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Submitted by
aussie4x
a Weekend Warrior
from darwin Date Reviewed: November 13, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | any | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Came with frame | | Strengths: | Plush, Pro pedal | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Bike Setup: | Transition double | | Bottom Line: | Unlike some, I have not yet had an issue with this shock. It is really nice, Buttery smooth, A few rides to bed in. I love the pro pedal, It works well and is noticable when I switch it on which is easy to do with gloved hands. Damping is nice. I like this product alot and recommend it, and should it fail i will just get it fixed because its worth it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
frl
a Downhiller
from alexandria, va, usa Date Reviewed: August 16, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | the face of the mtn | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | fox | | Strengths: | Light weight. Super plush. Adjustments are easy and have obvious effects. Don't even realize it is there. | | Weaknesses: | Wish it was cheaper. | | Similar Products Used: | Stratos Helix | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Ellsworth Dare. RockShox Revelation. Hayes. XT. Mavic | | Bottom Line: | I used to live on the West coast and rode a lot in Tahoe, Mammoth, Santa Cruz and Pacifica. I had this bike set up with an 8" fork, stratos rear shock and heavy downhill wheels and tires. I'm now on the East coast (no downhill). Lighter front shock, and wheels and the 2010 RP23 have transformed this bike to a hill climbing, single track charger with downhill skills.
It ain't cheap, but so far it is worth it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
racehonda9
a Cross Country Rider
from Franklin,TN,USA Date Reviewed: June 16, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$240.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay.com | | Strengths: | This is a awesome shock! It stands up to any cross country shock and beats it down. Any where from roots or rocks to 6 to 10 foot drops it gets the job done. | | Weaknesses: | None and probably never will. | | Similar Products Used: | Rock shox monarch | | Bike Setup: | K2 Lithium 3.0 with fox float rp23 8.5 and rock shox boxxer race | | Bottom Line: | If you want a reliable shock get it | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DavidNeiles
a Cross Country Rider
from Chattanooga Date Reviewed: June 2, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Raccoon Mtn | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Dick's Sporting Good | | Strengths: | Great adjustability and easy setup. Love the 3 propedal positions! | | Weaknesses: | None really, have not had issue like the others below. Did have a small amount of oil build up after first couple of rides, it has gone away after "breaking in" | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Floar R, Manitou 4way swinger, rock shox sid and super deluxe | | Bike Setup: | 09 Diamondback Sortie Black | | Bottom Line: | This is a very smooth shox and it is highly tunable. Good compression and rebound settings. Love it | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Whason
a Weekend Warrior
from Milpitas, Ca Date Reviewed: May 14, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | skeggs | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Beyond Bikes | | Strengths: | It was free upgrade on my Ellsworth Epiphany. | | Weaknesses: | After first ride leaked oil, looked it up on the web and was told this could be normal and would stop. After second and third rides the same problem. Called my LBS and was they plan on fixing the shock by doing a rebuild on the seal. Apparently this is a common problem. I kind of think the next shock that I buy will be a rockshox shock, because the frequency with which people are reporting these problems can't be coincidence only.
I like Fox, and have used their products on my other bike, and trust them, but I feel like there is something wrong with this model shock in particular. | | Similar Products Used: | Fox RP2 | | Bike Setup: | Ellsworth epiphany talas in front rp23 in back x.9 | | Bottom Line: | I bet its a pretty good shock, but wouldn't know it because it hasn't worked well, my bike has been in the shop so I've ridden the bike a total of three times in the month since I bought the bike. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Peter
a Cross Country Rider
from Hillsboro,OR Date Reviewed: May 12, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | McKenzie River Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | came on my bike | | Strengths: | When working well the Propedal is great in all 3 settings, nice graphics, light, active in fully open. | | Weaknesses: | After first service the shock responded horribly with a stiction within the first 5mm of sag. When this problem developed it continued. | | Similar Products Used: | Fox RP23, Fox DHX Air 5.0, Manitoooo Shwinger 3way. | | Bike Setup: | 2008 Yeti 575 (orange), Marzocchi All Mtn SL 1 (07), Avid disc brakes, Sram gearing, Hope hubs and Mavic rims, Thomson front and rear, WTB saddle, Chris King headset, Conti tires etc. | | Bottom Line: | When I first purchased this frame the shock was wonderful but after 2 months of riding a sqeeking sound was emitting out of the shock everytime it compressed through its stroke. Air was the issue but no problem however after a service from Sunnyside Sports the shock responded horribly with this stiction within the first 5mm and it throws off the damping. One bike shop mechanic claimed that the nitrogen in the shock was not charged correctly? It was sent back to Fox only to return with the same issue? The mechanics at Sunnyside stated that Fox said "there is nothing wrong with the shock"! The sound continued and the stiction continues today. I went into REI and they sent it back to FOX and a brand new 2009 shock was sent back..............hmmmm with the same problem of 5mm stiction!! What the F***? I contacted Yeti about the shock and if it could be the linkage and had bike mechanics check the bushings etc and all is good! So the mystery continues and the shock seems to bind up when I set in on a slower rebound. Well now for the suspension company that claims to be the best out there hmmm "what the f***? Perhaps I will send it to PUSH and maybe they can take care of this issue!
Hey you FOX guys how come you don't have a resell programe for those who have purchased a shock and want to sell it or TRADE it with an upgrade or another shock?? Besides charging only a scant $490 for the DHX air is way under price you should charge at least $1,000 for the air can since all those other manufacturers are doing the same. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
coughingskunk
a Weekend Warrior
from burnt hills, ny Date Reviewed: March 22, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | came on a reign 0 | | Strengths: | super smooth, easy to tune, a lot of adjustability | | Weaknesses: | flaky propedal switch, mine broke | | Similar Products Used: | rp2 | | Bike Setup: | 07 reign 0, talas 36 | | Bottom Line: | I have been using this shock for a little over 6 months now, and absolutely love it. With propedal turned on level 3 my bike feels like a ht while climbing, although I almost always ride with the propedal off on both the ascent and decent. +1 for maestro suspension. The ability to turn the propedal on/off on the fly is nice too. I do find I run the pressure a little higher then recommended.
Just recently I had my shock checked out since it had started to make a small whistling noise under high compression only to find out that the air canister developed a deformity along the seal. My LBS called Fox and a new canister was shipped out by the end of the week. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
andrewpbrooks
a Cross Country Rider
from melbourne vic australia Date Reviewed: March 4, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | you yangs or lysterfield | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | no pedal bob, more adjustability than the rp3. great to switch off the pro-pedal and then bomb downhill!
Overall a very worthy addition to my Yeti | | Weaknesses: | an annoying squeak that appears every now and again. But i flick the pro-pedal off and on again and it seems to dissapear. | | Similar Products Used: | RP3
Float
Spine (the only form of shock absorption on my forst hard-tail) | | Bike Setup: | Yeti 575. Talas Fork. Rp23. Dt Swiss wheels. Xt drivetrain | | Bottom Line: | Excellent shock that is well worth the money! Totally changes the usability of the bike! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
yetibiker08
a Cross Country Rider
from Bend, OR, USA Date Reviewed: February 27, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Mrazek | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Sunnyside Sports | | Strengths: | When working properly the shock is wonderful and opperates really well with my Yeti 575. The 3 Pro Pedal settings are great and are very efficient. | | Weaknesses: | After servicing the shock does not opperate well now and has a funny sound within the first 5mm of sag and the shock feels strange now. | | Similar Products Used: | Fox DHX Air 5.0 (07) Awesome shock.........!! | | Bike Setup: | Yeti 575 (2008) and kit. | | Bottom Line: | I took this shock over to another bike shop here in Bend and they said there was something definately wrong with the shock however the mechanics at Sunnyside said otherwise. They contacted Fox and relayed the info and Fox gave them the run around. They gave me the run around too. What's up Fox please don't slide down like some of the other bike component companies out there. I played around with the air pressures and for my weight I got mixed information from Fox, the bike shop and Yeti!! Sorry Foxy boys but my rating is falling..........down..... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lone Ryder
a Weekend Warrior
from morganton, nc usa Date Reviewed: February 15, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | green town | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | local bike shop | | Strengths: | so far one smooth ride. alot, if not too much adjustability but who can complain about that. its great for the long cimbs and with a minor adjusment its ready to rip up the down hill with no problems. | | Weaknesses: | none as of yet. has alot of features and is super light so lets keep our fingures crossed that it last. | | Similar Products Used: | manitou swiner, fox rp2 | | Bike Setup: | o8 giant reighn with mvic 729 rims,code 5 brakes,tst2 bomber fork xtr ft anr rear derailers | | Bottom Line: | this shock will do pretty much what ever i want to do and more. im a or i try 2 be an aggressive rider and so far its a dream on the climb and a blast on the downhill. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
daredevilcsl
a Weekend Warrior
from Malaysia Date Reviewed: December 26, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Plentong | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | - Very plush
- 3 setting
- Lockout
- Propedal features | | Weaknesses: | - No other color variety | | Bike Setup: | 08 VIP Meta 5, 09 Fox 32 Float 15qr, 08 Fox Float RP23, 08 XT groupset, Hope Pro 2 Hub, DT Swiss EX5.1d, DT Competition Spoke. | | Bottom Line: | This shock is good and plush with propedal and lockout features. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ozhoo
a Cross Country Rider
from the Desert South West Date Reviewed: December 16, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | UniversalCycles | | Strengths: | Light weight, adjustability. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Float, Romic | | Bike Setup: | Ellsworth Truth | | Bottom Line: | After riding this shock for the past month I've figured out the technology pretty well. There's a little man that sits inside and looks out at the trail conditions ahead. The "guy" adjust the shock on the fly to get you across the terrain in the most efficient means possible. No idea when the little guy sleeps cause he seems to always be working. Or it could be magic, either way the shock is awesome. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from az Date Reviewed: October 29, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Works great-- when it works. | | Weaknesses: | It's been not working for most of the time I've had my bike | | Similar Products Used: | only fox stuff- which is a mistake | | Bottom Line: | Bought a Norco Fluid 1 recently with the RP23. The bike rips so I was really happy for about a week until the propedal lever stopped working and just sort of dangled in the middle, not allowing me to move from ProPedal to the free position. I always thought the lever was a little cheapo so I wasn't surprised. Sent the shock in to the local authorized Fox repair and they sent it back within a few days. Great! Until another day went by and now the shock switches into ProPedal but it doesn't work so now I can only ride in free mode. Anyone who's impressed with this 'technology' has never had a problem or had to deal with Fox. Their website is designed for 12 year olds and is a pain to find any real info. OH BTW, i looked at several other bikes at the shop which come with the RP23- seems like all the levers are just as loose feeling as the one I have making me think they all pretty much bite. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex lara
a Weekend Warrior
from Venezuela Date Reviewed: October 19, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Santa Teresa | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Venezuela | | Strengths: | Good looking, good action downhill | | Weaknesses: | Haven't used it offroad yet but anyway, really, I can't get it to be rigid enough, uphill I feel getting about a quarter inch of pedal bob. The faster I pedal in flats, the more bob I get and forget how much pedal bob you get when you are off the saddle. Am I doing something wrong? I am using it in the propedal, number three position, | | Similar Products Used: | None, used to ride a single suspension frame | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Superlight with XT Shimano, Fox RLC fork and avid disc brakes. | | Bottom Line: | I bought a FS bike because I understood that the lockout option makes it as rigid as a single suspension bike. But it seems not to b true.
People in these reviews rave about the performance of this shock and how rigid it gets, even off the saddle. So, really, am I missing an adjustment or should I forget about the uphill performance of my old single suspension frame? | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
clayj
a Cross Country Rider
from Baton Rouge, LA Date Reviewed: October 12, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Clear Springs, Ruston | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | Smooth, transfers power, no problems with air leakage | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Float | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kikapu
Manitou R7 Elite, Fox RP23, Mavic 819, Hayes HFX9, XT cranks | | Bottom Line: | I replaced a Fox Float with the RP23, my bike climbs much better know. No more bobbing on the flats either. Put it on propedal 2 and hit the trail. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
giladb31
a Weekend Warrior
from israel Date Reviewed: October 4, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Bottom Line: | perfect shox | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
CRed
a Cross Country Rider
from Duluth,MN Date Reviewed: August 28, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Weight and tunability | | Weaknesses: | None so far. | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose Canaan Team custom build | | Bottom Line: | Came on my Mongoose Canaan Team frame that I had built up.I have had zero problems with it so far,no leaking of oil,no strange sounds and all the settings seem to work great.I like that it is so tunable,I usually keep it set at the med. setting for when PP is on as it soaks up the smaller bumps and such yet still doesn't effect peddling efficency all that much,especially with the Freedrive suspension on the Canaan. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
scott emerson
a Cross Country Rider
from taos nm usa Date Reviewed: August 22, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | south boundary trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | taos cyclery | | Strengths: | none | | Weaknesses: | Will not hold together | | Similar Products Used: | Fox shocks for 13 yrs. | | Bike Setup: | Ellsworth Epiphany | | Bottom Line: | I have used Fox shocks since 1995 and never had any problems until I purchased the above Ellsworth with the RP23 upgrade. It started leaking pressure the first day. The bike shop replaced the seals and it continued to loose 40lbs. of pressure on every ride. The bike shop then called Fox (I was in the shop when the call was made)and Fox said they would send a valve assembly. After waiting a week, the shop called to see what the delay was. Fox said they didn't have a record of the shipment. They were not apologetic for the screw up. So, here I sit with a new bike in the shop next to two other bikes with Fox leaking shocks and forks. Quality control apparently has fallen off big time. I put Fox on a par with Microsoft's Vista. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Race67
a Cross Country Rider
from Redondo Beach Ca Date Reviewed: August 21, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | All of them | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | I replaced a RL shock that finally gave out after years of abuse in every condition (dont blame the shock at all). I found I could have less air pressure while using the pro pedal making the shock much more active and allowing the tires to stay on the ground while not getting the sag or bobbing on the climb. Basically its a great shock.
After about 7 rides the shock started leaking oil and wouldn't hold air. I heard lots of horror stories about Fox's customer support and was ready to be mad. However they were great, I sent the shock in and they turned it in 2 days (from when they received it). Ended up I had a nick in the shock and they took care of it.
GOOD JOB FOX. While I very rarely use warranty (I usually break components and dont expect suppliers to fix my abuse) its service like this that will keep me going back to them for both shocks and forks, as well as upgrades for my CRF450R. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Fox RL | | Bike Setup: | Titus Racer X, Chris king, XTR, Fox RP23, Fox F-Series | | Bottom Line: | I love my RP23 and F-series. When its time to upgrade again, it will be from fox. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
stevoway
a Cross Country Rider
from Larkspur Date Reviewed: August 1, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Lotsa China Camp Singles Omm Knight drive thats one.. | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$240.00 | | Purchased At: | Mikes Bikes S.R.Mari | | Strengths: | Great rebound and on off lever action great smooth reaction a little stiff, because I like to have some smoothness, but overall its a good solid shock. There are 3 models in this line and this is far the best one. Choose this shock "fabulous baby yea!" | | Weaknesses: | took a little while to get to know what the whata went on-line and found no manual to download and no support boo... I had to search bigtime to find anything, it was in a review of the product I found the specs and the manual, go figure... But its a good product, you might not ever need support... | | Similar Products Used: | street strokers, first 1000 Scalpel 2002 rear shock I liked that one too I like the Fox Logo as well... | | Bike Setup: | All Xtr Carbon frame Mavic rr ff, explorer con's tires,s-spd's petals,Lefty front W/lock-out,Fox rp-23 rear twin lever, Carbon Fiber rear stays,,Juicy fluid disc brakes,FI'ZI:K seat,Carbon seat post,Carbon Fiber Handle bar. | | Bottom Line: | It's a good shock and you should really consider that you want a good smooth shock well this the one so give it a spinn you won't regret it
Stevoway..................................... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom-Q
a Weekend Warrior
from Houston, TX, USA Date Reviewed: July 28, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Depends on the day | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | ProPedal is noticeable. Works great! Mine has been reliable. I have put about 800 miles on it without a hitch. Much riding in this world is harsher on bikes than Houston riding, but i do my best to give it a beating. In 3 months, it lost 5-10 lbs of pressure. To me, that's impressive! | | Weaknesses: | I haven't noticed any yet, i suppose with some more time, some may surface. | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain ETSX | | Bottom Line: | I love it. Love the bike too.
The bottom bottom line:
Take what you got, and ride the heck out of it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dirty Dirty
a Cross Country Rider
from Walnut Creek, CA, USA Date Reviewed: July 1, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | The Devil's Backbone | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Mike's Bikes | | Strengths: | I love the ability to throw this in propedal for climbing and the fact that it still absorbs hits while engaged. This shock absorbs huge jarring blows over rocks down to tiny chattering hoof prints on fire roads. | | Weaknesses: | The propedal lever can be difficult to reach on quick transitions from descents to climbing. | | Similar Products Used: | None, this is my first FS. | | Bike Setup: | GF HiFi pro | | Bottom Line: | The RP23 came stock on my bike. I haven't really ridden anything else to compare it to but it has honestly exceeded my expectations by far. I am still figuring out whether to ride with the propedal in "2" or "3" but this shock has none of the wasted energy from pedal bob I was concerned with and all of the upside I was hoping for. One descent on my ride is over dirt and exposed stone and the shock does an amazing job of keeping the rear tire engaged instead of bouncing around which I didn't expect at all. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Guillaume
a Weekend Warrior
from New York, NY, USA Date Reviewed: May 24, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | "My Favorite Trail" at Blue Mountain in Peekskill, NY | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$275.00 | | Purchased At: | Larry at Mountain High Cyclery | | Strengths: | Plush, light, highly adjustable. | | Weaknesses: | Air valve sits right next to ProPedal lever. Must reach down to change propedal. | | Similar Products Used: | Fox RP3, Fox Float R, 5th Element Air. | | Bike Setup: | 2005 Santa Cruz Heckler with Fox Vanilla RLC 32 and a bunch of mid to high-level parts. | | Bottom Line: | I upgraded from a 5th Element Air, which was a nice shock - light, great pedaling platform, reliable - to the RP23. Most noticeable is how much more plush the RP23 is (with the ProPedal off) than the 5th Element. It soaks up much more of the small trail chatter as well as the bigger hits like logs and square rocks. This shock has improved the handling of my Heckler and has breathed new life into the limitations of a simplistic single-pivot design.
My expectations were high, since I currently own two Fox forks and have previously owned an RP3 and a Float and have (with exception of the Float) been nothing but impressed with Fox products. The RP23 has so far lived up these expectations and more.
The ProPedal actually works and is not a gimmick. There is a huge difference in how the bike handles between the different ProPedal levels! I currently have the lever set to level 2, which I find plenty stiff for steep climbs. Most of the time, however, I leave the ProPedal off and let the shock soak up all the technical stuff.
I only have two complaints: The first is that the lever and the air valve are too close together. When I reach down to flip the lever, the air valve stem seems kind of in the way at times. I'm not sure why Fox felt it had to put the two so close together. My second (minor) gripe is that you must reach down to adjust the ProPedal, thereby taking one hand off the handlebars. This is not always convenient or even possible, for example if you happen to be maneuvering through a technical section of the trail. I understand that this is an inherent characteristic of the ProPedal system, and the benefits far outweigh this weakness. But I have to admit that it was nice not having to deal with flipping a lever with the 5th Element. However, both of these are minor inconveniences neither detract from the performance and quality of this shock.
Overall, I am once again impressed with this Fox product and will continue to buy their suspension components as long as they maintain this level of quality. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jez
a Weekend Warrior
from Melbourne VIC Australia Date Reviewed: May 17, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Awesome performance, great adjustability and ProPedal settings | | Weaknesses: | None yet | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Float RP, RockShox SID, Manitou Swinger 3-Way | | Bike Setup: | Stock 08 Giant Trance0 with full X0 SRAM/Avid Juicy Carbons, Crank Bros Acid 2 Carbons, Schwalbe Racing Ralphs, Lizard Skins Peaty Grips | | Bottom Line: | The back end of the Trance is pretty amazing, and the RP23 makes it even better. The RP23 is very sensitive, feels bottomless, and very adjustable. Easy to setup, too. The flickable lever to ProPedal setting is great: off road, leave it off, or set it to 1. You won't need more. Commuting or on really smooth singletrack, setting of 2. The 3 setting is for complete lockout, and you'd only over use it on smooth asphalt. For those who have suffered the shock packing down, I feel your pain. My Float RP did that, and it sucks. Fox know it happens and fix it under warranty, in my case, even after the warranty period had expired, so hang in there and get it serviced - they've fixed the problem now. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
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from Brevard, NC Date Reviewed: April 28, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Pisgah whatever | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$325.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | It's light. Pro-Pedal really helps on the gravel roads and smooth singletrack climbs. | | Weaknesses: | Works better going up than down. | | Similar Products Used: | Vanilla R (turd), Cane Creek AD12 | | Bike Setup: | 99' SuperV900, Z1 FR SL, raceface stuff, xt, sycross big box wheels, etc.... | | Bottom Line: | This would be a glowing review if i wrote it in the first month. It did give new life to my trusty but aging SuperV.
I just can't get this thing to work for me on the downhills. When the sag is set to the recommended amount, it climbs nice but is too harsh on the downhill and i can't get all the travel out of it. We have some some pretty rough trails here with small jumps, i'd like to get full travel out of it. If i decrease the air pressure enough so that it feels right going downhill, the bike sags way too much on the climbs.
Part of this is not the shock's fault by my own for running a big fork on this bike, but really i expected a lot more from this shock given all the hype around it.
I ran a Cane Creek AD 12 for years. The RP23 is not in the same league with the AD12's plushness. But then the AD12 does not climb like this RP23.
The shock is off the Push soon, maybe a HV sleeve too. I'll report back to see if they can balance this out for me. Meanwhile i'm looking into the Uber mod for the SuperV.
Happy Trails | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
xchaotic
a Cross Country Rider
from West Yorkshire Date Reviewed: April 28, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Hellhole Rocks | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$350.00 | | Purchased At: | Blazing Saddles | | Strengths: | Propedal is what I need, this is my first FS bike and I was very worried about losing energy going uphill. Not so with this shock! Just set to propedal on the fly and it's stiff as it needs be, on "2" it still soaks the occasional bump without problems, and downhill set it to off, and off you go indeed, this thing soaks roots, rocks and just floats thought any terrain. | | Weaknesses: | None so far, it still sobbles a tiny bit on "2" but, if you're certain about road being smooth, you can set it to "3". | | Similar Products Used: | None. | | Bike Setup: | Stock Marin Wolf Ridge 2007 | | Bottom Line: | The name says it all - it really floats through terrain and handles it all nicely. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dina Pang
a Cross Country Rider
from San Antonio, TX Date Reviewed: March 19, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Cameron Park Waco, TX | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Came with my Titus Racer X Frame | | Strengths: | Propedal is amazing. I haven't touched my hardtail since I started using this | | Weaknesses: | None | | Bike Setup: | Titus Racer X, Fox F80 RLC, Fox float rp23, Sram X.0 shifters and RD, XT crankset, XT FD, FSA K-force flat bar, FSA SL-K seatpost, thomson X4 stem, chris king headset, American Classic Disc Wheelset, Shimano XT Disc Brakes | | Bottom Line: | Propedal is all you need. You just stick in in that option and forget about it. I've got friends that have ridden behind me and they tell me that my rear shock is so responsive to the terrain. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jasen gomez
a Cross Country Rider
from morenovalley,ca. usa Date Reviewed: September 21, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | sycamore canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | californiacyclery | | Strengths: | so far it has taken everything i have thrown at it, rides great. Propedal is fantastic. | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | roco air | | Bike Setup: | GT I-drive-5 1.0 all 08 xt | | Bottom Line: | i ride this bike everywhere and jump off of everything the shock performs perfect. The propedal 3-way is great for climbs and long singletrack. Really happy with this shock!!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Raleigh,NC Date Reviewed: September 6, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$250.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Works flawlessly | | Bottom Line: | This shock is great. The propedal setting provide enough variety to keep me happy and the open position floats through the rough stuff. Zero problems with the shock and it transformed my 06 Stumpy FSR into a real mountain bike versus the Triad that the bike came with. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim K
a Weekend Warrior
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: August 25, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | 3 stage | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | I've only ridden it for one week, but so far it kicks ass. Formerly, I rode a Norco XCS 1 with a Stratos Helix Pro rear shock (for many years). Thanks to Norco for replacing my frame and shock after my old frame cracked at the welds, I now own a Fluid 1.0 with an RP23 rear shock. The pro pedal works awesome on climbs and flats! Flip the lever and you have a great descender. I'll update this review later if any problems arise. Many thanks to Rob at Home Hardware in Kincardine (the best bike shop in Ontario - located in maybe the most unlikely spot) and Norco who stand behind their products and put their money where their mouth is. | | Weaknesses: | None so far. | | Similar Products Used: | As mentioned above. | | Bike Setup: | As mentioned above. | | Bottom Line: | Works as advertised. I have a problem giving it a value rating since it was a replacement, but I have to rate it from my own experience... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Greg
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from South Africa Date Reviewed: August 21, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Came with Bike (Mongoose Canaan Team) | | Strengths: | When it works, it seems to work well. | | Weaknesses: | Reliability | | Similar Products Used: | None (first soft-tail) | | Bike Setup: | Came standard on my new Mongoose Canaan Team | | Bottom Line: | Very disappointed. On my first ride (40k's), it seemed to work well after spending time getting the sag perfect the night before. Next ride (following weekend), i noticed there was a lot more sag so i pumped it up to get it back to the recommended amount for my weight (9mm). The pressure had not dropped so i assumed it was a settling-in thing. The alarm bells should have rung!! Next ride was a 230km MTB marathon. After the first 1km, my shock started to sag. After 2km, it was almost totally bottomed out (allowing about 2mm of travel). At the first checkpoint i checked the pressure - it had not lost any pressure!! Pumped it all the way up to 250 bars - no change, just bottomed out a bit less. So i rode over 220km's with practically no rear shock. Any hard bump, it totally bottomed out - i just hope it didn't damage my frame!! Also damaged my crank-ends (severe scratches/gouges) on rocky sections of the ride since i was sitting so much lower to the ground, not to mention my back-ache from the unusual riding position (felt like i was on a BMX). Bought the bike specifically for that race so very disappointed that it failed when i needed it most. Finished the race in 14 hours - not something i wanted to do on a hard tail.
Phoned the dealer and they're happy to fix it under guarantee (which is to be expected) but i'm afraid the damage has been done. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Matamua
a Cross Country Rider
from SLC, UT Date Reviewed: June 20, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | big water/pipeline/drycreek | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$380.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | 3 propedal settings WITH POSITIVE STOPS! adjustable rebound | | Weaknesses: | I'm still breaking it in, but it doesn't feel like it has as flat of a compression curve as my float AVA did. | | Similar Products Used: | Float AVA, Spec. brain, coilovers | | Bike Setup: | 05 Dakar XC Expert - 06 Minute :03 (130mm), 08 Fox rp23, X.7, Avids, Weirwolf 2.1s, FSA cranks/rings, PC991, PG970 cassette, spd pedals | | Bottom Line: | bottom line = dope. The positive stops in the lever make a huge difference (if you have ever ridden an rp3 and rp23, you know what I'm talking about). P3 is like a full lockout, but if you hit a medium to big size bump, it will still suck it up, so you have all the benefits of the lockout, with the benefits of an active shock (but it doesn't soak any little stuff up). I paid $380 at REI, but I can return it whenever, for whatever reason I want. You can't do that anywhere else. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Kevin
a Downhiller
from Glenwood, NY USA Date Reviewed: June 19, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Came on bike | | Strengths: | Propedal works very well, I like the 3 stages of adjustment. | | Weaknesses: | More rebound clicks/range needed. My biggest problem with this shock is that it really does not ramp up at all at the end of its stroke. I think this has more to do with my long travel application(6"). It works well when I am out of the saddle but if I am sitting it sucks up all the travel. This only occurs when I have it "open" if propedal is on it just feels to stiff and does not use all my travel. | | Similar Products Used: | 5th air, RP2, float, swingers and just about every coil shock made for a DH bike. | | Bike Setup: | 2007 Giant Reign 0 stock except for tires. | | Bottom Line: | Great shock if it holds up to my abuse but it really needs some more end stroke dampening. Should probably not be on a 6" bike? | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Mannheim Date Reviewed: May 31, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Odenwald | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$360.00 | | Purchased At: | HiBike | | Strengths: | Minimizes Pedal-induced bobbing, lightweight, easy to set up | | Weaknesses: | none discovered so far | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Float | | Bike Setup: | Intense Tracer, Fox F100 RLC Fork, setup for cross country and marathon. | | Bottom Line: | This is just a "first impression" statement after having ridden this new shock for just a couple of times. Compared to my initial Fox Float which came with my Intense frame back in 2000, this RP23 has reduced pedal induced bobbing virtually down to nothing. The bike climbs effortlessly now and I'm amazed how well the improvement meets my expectation of this investment. Unfortunately, having read through the statements of riders who have used this shock for longer timeframes by now, I wonder if the problem of the notoriously "stuck down shock" still persists. As far as the 3 different settings for Pro Pedal are concerned, I still have to dial that in to find out which setting works best in which terrain. Bur so far, I'm really happy with this shock. Will post a review a few months from now to provide some more detailed feedback! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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J. S.
a Weekend Warrior
from Foster City, CA, USA Date Reviewed: May 8, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Waterdog Lake | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$329.00 | | Strengths: | lots of adjustability + tuning options. The 3 pro-pedal settings for quick ride quality changes | | Weaknesses: | None yet. Made slight squishing sounds during compression when it was new, but these went away after a month or 2. | | Similar Products Used: | Romic Coilover | | Bike Setup: | Ellsworth Truth 2003 black frame, XTR drivetrain, RF NextLP carbon cranks, Fox Float 100, Avid Ultimate V-Brakes, Chris King hubs + Mavic rims | | Bottom Line: | Great performance so far during this past year. The RP23 replaced my old Romic coilver which came with my 2003 Truth. The Romic was a solid performer, but maintenance was a royal PITA, so I took a chance on the RP23. The RP23 felt just as plush, but is much lighter and more adjustable with the 3 Pro-pedal settings. It's been a worthwhile upgrade for my venerable Truth. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Scott Smith
a Cross Country Rider
from Tyler Date Reviewed: February 23, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Tyler State Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$313.00 | | Purchased At: | Universal Cycles | | Strengths: | Serviceable. Pro Pedal works perfectly so far. The (3) three setings are distinguishable from each other. Rebound range of adjustment is realistic. Very smooth and has failed to "bottom" yet. Sag setting is easy. Light weight. | | Weaknesses: | May not be quite enough shock for some long travel rigs or very heavy riders. | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou Swinger, Fox Float | | Bike Setup: | New full suspension Cross Country Kona, XT (or better) equipped. A few upgrades here and there. 4' of travel front and back. | | Bottom Line: | It's working the way it's supposed to. (knock on wood) Seems to makes my bike faster and handle better. I'm a 160 pound guy on a medium travel XC bike. Seems like a good fit so far. Best rear shock I've ridden. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Trey
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, Co. USA Date Reviewed: February 9, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Monarch Crest Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | Push Industries | | Strengths: | Easy to set up, plush, great pedal platform. The on/off for ProPedal is a great feature. | | Weaknesses: | Spendy... but all bike gear is spendy. | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Float, Fox Float RP3, 5th Element | | Bike Setup: | I had this on a Trek Fuel with a Fox Float R100 fork | | Bottom Line: | I bought this shock from Push Industries when my Float R crapped out on me. It was like buying a new bike. I have since bought a new bike that had a Float RP3 and I really miss having the on/off feature that the RP23 offers. It's a great improvement. The shock is really plush and plays real well with the Fox Float fork.
I probably spent too much for this but since it was 'Pushed' I feel like it was worth it. I'm just biding my time with my new shock until I send it into Push. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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tcm
a Weekend Warrior
from dallas Date Reviewed: January 3, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | the one in my backyard | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | came with frame | | Weaknesses: | this baby is stuckdown!!!! | | Bottom Line: | this is an update to my earlier review. at the 5 month mark this shock stuckdown. i had really enjoyed it up to this point. i will say that fox serviced the shock and turned it around in 8 days. with that i am impressed. when the shock works it works great but now i am wondering when the next stick down will occur. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Terry Reis
a Weekend Warrior
from Birmingham Date Reviewed: January 2, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Any Severn Stanes | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | RaceCo Cycles | | Strengths: | Easy to set up and works very well. | | Weaknesses: | Stuck down after 3 light months riding | | Similar Products Used: | RockShox MC3R | | Bike Setup: | Trek Fuel EX9 (2006) Fox Talas RLC Fork. | | Bottom Line: | Initially I was over the moon with this shock. It performed far better than the RockShox MC3R which it replaced. But after very light use the shock stuck down while out on a ride. After some digging about on the internet I found there was advice on the Fox Website about this (which only says return to service centre). So obviously there is a problem here. I would have considered myself unlucky except I was out with a frind at the weekend who has a brand new bike with a Float Shock on it, the same design but simpler. On his first ride out he suffered the same problem. The weather hasn't been particularly cold here yet so I don't think we can look to that. Seems there may be a basic design flaw with this shock. I note I am the second poster to relay this fault.
I switched to Fox for better reliability, so far I am dissapointed. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Robb
a Cross Country Rider
from Tucson, AZ USA Date Reviewed: November 26, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Milagrosa, Upper 50 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$370.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Very smooth, light, adjustments that actually do something. | | Weaknesses: | Durability | | Similar Products Used: | RS Sid, Float R | | Bike Setup: | SC Superlight, F100RLT, SRAM X.0 | | Bottom Line: | I purchased this shock as an upgrade from a Float R (which lasted 18 months without incident). For the first 4 weeks, this thing was the bee's knees. Then it blew up and leaked nitrogen into the air chamber and all it's performance was shot to hell. So, I sent it back to Fox. 3 weeks later, I receive my repaired RP23. Again for the first few weeks...the performance was priceless. But I am more that just a bit frustrated with the durability of this product. I am chalking it up to "runt of the litter". But in order for this shock to rate 5/5. This thing better come back and never bother me again. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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tcm
a Weekend Warrior
from dallas Date Reviewed: November 7, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Boulder Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | Very light weight and very easily adjustable. extremely simple to set up and use. | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | fox float rl, fox float rc, fox float ava, manitou swinger 3 way, manitou swinger 4 way | | Bike Setup: | 2006 intense 5.5 with rp23 shock. | | Bottom Line: | this shock has done the job quite well so far. it is very simple to set up. set the sag and then ride in each of the 3 presets until you find the one that works for you. once you find the setting that works for you, just leave it alone. haven't changed the settings since about the third or fourth ride. this shock is much easier to set up than the manitou swinger 4 way but is also less adjustable. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Bungle
a Cross Country Rider
from Western Australia Date Reviewed: November 3, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$325.00 | | Purchased At: | Malaga Cycles | | Strengths: | Lightweight shock that delivers the goods. Three modes of propedal makes finetuning easy. | | Weaknesses: | None so far, but there will be plenty more abuse thrown at this shock. | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou Radium | | Bike Setup: | 05 Specialized Stumpjumper Pro FSR, Fox RP23, Rock Shock Revelation 409, Shimano XT Running Gear, LX Hydraulic's, Thomson Elite Seatpost,Easton Bars and Stem, Mavic 729 with DT Swiss Front Hub and DT Hugi Rear. | | Bottom Line: | Three modes of propedal....What a great idea....Once you find the setting that you like, the other two settings are really just wasted. Not having a lockout is no real great loss if you have your propedal and shock setup right you dont need the lockout.
What a great shock.......if your contemplating the upgrade, just do it, you wont regret it> | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Pete
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary, AB, Canada Date Reviewed: October 24, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Sulfer Springs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$260.00 | | Purchased At: | Bicycle Cafe, Canmore | | Strengths: | I was using a 5th element Air shock for 2 year until the dampener completely crapped out on me. Putting on the RP23 was the closest thing I could do buying a new bike...and I was not disappointed.
The lockout is much easier to use than the RP3 and there's a noticeable difference once engaged. It goes from a fantastic fast downhill to climbing with a simple flick.
It's easy to dial in for a specific riding style and I haven't had to touch it since. | | Weaknesses: | None to speak of yet. | | Similar Products Used: | 5th Element Air (brutal) | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Blur | | Bottom Line: | What an upgrade from the 5th Element air. I got a great deal on it ($300 CDN from my LBS) as they were offering this upgrade to anyone that had problems with the 5th.
It's an outstanding upgrade at a great cost. Many of my friends ride the RP3 with no problems...the RP23 has all the same riding characteristics but easier to use and hassle free.
I would recommend this to anyone when buying a bike new and looking for an all-around trail shock or for anyone that's looking to upgrade an older shock. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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