a cyclocross bike and not electing to use front suspension, but my Tricky Dick seat suspension served me well. My hands, wrists, and shoulders took a hell of a pounding, but the seat suspension saved my ass and lower back. The Tricky Dick was easily adjustable to be very springy during the worst of the corrugated roads and terrible rocky roads, and very stiff for the rare sections of nice pavement. The fact that the suspension still worked after 3500 miles of sand and dust and constant pounding by my 200 pound (Ok, I was down to 185 by the end) is quite impressive in and of itself. The suspension did need to get lubricated quite frequently, which is not surprising when you are riding across deserts. It would have been nice to have a protective cover for the exposed parts like the Thudbuster has, but if such an item exists I am not aware of it. Nonetheless when the suspension would start to squeak and scream a few drops down into the spring would shut it up for a few more days of desert riding.
All in all, I must say the Tamer Tricky Dick seatpost was about the only wise decision I made regarding bike setup for this adventure. Next time, mountain bike with dual suspension.
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Submitted by
Rob Doran
a Cross Country Rider
from Wake Forest Date Reviewed: April 22, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Regency, Cary NC
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$99.00
Purchased At:
Performance
Strengths:
It's pretty smooth once it's adjusted.
Weaknesses:
A little noisy, but if you lube the snot out of it, it'll quiet down. I weigh about 190-lbs, and the preload adjustment with the stock spring is at the max.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Cannondale F600
Bottom Line:
Buy it if you're going to be riding that hard-tail for a while, and can't afford that sweet full suspension yet.
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Submitted by
Summer Jackson
a Racer
from Occidental, CA USA Date Reviewed: April 21, 2003
Favorite Trail:
king's ridge rd
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar
Strengths:
Riding on the back of a tandem was giving me massive butt pain until I obtained this seat post. I noticed an immediate and very positive difference in my performance, attitude, comfort and speed. I first used this seatpost on an 80-mile, 4-1/2 ml. tandem rally, and suffered no pain at all! Given that my captain prefers to use brakes seldom if ever and ride over railroad tracks and uneven roads at high speed, this is really wonderful.
Weaknesses:
After just a few rides, it became somewhat creaky, even after I oiled it properly. With correct maintenance, this problem is lessened, but the seatpost is not totally silent. Don't buy it if you aren't comfortable maintaining complex machines.
Bike Setup:
Burley Duet road tandem
Bottom Line:
Love the thing. A must-have item for the sensitive stoker.
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Submitted by
Denis Arsenault
a Weekend Warrior
from Rye Brook, NY Date Reviewed: April 16, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Looks, Performance
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Moxey, Thudbuster
Bottom Line:
Since I installed the Tricky Dick seatpost on my bike, it looks like they paved all roads in my county. Every road feels smooth and even
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Submitted by
david sundby
a
from ft. collins co. usa Date Reviewed: April 15, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Brave New Wheel
Strengths:
well-made, absorbs alot of energy from impacts that would otherwise harm and fatigue body lightweight for what it] does great company, which is a big plus if you buy a telescoping seatpost it will bind up in actual use, and you will have thrown your money away
Weaknesses:
the backwards motion is not good for someone with a VERY back ideally the post would have two parallelograms oriented in opposite directions so the seat would move in a path that is straight up and down
Similar Products Used:
moxey post, use, urepost,post moderne
Bike Setup:
miyata road
Bottom Line:
this post accoplishes what many full-suspension bikes (though not those with a true swingarm) do at a fraction of the cost , weight, and complexity.
another great bike product that really works. too bad a decent reliable drivetrain is not available anymore, and that bikes are fitted with wimpy wheels and disk brakes. tamer, would you develop a seven-speed drivetrain and decent indexed (rear deraileur only) set of shifters so we don't have to use the nine and soon-to-be ten-speed garbage that is being fitted to bikes? then people would not have to abandon the sport after they find out how much time, expertise, and money it takes to keep a modern bike running, and could actually make use of your seatpost.
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Submitted by
Pat Cuoco
a
from New Mexico Date Reviewed: April 10, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Quality, Neat looking
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
None
Bottom Line:
The Tricky Dick is a great product. Well Engineered and built. Performs as advertised.
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Submitted by
Arthur
a
from LaVetaUSA Date Reviewed: April 3, 2003
Favorite Trail:
I don't know
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
CBO/direct
Strengths:
fine piece of machinery. Well crafted. Unique, functional design. Light weight, considering. Very Smooth. the finest customer service.
Weaknesses:
probably over-engineered, bushings loosened after about 10 months. sometimes its squeaky.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Aluminum hardtail, nice ride.
Bottom Line:
This is a follow-up from long ago. I've had some problems, as alluded to in earlier review but Tamers customer service is second to none and will keep me coming back to their product. I highly recommend this component. Smooths out the rough stuff admirably. I ride mostly rocky singletrak and gravel/dirt roads. Really makes riding more enjoyable. Never really ridden FS, so I can't compare to that. BUY ONE.
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Submitted by
Charles Huchette
a Cross Country Rider
from Canada Date Reviewed: April 2, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
www.beyonbikes.com
Strengths:
save my butt, act like a full suspension bike without the weight, well crafted, HOLD THE SEAT TIGHT!, easy maintenance, the seatpost tube has mesures on it so you can remember your settings easily
Weaknesses:
kinda hard to adjust to the preload that fits you.. have to remove the seatpost everytime you try a new setting
Similar Products Used:
none, but i had this really piece of s... RITCHEY COMP seatpost which never held my seatpost, i was riding and the mofo was ripping my nuts apart! May Ritchey rot in hell!
Bike Setup:
stock cannondale f800 2002 with salsa skewers and tricky dick and some italia selle saddle
Bottom Line:
i really enjoy this product, it was wonderful how you can maintain it easily, really simple design that works! it really does make a difference, THANK YOU TAMER SAVED MY NUTS AND I LOVE YOU!
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Submitted by
Jeff Brown
a Cross Country Rider
from Irvine, CA Date Reviewed: March 27, 2003
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$109.00
Purchased At:
Tamer Direct
Bike Setup:
Several Bikes
Bottom Line:
Over the last 5 years I have purchased 4 Tamer swivel seatposts. The latest model is the "Tricky Dick". I ride with Tamer seatposts on all my mountain biked (including a full suspension tandem) and would not be without them. I have dealt with "Kevin" who is, I believe, one of the principals, with questions and maintenance issues and found him to be professional, responsive and knowledgeable regarding his product and mountain bikes in general.
I could not reccomend the product, and the ride it provides, more highly. It makes my cross-country full suspension a free ride bike without the weight. A+ product and A+ people behind it.
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Submitted by
Jens
a Cross Country Rider
from Germany Date Reviewed: March 21, 2003
Favorite Trail:
anything funny
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Tamer direct
Strengths:
function support! support! support! lifetime warrenty
Weaknesses:
inconstant squeeking (mostly depending on the adjustment of the seat cradle - my problem rather than Tamer's)
Similar Products Used:
USE XCR Rock Shox post
Bike Setup:
tough XC hardtail with Black Super Air and all lightweight XC stuff
Bottom Line:
Concerning function I'm extraordinary positively surprised! I suggest to forget about all the theoretical talking about pros and contras of parallelogram versus telescope systems and suspension post versus fully. Just try it. I bet that at least 90% of all testers won't regret it. I expected a noticable improvement of my hardtail ride. What I got is practically "riding on a cloud". No kidding. I was about to purchase a fully in addition to my hardtail. I've cancelled that idea after having ridden the Tricky Dick for about two months now. Due to the steel spring system and the striction free parallelogram the T.D. is so very sensitive that it even outperforms my Zoke Wedge and my Black Super Air - and both are known to be state of the art already. I've posessed and severely test ridden quite a number of fullies meanwhile (one-joint and quad-joint) and I can attest that none of them is any better than the T.D. concerning comfort! Of course, a fully provides a traction advantage. But a hardtail with a T.D. provides equal or better comfort, less maintanance and the advantage of no power loss. The T.D. has a wide adjusment range so that it can suit most anyone without severely bottoming it out (which occurs only in the toughest situations if at all - when you should have gotten up anyway instead of dreaming about the astonishing performance of the T.D.. By the way: if you're a serious rider even a fully doesn't release you from the need to raise your back quite often...). The movement of the system (back-down-wards) produces a funny feeling: it seems like the bottom bracket is moving forth and back under your body. In opposite, the extension of the cockpit during the backward motion is no noticable problem! But if you bear in mind that there is definitaly no power loss by nature (you're still riding a hardtail) I find this funny subjective effect very, very easy to accept. Besides, this effect is not disturbing at all since it is only a slight relative motion (5 cm max., I'd say). In my case I can report that I've even started to ride over increasingly big obstacles while deliberately staying seated to find out about the limits of the post - and I'm enjoying the fact that even big bumps don't do any harm to me! Of course they still mean a kick in your butt, but those kicks are no longer painful. So the limits are, well, unclear in a clearly positive way.
Furthermore, I'm happy to tell you my story of the meanwhile proverbial Tamer support: First Kevin and Brian took all the time that seemed necessary to me to find the right version of the T.D. for me. That process took a few weeks and many Emails from Germany to USA and back. And there were no remarkable delays in the communication (which itself is an exception nowadays). And the guys were extraordinary nice and helpful all the time even though I confronted them with a number of doubts and hesitations. And the product was backed up by information until it precicely reached my housdoor. When the T.D. arrived I found out that the cradle didn't allow to adjust the saddle the way I wanted ("nose down" to protect the family jewels), which was due to my relatively flat seattube angle. I mailed the problem to Kevin and - you guessed it - got an immediate reply: an unasked offer to send me a modified cradle (handcrafted by himself - it needed longer cuts for the saddle screw) for free within a few days, no charge at all even for the delivery. Remember: Tamer is situated in the US and I'm from Germany/Europe. Now, is that a support, or what??? In conclusion I can say that this was probably the best purchase in my MTB 'career'. Function and support are totally convincing. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Submitted by
Mat
a Cross Country Rider
from KS Date Reviewed: March 11, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$119.00
Strengths:
Gives new life to your old hardtail. Takes the pain out of small bumps and allows you to stay on your seat more.
Weaknesses:
Makes a lot of noise when it is not cleaned and oiled. It takes awhile to find the right pre-load to fit you, and you actually have to put your seat up a little higher than normal so when you sit on it, and it gives some, you are at the right height.
Good if you want something to soften up your hardtail without the weight and expense of a full suspension bike. It will not give you the feel of a full suspension; however, buy this if you just want something to smooth out the bumps. I've been using it for about 3 months now, and it has made my rides more enjoyable and I have less pain after.
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Submitted by
Jesus Perez
a Cross Country Rider
from North Miami Beach Date Reviewed: March 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Streets
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$98.00
Purchased At:
nashbar.com
Strengths:
Helped alleviate my lower back pains. Allows a greater range of seat adjustment than my stock seatpost. The Pivot area is large enough to pass a chain through in case you need to lock up your bike and don't want the seatpost/seat stolen. Set up in less than 5 minutes. It was very easy and intuitive.
Weaknesses:
A little wax lubricant with the post would have been a nice touch. Aside from that, it rocks.
Similar Products Used:
None. This was my first suspension seatpost and I didn't want to get scarred with a nasty one. Prior to this I was using a regular stock seatpost.
Bike Setup:
Very cheap. Using a Cignal Kokomo Hybrid with 27" Continental tires to do lots of touring and street biking in Miami and the Beaches. Hardtail with no fork suspension.
Bottom Line:
I'm a simple rider. No trails at all. I do lots of rides between 4-17 miles on streets and my back's been killing me lately. I decided to upgrade to this seatpost even though it almosts costs as much my bike. I finally decided my back and health are worth more than $98. Also, I don't see the point in getting side-lined for a couple of months in order to save a few bucks.
The post responds smoothly. I never really noticed any obvious movement from it but I did notice the lack of impact upon my lower back. The post doesn't intrude and it feels quite natural. It is quite light in my opinion and I was also able to shift my seat further up-something I was never able to do before.
The sidewalks are much smoother, and I'm able to retain more control in traffic when potholes are present. I just wish these drivers down here would respect bikers more...
On a separate note, Nashbar shipped out very quickly and accurately. I was quite pleased with them as well...
Want to drop me a line for more info or questions...go to www.jperez.net
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Submitted by
Evan Kruse
a
from Eugene, OR Date Reviewed: March 2, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Phil's trail, bend, OR
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$169.00
Purchased At:
Hutchs Bicycles, Eugene, OR
Strengths:
This is a clean unit. Machining and pivots seem to be well made. The movement of the saddle to handlebar measurement is minimal compared to other pivoting posts.
Weaknesses:
Maintenance needed, though any suspnesion seatpost should require this for optimal results
Similar Products Used:
Various slider posts have been used, all with abysmal results.
Bike Setup:
Cannondale hardtail, tubeless, disc brakes, Headshok fork, Tamer post
Bottom Line:
Seems like a well made unit. Initial feelings are good. This should allow me to carry a larger assortment of camera gear on my rides.
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Submitted by
Michael Wright
a Cross Country Rider
from Huntsville, AL Date Reviewed: February 26, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Monte Saneo St. Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
bikenashbar
Strengths:
Easy to install. Does a good jobn of taking some of the sting out of smaller obstacles. High quality construction.
Weaknesses:
None
Bike Setup:
Older titanium frame with minimal suspension travel fork and hardtail
Bottom Line:
Buy this seatpost if you are looking for a quality product that takes some edge off bumps and allows for faster riding over rough terrain. A good upgrade without going to the expense of a full suspension frame.
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Submitted by
Brad Taylor
a
from Renton, WA Date Reviewed: February 19, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Tapeworm, Renton, WA
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Performance
Strengths:
Smooth feel, nice machine work, sturdy and simple design. I like the feel of the parallelogram, it gives you more travel than the standard suspension posts and has a better feel than going straight up and down.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
None-this is my first suspension seatpost
Bike Setup:
Specialized Rockhopper Pro
Bottom Line:
Feels great and does what I wanted it to do, which is allow me to stay on my seat over small rocks and roots so that I dont loose momentum on the slower more technical trails.
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Submitted by
marc
a Cross Country Rider
from san diego, ca, usa Date Reviewed: February 3, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
tamer
Strengths:
well-constructed, does what it's supposed to do.... Great customer service from Brian....2#
Weaknesses:
use of shims......but.....not really a big deal....
Similar Products Used:
none....read the reviews....though this was the best..
Bike Setup:
Ritchey P-20, XTR, 1" SID, tricky dick
Bottom Line:
I like it!
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Submitted by
heather loudon-howley
a Cross Country Rider
from farmington, nm Date Reviewed: January 29, 2003
Favorite Trail:
colorado trail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
nashbar.com
Strengths:
this seatpost is very well made. it is strong, has a nice stinffness and yet good 'cush' to it. responds well to bumps, rocks, and other obtacles on the trail. the suspension also responds to the inner thigh grab while descending hills.
Weaknesses:
creaks and squeeks. be sure you order the correct stiffness for your weight!
Bike Setup:
kona explosif
Bottom Line:
overall, the seatpost is great. riding has been more pleasurable...I've ridden a hard tail for 14 years. the tricky dick has been great to my lower back. maybe I'm oldschool, but I'm not ready to go full suspension...thanks tamer!
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Submitted by
BRIAN MANDERSCHIED
a Weekend Warrior
from ESTERO, FL Date Reviewed: January 20, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$95.00
Purchased At:
BIKE NASHBAR
Strengths:
WELL MADE. WORKS VERY WELL ON MY NON-SUSPENSION FRAME. ADJUSTABLE PRELOAD IS A GREAT FEATURE.
Weaknesses:
NONE
Similar Products Used:
NONE
Bottom Line:
I WOULD RECOMEND THIS PRODUCT.
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Submitted by
Joe Sanfilippo
a Downhiller
from Arbor Vitae, Wi., USA Date Reviewed: January 19, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Escanaba
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Z-Best Bike
Strengths:
Smooth action. Like floating while riding. Bumps don't bump me now.
Weaknesses:
haven't found it yet
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
1994 Cannondale f-500 with head shock
Bottom Line:
Much improved riding. Smooth as silk. You would think you were riding a full suspension bike. Another bonus, besides the smooth feel on your butt, is your vision is less blurred when speeding down rugged hills. I have only used it a couple of times because this place froze up and I am using my skis now. I like this upgrade to my bike. I am glad my standard post broke and the dealer fixed me up with the "Tricky Dick" It is like a piece of French Silk pie! I recommend this post to any one concerned with comfort and longevity of there body parts.
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Submitted by
Bob Cogan
a Weekend Warrior
from Woodbury, NJ Date Reviewed: January 17, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar.com
Strengths:
good amount of travel, weight adjustable (with spring kit $25)
Weaknesses:
extra $25 for spring kit, keep it lubed
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Gary Fisher Big Sur
Bottom Line:
The best upgrade I have done to my bike. I used to get sore from a long day of riding, but now I can go out 2 or 3 days in a row. Its like I have a brand new suspension bike. I weigh 225 and with the fat boy spring this thing handles me no problem. I ride alot more since I got this post as it has made rocky, rooty trails so much more fun and less painful. I love it!
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Submitted by
joe pickens
a Cross Country Rider
from Davis, CA Date Reviewed: January 16, 2003
Favorite Trail:
changes the more I ride
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Awesome quality and finish. Works awesome.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox, White Brothers
Bottom Line:
I purchased the tricky dick to try and make my hardtail fun again, and it did just that. The suspension action is great! It smoothes out all the little stuff and lets you stay seated through rough and bumpy climbs, improving rear wheel traction. It has also ended rear wheel kick when going over obstacles, you know that annoying feeling of the rear end throwing you over the front. The travel is very smooth and natural seeming. The machined parts look super!
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Submitted by
jim
a Weekend Warrior
from cincinnati, oh, usa Date Reviewed: January 2, 2003
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Very well machined. Install and set up was easy. Fine tuning adjustments were simple. The suspension is smooth. When riding, I flow over bumps and small roots that used to pound me. I don't have to stand on the pedals as much, so it saves my legs for the really good climbs!
Weaknesses:
None that I can find.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
An off-the-rack Mongoose, which I love to ride.
Bottom Line:
If you don't want to spend a lot of money for a full-suspension upgrade, this suspension seatpost is the way to go. No, it's not made for the hardcore downhiller, but for old guys like me (I'm 51), it's just what I was wanting...some relief for the ol' rear end!
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Submitted by
George Yu
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, CA Date Reviewed: January 2, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Lickton Bikes
Strengths:
It improves stoker comfort on a tandem bike better than the other suspension seatpost that we tried at the dealer. (Rockshox)
Weaknesses:
No way to adjust the spring without removing the seatpost completely.
Similar Products Used:
A non parallelogram suspension seatpost, probably also by Tamer, that my wife and I took for a test ride at the dealer
Bike Setup:
Burley rock and roll tandem with 1.5" tires, riding mostly on paved roads.
Bottom Line:
My wife likes the ride comfort much better than with either the original non suspended seatpost, and also much better than with the non parallogram suspended seatpost we test rode. And were just using it on paved roads. Very satisfied.
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Submitted by
Martin Braun
a
from Garland, TX Date Reviewed: January 2, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Works well on small and mid sized bumps
Weaknesses:
As mentioned below, it does make a squeaking sound if not cleaned and lubed often.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Trek 6500, mostly stock
Bottom Line:
The Tamer Tricky Dick is as described below (I was skeptical of this thread after finding out about the free socks with review). The seatpost is certainly on the pricey side, but it performs well, and when I purchased it from Tamer, they even swaped in the heavy duty spring for me (no extra charge) and make sure that the OD of the seatpost and the spacer (spacer was extra), would work with my bike. I've ridden my bike with the suspension seatpost a few hundred miles (some trail, some bike path), and it's been solid and made my bike a lot more comfortable and reduced butt fatigue. It does make a pretty loud, anonying noise if it gets dirty or needs lubrication. Most importantly it hasn't broken and ruined the family jewels (I'm 240+ lbs and that was something I was really worried about after reading all the Tudbuster reviews). Oh yeah I almost forgot, if you have a bike with a quite a bit of angle to the seatpost tube, with the way the Tamer is setup the seatpost clamp may not allow the seat to rotate far enough forward to get the tilt you want.
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Submitted by
Sally Logan
a Racer
from Des Moines, Iowa, USA Date Reviewed: December 29, 2002
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$100.00
Strengths:
This product meant the difference between riding our tandem and selling it. I tell everyone getting a tandem to look in this product. It is great.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Some of the other products offered bu tamer.
Bottom Line:
This is a must for tandem riders! It may mean the difference between an anniversary or divorce.
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Submitted by
Pete Kresmery
a Cross Country Rider
from Washington twp. MI USA Date Reviewed: December 14, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Highland, MI
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
Cambria Bike Outfitter
Strengths:
So far, there is NO side play that is common with the other "Strokers" I've ridden (and broken).
Weaknesses:
After breaking two other seatposts, I'm a little concerned with the durability of this seatpost, so far it feels great.
Similar Products Used:
White Brother Air Seatpost. (Snapped off two of these!)
Time will tell.....I like the post... NOW. It's quite heavy, it would be nice to combine the air spring of the White Brothers post with the mechanicals of this one????
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Submitted by
Ron Langhelm
a Cross Country Rider
from Gig Harbor, WA Date Reviewed: December 12, 2002
Favorite Trail:
The Pacific Northwest
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Old Town
Strengths:
The travel feels natural, drops to the rear rather than forward
Weaknesses:
Had to elongate holes in the seat mount to level the seat, pretty minor.
This is an excellent upgrade for any hardtail! My first ride was 15 miles of rough single track. Last time there my tail and back were sore. I still love my hardtail, the Tamer post will keep me on it.
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Submitted by
Agustin Goba
a Racer
from Snowmass Village, CO Date Reviewed: December 12, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Just one? Idon'tthinkso.
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$161.00
Purchased At:
Cambria
Strengths:
Great design, well built, does exactly what you need, looks like it was built tough, and seems to be designed for rebuilding if neccessart-it's not a throwaway product.
Weaknesses:
Have to remove seatpsot from bike to change preload. Cost--especially after seeing nashbar started carrying it for $50 less, the week after I bought mine.
Similar Products Used:
Linear suspension seatpsot with elastomer
Bike Setup:
KHS Montana Pro FZ, all XTR except for racefaceBB and crank, Judy SL fork
Bottom Line:
Like the Cane Creek Thudbuster, the Tricky Dick actually responds to force along the same axis of delivery, rather than responding at a slightly opposed angle, like att linear suspension seatpost devices. This makes for a smooth, full-travel response with none of the stiction problems of the linear suspensions. Unlike the Thudbuster, the Tricky Dick uses a spring (no elastomer to blow up), and it weighs less. A great engineering job! I can even keep a seatbag under my seat with no problem. Forget all other suspension seatposts; this is the one. Now if I can just get over the hesitation when I have to tell people I have a Tricky Dick.
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Submitted by
Bob Cogan
a Weekend Warrior
from Woodbury, NJ Date Reviewed: November 30, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar.com
Strengths:
good amount of travel, weight adjustable (with spring kit $25)
Weaknesses:
extra $25 for spring kit, keep it lubed or it squeaks
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Gary Fisher Big Sur
Bottom Line:
The best upgrade I have done to my bike. I used to get sore from a long day of riding, but now I can go out 2 or 3 days in a row. It's like I have a brand new full suspension bike. I weigh 225 pounds and with the fat boy spring this thing handles me no problem. I ride a lot more since I got this post as it has made rocky, rooty trails so much more fun and less painful. I love it.
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Submitted by
Andy
a Weekend Warrior
from Darien, IL, USA Date Reviewed: November 18, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Illinois Prairie Path
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$170.00
Purchased At:
Tamer.com
Strengths:
Far more responsive than a "standard" suspension seat post Customizeable to your weight by swapping springs (extra for the kit)
Weaknesses:
I will have to let you know on that.
Similar Products Used:
Nashbar suspension seatpost, other suspension seatpost (came with bike).
Bike Setup:
Stoker seat of tandem--using the Tricky Dick Roadie w/ the light weight spring.
Bottom Line:
Buy it if the stoker on your tandem yells every time you hit a bump without warning her. Forget it (the roadie version) if you are looking to jump fallen trees.
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Submitted by
James Herman
a Weekend Warrior
from Farmington Hills Michigan Date Reviewed: November 9, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Island Lake State Recreation Area
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$159.00
Purchased At:
Cambria Bicycle Outfitter
Strengths:
Allows me to jump curbs without raising up out of the saddle.
Weaknesses:
None that I can see.
Similar Products Used:
The seatpost that came with my bike. The spring in it was huge. Only bounced a little on bigger hits.
Bike Setup:
Mongoose Transport folding bike, 7 speed, that I've upgraded with a Rock Shox 1998 Judy T2 fork, stronger back wheel with megarange Shimano 7 speed cassette (34-11), and Shimano Asera rear derailure. I've adjusted the handlebars up high so I can ride comfortably upright. THis also allows me to comfortably put weight on the fork to minimize bob when I'm out of the saddle on a climb. I also have a derriair seat. You inflate it as often as you inflate your tires. A lamb skin seat cover keeps the black from rubbing off on your derriere. Also upgraded to Weyless B-27 MX Flat Pedals. It's an aluminum pedal with setscrew-style traction pins. Added Headland QuickSlide Front Fender and a back fender that attaches to the seatpost.
Bottom Line:
Thought about buying a full suspension mountain bike but with the Tamer 2002 Tricky Dick Suspension Seatpost upgrade I'm getting full suspension comfort but retaining hardtail pedaling efficiency (and about $2,500.00). I've never ridden a full suspension bike but now have an idea what it must be like. I just enjoy negotiating the hiking 'single track' trails that you find at some of the Michigan State Parks. Pickney State Recreation Area just north of Ann Arbor has some good trails too. The Tamer Tricky Dick allows me to go faster, safer and in comfort. When I set up the Tamer Tricky Dick I used Duralube instead of WD-40. You're supposed to get a little sag when you just sit on the seat. It kinda siezed and then you could feel it release but then with too much sag. I weigh about 150 lbs and had 4 turns of preload. After using the Duralube (which comes in a spray can just like WD-40 and is about 5 times better than WD-40) I used 4 and 1/2 turns and got a little sag without the sieze/release feel. It worked like the set up directions described. I went for a 6+ hr ride today. Went over curbs, bulldozer tracks, all the stuff you find along Grand River Ave from Farmington Hills to Kensington Recreation Area as well as the blue trail at Island State Recreation Area. The Tamer Tricky Dick handled it all.
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Submitted by
muletrane
a Weekend Warrior
from New Jersey Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Nashbar.com
Strengths:
good amount of travel, weight adjustable(with spring kit $25)
Weaknesses:
extra $25 for spring kit, keep it lubed or it squeaks
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Gary Fisher Big Sur
Bottom Line:
The best upgrade I have done to my bike. I used to get sore from a long day of riding, but now I can go out 2 or 3 days in a row. It's like I have a brand new suspension bike. I weigh 225 and with the fat-boy spring this thing handles me no problem. I ride alot more since I got this post as it has made rocky, rooty trails so much more fun and less painful. I love it!
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Submitted by
Brad Taylor
a
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Tapeworm, Renton,WA
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Performance
Strengths:
Smooth feel, nice machine work, sturdy and simple design. I like the feel of the parallelogram, it gives you more travel than the standard suspension seat post and has a better feel than going staight up and down.
Weaknesses:
none found yet.
Similar Products Used:
none- this is my first suspension seat post
Bike Setup:
Specialized rock hopper PRO
Bottom Line:
Feels great and does what I wanted it to do. Which is allow me to stay on my seat over small rocks and roots so that I do not lose momentum on the slower more technical trails.
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Submitted by
walter lapchynski
a Cross Country Rider
from eugene, or, usa Date Reviewed: October 23, 2002
Favorite Trail:
anything long and steep
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$147.00
Purchased At:
bike friday
Strengths:
short suspension piece relative to thudbuster. sturdy all metal construction. nice machine work. lighter than other parallelogram design posts. suspension mechanism contained within post rather than exposed to elements. parallelogram design definately a plus over the traditional post.
Weaknesses:
not as much travel as other parallelogram posts. have to take the post out to adjust suspension feel. clamp bolt to mount saddle rails is impossible to get to even with a brand new ball end wrench. has a teeny bit of stiction. have to actually contact the company again to get different springs. can't attach seatpost bag to it.
Similar Products Used:
cane creek thudbuster, other tamer products.
Bike Setup:
bf pocket llama with sram 3x7 hub, 7.0 cassette, deraileur, and levers, 9.0 shifters, king headset, avid 25 brakes, terry fly ti saddle, xt front hub, etc...
Bottom Line:
fantastic for commuting. really sucks up all the garbage your average paved road throws at you. for a touring bike it would also work quite well. an older road rider without bike anorexia might enjoy it as well. feels pretty smooth, though can't wave a stick in terms of feel to the thudbuster, which also doesn't squeak. i will say the parallelogram design is a must. those other suspension seatposts are nothing but annoying training weights. for simple, non-technical cross country (maybe a rock or root or two), this would really add an element of comfort. but it really doesn't have enough travel to take any big hits, nor anything at high speed. but it's really well made and looks really nice. there are some minor quirks but overall, (except for the amount of travel), it's comparable to the thudbuster. i'd recommend it for sure.
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Submitted by
Woodman
a
from Frankfort, Kentucky Date Reviewed: October 7, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Performance
Strengths:
Nice smooth suspension. The saddle goes down and back when the suspension works, which feels natural and surely has less effect on leg extension than the telescoping posts.
Weaknesses:
Squeaks during break-in period. Awkward bolt on seat clamp. And it does admittedly look a little goofy (but not as goofy as, say, a Thudbuster).
Similar Products Used:
None.
Bike Setup:
Aluminum hard tail.
Bottom Line:
Riding my MTB is fun again now that it doesn't beat the heck out of my spine. The cost of a suspension seatpost is a lot less than the cost of a new full-suspension MTB.
Installing the seatpost is pretty straightforward, although the bolt on the seat clamp is difficult to reach and if you don't tighten it down thoroughly, the seat will slip backwards in the clamp. I had to saw off an allen wrench with a Dremel tool because a standard-length allen wrench wouldn't fit into the space. And I had to use a pipe as a cheater bar to get enough torque on the allen wrench.
Also, be aware that the seatpost comes unlubricated, which means you must take it apart and grease it before you ride it. Even though I did that, it squeaked loudly the first several rides, although now after seven or eight rides it doesn't squeak much at all (of course I lube it before every ride, too).
I can't say how this compares to a top-of-the-line full-suspension MTB, but for not much money it has sure made a big difference in how my hard tail rides.
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Submitted by
John Taylor
a Weekend Warrior
from Lexington, KY Date Reviewed: October 5, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Tamer
Strengths:
Ease of use and installation
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Santana Visa Tandem
Bottom Line:
When I contacted Tamer about purchasing the most practical shock post for my tandem, I found them to be one of the most professionally personable companies I have dealt with. Not only was their technician knowledgeable, but he knew exactly what I needed for my riding situation and was able to solve my problem with an affordable solution. Unlike a previous purchase from another company, the Tamer Tricky Dick fit properly the first time and performs far better than I expected...it will make a real difference for my wife on long tandems rides and I didn't have to mortgage my bike to purchase it!
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Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, CA, USA Date Reviewed: October 3, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
Lickton Bikes
Strengths:
It improves stoker comfort on a tandem bike better than the other suspension seatpost that we tried at the dealer.
Weaknesses:
No way to adjust the springi-ness without removing the seatpost completely.
Similar Products Used:
a non-parallelogram suspended seatpost, probably also by Tamer, that my wife and I took on a test-ride at the Dealer
Bike Setup:
Burley Rock & Roll tandem bike with 1.5" tires, riding mostly on paved roads
Bottom Line:
My wife likes the ride comfort much better than with either the original non-suspended seatpost, and also much better than with the non-parallelogram suspended seatpost that we test-rode. And we're just using the standard spring. The manual says my wife can expect an even better ride if we swap out the standard spring for a lower-weight spring to better match my wife's body weight.
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Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Leavenworth, Kansas, USA Date Reviewed: October 2, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Katy Trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Tamer
Strengths:
Profile is same as my old Tamer Post Centric (new Slick Willy), Better feel with no stiction.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
USE, Tamer, and Garvin suspension seat posts
Bottom Line:
I needed to buy or fix my old suspension seat post. No mattter what I did it would freeze up and I would have to spend time re-building it, thus less time riding. I bought a new post from Tamer. The Tamer Tricky Dick is the best suspension seat post I have ever used. It is adjustable to various rider weights, and the rider can adjust the load on the spring and spacer to allow for any riding style. It is easy to maintain and lubricate, and its pivoting system will not cause any side to side play (a problem with other post I have had), and no stiction. I would recommend this seat post to any style of rider, from road riding to serious downhill mountain biking. You can't miss if you buy it.
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