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Submitted by
Donnie
a Weekend Warrior
from Garland, Tx.
Date Reviewed: September 7, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Aardvark Cycles | | Strengths: | Light, adjustable, does not leak down, no seal issues | | Weaknesses: | Not too plush on small bumps. No Negative travel. If air pressure set to where there is no sag, the shock tops out over stutter bumps and sounds awful. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | 97 Dakar Team, Full XT 9sp except for WTB wheelset, tires and headset. Also Salsa stuff and a Trico seat | | Bottom Line: | It came with my Dakar Team frame. I like it and have tinkered with pressure, rebound dampening and compression dampening a lot to get it right. Without extra rebound dampening, I felt like it was going to rebound me right over the bars. No problems in over a year of use. A coil shock would be more responsive on small bumps, but I'll keep it until it blows up. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
phishin
a Cross Country Rider
from Tulsa, OK
Date Reviewed: May 9, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Turkey Mtn Area | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Price, weight, it works | | Weaknesses: | Sometimes has stiction for first 5 min of ride but goes away quickly. No biggie. The 8 has been discontinued. | | Similar Products Used: | Sid, Fox Float R | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar | | Bottom Line: | This shock came on my bike. I was going to put a fox Float R on it but whats the point. It works just as well and is lighter. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
scott ladue
a Cross Country Rider
from sandy, ut
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | private | | Strengths: | its nice smooth feel and ride | | Weaknesses: | no lock out | | Similar Products Used: | fox vinlla | | Bike Setup: | jamis dakar | | Bottom Line: | this is a sweet shock for the hard cor rider it has a good feel and a good smooth ride | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from Vancouver
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ape Canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Light
Easy to adjust
Easy to fix, if needed
| | Weaknesses: | Some stiction | | Similar Products Used: | Fox Vanilla air
Fox Coil over
SID air
| | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar | | Bottom Line: | This shock has been great for me. I have ridden it probably 1500 miles with no problems. It has not lost any air and has never blown up. It is stickier than the coil over, but I like the stiction as it helps from keeping my bike from being to active. It is easy to adjust, I hear Cane Creek has great customer service, and it does what is supposed to. Great shock! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Howie
a
from Mendocino, CA
Date Reviewed: January 16, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Lots of stiction
finicky to adjust
needs air pump
must adjust air frequently | | Bottom Line: | Save yourself some grief & buy a coilover. Mine didn't last a month before the seals went. I contacted Cane Creek who told me that this was a frequent occurrence with the AD-8 and they wanted to send me an AD-10. I rode a friends & could tell no difference at all in the -10, still lots of stiction and was tired of pumping an air shock every week to maintain pressure, so I said no thanks & bought a Fox coilover. Best thing I've ever done. While other people replace their air shocks and work on them, I'm out riding. Wise up! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Middlesex, NJ
Date Reviewed: April 11, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Chimney Rock | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Lighter than coils, plush, very adjustable.
| | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none, this is my first full suspension | | Bike Setup: | Janis Team Dakar, Z2 A-bomb, LX/XT/XTR, King, Sun | | Bottom Line: | Way plush, doesn't have the 'sproing' like the Stratos on my friends Y bike, Seems to suck up hits better than the A-bomb I have on the front after getting big air. Since it is a progressive type suspension it can suck up small modulations AND big hits without bottoming out. Now that I think of it once I set it up it has never bottomed out, unlike my old Indy SL... but thats another review.
After a year I have had no problems and no leaks. I would strongly recommend getting a Lizard skin cover to keep the seal clean. It's also nice to be able to set it up for my weight (155 lbs) right out of the box without having to get lighter springs like I've had to do with other suspension products. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Van den Heuvel
a Weekend Warrior
from Northridge, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: April 11, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | chesebro - agoura | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | - light
- adjustable
- it works great | | Weaknesses: | - none | | Similar Products Used: | - fox vanilla "x" coil-over shock (junk) | | Bike Setup: | - DBR X2 '99 Marz Z3LT, XT/LX, etc. | | Bottom Line: | I broke down and cried tears of blissful joy and felt like a kid with his first bicycle on Christmas day when I saw and felt what this shock has done for my bike, and I haven't even been on offroad trails yet since I replaced my Fox Vanilla, which was clattering like it was not working at all on anything except large, slow bumps. I suffered 3 months with the Fox, thinking my bike was destined to clatter and shudder on washboards because it was only an $800 bike. Wrong. A pogo stick with one of these shocks on it would be as smooth as a Cadillac.
For $90-150 on the internet (used) and $200-250 new, this shock just cannot be beat. Has adjustments, rides sweet and smooth, makes the back end perform like a Marzocchi on the front. Plush, plush plush...
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Submitted by
tom
a Cross-Country Rider
from canberra, australia
Date Reviewed: September 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
light, affordable, very sensitive compression stroke. my fox pump fits straight on and works. | | Weaknesses: |
boingy rebound on bigger hits, the rebound damping takes a lot of experimentation to dial in. blew it up once but cane creek warranteed it and it seems okay now. | | Similar Products Used: |
fox alps 4R (had two and they both exploded). | | Bike Setup: |
Ventana el habanero | | Bottom Line: | Good value on a cross country bike with an active linkage system because it's light and sensitive (for an air spring). The compression/rebound dials are hard to get at (on my bike design). I don't think that this shock would be good for downhilling. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Cross-Country Rider
from Elkhart In
Date Reviewed: September 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Still Looking | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Easy to adjust. Works wonderful | | Weaknesses: |
Still looking. Give me some time. | | Similar Products Used: |
Rock Shock Delux
Fast Trax | | Bike Setup: |
Jamis Dakar Team | | Bottom Line: | Just got the shock with the new bike. I was flying down a familiar trail, but it has changed recently. I went air-borne over a lip and landed a bit down the trail.It sucked it up. No return bounce, no complaint, no funny noises. Much better than the RS on the other bike.Best way to say it. Had it two days and it's already saved my ass once. Watch for a follow up.
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Submitted by
Frederik
a Weekend Warrior
from Stockholm, Sweden
Date Reviewed: September 1, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Light, responsive, easy setup and maintanence | | Weaknesses: |
Leaking air when seals dry up | | Similar Products Used: |
Fox | | Bike Setup: |
Jamis 98 Dakar team
Marzocchi Z2 BAM | | Bottom Line: | Great shock. Had problems with leaking seals, due to age, but after contacting Cane Creek on the net, I've got an answer from Gregg at the European service center in Spain. After 1 week I had a new set of seals, instructions how to change and even a specific tool to dismantle the shock. No more leaking seals.
Best aftermarket service I ever experienced. That on top of a great product is a wonderful combination. Five stars to Cane Creek..... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike Fleming
a Cross-Country Rider
from Emerald Hills CA
Date Reviewed: July 25, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Manzanita@Skegg point | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Very good dampening and easy to set up for different weight of riders. | | Weaknesses: |
My shock leaked very bad I had to fill the shock every time I wanted to ride. | | Similar Products Used: |
tried the stratos coil over oil and absolutely loved it. | | Bike Setup: |
I have a 98 jamis Dakar Team. | | Bottom Line: | The Cane Creek AD-8 provides very plush dampening however does not rebound as well as a coil over.MY shock ended up completely breaking in half after about 8 months so i would say that it is not the most sturdy shock on the market. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross-Country Rider
from Laramie WY
Date Reviewed: April 24, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Bottom Line: | I have used the AD-8 for a couple years now on my Jamis Dakar Team with no problems at all. It does lose a little air every couple of weeks, but it works very well. My next rear shock will definatly be a cane creek. I have tried a rock shox and a fox, but I really like my shock better. I will give it five burning horses. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave Morin
a cross-country rider
from Springvale, Me
Date Reviewed: February 26, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Another happy 1997 Jamis Dakar owner. Stock AD-8 still working great after 2 years under 200 pounder. Quickly found the damping adjustments I liked and haven't touched them since. I love the fact that by adding or subtracting a few psi's I've got the perfect set up for Sunday morning hang overs or after work road races(did I just say road out loud??). Overall I'm very pleased with performance. My only concern is what I've read about blown seals, a 10 mile walk home will take the enjoyment out of any ride. Because of this I'm subtracting 1/2 a star from perfect.... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Mosier
a weekend warrior
from Sparks, MD
Date Reviewed: February 15, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Came stock on my 1997 Jamis Dakar. Have had no problems and the shock has worked great for 2 seasons. This is the lightest shock I have used and weighing 185 lbs., I am impressed with the response and durability. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a cross-country rider
from Gallup, New Mexico
Date Reviewed: January 6, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The cane creek AD-4 shock came as original equipment on my Schwinn URT. I love it!! I can't say enough good things about the response and plushness of this shock. Techno geeks talk about stiction in air shock, but I don't know where mine is! Highly recommend this shock. Replace your Fox or Rock Shox!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
GREYSON
a weekend warrior
from LG CA
Date Reviewed: December 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
THIS SHOCK HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE MOST PART, ESPECIALY SINCE
I AM TO LITE FOR COIL SHOCKS. THE PROBLEM IS LEAKAGE, WE HAVE HAD ONE FOR A COUPLE YEARS, FIRST ON MY DADS KLIEN MANTRA,
THEN ON MY TREK Y. WE HACE HAD A LOT OF LEAKAGE PROBLEMS,
TODAY, THE SELF SEALING VALVE WOULDN'T SEAL WHEN I TOOK THE PUMP OFF, SO I HAD TO PUMP IT MAX AND QUICKLY PUT THE LID ON.GOOD PERFORMANCE BUT BAD MANTAINANCE. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MIKE AMER
a weekend warrior
from KEENE,NH
Date Reviewed: December 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I OWN A GARY FISHER JOSHUA XO WITH RS DELUXE,THE LACK OF
DAMPENING MADE THE BIKES CONTROL POOR ON THE ROUGH STUFF,
CANE CREEK WAS THE ONLY COMPANY WITH AN APPLICATION AND THUS FAR I AM VERY HAPPY,THE ADJUSTABLITY RULES,WITH HIGHER
PRESSURE I WAS ABLE TO GREATLY DECREASE POGOING ON LONG CLIMBS,IVE RIDDEN THIS FOR ABOUT 2 MONTHS,NO PROBLEMS | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a cross-country rider
from Stockton CA
Date Reviewed: October 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Well I just put a Cane Creek AD10 on my Cannodale SuperV1000......what a difference.....232gms vs 550gms (my fox vanillaR)..... & the response was incredible....way more plush than the fox.....it soaked up every bump I could imagine....so far it has held its pressure well, but its only been a week or so. I though it would have stiction & not respond as well as a coil shock..but man was I wrong....this shock does absoultely everything better than the fox. About my only complaint is I would like more rebound damping adjustment...but I ride mine maxed out & its fine..... 5 flamings thingies for the AD10..it rules | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joey
a cross-country rider
from Pensacola Florida
Date Reviewed: October 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My Jamis Dakar came with an AD 4, which I blew out over the course of a year.
I replaced the AD 4 with the warranty and hopped up to the AD 10. The difference is sick. The AD 10 is a dream. It is at least 100X as supple. I am so happy with the AD 10. Matched with my Z1 Bomber, my bike rides like a new Lincoln. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ALEXIE KARAVAKIS
a racer
from CHICAGO, IL
Date Reviewed: August 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
As far as adjustability is concerned it's a sweet light shock… It gives me a sweet ride on almost everything… As long as its working I love it… notice I say as long as its working… I've had a major problem with air shocks I'm on my fourth in 2 years, & I've been a weekend warrior up until recently… The AD-8 is the best of what I've had so far.. But I have good & bad days with it… Some times it will hold 180 psi for weeks… other times I'll notice the air pressure decreasing while I'm on my ride… I've taken my pump with me on some rides… It's kind of maddening… But I don't see other people complaining about this so maybe I've have just really bad luck… Have fun | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim Solinski
a weekend warrior
from Big Rapids, MI
Date Reviewed: July 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a tremendous improvement over my Fox Vanilla equipped Klein Mantra. I wasn't getting anywhere near the range of travel as I am now. The rock Shox pump I ordered needed an adapter to fill the shock properly. Other than that I've had no problems. It has a great ride and looks good, too! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mark
a cross-country rider
from storrs, ct
Date Reviewed: July 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I'm thinking about buying an AD-10 & was hoping I might ask a few questions: 1)On long uphill climbs, how much of the suspension can you eliminate by turning the compression dampening to the max? 2) How difficult is it to turn those nobs on the trail (do you really need a hex wrench as 1 reviewer suggested)? Thanks for your time: My email is MAS93012@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kevan
a cross-country rider
from LA, CA
Date Reviewed: June 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had my AD-10 for about 2 months now on my Klein Manta. It was a great upgrade from the non-adjustabel Fox Vanilla that came stock. The Fox was overdamped, which was ok at 1st, coming from a hardtail background. I put on the AD-10 to save weight (220 gms vs 500 gms measured!) but then immediately noticed that the suspension was a lot more active. Increasing the damping could get it to feel a lot like the Fox, but smoothing. Interestly enough, the increased activity caused the bike to phantom shift, something it had never done before. I found that the cable housings were about 1/4 to short, a common Klein problems. Never noticed this with the stiff FOX!MBR always complains about stiction, but I really didn't notice any. I can feel it working even on the small ripples you find on newly finished surface streets - what more do you want?One little detail - they recommended that no lube be used on the two pivot point bearing because it might attract dust. I followed this, but after a month started getting a loud creaking from the suspension. Taking the shock off a lubbing the pivot bearing with White Lightening (so as to not attack dirt) cured this.Based on my riding and their scheduled maintainance, the shock should be rebuilt (at home!) about every two years - pretty good. I lose about 1 PSI a week so far, so I can go several weeks without topping off.Overall, I rate this shock very highly. Hope it hold up. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jared
a cross-country rider
from minneapolis MN
Date Reviewed: May 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
the fox vanilla shock on my 1998 Klein Mantra comp was under sprung for my relatively agressive riding style and 190lb weight. I also wanted damping adjustment. The AD 10 I put on changed the quality of suspention travel more than I could have imagined. It was like night to day. I use aprox. 205 psi in the shock and it gives tons of plush no sticktionless travel. Any one with this bike and my aproximate weight would be a fool not to make this upgrade. ive used the shock in mud thick enough to stop the bike and have had no seal problems. I would recomend getting a pump shock (shrader) because I do add air every three days or so just to make sure it is at the proper psi. The shock can also be taken apart to change the nature of the shock from a rising rate to a falling rate to a linear rate. This was the best upgrade to my bike I have made. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Kress
a cross-country rider
from La Crosse WI
Date Reviewed: March 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a 97 Y bike with about 13,000 miles on it and have a AD10 which has served me very well. The Cane Creek was put on about 2 months after I origionally purchased the bike. The reason for this was that I blew the guts out of the origional Fox 5 so I ordered one from Cane Creek. This shock set up was not recommended by the Cane Creek people and the felt very strongly that it would not work well on my bike. The only real problem with this set up to date is a small amount of po-go on long, extended climbs. The vast majority of the po-go can be tuned out by running the shock about 10psi higher the the recommended psi for your weight and by increasing the compression a bit. If your a strong rider with smooth pedal stroke and a Y style frame this setup is definately do-able. Good work Cane Creek and I look forward to using your shock on a full suspension Homegrown I am hoping and planning to build.
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Submitted by
Steve
a racer
from AZ
Date Reviewed: February 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Works very well! Ordered as a replacement for the Fox Vanilla on my 1997 Rocky Mountain Element Race. The Fox Vanilla was undersprung and under-damped for my weight of 190lbs. I will send it to Fox for rework and keep it as a spare. Anyway, the AD-10 works perfectly. Have had it in use for about 2 months, so far so good. The key to the perfect air pressure is to know the leverage ratio of your suspension. If you go strictly by the rider weight chart I don't think it will work. In my case it was 20lbs too high. I found the rider weight/leverage ratio chart on the Cane Cane web site and it was much closer to the perfect setting. The shock fit perfectly on my bike. The shock holds air so far. The small adjusting knobs don't bother me because once you have got it dialed in you don't need to play with it that much. Also, the small knobs are neatly tucked out of the way in case you bite it hard you won't snap them off. The AD-10 seems to have infinite adjustability and responds to small medium and large bumps equally well. So far I'm happy with my purchase and recommend this shock. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
viperman
a cross-country rider
from stillwater, ok
Date Reviewed: February 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
this shock kicks a**. It is soo smooth. If you understand how to adjust a shock unlike a couple of these reviewers, it is very plush and smooth. Beats the hell out of the deluxe that came stock on my bike. yada yada yada need to meet word count....................... ............... .............. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mitchel Bynum
a cross-country rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: January 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a short term review. I've been using the AD10 on my Klein Mantra for about a month. This shock is great. The damping adjustment does make a difference, though I would have moved the range a little so you could over damp if you wanted to. Performance wise the shock is great. It started out with a little stiction to get the shock moving, but it's loosened up nicely. It takes the really big hits great. It seems to move on the small stuff also, I just don't think I can accurately review small bump action because of my suspension design. The shock has held it's pressure perfectly. The only thing I might do is decrease the inner volume a little to give it a sharper spring rate, but at this point I'm not sure I really want to since it seldom to never bottoms. If I had it to purchase all over again, I would still lay out the $225 Bikeworld.com sold it to me for. By the way, dealer cost with shipping is about $158.00. My box still had a COD tag on it. If anyone has any questions feel free to e-mail me. Now if I could only get into the 24lb range. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bud Merritt
a cross-country rider
from GA
Date Reviewed: January 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
NOTE: Review is for the AD-10
After over one hundred miles on this shock I'm prepared to make a few comments regarding it's functionality on my Santa Cruz Heckler. First, I'm impressed and although I had no mechanical problems with my RockShox SD I feel that this is a better product. The way that you can vary the psi, the compression damping and the rebound damping allow you to fine tune the ride to the trail better than I ever imagined. I can crank in the compression damping and virtually eliminate the slight granny gear pogoing of my Heckler. Sprints in the middle ring and climbs in the granny are better than I ever imagined. A real and definite difference not just accolades because I paid good money for the thing. Paradoxically, while it seems to eliminate pogoing it is soooo plush when you really need it. The only problem is that it needs clickers because the compression/rebound dampers are impossible to adjust without a hex wrench. And of course it weights about ONE HALF what the RockShox did. Four flaming dead horses for it -- would go five but for the difficulty in adjusting on the trail. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dub
a racer
from n.c.
Date Reviewed: December 28, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I replaced the coil-over fox shock with the ad-10 on my cannondale super v and the difference is like night an day. I liked the super v before but now the bike is just great.The rear sucks up everything from small bumps to big hits. This is the best upgrade I have done to date. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Glen Leis
a cross-country rider
from Toronto Canada
Date Reviewed: November 28, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
My AD8 came stock with my Thin Blue Line Fleetwood. To date it has been the only problem area on the bike. I've blown one and I continue to have problems with it being far too bouncy even though I have the damping set at maximum. I'm shopping for an alternative. I know this shock is light but I wouldn't recommend it.
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Submitted by
Mark Smith
a cross-country rider
from Cabin John, MD
Date Reviewed: October 5, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Actually, this review is for an AD-10 which is an upgraded AD-8. The main
difference between the AD-8 and AD-10 is a quadruple lip seal and a knurled
aluminun ring that used to be plastic. Both of these are to make the shock
more durable.Regardless, the proof-is-in-the-pudding. This is one tastey pudding. I installed
the AD-10 on a Klein Mantra Comp. I had a steel sprung Fox on before. The
difference is amazing. The AD-10 is MUCH more supple and compliant over bumps.
Trees root that used to kick the back end around become little blips. Biggers
hits, like going over logs are sweet. My butt is happy and my lines in corners
are smooth.BTW, I have only had it a few days. I'll post a follow up later about reliability.
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Submitted by
Buster Sikes
a cross-country rider
from Florida
Date Reviewed: September 6, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
An AD-8 came as original equipment on my 97 Jamis Dakar. I have blown the shock
twice and recently read somewhere Cane Creek (Dia-Compe) is discontinuing the
AD-8 because it blows so often. They are supposedly replacing it for 98 with the
AD-10. I would give it no stars but I really do like it when it holds air. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Harold Dupuis
a cross-country rider
from Woodstock, GA
Date Reviewed: August 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Great shock! I rode it for two weeks and blew out the seals. Cane Creek has replaced it with the AD-10.
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Submitted by
charlie
a cross-country rider
from Southport, C
Date Reviewed: July 9, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Replaced my ALPS 4 rear shock with the new Cane Creek AD8 and it is a big difference! Lighter, more plush, less stiction, much more tunable. You can run it with less sag and it's still more plush than the Alps. You can also tune it to different types of terrain ie. stiffer for fast smooth terrain or plusher for the rough nasty stuff.
Wish I had replaced the Rock Shox Super Deluxe with this shock because its as responsive yet has none of the bounciness found with coil/oil.Great shock! | | Overall Rating: |
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