Submitted by
Berkley
a Cross Country Rider
from Upstate, NY, USA Date Reviewed: August 8, 2009
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
I had an RP23 that was valved with the high compression tune and it didnt suit my bike very well. Consequently I ran too much sag to make it soft like I wanted. Sent it to Push and asked them to make it more small bump compliant and make it ride higher in it's travel. Now it's much plusher but pedals better. It climbs over rocks and logs much easier. Free upgraded shipping promotion = thumbs up.
Weaknesses:
Poor communication. Purchased the service, never received an order number like I was supposed to. Even after sending my shock out, I didn't receive anything saying it had been received, or notification as to when it would be worked on/sent back out. Calling them seemed to solve the problem, but the lack of communication up until that point was lacking.
Similar Products Used:
OEM Fox Triad, non-tuned RP23
Bike Setup:
2005 Specialized Stumpjumper
2009 Fox Float
2008 RP23
Bottom Line:
If you're serious about your riding and know your way around your bike, this is the way to go. In terms of value it's highly subjective, but if you're the kind of rider sending your shock to Push then it's worth it.
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Submitted by
Flatsix
a Cross Country Rider
from Upland,CA,USA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2009
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$180.00
Strengths:
Reputation
Weaknesses:
Communication
Bottom Line:
I just wanted to post a heads up for anyone considering PUSH. The reputation for product quality is widely known, the rumors for less than desired communication are true.
I wanted to rebuild my Fox shock, I talked to the local shop and they could only replace seals, I went online to PUSH and saw that they could revalve and rework the shock to my weight and riding style. I noticed months ago that they were scheduling 2-3 weeks out so I figured that I'd do the rebuild during the rain season. I checked back again last Monday and the schedule had changed to "immediate" and they offered Fed Ex upgraded shipping so I bit, figuring that the shock would arrive at PUSH by Thursday be completed early the next week and back to me by Thurday/Friday this week in time for my vacation. I filled out the online form, got a receipt and sent the shock to PUSH. The shock left on Monday and arrived on Thursday the 23rd. The next day I received the sales order and the scheduled date changed to 7/28. I contacted them and inquired about the changed date and they stated that it had changed because of workload but the shock would be completed with 72 hrs of the 7/28 date. It's Friday 7/31 and I don't have a Fed Ex confirmation or a completed notification from PUSH. I should have seen something yesterday afternoon.
I'm kind of disapointed for trusting that PUSH would do the work on time and that I'm now without a bike when I needed it. I'm also disapointed that PUSH doesn't communicate better. It's not the end of the world, I'll be without my bike for another week but I'll get over it.
Just keep this in mind when you send in your shock. You may have to wait longer than expected for the completion of the work. I wouldn't send in the shock if you need it anytime soon.
I'll post again when the shock comes in and give my 2 cents on the quality of the work done. I'm expecting that the quality of the rework wil make me forget about the less than desirable communication.
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Submitted by
SCUBAPRO
a Weekend Warrior
from Laguna Beach Date Reviewed: July 29, 2009
Favorite Trail:
"Aliso-woods"
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
Push
Bottom Line:
Excellent upgrade!!! Shock performance is drastically improved by the Push Upgrade. Everything from small bump compliance to high speed control is just better with the upgrade. Tires feel glued to the ground. You can now pin it on the nastiest sections and feel totally in control. Excellent product and great customer service. I highly recommend this product.
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Submitted by
dontheclysdale
a Weekend Warrior
from Houston, TX Date Reviewed: May 3, 2009
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$125.00
Purchased At:
Push
Bike Setup:
07 Turner Sultan
Bottom Line:
Bought a Sultan used. The bike's RP23 was pushed for a 210lb rider. I am 250lbs. After messing with the air pressure the suspension was pretty good. Decided to send the shock off to Push and have it "pushed" to my weight.
Got the shock back and it was day and night difference. It absorbs low speed bumps with no problem now. The rear suspension feels a little cushy but doesn't bottom out. I'm not bobbing around when pedaling either. The Pushed RP23 makes for a VERY nice ride.
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Submitted by
MultiRider
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado Date Reviewed: April 7, 2009
Favorite Trail:
rocks
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$270.00
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
Staff has a lot of experience and very definite opinions on what needs to be done
Quick turnaround
Weaknesses:
Staff has a lot of experience and very definite opinions on what needs to be done which means they will probably do whatever they usually do instead of what you ask them to do
Similar Products Used:
Standard Fox suspension components
Bike Setup:
Yeti 575
Bottom Line:
I sent my shock and fork in, talked to them on the phone, told them that I ride a lot of technical content for fun and race in local cross-country and endurance events. I wanted the smoothness their services are known for but wanted both the shock and fork valved stiffer for racing purposes. In particular, I really wanted the ProPedal on the shock and lockout on the fork to be pretty close to hardtail/rigid for racing purposes.
The person I talked to kept saying "Yep, yeah, got it, we know exactly what you need". Because I had read some reviews here that indicated PUSH errs on the side of softer, I specifically told them I wanted them to err on the side of stiffer because I would be racing the bike and I wanted good pedaling efficiency and bottoming resistance. "Yep, yeah, got it, we know exactly what you need".
Sent fork and shock in, very rapid return, very pleased to have it back in a week. Bolted back on, liked the results. Mostly. Except the ProPedal and the fork lockout didn't seem to make much difference. And it was a little soft overall. But I really wanted to like it and I really wanted to not have to send it back for a revalve. So I kept making adjustments to try to get it to perform like I wanted it to perform -- I increased the air pressure and turned the clickers in various ways and combinations. Unfortunately, I played with the settings long past the PUSH 30-day-revalve guarantee. When I finally decided it was not what I wanted and called PUSH, the customer service guy said "you've had it too long, you have to pay us to do it again, that will be $270".
I called and talked to Darren, the president, told him my story, told him I had won races in the Sport class, moving to Expert, perhaps he could give me a deal on a revalve. He looked up my information and said "Oh, we did the trail bike valving because it is a 575 -- that's more of a trail bike than a race bike, so we did the trail bike valving. We could set it up for racing if you'd like." I said that is what I asked for originally, would like that now, and asked him to either do it for free or at a discount -- both because they didn't do it correctly in the first place and also as kind of a sponsorship deal.
Darren said he would consider it and get back to me. That was before Christmas. I did not hear back, so I emailed and then called again at the end of January. Darren said "very busy, haven't caught up from vacation and holidays, saw your emails, will get back to you." I've called and emailed multiple times since. Darren acknowledged getting my subsequent emails. He said he hadn't had time to look at them but would get back to me. But he never did. January turned into February which turned into March -- I emailed and vmailed and even talked to him briefly a few times. He has never returned a single email or vmail in spite of the fact that he promised he would. I even left a vmail saying something like "I know you're busy, you're running a multi-million dollar company, I'm just asking for a little help on a $270 service, please make a decision and let me know." No response whatsoever, either from Darren or anyone at PUSH.
So PUSH did not valve according to my requirements, my suspension is not what I wanted, the ProPedal circuit is worthless, the fork lockout is worthless, the overall suspension is too soft, and they won't do anything about it. And they won't even call or email me back. Very disappointing. Very, VERY disapointing.
They seem to have forgotten the "custom" part of "customize" -- listening to the customer. I guess if you like what they do for everyone else, then you'll like what they do for you. If you want them to actually listen and adjust your suspension for your requirments, you may be very disappointed. I certainly am.
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Submitted by
stumblemumble
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Cruz Date Reviewed: March 21, 2009
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Great service and communications, great product, revive and upgrade your old blown shock
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
Vanilla RC
Bottom Line:
Vanilla RC blew oil everywhere mid-ride, never had been serviced. Sent it to Push, they called and said they would be replacing the shock housing as well as it was bent (no charge) Recieved shock w/ noticeable improvement from stock. Very happy.
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Submitted by
mrobson71
a Downhiller
from Bothell, WA, USA Date Reviewed: March 16, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Slayer
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
Spot on shock performance. Rear wheel sticks to the ground like glue.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Stock DHX 5.0
Progressive 5th element
Romic Double Barrel
Marzocchi Air TST R
Bike Setup:
2008 Santa Cruz V10
2009 Fox DHX 5.0 with ti coil spring
2008 Boxxer WC
Bottom Line:
Purchased the V10 frame this winter and immediately sent the shock (2009 DHX 5.0) to push for a rebuild and race tune. Shock was back in a week and the set up is perfect for me. No time needed to set up the shock as it was dialed in with push rebuild and suggested settings. I would recommend Push to anyone who wants to go faster!
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Submitted by
jason bromfield
a Weekend Warrior
from West Sacramento, CA USA Date Reviewed: February 6, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Rockville
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
I needed my older Fox Float RC with lockout rebuilt, and decided to have Push overhaul it to see what they could do with this older, tired shock. I could'nt believe how awesome the ride felt once I bolted it back on. The permanently remove the factory lockout feature and I don't miss it. It almost seems like the lockout feature is alive and well when riding on a smoother surface since there is almost NO pedal bobbing! Still very plush on rougher terrain. It also looks like a brand new shock with the 2009 Float R stickers they applied.
Weaknesses:
None with the product. The customer service left a little to be desired initially. After a couple of calls to them to try to get my service order e-mailed to me, I finally just sent the shock with the details hand written on a piece of paper. Once they started work on my shock I got a call from the service tech and all my worries were squashed. Very informative!
Similar Products Used:
Stock Fox Float, Vanilla R
Bike Setup:
Stock Jamis Dakar with pushed Float R
Bottom Line:
I very highly recommend this service to anyone with a Fox shock once time to have it serviced rolls around. My 9 year old shock feels smoother that a new stock Float fresh from Fox.
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Submitted by
Jim Jackson
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Rosa CA Date Reviewed: January 9, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Everyone that I ride!
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$172.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
Tell these guy's what you want your shock to do and they nail it!It works just great right out of the box!
Just had to ajust air psi.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
I have a Brain on a Stumpy and the Push rebuild works better!
I pretty sure it is smarter!
Bike Setup:
This Push shock is on my race bike a Trek Fuel 98 with XO and XTR and a SID 100.
Bottom Line:
I was going to replace my race bike untill I chose to try a Push rebuild. If you are needing a rebuild send it to these guy's you will be very happy you did!
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Submitted by
TekBolt
a Racer
from Appleton, WI Date Reviewed: December 5, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Suamico Reforestation Camp
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
pushindustries.com
Strengths:
Improved action, better pedaling efficiency.
Weaknesses:
None
Bike Setup:
Trek Fuel 98 tuned with TekBolt.com titanium.
Bottom Line:
The guys at Push are great! I told them that I wanted my shock (an '02 Fox Float R without lockout or Propedal) set up for maximum race efficiency. When I got it back it seemed a bit harsh at first, but there was definitely much less pedal bob. I ended up backing the pressure way down from my normal setting of about 140 psi to 90 psi. It's now absorbs bumps better than ever while still preserving most the new anti-bob effect. Overall I'm extremely happy with what they were able to do with my old-technology shock.
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Submitted by
belljr13
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View, CA, USA Date Reviewed: September 3, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$250.00
Strengths:
custom tuned to my weight. I have travel again. I never used the lockout so good riddance. Much better propedal.
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
2004 Enduro Expert
Bottom Line:
Great small bump response and no more bottoming out....best of both worlds. I highly recommend this service.
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Submitted by
Jesse Hill
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose Date Reviewed: June 9, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Northstar
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
Small bump sensitivity, high speed rebound
Weaknesses:
Other shocks can be Pushed better for small bump sensitivity but otherwise none.
Similar Products Used:
stock DHX, 5th coil
Bike Setup:
early 07 Heckler, 07 AM SL1, King everything, E13 DRS, XT/X9
Bottom Line:
sent it off (overnight there and overnight back) after doing weekend trip after weekend trips to northstar and could never quite get the high speed rebound in range it always wanted to buck after a G out or lip or related but I did think the compression was ok. Then when I got it back the rebound was so much better you didnt leave a lip or hit a g out wondering if your rear tire was going to go over your head and at the same time it never packed up over stutter sections. I also found there was a lot of room for improvement in the compression too as now my small bump sensitivity is much better and just better traction overall.
to the guy below I would say talk to them and they will probably revalve it and you too will love it.
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Submitted by
Charles
a Cross Country Rider
from Pasadena,Ca Date Reviewed: June 1, 2008
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
Push
Bottom Line:
I was excited to get this upgrade for my fox rear shock installed in a 2004 Specialized Enduro Pro. It's been a disappointment. I really wish Push did not remove the rear shock lock out as it bob's like hell. I really hate riding this bike now, as push has ruined the ride quality.
It's really sad, when they call they have no record of servicing your shock. I was even promised an official decal for my type of rear shock, not just the sticker. It came back looking like stock with out the lock out. But many months later, it still isn't here.
What a waste of money.
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Submitted by
Si Blackwood
a Weekend Warrior
from Edinburgh, Scotland Date Reviewed: February 18, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Anything techie and muddy :-D
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$380.00
Purchased At:
TFTuned Shox
Strengths:
Plush, Fantastic pedal platform - VERY little pedal bob (bike is faster up and downhill), no loss of small bump sensitivity, custom tuned to my weight/bike/riding style, shock works BETTER than when new - END OF!
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Standard DHX5.0, Vanilla R, Vanilla RC Rockshox Deluxe-(VERY BAD), Manitou Swinger 4-way, 5th element - Nothing compares
Bike Setup:
Ellsworth Joker 04, Fox (now PUSH) Vanilla RC with race system, Drop off 3 forks :-/, Mavic Deetraks wheelset, xt/lx groupset, Avid code brakes...
Bottom Line:
the vanilla RC was not a bad shock to begin with but it has to be said i wanted to upgrade as it was a bit stiff and the compression knob basically just locked the shock up rather than properly adjust it, anyhoo - long story short, i had the compression "locked out" and forgot 2 turn it back down when i went off a 4ft 2 flat drop, basically it blew an o-ring, leaked its guts out and i had an Ellsworth pogo-stick - £195 and 5 days later, i had a new shock - the PUSH race systems vanilla RC- what a world of difference, the guys at TFTuned shox took my vanilla away, took out all the fox internals and fitted the race system tuned to my weight/style and the bikes leverage ratios, i got it back and it is a completely different machine, it eats up anything i throw at it (certainly shows up the drop off 3's for the budget mince they are) basically a new shock as good as a DHX (minus bottom resistance) and matches my style to a tee, the race system changes the blue compression adjustment from overall compression to low speed compression (pedal platform/propedal) which is a hell of a lot better! Turnaround was less than a week!! Heavy duty mount kit/bushings and spring supplied in the price, old fox internals and burst o-ring returned for my inspection (everything that came out)
BOTTOM LINE Old Shock/Old tech to New Shock/New tech, Race ready in less than a week for less £$ than a new shock, which WONT need any spring replacement/adjustment as its tuned to ME :-D = HAPPY Si Do it you absolutely will NOT regret it!
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Submitted by
Old Not Dead
a Weekend Warrior
from Johnson City TN USA Date Reviewed: February 8, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Dupont State Forest
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
Customer Service
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Stock shock, FloatR
Bike Setup:
Giant Reign, Fox Float 140RLC Pushed, RP3 Pushed
Bottom Line:
I had the fork done at the same time. The shock does work better than before. The platform is more pronounced, and it doesn't spend as much time settled into the mid stroke so the bike behaves differently. I'm still sorting out how much is perception and how much is real. The fork was obviously an improvement, the shock not so black and white. It is better but not as perceptible an improvement as the fork. The customer service is without equal. I'm a DIYer and have dealt with customer service with boats,cars, motorcycles, home products you name it, and I have never had a better experience than with Matt and Christine at Push.
If your shock needs servicing anyway, then do it you can't do any better.
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Submitted by
Brett
a Cross Country Rider
from Phoenix Date Reviewed: December 4, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Too Many To Count
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Better ride than the factory RP23 and PUSH Customer Service is excellent.
Weaknesses:
None So Far.
Similar Products Used:
First Factory Tuned Shock.
Bike Setup:
2007 Small Flux PUSHd, 2008 Talas RLC, XTR Crankset, XTR Pedals, XTR Shifters, XTR Chain, XTR Cassette, Formula K24 with Carbon Lever and Kevlar Hose 180mm, Formula K24 with Carbon Lever and Kevlar Hose 160mm, King Headset, Race Face Deus 100mm Stem, Race Face Deus Seatpost, Easton MonkeyLite MX Carbon Low Riser cut to 24.5", Specialized Avatar Saddle, Hope Seatpost Clamp, Hope Skewers (Gravy Wheels) Hadley 108 Pt Hubs, XM819 Disc Rims, Maxxis Ignitor 2.35 UST, Maxxis Larsen 2.0 UST, Stans
Bottom Line:
Ran into an issue with my shock, quick phone call and it was on the way back the same day. They turned the repair around as soon as it arrived. Problem came back... they sent me a new PUSHd 2008 RP23 in exchange for mine. Turns out the issue was most likely a Fox issue.
Awesome product and customer service.
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Submitted by
don
a Weekend Warrior
from cuyahoga falls, oh usa Date Reviewed: September 26, 2007
Favorite Trail:
west branch state park, or Sow Shoe Resort
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$177.00
Purchased At:
push
Strengths:
I liked the bike but it pedaled about as well as a bowl of mashed potatos. partly because of a stuck down shock, but even after that was fixed it still soaked up the power. I called Push, answered some questions, told them I wasn't happy with the mushy pedalling, got the shock back and what a difference. Imediately it was like half the effort at the cranks and the bike is twice as fast. They increased the platform, but it's not harsh, I don't know how they do it, I ride along railroad tracks with those golf ball sized rocks and don't feel them, and it doesn't blow thru it's travel off two to four footers like it did , even with lower air pressure than I used to run, amazing.
Weaknesses:
absolutely none.
Similar Products Used:
stock fox float R
Bike Setup:
2005 enduro (classic 5 inch version) TALAS fork, Push float R, 8 speed setup, nevegal 1.95 dtc (awesome tires), etc.
Bottom Line:
Don't just wait till your shock needs rebuilt, this is a performance upgrade that you will be glad you did every time you ride.
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Submitted by
Nick
a Cross Country Rider
from Highlands Ranch, CO, USA Date Reviewed: September 21, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Push Industries
Strengths:
Very plush and efficient, they can set up the shock EXACTLY how you want it.
Weaknesses:
None.
Bike Setup:
04 Stumpjumper
Bottom Line:
The best customer service I've experienced anywhere. I had a small issue with the shock after I had it rebuilt so I sent it back to Push. They fixed it and shipped it back in the same day they received it, no questions asked. I will definately be using them for all of my future shock needs and would recommend them to anyone. It's hard to find this kind of service anywhere these days. Plus, the factory tuning they do is awesome!
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Submitted by
sean
a
from Falls Church, VA, USA Date Reviewed: August 30, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Push Industries
Strengths:
Plushness is unreal. Much better than even new. Perfect match my weight, bike, and style.
Weaknesses:
not free
Similar Products Used:
stock DHX 5.0
Bike Setup:
Ellsworth Moment DHX 5.0 Coil and Rockshox Lyrik
Bottom Line:
WOW WOW WOW. This thing transformed my bike. The custom tuning perfectly matches my riding and weight. I told them rocky and rooty East Coast riding and they delivered. Bike goes through the travel with butter smoothness.
I never before understood what people described as spikiness in suspensions. After getting the DHX 5.0 coil back from Push now I REALLY understand. The transitions from compression to rebound and back are absolutely smooth. Even entering travel is smooth. I can distinctly remember how it rode before and it was spiky before. Not now. The rear end of my bike is glued to the trail now.
The recommended settings they provided for compression and rebound were pretty much spot on. I did add one more click of positive rebound, but that was due to taste. I might speed it back up on some other local trails when I get back to them.
My shock was 2 years old and was getting a bit of stiction so I decided to do the rebuild. This was not just a rebuild. This was like buying a whole new frame. It rides THAT much better now.
I can't wait until they start to work on Rockshox Lyriks.
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Submitted by
Larsupial
a Cross Country Rider
from Atlanta Date Reviewed: August 28, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Monarch Trail - Colorado
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Push Industries
Strengths:
WOW - Transformed an already great bike into a stellar bike! How do they do it?
Weaknesses:
Maybe Price, but I gotta say, it was totally worth every penny!
Similar Products Used:
Stock Fox & Rock Shox Stuff
Bike Setup:
2006 Turner 5 Spot, Full XTR, Kovachi Wheels, Fox DHX 5.0 Coil & Fox Talas 130, Magura Marta's, WTB Prowler XT 2.3
Bottom Line:
I purchased my 5 Spot last summer and honestly did not ride it very much. Spent most of my time on the road bike. This past summer after my annual mtn bike trip to Colorado, I found that my stock DHX Air 5.0 was completely blown. Had to send it back to Fox for warranty rebuild. Down time was to be over 6 weeks which I found to be unacceptable. I contacted Turner and asked them what they would recommend in lieu of the DHX Air 5.0 and it was suggested to me that I contact PUSH Industries. I contacted Push and they recommended either the Fox RP23 or the DXH Coil 5.0 for the 5 spot and told me the Coil was bit heavier but was a great shock. I went that route and had a new DHX Coil 5.0 ordered from Fox which then went directly to PUSH for their service upgrade and rebuild. During that time period, I also removed my Talas 130 and sent it to PUSH for upgrade and rebuild. 4 weeks later I received both shocks back and installed them on my Spot.
All I can say is WOW! What a difference! The bike is completely different and performs exceptionally well! As for the Fox Coil that was "Pushed" it has zero pedal bob and yet is super supple to the trail during climbing. On the downhill, at speed the suspension comes alive and really provides increased control and plushness. I never thought that my $800 investment would have a return so noticable. And, my Talas 130 is much more plush and stable then it was when brand new.
These guys at PUSH know their Shiznizzle! If your looking for a rebuild or better ride from your bike, gives these guys a ring and see if they can upgrade your shock. They don't work on everything (Like the DHX AIR) so give them a call or check out their web page.
On another note, I weigh in at around 195lbs and have found the DXH coil to be the way to go. PUSH also recommend the RP23 but said that due to my weight the coil was a better choice. I would have to agree! Yeah, you save a little weight witht he RP23 but the Coil is much more robust for a 5" Travel All Mtn bike.
The DHX AIR 5.0 that came on my bike did not impress me and actually failed after only 1 year of LIGHT riding. That should not happen! I have yet to see if Fox will stand behind it in regards to warranty. I contacted FOX last week and have yet to hear back from them! Typical! From what I can tell, the DXH Coil is light years ahead of the DHX AIR with only a slight weight penalty.
From here on out, my shocks will go back to PUSH yearly for service! And in regards to service, their response was second to none! I highly recommend PUSH Industries. My $800.00 price tag was only because I purchased a new rear shock as well. Prices are much lower if all you are doing is a rebuild/upgrade.
To the Guys at Push, thanks for providing great service as well as a great product. That is unusual in today's market place!
PUSH IT BABY!!!!!!
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Submitted by
kbw
a Cross Country Rider
from sj,ca Date Reviewed: August 23, 2007
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$275.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
completely different bike
Weaknesses:
waiting to find some
Bike Setup:
99 stumpy fsr xc comp, x-link, bombers, lots of goodies
Bottom Line:
I had rebuilt the seals on original float r, played with oil but was never happy with the feel (no adjustability in that model). Called Push and talked with them a bit. For a bit more $$ I decided that I would go with a rp3 that was push valved to my big butt. After decades on hardtails the stumpy was my first full sprung. While I liked the plushness, I was not getting comfortable with the spongy feeling when pedaling. My god what a difference the Push shock made. Climbing, descending, small bumps all over it was like a completely different bike. The customer service was absolutely some of the best I have ever received. I was not up sold to a new shock, it felt more like a discussion with a friend who said for your riding style and, um, physics this is something you should consider that will make a big difference. Best money I have invested in a long time!!!! Did I mention VERY good customer service?
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Submitted by
Jon
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Cruz, Ca. Date Reviewed: August 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
220
Strengths:
super plush, platform pedal works great, outstanding customer service.
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
C-dale gemini 1000 w/ Vanilla RC
Bottom Line:
First thought was: holy cow pie! VERY plush, then I got up and hammered away on the pedals and I was in disbelief at the acceleration with the new platform pedal. ZERO pedal bob seated or standing. I notice no important loss in small bump compliance, any bump that you would feel, it responds to. At the advice of push I got the new bottom out bumper, it definitely feels bottomless. And it rails turns like a hardtail (I think due to the platform). So my 2002 vanilla RC was 6 years old, well used and abused, never rebuilt and it blew out mid ride. Sent it to push and got back a new and greatly better performing shock, custom tuned to my weight, riding and bike's swingarm leverage ratio. Beautiful.
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Submitted by
Pancho Villa
a
from Mtz, CA USA Date Reviewed: May 5, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
online
Strengths:
OUTSTANDING customer service! Rejuvinates old tired equipment, true custom tuning.
Weaknesses:
Nada
Similar Products Used:
Fox factory rebuilds
Bottom Line:
I've got a GT Ruckus i-drive w/ a Fox RC. I had it paired w/ a RockShox Pike up front, and had been pretty happy balance-wise. Then I upgraded to a Lyrik coil a few months back, and suddenly the rear of the bike just felt weak; if I cranked up enough rebound to keep it from kicking back, it'd get rough and pack up. If I dialed in enough compression to keep it from wallowing, it felt harsh and spikey - there was no happy middle ground to make it match the front of the bike. I'd been looking at maybe picking up a DHX or Double Barrel, but the frame's getting old anyway and I was having a tough time justifying the upgrade.
About a week before I was supposed to leave for the Fruita Fat Tire Festival, I decided something had to be done (great timing). I had done some factory rebuilds through Fox in the past, so I figured I'd look into sending my shock in for some service. First issue, can't touch it for 3 weeks (to be fair, it was the week after Sea Otter). Second, although I knew from past experience that the shock would feel better (no more sucking/cavitating noise, new bushings, etc), I'd still be left w/ a stock Vanilla RC in a best case. I contacted PUSH to see if the turnaround was even feasable, and what they might be able to do for me. I spoke w/ Jimmy in Sales. He got asked all the right questions, including weight, riding style, and bike. I told him I wasn't really looking for any 'platform' type stuff, just some plush tuning. He set me up w/ the 'factory tuning package', and told me that their expedited service would get it back to me in time. A bit skeptical, I packed up the shock and overnighted it. I was notified immediately (by Christina - thank you!) when it arrived the next day, and to my bewilderment, was emailed again the following morning and told that the shock was on its way back!
I bolted it up and gave it the driveway test w/ the PUSH settings intact - whoa. Just like everyone says, it felt like an extra inch of travel right away. Then it was off to the local climb/descent for a quick shakedown, and sure enough, night and day difference. Suddenly the bike feels balanced again, like the front and rear are back to the same technology level. Super plush without feeling bouncy or mushy, and at the same time it just seems to devour big hits.
Four hard days of Moab, Fruita, and Grand Junction's finest trails later, and I couldn't be happier. It handles big square edge hits and drops w/ out harsh bottoming or feeling overworked, still feels super smooth over ripples and small chop, and doesn't bob or bounce at all while climbing. And this is an old RC - I can imagine what they must be able to do w/ a DHX.
If you're looking to upgade shocks, give PUSH a call first - well worth the $ IMO.
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Submitted by
P
a Cross Country Rider
from ATL Date Reviewed: April 30, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$168.00
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
full travel of shock used without bottoming out. small bumps dont exist anymore. seems to hook up far better than my un-PUSHED Float R. Bike feels better all around.
Weaknesses:
be nice if the offered a fork and shock combo package but it is still worth the $.
Bike Setup:
07 Xtra Large Saltamontes
Bottom Line:
these guys work magic on these shocks. shock was a 2002 non-propedal Float R before going to PUSH. It was basicly useless to me because it would bob and slip like crazy. Sent it to PUSH because I wanted a back-up and was curious what these guys could do. Upon return, it feels way better than the 07 Float R (with propedal) that came on the frame. Now getting full travel, small bump compliance, big hits are great and it hooks up way better on the climbs, especially when out of the saddle. Will be sending my fork very soon.
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s r
a Cross Country Rider
from Highlands Ranch CO usa Date Reviewed: April 20, 2007
Favorite Trail:
the one less traveled
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$168.00
Purchased At:
direct services from push
Strengths:
Great service and most likely better parts than fox uses. Custom tuning to a person's bike, riding style and weight are the keys. Pretty decent value vs. upgrading to newer models. Customer service was great. Everyone seems to know their stuff and are very helpful with questions/concerns.
Weaknesses:
I hope it lasts! Wait time was a downer...Unfortunately, I sent mine to Push Ind. after a 5-star rating was given to PUSH by Mountain Bike Action. I had to wait 14 business days (almost three full weeks) for completion (but this is the 'pre-season' after all). Hopefully push can hire more techs to get the work done faster while retaining quality measures. Higher priced than Fox for fork work with the same 3 month warranty. I think the upgraded inner parts are probably worth it. I would also like to see a combo discount for those who need both fork and shock maintained or for repeat customers (hey that's an idea!).
Similar Products Used:
Fox Float RL, RP3, RP23
Bike Setup:
Kona King Kikapu XC with full XTR, Talas RLC (90-130mm)
Bottom Line:
I noticed a difference in the first ride and now the word is out...Since the review appeared in Mtn Bike Action, I am sure their workload has increased 10 fold. I hope the quality stays true despite the amount of work they have to do. I also hope Push can offer more new factory tuned products straight up. In my case, I hope the new 'guts' of my shock hold up beyond the three month warranty period. This is a great service for peeps with Float R, RL and other versions who dont want to upgrade just yet. I would recommend Push Industries even with the lengthy turnaround time.
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Submitted by
Martin Carrington
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego CA USA Date Reviewed: April 12, 2007
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Direct
Strengths:
Amazing rebuild of Fox Float RL. Std (non pro-pedal) shock on my Superlight gave bob under normal pedalling. After the rebuild, no percievable bob, plus normal shock performance is FAR improved.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Standard Fox Float
Bike Setup:
Superlight, Marzocci Bomber etc
Bottom Line:
I would recommned this rebuild to anyone with a single pivot frame and an older gereration shock.
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Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from cupertino, ca USA Date Reviewed: February 1, 2007
Favorite Trail:
any singletrack
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Strengths:
Bought a Fox RP3 on the Push website for 250 on sale.After using this shock on my Titus switchblade I'm selling my Specialized Epic.Feels bottomless handles everything better than the oem float rl climbs great in stiffest position while still remaining active and is still very firm in lall positions, much better than the 04 Epic brainless shock.
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
fox r fox rl brainshock cane creek cloud 9
Bike Setup:
Titus switchblade still best all around model shame they replaced them talus rlc fork race face cranks xtr ders. mavic rims
Bottom Line:
next time you service your fork or shock send it to Push. I'm at the upper weight limit for an air shock and Ive toasted several rl's have push take off the lockout and put in their platform rebuild
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Submitted by
Michael Fogelquist
a Cross Country Rider
from Mesa, AZ, US Date Reviewed: January 17, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Hawes Loop
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
Push Industries
Strengths:
Excellent (and noticeable the first ride) upgrade and their customer service is excellent. The person who answers the phone (Christina I think) knows her stuff. Answered all my dumb questions and never judged or got annoyed. Even gave advice.
Weaknesses:
None. Everything got better after the upgrade. Expensive, but worth every penny. I would have paid double.
Similar Products Used:
Non Push'd Fox RP3, Fox RL
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Blur XC, SRAM XO/XTR, Chris King/819 wheels
Bottom Line:
Best upgrades I've done, ever! My shock needed a rebuild so I thought I would go through PUSH and do their upgrade. Figured I wouldn't be able to tell the difference but I'd get some cool stickers. Totally wrong. Right away on the first ride I could feel there was more rear tire contact with the ground. Cornering without any side slip was so nice. Then I got to the bigger hits. It was like the rear wheel was being gently set back on the ground after the drop. Smooth and uniform response to impacts. Climbing is even better than descending. I'm riding on a worn out Kenda Navagal that I was ready to replace. Used to slip all over on the climbs. Now it hooks up like it's new. I've been completely shocked by how much better across the board the shock performs. I'm faster on every type of terrain I've ridden. My fork is next. My only regret is not doing this upgrade sooner.
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Submitted by
Manny
a Weekend Warrior
from Florida Date Reviewed: December 11, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$110.00
Strengths:
Triad shock blew a seal after being 13 months old. Sent it to push and it cam back in a week. WOW! FOX quote was over month and more $$$. Have used it 3 times so far and it feels better than before.
Great service from Puch industries even calling me back on my cell while they worked on my shock.
Bottom Line:
Strongly recommend using their service.
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George
a Weekend Warrior
from maryland Date Reviewed: November 13, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Strengths:
relatively inexpensive upgrade
Weaknesses:
none, so far
Similar Products Used:
variety of fox shox
Bike Setup:
2001 giant AC 1
Bottom Line:
i bought a used PUSHed vanilla RC and replaced my vanilla RC w/ propedal. on my AC, i'm now able to ride in the 6" rear travel setting and get just as great of platform as with the old vanilla in the 4" travel setting. definitely a worthwhile upgrade.
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Steve Marshall
a Weekend Warrior
from Steamboat Springs Date Reviewed: October 15, 2006
Favorite Trail:
I have not found one I don't like!
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$490.00
Purchased At:
PUSH Industries
Strengths:
Since I frequently buy and sell bikes and components, I have had several Fox Float R's, an RP3, and an RP23 upgraded by PUSH - all customized to my weight, riding style and leverage ratio of the specific bike I am riding - it is all good; especially the customer service
Weaknesses:
In a word - none. In two words - absolutely none.
Similar Products Used:
5th Element - worst piece of garbage I have ever used - I had to buy two to keep my bike running since one was always at Progressive being repaired. I am glad to see that they are moving away from mtb. shocks and focusing where they think their strength is - motorcycle suspension.
Bike Setup:
2005 Turner 5 Spot, XTR and XT mix of components, Mavic 819 rims with XTR disc hubs, Thomson seat post and stem, FSA DH Carbon Riser Bars, 2007 RP23 rear shock - PUSH'ed - PUSH custom rockers, Goodridge braided steel brake lines, Maxxis 2.5 UST High Rollers F&R, Wipperman 909 brass plated chain, Crank Bros. Candy SL pedals.
Bottom Line:
This is absolutely the best thing you can do for your rear shock when you (a) buy a new one, or (b) need it rebuilt.
To me, buying this upgrade from PUSH is a no-brainer; the turnaround time is very quick compared to Fox - 5 days max. for PUSH (less if you live in CO), 2-3 weeks for Fox and what's more, the customer service is absolutely freaking fantastic from PUSH.
Try showing up at the Fox factory in CA and see if you get a tour of the facility from the CEO or if you need something really fast, try and see if Fox will do it while you wait!
Even more than all that, there is no way that Fox is going to build a shock around your weight, riding style,and leverage ratio of your particular bike - they can't but PUSH can/does and they also use their own proprietary parts - like their Vx pistons - that are more durable than the OEM Fox parts.
Sure it is more expensive than stock, but the reliability and the customization of my front and rear suspension makes it worthwhile for me since mountain biking is my only sport.
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Paul
a Cross Country Rider
from Nelson, BC, Canada Date Reviewed: October 8, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$160.00
Strengths:
I was amazed at the difference the rebuild made to the point that I no longer want a new bike. I have a jeckyl, which are known to have a lot of bob, and this eliminated it. I am now climbing the same rough rocky terrain, that used to make me feel sketchy, with half the effort. It is just so much more responsive with a lot less power loss. Prior to the rebuild, it was hard to go slow on steep rocky terrain because when I pedaled, a lot of the power went into the shock. Now I move predictably forward.
Weaknesses:
Would be nice if PUSH sent some literature with the rebuilt shock because it leaves you guessing as to what pressure etc...
Bottom Line:
A fairly inexpensive upgrade that makes your ride 100% better.
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Submitted by
mrpink donttip
a Weekend Warrior
from arcata, ca usa Date Reviewed: September 30, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
push
Strengths:
Does exactly what they said it would do, changed my ride completely. No bob and don't miss the lockout at all
Weaknesses:
pricey? seems to be for something that probably takes them less than an hour - BUT for the slight price increase what it would cost to pay fox to just do a standard rebuild it puts it in perspective
Similar Products Used:
my fox float propedal before it was pushed
Bike Setup:
2004 cannondale jekyll
Bottom Line:
Fast turnaound and good customer service when I emailed questions. Great upgrade, especially for jekyll owners who have more cushion for the push'in. Have been on quite a few rides with it and no leaking or any other problems. Will review again if my opinion changes later but wanted to give push some love while i'm feelin it. One of the best upgrades I've done, if not the best.
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Marc Peot
a Cross Country Rider
from Golden Date Reviewed: August 25, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Buffalo Creek
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
WheatRidge Cyclery
Strengths:
Truly amazing -- actually lived up to it's biling. No-Bob climbing, yet fully active and plush descending
Weaknesses:
PUSH is unable to duplicate a build -- they keep NO RECORDS!
Similar Products Used:
Fox Float R, Fox RP3
Bike Setup:
Titus Racer X
Bottom Line:
Enjoy your 'Pushed' shock or fork -- while it lasts. When it comes time, roll the dice on the rebuild and pray for luck. I rolled 'Snake Eyes' and 'Box Cars' on the next three attempts -- in 2 months. I was very fortunate in that WRC gave me a loaner, every time, so I could keep riding. Keep that in mind -- do you have a backup plan for when it fails?
I was so fed up, I almost drove to Ft.Collins to see if they could get it right with me standing over them..... Or to just throw it through their window. I decided to save the time and gas and aggravation.
They keep NO RECORDS -- can you imagine?
Their attitude was blase, at best.
I did what I wanted to do in the first place -- I bought an RP3 and have been loving it, ever since.
I sincerely hope you have better luck than I. But, you can't say someone didn't warn you........
Happy Trails
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Submitted by
Dennis Romano
a Cross Country Rider
from Las Vegas, NV Date Reviewed: August 22, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Rainbow Rim Trail, AZ
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
PUSH Industries
Strengths:
Changed my bike from a sloppy climber to a snappy efficient climber.
Weaknesses:
None so far.
Similar Products Used:
Stock Fox RL Rear Shock
Bike Setup:
2003 Rocky Mountain Slayer, Marzocchi Z1 Freeride SL, Race Face cranks, bottom bracket,and handlebar, King headset, Thompson stem and seatpost, Sram X9 Twist shifters, cassette, chain and rear deraileur, SUN SUV wheelset and Kenda Nevegals.
Bottom Line:
The Rocky Mountain Slayer is labeled as an All Mountain bike. With that being said, it climbs very well but somewhat slowly. In the rough technical sections the 4.75 inches of rear travel gets you up the hill very well. The problem was when the trail was smooth the suspension still was very active and sucked up most of the riders energy. Standing would result is serious pedal induced bobbing. Since I had the shock "Pushed" it rides differently. I still can climb the technical sections but now I can fly up the smoother sections. When you send in your shock, they ask some questions to help customize the shocks performance for you. In my case, they got it spot on. The remarkable thing to me is that the downhill performance has also drastically been improved. Smooth with no bottoming out. In the past, I ran my shock at 30% SAG for aggressive XC riding but occassionally bottomed out the shock on just 2' drops. Now, the ride is more plush without bottoming out. In my opinion, this is a great upgrade for someone wanting a pro-pedal type feature without the cost of purchasing a new shock. I like this so much, I am sending out my XC race bike for the same modification.
On another note, I had apparently cracked my shock's shaft. PUSH worked with FOX and found me a replacement part and repaired my shock at no additional cost. There was a delay waiting for the parts from Fox but that is to be expected.
I consider my experience with PUSH to be positive. I received great customer service and delivery of a quality product that performs as advertised.
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Michael Schoenly
a Cross Country Rider
from Fort Collins, CO Date Reviewed: June 9, 2006
Favorite Trail:
any technical decent
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
I am fortunate enough to live 5 minutes from Push's facility, so I dropped off my shock on a Monday and they had it ready for me on that Thursday afternoon so I could hit the trails for the weekend. Thanks guys!
After I originally had my shock pushed, I noticed the shock was compressing a lot more than the pre-pushed shock did under pedal strokes, but I decided I’d give it a try for a while with their recommended settings. After 3 weeks I felt I wanted a little higher pro pedal threshold. I called Push to ask about adjustments and talked to Jimmy, he said drop by and I'll have it adjusted in 30 minutes. So I did (it was more like 20 minutes while I waited), now it is EXACTLY what I wanted. A little more pro pedal than Push recommends for my bike/weight, but I can climb without robbing my energy. After the adjustment I noticed NO difference on the downhills. It is awesome!
Great customer service (if you can get them on the phone - they are really busy)
Weaknesses:
it's not free? other than that none
Similar Products Used:
original Float R high volume that came on my bike
Bike Setup:
2004 Stumpjumper FSR, almost 100% upgraded
Bottom Line:
Smooth, smooth, travel, the original Float R was choppy and felt like a hard tail half the time, now I have a REAL rear suspension. I can’t imagine riding my FSR without this upgrade, and I’ve only had it for 3 weeks.
Stock shocks are made for a small range of riders weight/riding style, get yours Pushed so it suits you and your riding style. The "factory tuning" cost is a one time extra cost ($55) so subsequent rebuilds are at the standard rebuild rate (currenly $95). My rebuild was more than most cause my stanction was a goner ($25)
A good suspension design is only as good as the shock allowing it to move.
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Trey Humphreys
a Cross Country Rider
from Fairplay, Colorado Date Reviewed: May 8, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
pushindustries.com
Strengths:
Tuned for me and my riding! Customer service is second to none! Christina is awesome to work with!
Weaknesses:
None so far!
Similar Products Used:
Float ava, Float RP3... Lots of factory Fox products. Blur, Superlight, Racer X, FSR S-Works...
Bike Setup:
Yeti ASR-SL / Fox RP3 "Pushed"
Bottom Line:
I did not think it was possible to improve the ride of the worlds best bike paired with the RP3 shock but Push has done it! This thing is absolutely amazing! It climbs like crazy and lets you drop like a rock! You know something is going on under you because you are not picking lines and the bike is taking full compression hits but it stayes planted on the ground and feels sooooo stable! Get your RP3 Pushed ASAP! You will be happy you did! This is without a doubt the best upgrade I have made in years!!!!!
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Nick Grba
a Weekend Warrior
from Yukon, OK Date Reviewed: May 2, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Corral Pass, WA
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
Push
Strengths:
Very smooth, progressive travel Wide range damping adjustment - from almost locked out to very plush Eliminates bobbing while increasing plushness (an oxymoron?) Great customer service
Weaknesses:
None noticed
Similar Products Used:
Stock Fox Float RL
Bike Setup:
03' C'dale Jekyll
Bottom Line:
Wow! I'm completely impressed with the work Push did on my shock. It transformed my ride completely! The stock Fox Float shock would be either be too soft (bobbing and wasting power) or be overly dampened, feeling harsh. I ended up using the lockout quite a bit on smoother trails. But the Push'ed shock works so well I don't miss the lockout feature at all (they take out the lockout when they install their own internals). The Push'ed Float resists bobbing very well and gives a much smoother, more progressive feel. The dampimg adjuster now allows me to dial in the ride to almost completely locked out (for running errands around town) to mega plush for nasty rock drops. Excellent! If you want to improve the rear suspension on your Jekyll, this is a very worthy modification. (I don't lust after the '06 Prophets anymore - I love how mines rides now!) Instead of buying a new platform shock, spend $150 to transform yours. The Push crew had by shock back to me in 2 weeks, too.
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James
a Weekend Warrior
from currently in S Korea Date Reviewed: April 28, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
PUSH Industries
Strengths:
Tuned for rider style/weight. Turn-around time is pretty quick. Pedal-bob is gone!! Feels much more balanced. Its like I've gone from a Ford Mustang to a BMW M3. They even throw in a bunch of cool stickers:)
Weaknesses:
Relatively speaking there arent any weaknesses that I can think of or find.
Bike Setup:
2002 Cannondale Jekyll 500 Fox Float R fork Avid BB7's PUSH'd Fox Float R shock
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is this: If you need a rebuild or arent satisfied with your current setup, check these guys out! My 02 float was getting a little too floaty for my likings and PUSH has definitely fixed that problem. Some day I'll have a PUSHed fork as well. Best investment thus far. I havent had it long enough to know the longevity of the product but if anything changes I'll post it.
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Submitted by
ferday
a Weekend Warrior
from calgary Date Reviewed: March 28, 2006
Favorite Trail:
TW
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
push
Strengths:
everything they said is true.
Weaknesses:
i lost my lockout, but had never used it anyways, so...
Bike Setup:
04 balfa belair, zokes AM SL, fox float RL
Bottom Line:
10x the control, 10x the plushness, and 10x the pedaling effeciency. it sucks up the smallest of bumps, and never hits bottom on the biggest of hits. pedalling is amazing, very controlled.
we'll see about durability this summer!
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Larry Sett
a Racer
from Trumbull, CT Date Reviewed: February 20, 2006
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
Everything that PUSH says about the upgrade is true...
Weaknesses:
NONE
Bike Setup:
Intense Tracer
Bottom Line:
This upgrade completely transforms your shock into the perfect shock. I did a Fox Float from an Intense Tracer. The shock is super plush, however still absorbs the rocks, roots and occasional drop. I haven’t seen any leakage what so ever. The air pressure stays consistent. The bike climbs much better with this upgrade. The rear wheel just sticks to the ground and doesn’t washout during technical climbs. I believe this is the best cycling upgrade I’ve ever spent money on.
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Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from Norristown, PA Date Reviewed: February 9, 2006
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
Quality of internals used in rebuild. Customization to rider weight, riding style and bike frame/suspension type.
Weaknesses:
None
Bike Setup:
Leader 626S, Marzocchi Marathon S, PUSH'd Vanilla R
Bottom Line:
I purchased the Vanilla R with the express intent of having it PUSH'd and used in a build that I was in the process of buying components for. I had read a lot of posts here about having your fork or shock PUSH'd and was pretty sure it was worth the money spent. I've had the bike for about a year now, and the money I spent on the shock itself and the PUSH factory tuning (total cost $200) is by far the best investment I have made on the frame. The service PUSH provides for shocks makes a noticable difference in performance and is well worth the cost. Their customer service is very strong, and I can say this in that I had issues that were NOT PUSH's responsibility to resolve, yet they took the time and made the effort to ensure that my problem was resolved.
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Submitted by
Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle Date Reviewed: January 28, 2006
Favorite Trail:
ACFL
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Really firms up pedaling, esp. when climbing. PUSH customer service outstanding: I sent it back because it sprang a leak, and Darren himself called me when he couldn't find it at first. Fast turnaround. Cost-effective to get upgrade when your shock needs to be rebuilt anyhow!
Weaknesses:
Early version of the PUSH platform makes for a very harsh ride at low speed (which is where I am most of the time)until you hit something really big; dropping off logs et al results in a hard landing due to the near-lockout at low speed. No ability to turn off the platform for a long descent.
Similar Products Used:
demo'ed Manitou SPV on a Trek Liquid(loved its feel, not crazy about having to use a shock pump to adjust it).
Bike Setup:
'01 Rocky Instinct; Fox Float 100RL fork, Easton carbon bar, Danger Boy bash ring, 2.25 Blade up front, Conti Survival in back; Avid BB discs.
Bottom Line:
Really big improvement in pedaling efficiency for any shock from 2003 model year or earlier. The trade off is low-speed ride harshness, which I'm willing to live with (but it prevents me from giving it a 5). I haven't tried a newer Fox RP3 or Septune, RS Motion Control, etc., so I don't know how they compare.
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Submitted by
Chris
a
from Apex, NC Date Reviewed: January 27, 2006
Favorite Trail:
singletrack
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
PUSH
Strengths:
More than a rebuild, the upgrade completely transforms your shock. Full custom parts and tuning just for you, your bike, and your riding style. Greatly improves the overall ride and control on the trail. Get the lastest and greatest for much less than a new shock.
Weaknesses:
Costs more than a Fox rebuild.
Similar Products Used:
Fox ProPedal Manitou Swinger 5th Element
Bike Setup:
Hammerhead 100-X with PUSH upgraded Fox Float AVA shock and PUSH TALAS fork. I just picked up a Turner 5 Spot and the RP3 will be going to PUSH soon!
Bottom Line:
I was one of the first in line when PUSH annouced they were doing rebuilds/custom tuning for Fox air shocks. At the time, my shock was 2 years old and I was looking to upgrade. I was looking at the new Fox ProPedal and Manitou Swinger shocks. I opted for the PUSH instead because the idea of full custom tuning really appealed to me. Well, I'm glad I did. I've since ridden the Fox ProPedal and Swinger shocks and the PUSH blows them away.
The PUSH upgrade completely improved the ride. My shock was a 2002 so it didn't have a platform. The added platform was a nice feature giving nice firm pedalling without affecting small bumps. I think the small bumps were even better than before. The improved piston and valving greatly improves the oil flow making the shock feel more fluid. It takes big hits better with less spiking and is smoother. The added internal custom tuned high speed rebound circuit allows you to dial in enough slow speed damping so you don't get bucked off the bike on big hits but you still have high speed performance for the chatter without packing up. With Fox stock setup you can only choose slow or fast or comprimise both. They give you upgraded seals that are lower stiction and last longer.
Since my first upgrade at PUSH, they have made some improvements in the design that has made their great work even better. The new Vx piston is even smoother and allows me to stay seated more. Darren figured out how to isolate the platform from the compression damping. This allows the shock to be setup firm for pedalling without effecting the compression damping once the threshold has been reached.
The PUSH mods can benefit everyone but those riders outside of the "normal" weight range get extra benefit from the custom tuning. Since all factory shocks are setup for 160 to 180 lbs riders, light riders not get full travel no matter the sag or the Clydes out there wallowing too deep in the travel. PUSH can help.
PUSH takes all the guesswork out of properly setting up your shock. So intead of giving the consumer a shock that works for everyone with a million setting, the suspension experts at PUSH deliver a shock with optimized performance for just YOU!!!
And if you get your shock and don't like the ride, give PUSH a call. They will work with you to get it right. Excellent customer focus.
Oh, and try to get your shock rebuilt during peak summer riding season. Send it to Fox and you'll be lucky to see your shock back by Christmas. PUSH is very quick on the turn around so you can have your shock back in days, not weeks or months.
You really can't beat it. It's like having a full custom suspension tuner on staff just like the Pro teams. If you have a beat up old Fox shock that just isn't making the grade or just looking for the perfect ride, PUSH is it!
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