It relies upon highly sophisticated multiple oil-flow circuits and shimmed damping control to deliver the goods. At the user end, new laser etched markings on the top-cap adjustment cluster.
Submitted by
Ian Harratt
a Cross Country Rider
from Manchester England
Date Reviewed: March 14, 2010
Strengths: When new these forks worked like a dream and coped with some very aggressive demanding rides. Easy to set up and required no attention. They worked Very Very Well For a Time and I was very pleased with them until that is they wore out after only 18 months use.
Weaknesses: After 18 months of use the gold coloured finish on the left hand stanchion wore off and the seals in that stanchion gave up. The forks have now got to be repaired at a bill of £260. Not cost effective, at the price these forks cost new, I expected a lot more than 18 months wear out of them. I will not waste any more money repairing these forks.
Bottom Line:
Do Not buy Fox Talas Forks. Buy something for half the price that does the same job.
Similar Products Used: Marzocci MX Pro ETA 120mm are the only comparable fork I have used. A lot lot cheaper but more reliable and do the same job.
Bike Setup: 2007 Marin Attack Trail
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Submitted by
madmax
a Cross Country Rider
from larchmont, NY, USA
Date Reviewed: April 19, 2009
Strengths: I really like how plush you can make the fork, I love being able to hold a line down rock gardens with little effort. while I actually dont use the travel adjust much, it is incredibly useful when i do use it. all of the adjustments make it easy to find the right fit/feel
Weaknesses: I am a pretty light rider (sub 130) and the oil in the fork, I think, is slightly to heavy for me. I have to lower the rebound really far to get it to be a proper speed. Also, i want to service the fork myself, but it looks REALLY complicated, so i guess its to the bike shop.
Bottom Line:
this is a great buy if you can stomach the price. I absolutely love having the crazy amount of adjustments. I like air spring on this fork, becuase it replicates a normal spring nicely (very plush all the way through travel). I would say you could definately find better value somewhere, but if you want the best, and can pay for it, this is pretty much it.
Similar Products Used: rockshox judy (I think), its a great fork, and i dont think it costs much
Bike Setup: motobecane frame, rockshox rear shock, avid bb7 disc brakes (too cheap for hydro) shimano shifters and pedals.
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Submitted by
jorge_sk
a Weekend Warrior
from Bratislava. Slovakia
Date Reviewed: March 13, 2009
Strengths: really plush, super adjustable, stiff, reliable
Weaknesses: none so far - maybe the weight. 1870g is approx. 200-300g heavier than normal 120mm air forks, but considering all the systems used its OK.
Bottom Line:
Its my first adjustable as well as my first REAL fork as I only rode 80mm Manitou Black which was hardcore XC only.
This fork ROCKS, it is really reliable - the talas system works great with no faults for me. The design is great. The fork is really stiff but probably next time I'll go for some kind of thru axle. And the most important - it works really well - it is superplush for an airfork (well I - and not just me - am pretty sure TALAS is one of the most sensitive air systems out there). It also uses all of its travel without any bottoming out - just set the proper sag and ride. The seals/wipers also work well - no need to replace so far - but I am gonna try enduro ones. Travel adjust with no problems - use it really often. A lot of things to be set - its really cool. For me the lockout is the thing i never used.
This fork was the great buy for me. I originally wanted FOX float 120 to match my TranceX 5inch frame but I found this one to be the last model on SALE in my country (as the model from previous year) - so the price was 25% off. So the fork works great and really recommend it. However I'll only give it 4 chillis overall as the original price is really high.
Submitted by
GlazedHam
a Cross Country Rider
from Texas Hill Country
Date Reviewed: February 22, 2009
Strengths: This is my first non-race for besides a Z1 bomber I had once. I had grown quite used to flexy forks, so this fork was a real eye opener regarding how well a fork can perform.
Beside being really stiff and smooth through the travel, I really love all the adjustability.
I did not really pick this fork; it came with the bike. I thought I would never use the travel adjustment on the fly. I also felt like the bike wanted a 130 rather than a 140-120-100. It turn out that I use the travel adjustment like a fiend while riding.
Weaknesses: Small complaint, but the lockout adjust also moves the small bump compliance knob. I don't use the lockout much, but I do notice when the small bump compliance isn't there.
Bottom Line:
If you want a light fork for a 5 inch travel, I highly recommend this one.
Similar Products Used: I've used pretty much every racing fork since the beginning back in 1991. The only fork comparable to this one would be the Marzochi Z1 Bomber.
Bike Setup: Moots Cinco 5 inch bike weighing 26 or 27.5 depending on setup.
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Submitted by
dgangi
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ
Weaknesses: Knob for travel adjustment not easy to flick on the fly
Bottom Line:
This fork is a must-have for any all-mountain bike. In the 140mm setting, the HTA slackens enough to make my Titus very stable at speed as well as inspire confidence in the downhill/tech stuff. In the 120mm setting, the bike feels "balanced" for general handling, and the 100mm setting is great on long climbs - helps keep the front end down. I can't imagine having a "do-it-all" bike such as the Motolite with a fixed-140mm fork -- the 3 settings on the Talas truly give the bike multiple personalities.
The Talas is very stiff for a 32mm fork and the travel is plush. I am 150lbs and don't stress out equipment like heavier guys, but I also ride very hard and this fork delivers. 200+ guys might want to consider the Talas 36, but the 32mm version should be stiff enough for most riders.
The fork has been very reliable so far. I had to replace the seals only once in the 18 months I've had it...and that was due to a crash where I gashed the stanchion and it tore up the rubber seal. My LBS charged me $200 to replace the stanchion (which meant a whole new upper assembly) and replace all of the seals, which I thought was a pretty fair price.
All in all, this is an awesome fork.
My only complaint, and it's relatively minor, is that the adjustable travel knob is a little hard to change on the fly. This knob has 3 detents at the 6 o'clock, 7.5 o'clock, and 9 o'clock positions -- for 100, 120, 140mm respectively -- and it's a little hard to "feel" these the bike is bobbing around. And reaching down to move the knob is somewhat of a pain. This is one application where a remote switch would be handy.
Submitted by
David Meisner
a Weekend Warrior
from springfield
Date Reviewed: July 29, 2008
Strengths: Near Coil like feel in an Air Shock, Travel adjust, reasonably light weight
Weaknesses: Has broken twice in the last year.
Bottom Line:
Great fork when it's working, though the travel adjust has stopped working twice in the last year necessitating the need to send it back to Fox. They've fixed it both times at no charge which is cool though twice in a year is excessive maintenance in my book. Have got an good old school Fox 125 to run when this one's in the shop. It's worth getting however if you have a second fork to slap on and ride up long steep single track like we do here in Oregon. Couldn't live without it. Great work, just need to work out the sensibilities.
Submitted by
ggg
a Cross Country Rider
from Canada
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2008
Strengths: Plush. Good ride. Easy to use and setup. Looks good. This is for the 2007 RLC 140-120-100.
Weaknesses: Brutal to service. Get out your wallet for $$ and passport to get to Switzerland to learn the watch making trade. You'll need it to service these internals !
Service intervals are also very frequent leading to down ridin' time...
Bottom Line:
Really like the fork. Great when it works.
But the worst has come true. After 1 year of use (1 wk Moab and then handful of rides at home) the Talas adjust doesn't work (travel always at 140mm).
Now it requires service and looks like a pain by DIY so to the factory to see what they can do.
FYI - Zokes now has a 3 YEAR WARRANTY !!
Similar Products Used: Zokes 98 Z2 BAM - 5 yrs no use then just change the oil and it's LIKE NEW !
Bike Setup: 2007 Titus ML complete
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Submitted by
Ben
a Cross Country Rider
from Columbia, MD, USA
Date Reviewed: October 2, 2007
Strengths: Great feel. Very plush. No maintenance problems so far.
Weaknesses: None so far.
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I haven't owned a lot of forks so it is hard for me to compare performance. I ride technical trails(rooty, rocky, with some small drops between 2-3 feet). I ride aggressively. It's the 2007 model. No maintenance issues so far which is very important to me. I don't want a component that I have to fiddle around with a lot. I scratched the stanchion a little but was able to deburr it with some sandpaper and haven't had any problem with the scratches affecting the seals.
Bike Setup: Epiphany, Juicy 7's(185 up front & 160 in the back), Deus XC Lowriser 31.8, X9 Trigger shifters and rear derailleur, Thomson stem and seatpost, XTR front derailleur, WTB Rocket V Team, Crank Brother Candy's, Stylo 3.3 team, 990 cassette, Crossmax ST's, Intense System 4 2.25 up front and Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1 in the back
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Submitted by
Doug Gangi
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ
Weaknesses: Not as plush as my F80RLT (but still pretty comfy), no remote lockout or switch for travel
Bottom Line:
The TALAS is the perfect fork for my Motolite. The adjustable travel is wonderful -- I switch it to 100mm on climbs, 140mm on downhills, and 120mm everywhere else. The detents on the travel adjustment knob are fairly easy to find. It would be nice to have a remote switch for this feature, though.
I've had this fork on my bike for 6+ months and over a thousand miles in dust...mud...muck...and it's been 100% reliable.
Travel isn't quite as plush as the F80RLT on my racer bike, but it's still nice and comfy. The 32mm stanchions are plenty strong and stiff for a lightweight rider such as myself. If you are a heavy guy, then the 36mm version might be better suited for you.
A fork should work without worry...and this one does just that. 5 solid chilies for a truly great product. 4 chilies for the value -- this fork came on my bike, but if I had to buy it aftermarket, I would choke on the price.
Submitted by
Todd
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Gatos, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: September 8, 2007
Strengths: Stiff, plush, progressive. State of the art fork and compression technology
Weaknesses: travel adjust is unreliable
Bottom Line:
As a 140mm travel fork the Talas is very good. For the Ellsworth to work well in a climb (100mm) and fast twisty singletrack(120mm) and steep downhill(140mm), a reliable adjustable fork (and adjustable rear shock for the climbs) is needed. Unfortunately the Talals adjustable feature has failed me TWICE. The first time it failed after about 20 rides. Shop couldn't fix it so they sent it to Fox for factory replacement parts. Worked well when I got it back, but now after 5 or so more rides it failed again. It is permanently at 140mm. We are sending it back to Fox again. Maybe I got a lemon. I'll give them one more shot at fixing it right and then I will become a difficult customer.
Favorite Trail: Braille Trail in Demonstration Forest
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Bike Setup: Ellsworth Epiphany, mavic wheelset, XTR everything
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Submitted by
Alonso Castro
a Weekend Warrior
from San José, Costa Rica
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2007
Strengths: Everything you read in the other reviews. The fork is very sweet and sexy.
Weaknesses: I read several users complain about the travel adjustment, so I think I'll give my 2-cents. My LBS (Ciclo Güilly, in Santa Ana, Costa Rica. Da bomb!) told me they have had to repair several Talas forks in the left-leg travel adjust, apparently due to a factory defect of some sort. In my case, the maximum travel it provided was 130 mm (instead of 140), and stepped down to about 125 and then 110 (instead of 120 and 100). It was even more obvious when going back, as the first jump did not increase travel at all. Also, it was actually pretty hard to decrease the travel -after moving the knob, I had to push really hard on the fork a couple times to get it to stick. Anyway, they replaced whatever needed replacing for about $20, and now the adjustment works flawlessly. Now I move the knob down, and the legs sink almost by themselves like a U-Turn, plus I'm getting the full 100-120-140 range. Couldn't be happier!
Bottom Line:
Judging from my own experience and some of the comments here, it seems to me that many Talas RLC forks have a manufacturing defect that affects the travel adjust(which is precisely the point of the T-ravel A-djust L-inear A-ir S-pring!). However, it's not too hard to fix. Now, for the price I think FOX should get its act together and make their products flawless out the door.
Submitted by
David Meisner
a Weekend Warrior
from Eugene, Oregon
Date Reviewed: August 13, 2007
Strengths: Adjustable travel for steep climbs, plush and coilclose feel, lotza fun dials to impress the girls with.
Weaknesses: Busted after 2nd ride though after being repaired works like a charm.
Bottom Line:
If you climb steep single track this is the fork to have cause of the travel adjust and sweet smooth adjustable suspension. My travel adjust busted after a couple rides though 3 weeks later I was rolling with it again. I've been riding for years and thus have a second of every part I need to keep rollin. With todays high tech deal it seems this, and a second bike, is the way to stay on the trail in full anamation. Would give it a top 5 rating if it weren't for the busted fork and the fact that Fox never e-mailed or called back with requests for how to manage my problem. They need to put some more money into customer service though who wants to ship this out to India instead of paying the high cost of American labor. Bummer though.
Similar Products Used: Rode my RLC 125 for years and this fork is as good and with the travel adjust much, much better.
Bike Setup: Blur LT with all the goodies.
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Submitted by
Russell Norman
a Weekend Warrior
from Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2007
Strengths: Looks great, STIFF, Every adjusment you'll ever need, yet still simple to use, Weight, Feels like a coil fork, Looks great!
Weaknesses: Not the cheapest but certainly with the money!
Bottom Line:
These forks have really transformed my ride. They're great for trail use, can keep up with the xc guys easily, and can handle some heavier stuff too (within reason)
They're really stiff, provide a plush ride without diving under hard braking and are just very well made. What other fork is as good as them? As far as I know, nothing!
After three months I remain very impressed with this fork. I rode a Vanilla 125RL set @ 100mm travel on my last frame. This is an exceedingly plush fork yet I find the performance of the Talas as good! Travel adjust is brilliant - no more wasted energy, trying to keep the front end down on climbs. Rebound and compression knobs make significant differences to feel. To anyone with an old style Talas on their bike, trade it in for one of these - they are infinitely better.
Bike Setup: 575, RP23, XO, DT/Mavic, King, Easton, Ritchey etc.
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Submitted by
Dirtdiva
a Cross Country Rider
from SoCal
Date Reviewed: April 17, 2007
Strengths: Amount of travel, quick travel settings in a light package
Weaknesses: Seals SUCK!
Bottom Line:
Used the fork for three weeks. I had the air pressure recommended for my weight (130 lbs). Wasn't getting full travel, so I figured it just needed break in. While on a ride at the Kokopelli trail, noticed the oil was BLEEDING out of both stanchions.
Got back from the trip and contacted Fox. Don't know if I got shoddy treatment 'cause I'm a chick or thei guy assumed I was a novice rider, but this is what I got back, "It is perfectly normal to see a coating of oil on your stanchions after a ride. Your owner’s manual recommends cleaning your stanchions with a rag after a ride to prevent a buildup of dirt sticking to the oil that can overtime damage your seals." Then went on about proper air pressure...owner's manual, etc.
So, I tell their guy "Nick" that my buddy has one and it doesn't BLEED oil onto the ground when I lay my bike down for a moment rest. Then I get this back, "Your fork should not drip oil. Make sure that your seals are not damaged. If you have an accumulation or dirt on your seals this can prevent a proper oil seal. Also inspect your stanchion tubes. If there is any scratching, rock chips, or wear on your tubes your seals can be damaged prematurely. You can request replacement seals or set up an RA for factory service by calling 1-800-369-7469 ext 6550." Wow, way to place blame on the customer.
So, I had it sent in for warranty, but they couldn't do it in 48 hours, as their web suggests, because of the Sea Otter. So they promised 7 days. 8 days later, it's still not back. Dang, that's a long time to replace the "blown seals."
I hope it works better than new when I get it back. I'm really impressed with the features on this fork and would like to have it working as it should. I shouldn't have to PUSH a brand new fork.
A $700 fork should function as advertised and not have blown seals after 3 weeks of use by a 130lb chick that rides cross-country. When that happens, customer service should take it back (apologetically) and send it back in the amount of time promised.
I'll post another review when I get it back and put more miles on it.