White Brothers Groove 180mm: Building up a new race bike? Deck it out with a Groove 180 and get ready to stand on top of the box! Utilizing the same oil separator damper as it’s big brother, the 180 delivers the same performance with 180mm of travel and a pound less weight.
Strengths: Smooth, stiff, plush, super tough, easy to set up, easy to maintain and working with white brothers is super easy.
Weaknesses: a little heavy, i was hesitant because of the weight but I don't regret buying it at all. Really it isn't even that bad plus the extra weight is not unsprung weight
This is definitely the best DH fork I have ridden. I have always loved the way Marzocchi forks felt and I still like them but the Groove is seriously amazing. I rode a boxxer wc this summer after riding the groove for a while and i was severely disappointed in the boxxer after riding this. It might not be the best choice for racing but I think it is a fantastic all around fork. It will last forever and is super easy to take care of. It is also cool because it is made in america by a smaller company, who by the way are awesome to work with. They are super helpful.
Date Reviewed: May 1, 2012
Strengths: Very stiff laterally. Super plush in rocks when there is weight on it. Good adjustment capability. Looks awesome! Handles bigger hits like a champ. Did I say it looks amazing? White Brothers seems to enjoy responding quickly to customer questions.
Weaknesses: Not as torsionally stiff as a typical dual-crown fork. Taking off the wheel is somewhat of a burden, especially the first few times. The inverted design leaves the legs more exposed than I would like, not really a weakness though, I knew what I was buying. The stanction guards are pretty pathetic, they seem to be tough enough, but just feel cheap, and the screws that hold them on are plastic. Very heavy!!!
This fork is awesome!!! If you like smaller companies and are willing to take somewhat of a gamble, buy it. It will not disappoint! During the break-in period, I was admittedly concerned. The fork felt extremely stiff and there was quite alot of sticktion in the seals, much more than for example my Marzocchi when I bought it. It felt very choppy, but after the seasl broke in, man was I impressed. I come from riding long travel single-crown forks, and this things lateral stiffness blew me away! Nine inches of bushing overlap actually make a noticable difference in the way this thing handles. It may not be the lightest (by any means) of modern dual crowns, but if you are looking for a tough, plush, dependable fork, get it. I would limit its best usage to huckers/big mountain riders simply due to its weight. It could be riden very fast on the right downhill race tracks, but anything that is flater or smoother will totally defeat the purpose of this fork. Its a fun fork to ride! The first few times you remove (or attempt to remove) the front axle, don't be surprised if it takes you ten or so minutes. Its an extremely tight fit, which definately makes taking it out a pain. I'm glad that it fits so tight, because that reduces flex in the fork (plus the stanctions can go wherever they want when the axle is out), but be aware that it will take a few minutes. Make sure you have a correctly sized dowel or other device to hit the axle out, you wont want to damage the threads on the axles end bolt. Putting the wheel back on will take time. Again, the stactions will go where they want, twisting and moving up and down all the time. Be patient and do the job right. I know this sounds dumb, but these forks are pretty expensive peices of kit, and I would hate to see one damaged. Also, don't over torque your axle retention bolts, you could cause a crack around the axles casing as I've seen on older Marzocchi Shivers. I would get out and buy one while they are still cheap, $500 at E-Bikestop is a smokin deal!!!