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Mac enduser
a Weekend Warrior
from san diegoDate Reviewed: October 27, 2001
Strengths: CheapWeaknesses: does not keep innards cleanBottom Line: The only reason i bought these was purely for looks. So i did not follow the orignal instructions that ask that i remove the fork boots and the original wiper seals for less stiction. As soon as you touch this wiper you know it will not keep very much dirt out, it does not have very much surface contact and it's not very tight. So i left the orignal wiper on and packed grease under the white bros wiper and the fork was 3x smoother. that grease quickly leak out so i added a sponge and a fork oil/grease mixture that made the fork work more smoothly that a wiper/boot combo. With these seals you have more maintance than with a fork boot but my set up does run smoother and i think it takes away that K-mart look of the forks.
Favorite Trail: poison spider
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$20.00
Purchased At: lbs
Similar Products Used: stock boots
Bike Setup: '97 Judy Xc
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assclown
a Cross Country Rider
from Somewhere in KansasDate Reviewed: November 2, 2000
Strengths: None at all.Weaknesses: See BelowBottom Line: Don't even think about buying these things. I got mine pretty cheap, but they are still worthless. I figured that these wipers might do a better job at keeping the crud out of my seals on my Judy DH. I figured wrong. I feel really sorry for all of you guys that spent $20 or more for these. White Bros should be ashamed of themselves for making an inferior product. I couldn't get one of the wipers to seat properly on the lowers. What the hell? Might as well use nothing over my seals. I think I will give the Enduro-Wipers a try next. I heard that they actually work.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$10.00
Similar Products Used: Stock RS fork boots
Bike Setup: Irrelevant
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Luke
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxville,TN,USADate Reviewed: September 20, 2000
Strengths: Work well at first. Makes your fork look spiffy.Weaknesses: Does not increase performance.Bottom Line: These are only replacements for boots, and leave your stock XXX resiwiper seal in place wich is already sticky to begin with. They do not allow any type of radial movement, thus they begin to stretch over time as your fork stanctions push against them, leaving a gap and letting water and gunk in.
At first they did their Job scraping mud and gunk off the stanctions, nothing but a cosmetic improvment over boots though.
I used them for 3 months before they became unuseable and had to throw them away, which was an improvment to my ride as there was less dirt and mud getting caught on top of my resiwiper seals.
I cannot reccomend these products to anyone, as they are inferior to OEM boots, and are a complete waste of money.
Favorite Trail: Lock4
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$18.00
Purchased At: cambria
Similar Products Used: Moutainspeed speed seals (great!)
Bike Setup: 99 Jamis Dragon w/judy SL
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JOSE ORTIZ
a Weekend Warrior
from BRONX NEW YORKDate Reviewed: August 9, 2000
Strengths: LOOK COOL AND ARE EFFECTIVE WHEN NEW AND SAVE A LITTLE WEIGHT.Weaknesses: A HASSLE TO INSTALL ON MY SID ,RIGHT SIDE WIPER STRECTHED OUT AND IM ONLY A WEEKEND RIDER WHO HAVE USED THESE WIPERS FOR 6 MONTHS.THE PRICE!!Bottom Line: LOOK COOL AT FIRST AND DO SCRAPE OF DIRT NICELY BUT THEY STRECTH OUT OVER TIME WHICH IF YOUR NOT ON TOP OF MAINTENANCE CAN DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD ESPECIALLY IF YOUR USING A ROCKSHOX.SAVE YOUR MONEY AND KEEP THE BOOTS !!!!!!
Favorite Trail: RINGWOOD STATEPARK N.J.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Similar Products Used: NONE
Bike Setup: FSR PRO
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Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from PortlandDate Reviewed: July 2, 2000
Strengths: Keeps crap out when newWeaknesses: Stretch out in sunBottom Line: Very marginal performers! They stretch out in the sun and than hold dirt against your seals. However, when new they do help keep crap away from your seals. Very marginal products. Rock Shox wipers are better: long lasting.
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Similar Products Used: Rock Shox shower caps
Bike Setup: Curtlo
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David
a Racer
from OregonDate Reviewed: June 24, 2000
Strengths: -Allows you to check travel
-Does a better job of keeping crap out of your fork than the stock bootsWeaknesses: -If the inside of the wiper is not covered in grease, it affects the stroke of the fork greatly.Bottom Line: I got my moneys worth. Have not ran into any problems other than not keeping it greased 100% of the time. Do so, and you will not regret upraging those heavy, ugly boots.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Similar Products Used: None
Bike Setup: '98 Manitou SX Ti w/Lok-Out
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Will
a
from CODate Reviewed: May 9, 2000
Strengths: Keeps dirt out of my x-vert fork just fine.Weaknesses: None yet.Bottom Line: That reviewer "San" way down below had a great idea with putting foam wipers on underneath these. I was amazed how smooth some hand-made foam donuts made my fork--especially after I soaked them in 7.5 wt shock oil before tucking them under the wipers. This isn't a bad product for Manitous I found (somewhat to my amazement) that the grease under the seals was prefectly clean after 5 20-30 mile off road rides. They seem to let grease (Prep M at least)come out of the fork but they scrape the dirty mess right off. I've had a lot less grease migration since I put the foam in though. As for the price, you have to realize that these are really high precision moldings, they are perfectly round and the tolerances at the scraper edge are very high. $17 is not that much to pay for something that is obviously pure vanity--not that it is bad to love the way a bike looks!
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Bike Setup: Custom steel hardtail with 100mm Manitou fork.
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SOCKBOY
a Weekend Warrior
from tnDate Reviewed: March 3, 2000
Bottom Line: Simple...these things are great for manitous...for Judys they SUCK!!! I use mountain seals on my judy...the review is for my manitou SX.
Favorite Trail: yip yo
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Bike Setup: Simple...these things are great for manitous...for Judys they SUCK!!!
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James
a Racer
from Calgary, AlbertaDate Reviewed: September 6, 1999
Strengths:
Great looks
Works better that boots
Lets you clean dirt away easierWeaknesses:
none so farBottom Line: When I first saw these wipers on one of my teamates bikes, I was skeptical at first because it looked like there was nothing that was protecting the seals. Upon closer inspection I noticed that there was a hard plastic scraper type thing was angled at 45 degrees that scraped mud, water and dust away. After lifting up the fork boots on my bomber, I noticed that the boots simply trapped the dust inside of them. I thought I would give the wipers a try and it has been one of the best upgrades I have made. The trick with these is to do what Lee tells you to do and put some oil, I used White Lightning, under the wipers until it overflows. The looks are awsome and performance is spectacular. After a good two months of use I thought I should inspect them to see if they were working and they were. There was not one spec of dirt or any water under the wiper, the seals were in perfect condition. After reading other reviews it seems as though the ones made for Rock Shox aren't as good but I definetly recommend the ones made for the Z2 Atom Bomb.
Favorite Trail:
Moose mountain
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bike Setup:
Zaskar LE with Atom Bomb Z2
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Lee Norton
a Racer
from St. Catharines, OntarioDate Reviewed: July 19, 1999
Bottom Line: FORK WIPER PLUSES:- Allow for faster movement of your fork as boots tend to trap air slowing the fork action over stutter bumps.- Save a few grams in weight.- Look better than accordian boots.- Easier to clean and maintain on a regular basis to keep dirt out of the fork internals.- Easier to clean the outside of your fork.FORK WIPER MINUSES:- Although dirt will get under a boot (and you should lift and clean underneath) with a fork wiper the dirt hits your fork directly. Some dirt will get under the wiper, whatever brand you choose. Eventually, if you don't clean, this dirt will work under your fork seals. If you still don't clean you will be buying a new fork and maybe writing another negative report on fork wipers.CLEANING:I suggest the following cleaning method which doesn't take a lot of time, and if you clean this area as often as you clean/oil your chain, you should have no problems. (Assuming you clean/oil your chain.)Lift up your wiper and wipe inside clean with a rag.
Place lots of your favorite grease over your stock seals.
Push back your wipers. The grease, if placed sufficiently, should squeeze out between your fork and wiper, completely filling the void.
Wipe excess grease off.
Pump the fork up and down.
Wipe excess grease off.
Go riding.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
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Chris
a Racer
from Granby, MADate Reviewed: June 21, 1999
Bottom Line: This product will wear out over time and eventually let grit, dirt and waterby the seals.
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
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Josh Radlein
a Weekend Warrior
from Colo SpringsDate Reviewed: April 29, 1999
Strengths:
small
effective
tight fit
tight sealWeaknesses:
none yetBottom Line: These little black circles perfom much better than boots. I just recently found myself caught in a medium rain followed by mist and not a drop of water found its way into my sliders. Not to mention, my tires ended up hugging too much mud which then built up on the brake arch. Once again, no mud in the sliders. As mentioned below, you must grease up the lip inside the wipers beforehand-it definitely boosts performance.Five steaming livers...mmm, liver...
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Similar Products Used:
stock boots
Bike Setup:
97 SX-Ti
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Jamie
a Cross-Country Rider
from BostonDate Reviewed: April 19, 1999
Strengths:
Work better than boots, look good too.Weaknesses:
Forks should come with them!Bottom Line: Contrary to other reviews my ste have worked perfectly for over two years. They actually work - boots don't. Boots can trap nasty moisture on your stanchions which is not good. A critical factor to using these wipers is to slop a sh*tload of lube under them and in their lip. The sork also seems to have less stiction probably because of the lube resevoir and less material rubbing...
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Similar Products Used:
Uhh, boots I guess.
Bike Setup:
On my RS Judy SL '96.
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Y-US rider
a Weekend Warrior
from Oakville, ON CanadaDate Reviewed: March 23, 1999
Strengths:
Ease of installationWeaknesses:
flex a bit when the weather gets hot.Bottom Line: The product is the best I have used and spent on. It provided the sealing capability much better than the accordion. I have ridden my bike in a wet and muddy condition, I have even sprayed the fork with the carwash hose in the self serve area. I had this wiper on my fork from the last 2 years and I normally clean my fork every Winter. The last time I disassembled the fork was this Winter and I found that the inside have no contaminations. One suggestion, before every ride I will wipe the lip area with Judy butter. This seems to help in eliminating water, dust or mud from getting into the fork. Overall this wiper works and I am glad I spent the $30.00 Cdn dollars that its worth.
Favorite Trail:
Harwood Hills
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Joshua X-0
Judy XC
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Rollingbones
a weekend warrior
from Fair Oaks, CADate Reviewed: March 9, 1999
Bottom Line:
This product has to viewed with the perspective of why they're on your bike. I do not like black, ugly, heavy accordian-look-alike boots. I put these on my Judy. In dry weather they do a respectable job in keeping out most of the dirt. You have to clean and grease the sliders more often as the judy butter or slick honey will gradually work its way out. They do a so-so job keeping out water. For those anticipated rides, I simply velcro on a pair of lizard skin boots. The two working together seem to work and the skins can easily be removed after a ride in the rain. If your regular boots seat well, they'll probably protect a little bit better. If you want a really cool looking fork, I'd take these way before the Mountain Speed wipers (both in looks and function, but that's another review!!). For what I want them to do, I rate them at four chilies.
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