The new 4 piston Downhill brake by Hope Technology is the most revolutionary braking system ever made. The DH4 uses a totally open system that provides drag free, self adjusting performance. This brake provides more power than any other brake out there, yet offers superior modulation.
Submitted by
Daniel Matthews
a Downhiller
from South Wales Date Reviewed: October 3, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Intense
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Chain Reaction Cycles
Strengths:
Very Powerful, very progressive, reosonably light and looks great !
Weaknesses:
The biting point is a little later than I would like, because its an open system the adjustability is limited.
Similar Products Used:
Grimeca stuff, Hayes, Magura, V-Brakes
Bike Setup:
Dirt Jumping Freeride bike, Z1 Freerides, built for strength.
Bottom Line:
Very Good All round brake well worth the extra money, suits lots of styles of riding, another great product from a great company !
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Submitted by
Matt
a Downhiller
from England Date Reviewed: August 8, 2002
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Good stopping power
Weaknesses:
The best got better... Need to bleed after heavy riding
Similar Products Used:
RockShox Disc
Bottom Line:
If you're using these discs and are having trouble bleeding them, get the bleed kit off hope as it's a lot better (although pretty expensive).
Also if you want to improve performance (less pump up & less bleeding to do) then switch to DOT 5.1, I did this summer in Morzine and noticed my brakes worked a lot better than last year with DOT 4.
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Submitted by
Rich Steels
a Downhiller
from England Date Reviewed: March 23, 2002
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
www.chainreactioncycles.com
Strengths:
They are British, they are manufactureed to excelent standards. They stop you with one finger!!! And have stopped being made as single crown fork users were using them only to find that they are so powerful they bent the forks!!!
These disks rule....Period, There isn't a brake out there yet that can stop a 50lb Downhill bike as fast as these and offer as much feel and confidence. I used to live 200yards from the Hope factory over here in the UK. I had a BIG crash one day, totally recked my Big'un hub and damaged the pipe leading into the caliper. I went to see Hope to buy some parts to fix the damage as everything was out of waranty apart from my DH4. Hope wouldn't sell me anything!!, they replaced everything free of charge. How good is that for customer service. Steve Peat was furious to know that GT wouldn't let him run Hope last year. This year he's on Hope, Say no more. British at it's best, brin it on.....
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Submitted by
Clint
a Racer
from Tyrone, GA Date Reviewed: March 23, 2002
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
sponsor
Strengths:
Craftmanship, performance, weight, ease to use
Weaknesses:
Oil changes and bleeding the system. This is a tedious process and to do it well takes two people if you do it as the manual describes. I'm open to suggestions for a better way.
Similar Products Used:
Avid mechanical disc. I've ridden others but have not owned them.
Bike Setup:
Haro Werks DHR, Stratos S7, Hadley, rhyno's
Bottom Line:
I painstakenly debated spending the money on these brakes. No one in my area uses Hope so I had to go by what I read in this forum. Thanks. I must say these brakes perform like nothing I've used so far. One finger is all you need for all the breaking power you can handle. Keep your hands on the bars, not the brakes on those hammering descents. For those of you out there considering what to buy next look no further. I know it's painful but just drop the cash, you wont regret it. Are these brakes British? No wonder my bike wants to stop at every durn tea plant on the trail and sniff around. Happpy trails!
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Submitted by
Mojombo
a Weekend Warrior
from La Verne, CA Date Reviewed: February 24, 2002
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$220.00
Purchased At:
universalcycles.com
Bottom Line:
Before I bought these somewhat pricey brakes I did some research. Look at the reviews on this site, what do you see? The Hope disc brakes are the ONLY ones to get consistently good reviews. And for good reason. These things are godlike in their power. With V-Brakes you get wet noodle braking. With Hope Disc you get the manly testosterone braking you deserve. Ever wanted to do stoppies or find a need to actually stop on that mindbending downhill before you eat it at 40mph into a fallen tree? I put the DH4 on my front wheel and the open 2 on my back wheel (what am I, Mr. Money Bags?). These things will squeak a little bit at first but after a couple weeks of solid riding they'll whisper. Besides, the squeak tells everyone below you to GET OUT OF THE WAY OR BE MAULED! I used to tap on the brakes to give a heads up to hikers that otherwise would be oblivious of my approach. But alas! no more squeaking. Simply put, if you're going to buy disc brakes, don't wuss out and get some mechanical or crappy Hayes hydraulic. Get the real thing. Get the Hope. 5 flaming poops all around for the most outstanding piece of gear on my bike.
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Submitted by
STEVE DH
a Downhiller
from uk Date Reviewed: December 29, 2001
Favorite Trail:
nonr
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
n
Strengths:
They r hope. the look trick. r trick. perform trick. and stop fat blokes on a dime. when i meen fat i mean nutty professor fat. GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE 2.
Weaknesses:
let me think. let me think sum more. THINKIN. still THINKIN. nope. no weaknesses my fellow mountain bikers. ONLY POSITIVES.
Similar Products Used:
none. thougt of hayes but there reputaion is absolutly FOUL.
Bike Setup:
195 disc at the front dudes. 165 AT THE REAR
Bottom Line:
I am one who takes great notice in fine detail.stats etc. i only expect the finest. These r the finest. power. well were do i start. lets put it this way. they r so good that they could not only stop 1, but both of the planes from crashing in 2 the trade centres. contumplate that for a hour or 2. so its safe 2 assume that they will stop a mere mortal and his/her 50lb bike on a very steep, fast section of downhill. they are relly that good. go out and by these 2 put on ur mantale piece, such is the beauty and function of these. wat was that sayin. bueaty before function, now u can have both. by the way theY r relly controlable 2. hope make me sick. no one does it better. respect to the lanc's boys. keep up the good work.
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Submitted by
Mark
a Downhiller
from St. Albert, Alberta, Canada Date Reviewed: December 3, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Dag's DH at Silverstar
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Jenson USA
Strengths:
Tons more power than any other brake I've tried, great modulation and feel at the lever. They look wicked too.
Weaknesses:
A bit pricey(but they are worth it).
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, Magura, Shimano, Formula
Bike Setup:
2000 Specialized Team DH, Boxxer, Mavic D321s, Tioga 2.3 DH rubber, and the Hopes
Bottom Line:
If you want the best, get Hopes. They are more expensive, but the performance gain is more than worth it.
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Submitted by
rufus
a Downhiller
from Norway Date Reviewed: December 2, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Even better brakes
Weaknesses:
Differcult to find a fork to fit it to
Similar Products Used:
Normal, mortal disc brakes
Bike Setup:
Giant DH team, Manitou Dorado
Bottom Line:
In 1994/5 Hope made a double front disc brake system prototype. I WANT THIS! All those in favour e-mail this spot, or even better e-mail Hope and tell them!
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Submitted by
joE ???
a
from eng-er-land Date Reviewed: December 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
made of marzipan
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
winstanleys, wigan
Strengths:
unmatchable power looks fantastic its british makes all other disc brake manufacturers look WANK
Weaknesses:
£120 still aint pocket change
Similar Products Used:
maguras, hayes
Bike Setup:
kona stuff, 2k judy races etc....
Bottom Line:
there is nothing else on this planet that can really make it for power and looks. i dont care how much they cost in the US and canada, they shouldnt be so gay with prices to Britain for everything else 5/5 makes ya proud to be british
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Submitted by
Chris Herron
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney, Australia Date Reviewed: November 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
any downhill trail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
a bike shop
Strengths:
Awesome power and modulation. Great control when hitting dry dusty trails at speed. Can feel when the wheel is going to lock up. Strong levers, calipers and disks. All parts for levers and calipers can be ordered separately, very good when need repairing.
Weaknesses:
Gold pads squeal like hell. Will be grabbing the new red pads as soon as they are avail. in Oz.
Similar Products Used:
Hope sports, pros and hayes.
Bike Setup:
Giant AC1, 2000 Bombers CR, XTR driveline with Blackspire chain device, Hope hubs laced to Mavic 521's, Hope Enduros with 185mm rotors f/r, Azonic bars and stem, lock ons and 636's.
Bottom Line:
If you can spare the cash, these puppies are greatest in disk technology. Killer looks and with the power and modulation to match.
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Submitted by
don
a
from Newbury Park California USA Date Reviewed: October 29, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Sycamore Canyon loop/swithbacks
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$400.00
Strengths:
Reliable, good modulation, low maintenance, excellent one finger stopping power, Works excellent in water, mud, normal, cold conditions
Weaknesses:
Bleeding any disc brakes can be a pain fluid is toxic Putting the disc / hub / skewers onto bike takes patience Oil on the pads or rotor reduces braking Can burn you if you touch them after a long down hill run.
Similar Products Used:
Maggies HS 11 hs 22 hs 24
Bike Setup:
Animal 5 inches rear front ZR-QR20 130mm xtr atacs
Bottom Line:
Had them for two years with over 1500 miles on them. Still on the original pads. Squelled for the first 50 miles. I do absolutely no maintence (except H20 hose them off)on them and they are perfect. Excellent one finger modulation & stopping in any condition. Customer support is excellent. Best product I purchased in recent years. It is not light weight but it will definitely stop you !
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Submitted by
David
a Cross Country Rider
from Malvern,Worcs,U.K. Date Reviewed: September 23, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Back On Track
Strengths:
Enduro4 165mm front Power,Control,Customer service
Weaknesses:
None now, O.K. maybe a little less weight (ti bolts?)
I originally had problems with pad fade, hope sent me sintered pads (free)and I then managed to warp 3 disks in a row over a period of 3 months (I ride like a total loon,like 30mph stoppies and am heavy), hope have now fixed this problem with the 165mm disk and pads with a new design (free again)and the brakes are now preforming at their outstanding best.
If you want a high performance disk brake buy enduro4's
5 chili's for the brake,I'll forgive the problems as hopes' fast customer service mean't I didn't miss a single ride
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Submitted by
Jimmy R.
a Weekend Warrior
from Chico, Ca. Date Reviewed: July 26, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Jenson USA
Strengths:
Power, modulation, no fade, all the major parts are billet. Looks like bike jewelery.
You have to love stuff that works as advertised & looks trick to boot! Great product, Great cust. service.
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Brian
a Downhiller
from Kennebunk Date Reviewed: July 25, 2001
Favorite Trail:
there all good
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$239.00
Strengths:
I think the levers are very nice; they have nice pull. Also i think the disc looks ill.
Weaknesses:
I think mine is just funcked or something i have bleed them several times and they still have a delay.
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, Avid, Sram, Hope Mini, Magura Gustav and Clara
Bike Setup:
Intese Uzzi Dh Jr.T RaceFace/XT
Bottom Line:
I think this disc brake blows but by every one elses rating they must be good. That means mine are just funcked up!
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Submitted by
Jordan Harris
a Downhiller
from Victoria,BC,Canada Date Reviewed: July 16, 2001
Favorite Trail:
The bullit
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$410.00
Purchased At:
WestShore bike Shop
Strengths:
Everything The most power I have ever felt in a Disc. A hell of a lot better than Hayes. Its like a block of Alunnium no casting crap here like most other discs. The best modulation I have ever felt
Weaknesses:
It squeeks a bit but who cares because its the best disc in the world
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, grimeca, and Magura
Bike Setup:
Norco,Special crome Long travle Z-5's,Hayes MX-1 in for the rear,Hope up front,Sun rims, LX-XT.
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is that these are the best breaks out there. Don't buy hayes there good but not as good as these puppies. And these are not for u X-Country kids. Freeriders and Downhillers only. The caliper weights more than my hole Hayes MX-1 Rotor and Caliper.
Buy hope don't settle for anything else
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AZX AZX
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver Wa USA Date Reviewed: July 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$220.00
Purchased At:
Universalcycles Portland
Strengths:
Works right out of the box. Took 10 minutes to install. No funky sounds from it whatsoever. Not to mension the good looks.
Weaknesses:
None so far. Maybe to much money to spend for some people who wants to pay less. (less performance in return)
Similar Products Used:
Diatech disc for 2 years(worst pile of junk I ever had) throughing body parts at the wheel make a better brake
Bike Setup:
Haro MX3 98 frame. parts are currently changing everyday
Bottom Line:
They worked just as good as my friend's one year old Hayes the very first day I got it on my bike. But then I had to remind myself. Hey! they work even better after a couple of rides. If anyone is out there to get the best, or has post traumatic stress syndrome from bad brakes that doesn't work, then these brakes are for you. Happy trails.
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Submitted by
Matt Savage
a Cross Country Rider
from Towcester, Northants, UK Date Reviewed: July 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Aston Hill
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
Chain Reaction Cycles
Strengths:
Compartively low weight, Eye popping stopping power, modulation, Designed and built in UK, comes fully bled and ready to use, uses automotive brake fluid....
Weaknesses:
Ummm.... I lost the little grub screw that secures the reach adjustment. Will not fit with Y2K Manitou MARS C forks (Manitous fault not Hopes)
Similar Products Used:
Hope C2 (used on front due to compatability issue)
Bike Setup:
Y2K Marin Mount Vision with HopeXC hubs/517 rims,Easton EA70 Monkeylite bars
Bottom Line:
I went for discs for 1 reason, mud clearance. However, theres far more to it than that now. These babies allow you to brake later, have more confidence in stopping,my biking has improved 100% especially on technical/rooty downhills.
The Enduro 4 gives far better performance say the XC4 or the Formula B4 with hardly any weight penalty.
Support from Hope could not be better, I spent 30 minutes chatting to them on the phone about what brakes I should choose for my style of riding before they recomended their mid cost Enduro's, only weight freaks and racers should use the XC4 was their opinion, everyone else should go with either the Minis or the Enduro's.
Also they sent 2 replacement grub screws to me overnight top quality people who know how to look after their customers.
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Submitted by
roberto nacinovich
a Downhiller
from cleveland Date Reviewed: June 26, 2001
Favorite Trail:
whitetail (closed)
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$275.00
Purchased At:
bill bowers
Strengths:
great modulation, great power, sweet looks. banjo fittings are protected from front impact, super cool lightning bolts on rotors
Weaknesses:
bleeding process sucks- if you do it the way you're supposed to it locks it up. NO SUPPORT at races BIG MINUS. adjustment setscrews for lever reach crack, NO SUPPORT at races, parts are hard to come by, had 2 relatively new pads just fall off, NO SUPPORT at races.
Similar Products Used:
pro stops
Bike Setup:
karpiel armegeddon, mr. dirt, hopey
Bottom Line:
great brakes- best out there, but that doesn't mean squat if you're on your last practice run & snap something that can't be repaired because hope is too cheap to bring a trailer to a race to support their customers. you can't beat hayes' customer support and you can get parts everywhere. 3 chilies for lack of support (and these babies aren't cheap!)
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Micahel Hardy
a Cross Country Rider
from rhyl, north wales, UK Date Reviewed: June 24, 2001
Favorite Trail:
MBR, Coed-y-brenin
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
tangeable dream
Strengths:
this is for the enduro 4 Power,looks,no fade,modulation,lighter than C2's
Weaknesses:
rotor warped and dis-coloured after the first 2 week's use, bit of pad rattle using EBC gold's
Similar Products Used:
Hope O2's, C2's, XC4's(naff power to much pump), last years DH4(to heavy by far)
Bike Setup:
DS-1 16.5", Z4 100's, Hope XC ti hubs F519 rims, Enduro 4 185mm Front disk, XTR rear brake w/Carbon booster, XTR/XT drivetrain, Racface stem, seatpost and chainrings, Titec XC bars,Spesh BG comp saddle,PD-536 pedals, lock-on grips, total 28 LBS (approx)
Bottom Line:
Rotor turned hot enough to osolate side to side while coming down a steep road hill going home, still no fade or pump. Hope sent me a new one within 2 day's then the old one was sent back (i only have one bike and it does everything even commute.) pads were ruined so changed to EBC gold's. Since then the brake has been wonderfull constant power with a smooth bite, one finger use, 15 foot stoppie's downhill toward's traffic light's. than again it does that everwere you want it to. but all in all i love it and i intend to get one for the rear as well
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Eric
a Cross Country Rider
from Prescott, AZ Date Reviewed: June 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Mt. Lowe-Gabrielino Epic
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$560.00
Purchased At:
Airbomb.com
Strengths:
I've never had tham fade, ever, sick looking, billet everything, long wearing everything, fit out of the box, no bleeding. Fit my Hayes 6-bolt pattern hubs.
Weaknesses:
So much breaking that rotors squeak for a minute when cold and also when really hot, then pads adjust, and it's gone.
Similar Products Used:
Shimano disc, Hayes 6", Hayes 8", Cannondale disc
Bike Setup:
Non-production blue 2001 Schwinn 4-banger, Millenium 5" front shock, Stratos 5" rear shock conversion, Carbon Monkey bar and post, Azonic/WF "Cullinan" shorty stem, Race Face Team SL head set, Sweet Wings crank with Ti chainrings, Gripshift ESP900 and rear der., Hadley disc 20mm front Hub w/Velocity 440 rim by DAVES WHEELS, Hugi 240 disc rear Hub w/Velocity rim by DAVES WHEELS, Homegrown headset cap and seatpost clamp for style.
Bottom Line:
Yes, the DH4 is the best disc brake on earth right now, period. I used them on an 29 lb. XC freerider, and any 100 lb. rider would enjoy the effortless stopping as much as my 190 lbs. They have more power than needed, but never too much due to the moto-like modulation, meaning they actually modulate, as opposed to the others which come on to fast. HOPE customer service was friendly, heads above Hayes, not to mention shimano. The customer service at Airbomb.com was the best I've ever had on the net. The brakes fit and functioned better than all the other disc's I've used, with zero setup. Visually sicker than everything else. Ajustable reach that really adjusts. Self adjusting pistons. Harder rotors than all the others.
Finally, one finger breaking (front wheelies), honestly these brakes are the best gear I've ever used and I ride better and SAFER because of them. I could care less what they weigh. My freeride 5-banger is still sub 29 lbs.
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eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Tucson Date Reviewed: June 14, 2001
kick ass brakes. It's used for every kinda of riding I do. Thinking of converting to disc/hydro this is the way to go. VERY LOW MAINTANCE!!!
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Submitted by
Steve
a Downhiller
from Pleasanton Date Reviewed: May 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Tractor trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$320.00
Purchased At:
Kalo MTB
Strengths:
UNBEATABLE POWER,looks,modulation,setup is under 30 minuets,you can change the front and rear pads in 10 minuets, and they look cooler than other discs.
Weaknesses:
The only thing I could say is they squeal a little bit after you wash your bike
Similar Products Used:
Had Grimeca,tried Hays,Shimmano
Bike Setup:
Storm Thunder, 01 inverted Hanebrink g-7 LT,full XTR,WTB Laserdisc DH rims,Hays F hub,Chris king R hub and headset & dh04's front and rear.
Bottom Line:
The most POWERFUL brakes on the market, people that own Hayes say there the best-until they try Hope DH4's just ONCE!
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Submitted by
Alex Gunn
a Downhiller
from Northants, England Date Reviewed: May 4, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Hopton
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
Julies
Strengths:
Power, power, power, oh, and did i mention, POWER!!
Weaknesses:
fitting can be tricky, weight, but that is not important
Similar Products Used:
hope O2, Hayes.
Bike Setup:
Rotwild RDH03, RST 8inch up-side downs, mrp, hope on D521
Bottom Line:
Power, no fade, power, looks, easy to service, power. the main thing with these brakes is power, stronger than any other brakes i have tried.
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Gareth Roberts
a Downhiller
from Derby UK Date Reviewed: April 12, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
halfords uk
Strengths:
Extreme power!!!!! Extreme power and erm extreme power!!!!! Nuff said.... Seriously these brakes will blow your mind... a job well done by hope.. revolutionary design, manufacture and performance.
Weaknesses:
Slight rubbing but bearable.
Similar Products Used:
Hope open 2
Bike Setup:
Pace frame. middleburn/XTR spec. Monster T Forks. Pace stem. Azonic bars. Hope big un /Mavic 521, Titanium spokes. Pauls components R/mech.
Bottom Line:
Extreme power at a cool price.... get some NOW!!! If you want raw power combinded with exelent control... buy them... you'll be impressed.
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melvyn
a Downhiller
from Sydney Date Reviewed: April 1, 2001
Favorite Trail:
loftus
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Build quality., looks, PERFORMANCE., reliability, they stop, not fade or lock up (unless you want em to), they set up easily, and are reasonably light. Also, they dont leak normal DOT fluid, and they dont have mounting adaptors.
Well i put these on, and they have changed my style of riding, you can brake quicker & later, demolishing any line you take, more confidence at high speed. They are one finger stoppas, leaving the other four for better uses on the bars. They are the best upgrade for any serious rider!
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Fly Sports bikes
a Downhiller
from USA Date Reviewed: January 30, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
OEM
Strengths:
These are some of the best brakes we've used. They are like mini brembos; and the rotors are cool too. modulation is great, like they have ABS on them. Reasonable weight.easy to bleed, and durable. The best, thats why we put them on our best
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, shimano/grimeca
Bike Setup:
Frame: Fly Sports: PLUSH; Fork: Zokes, Mr.T Componentry:full raceface/XTR WHeel set hope/mavic/ti spoke, with hope dh4 brakes
Bottom Line:
no question, if you want the best, get these.
Mike Danger WWW.FLY-SPORTS.COM "Pedal to the Mettle"
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Luke Hyslop
a Racer
from New Zealand Date Reviewed: January 26, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Wheelpro (UK)
Strengths:
I've got the enduro which is the new DH4. Extremely powerful. Great modulation. Reasonably light. (The enduro, not the DH4). Handles the heat.
Weaknesses:
Drags very slightly but this is supposed to come right after a while.
Similar Products Used:
Rim brakes only though tried magura louise, magura Gustav M and hayes.
Bike Setup:
Wheeler 7900zx hardtail frame. Manitou SXRs. Enduro on the front (175mm rotor). V-brake on the back.
Bottom Line:
I only got this brake today and haven't even worn it in properly but it is still more powerful than anything else I've tried. I'll post more when I've used it for a few months. About 30grams lighter than an 8 inch hayes. This brake is light enough for XC and is unbeatable for downhill. Heaps of rotor sizes available. Had a bit of trouble getting the hope rotor on a magura louise hub but that was more to do with the hub than the rotor (had to modify the hub). The rest of the setup was easy. This brake is awesome - nothing else even comes close.
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Craig Boyns
a Downhiller
from bournemouth England Date Reviewed: January 17, 2001
Favorite Trail:
team Animal trails
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$140.00
Purchased At:
hope tecnology
Strengths:
I'v actually got the new enduro 4 which is the replacment for the dh4 modulation is spot on power is emence (even feels more than the DH4) it's smaller, lighter, more compact and easy to set up I have the very new 205mm disc with my name CNC'd in to it. also hope could'nt have been more helpful, also they havent yet pumped out even though I,v had the discs glowing
Weaknesses:
they did drag a bit but once they bed in it stops, they also squilled alot but a little copper slip on the back of the pads sorted that out. I did'nt go for the braided hoses so no problem there.
Similar Products Used:
hope DH4s, XC4s, also Hayes and Shimano crap
Bike Setup:
Orange Patiot, boxxers, bulbs, mavic D521s, DT double butted spokes and of cource enduro 4s
Bottom Line:
Sh1t hot brakes for a sh1t hot bike!!!!!!
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Submitted by
Matt Vibert
a Racer
from Wellington, New Zealand Date Reviewed: January 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Waiterere
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$730.00
Purchased At:
J'ville Cycles
Strengths:
These brakes if your pull too hard you go over but i'm just a light height XC racer. These brakes are cool as. Great stopping power and great handeling aswell. These Brakes will look after you
Great performers and not too over priced GO GET EM
Matt
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Submitted by
chris
a Downhiller
from England Date Reviewed: November 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
exerlent stopping power, better feel if you bin the gold pads and use the green ones.
Weaknesses:
Well my disc's turned blue after a 50mph - 0 stop, they also warped but returned to normal after cooling down
Similar Products Used:
Hope Pro
Bike Setup:
M1-SL, boxxers, hope bulbs with 321's. ETC
Bottom Line:
Exerlant brakes for full on DH. Feel very good and good modulation.
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Submitted by
Oliver Chamberlain
a Downhiller
from Nottingham Date Reviewed: September 26, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Ambergate Rock Garden
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes
Strengths:
This brake has incredible stopping power. Modulation is good and a 2 year old would probabilly be able to lock a wheel up with these babies.
Weaknesses:
On my brakes bleeding the brakes were a real problem as the lever just about bit when it was touching the bars. A quick return to hope was all that was needed and then they really started to peform. Also the rear rear caliper had to be changed as the seals on one side of the caliper were too tight and the pistons weren`t moving. They squeel ALOT! and the quality of the recent 4-pots doesn`t seem to be as high as the first production models.
Similar Products Used:
Magura HS33. Magura Louise Disks. XTR V-Brakes. Hayes disk brakes.
Bike Setup:
Trek vrx 400 with judy xlc forks, esp 9.0, azonic bars, d521`s etc.
Bottom Line:
These are top brakes if you can afford them and put up with the squeeling. Also bleeding should be left to the shop so I recommend getting them fitted at the shop.
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Submitted by
Sam White
a Weekend Warrior
from Norwich, Norfolk, England Date Reviewed: September 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Mousehold
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Power! Still not fully bedded in yet but they keep getting better!! Hope are ace when it comes to support. They had to machine me a custom 175mm rotor because the mount on my frame was slightly in the wrong place but they sorted a new rotor in like 4 days. Theyve also got braided hoses like the new XT discs so they look cool, and the calipers are really fat and look great with 4 individual pads in them!
Weaknesses:
I had to buy new forks coz my old 98 Bombers had two formula mounts instead of an International Standard one! Boo Hoo.
Similar Products Used:
Magura HS-33, Louise Discs, XT-Vs, LX-Vs, ATM theyre as good as a well bedded in Louise setup but give mine a few more days use.......
Bike Setup:
Coyote DH-1 ('98), Marzocchi Junior T's (2000), 2.3 Factory DHs, Hope Big'Un Hubs, Identiti Halo Combat rims, DMR V12s, etc etc Azonic etc Pro Levers 185mm F 175mm R
Bottom Line:
Get a job at Halfords youll save a few quid using staff discount when you buy them. Mine do squeal a bit, but then theyre not bedded in yet (i only managed to fit the back yesterday) They go on really easily, I didnt need any shims or washers on the front, the caliper was centered right over the disc - brill THEY LOOK COOL. not that it matters much (yeah right) the lever feel is really good. probally not much good on an XC bike....
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Submitted by
Felix
a Weekend Warrior
from Walnut, CA, USA Date Reviewed: September 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anything kinda fast and kinda technicle
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
-Super stoping power -Great modulation -Good looks -best brakes availible -infinite amount of adjustment
Weaknesses:
for the people who dont like squeeling, this brake makes a little bit of noise....but whats so good about a quiet bike???
Similar Products Used:
Hayes Hydro's, Magura hydro rim, XTR v brakes, Avid V brakes, Shimano XT Discs
Bike Setup:
Cheeta Proline DH, white bros DH2, maxxis tires, shimano XTR
Bottom Line:
These brakes are the best you can buy. These brakes are so adjustable!!! These brakes are way better then Hayes hydro's. Many magazines do not know that Hope also makes different compound pads. Buy these brakes, and you won't regret it. i give 10 chilis for value and overall rating.
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Submitted by
Blake
a Downhiller
from Santa Cruz Date Reviewed: August 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Hollister
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
These brakes are extremely powerful, I mean extremely powerful! They also have great modulation and look cool.
Weaknesses:
nothing
Similar Products Used:
other Hope products
Bike Setup:
K2-Beast with hanebrinks and mavic d-521s.
Bottom Line:
These brakes are extremely powerful and I would not reccomend these to people under 120 lbs. because they might not be able to keep the bike down when using the front brake, otherwise get these brakes because they will control your bike with the greatest of ease.
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Submitted by
[ phiber ]
a Downhiller
from Vienna, Austria Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
incredible stopping power. beautyfull machinery. the pro levers are the best period! easy to set up.
Weaknesses:
very poor manual...(for the price of this brake i want a manual hustler mag. style..babes would be nice too)..ok..lets just say that 04manual is a joke
Similar Products Used:
Gustav M, Luise, Hayes 99, Formula (loosers)
Bike Setup:
BSX stylee
Bottom Line:
this brakes are very good!..I don´t think that they are "too" strong for anyone...they are just fine! stopping you from every speed with one finger...front wheeles will get so sick and long that you will allmost think your forks gonna crack!...did I say great modulation?
I did not bleed them since I got those O4´s and they are working really well...the lever pulls close to the handlebar so I first thought I will have to bleed it but do one ride and you will realize that after 3mm´s they start to grab the disk and over the whole lever travel you can modulate d@mn smooth.. BTW don´t expect too much from the first few braking manuvers...let it bed in..you will be surprised. f buy those brakes if u can afford them....
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Submitted by
StuntsKid
a Downhiller
from Sheffield, South Yourks, England Date Reviewed: July 21, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Excellent powerfull stoppers from a UK company with excellent tech support at the UK races - NAMBS and NPS.
Weaknesses:
Cost? (got mine cheap!) Possibly too powerfull for anything other than DH racing.
Similar Products Used:
Hope Pro, Hope Sport, XTR V's, Magura, Formulas
Bike Setup:
Raleigh DHO, Boxxers, Big UN Hubs, Azonic bars - you get the picture. See DH bike page of 'racing' on www.stunts.org.uk for a proper pic!
Bottom Line:
I got the Hopes through the mail from Rob at Singletrack on a Saturday morning. The postie nearly fell through the door as I ripped it open and signed the form before he had finished knocking! The discs slapped on no trouble. The rear hose was cut to route through the frame. Being lazy I still have not bled it since then and they are still going fine. After a 'digital' spell while they were bedding in they calmed down with a hand from some Yorkshire mud. Excellent stopping power and modulation without any fluid pump (even down Morzine and the Welsh Dragons).
'Da Bomb'.
www.stunts.org.uk
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Submitted by
Gordon
a Downhiller
from Hartford, CT USA Date Reviewed: July 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Plattekill @Roxbury,NY, Mtn. Creek @ Vernon, NJ
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
EASY as hell TO SET UP. Only took 30 mins to set up. NO power bleeder needed, just some wrenches and two people-You don't have to be a brain surgeon to set these babys up! These brakes are STRONG AS HELL! A little better than my hayes brake. cheap too-at least for me(got 'em for half price from my sponsor).
Weaknesses:
Just a tad bit of drag-I will admit. But once I rode them a bit the drag went away. They came with the brake hose about a foot too short, so I ordered more, but its not like its the end of the world or anything.
Similar Products Used:
Tektro V's, Hayes discs, Magura Hyraulic rim brakes(HS-33)
Bike Setup:
1997 SPOOKY Project X Prototype frame, Hanebrink LT-9, Chris king headset, Azonic bar and stem, Sun Doublewide rims(26 front and 24 rear), Nokian(f) and Arrow(r) tires, MRP chain guide, Grip shift transmission(Custom cut half-pipe shifter), Risse Terminator shock w/ air assist, custom made rear disc adapter, hanebrink hub(front), Hope big 'un hub(rear).
Bottom Line:
I love 'em!!! I was able to custom make a rear disc adapter using stock aluminum from a hardware store(made two and bolted 'em together)-My frame IS a prototype which means that sometimes you gotta go the extra mile,but thats besides the point here. These are easy to use and easy to maintain. The DH4's pack a ton of stopping power and work great in all conditions. Everything about the brakes makes it user-friendly. Great fun to use and well worth the cash even if you don't get 'em through a sponsor like I did. I like the brake alot, ESPECIALLY for those SICK PLATTEKILL courses(WORLD CUP caliber courses). If you ride DH alot and/or in the mud alot, I'd get these brakes. They're a little heavy for XC use, but it may be worth the extra weight-If you really think it matters THAT much, maybe you should stop trying to take weight off your bike and start riding more-duh!! These brakes are worth a try at the least. If you have the chance(and the cash), go for it and buy a pair now!!
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Submitted by
Allan Stewart
a Downhiller
from Patterson, Ny , USA Date Reviewed: May 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
DH style, yo
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Great looks, excellent company, killer stopping power, pre bled/ cut line for front, VERY strong bolts/mounts, cool disc design, best disc lever PERIOD.
Weaknesses:
not openly spyder-capable, only mounts standard(whateverr, right?)doesnt come in red
Similar Products Used:
Hayes disc, Hope 02, v brakes (xtr,xt,lx), Magura hydro,
I bought the front wheel setup from Cambira BO, and it came with a Hayes Standard rotor(6bolt) and i had a spider 5 bolt Hope Bulb hub. I had to redrill the mounts on my fork, because they were not aligned correctly, i don't know why. All of this was not Hope's problem--- overall great brake, great deal, buy them RIGHT NOW!
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Submitted by
Philip
a Weekend Warrior
from Truro, Cornwall, England Date Reviewed: April 15, 2000
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Power, low weight, pathetically easy to setup(you just bolt them on), no fade, good value at present, no maintenance.
Weaknesses:
If you go through lots of deep water with using the brakes, the next time you use them the brakes take a little time to bite(but this is something that would happen with all brakes).
Similar Products Used:
LX V Brake, Hope disks (what are now known as the hope 02 sports)
Bike Setup:
GT STS_1500_DS, Marzocchi Jr T, Hope 04(Fr), Hope 02(R), Sun Double Wide 24", Shimano LX/XT, Azonic 0 degree stem.
Bottom Line:
Firstly, the person who said they have had these brakes 3 years, I got my Hope 04's one year ago, 2 months before they went into general release(go figure).
These brakes are very powerful, and I bought them because of the things I had heard about other disk brakes, but as I have had no long term experience with these other brakes I am in no position to comment. Also as I live in England there are no hills to really test these brakes, therefore I can't comment on heat build up and such like. What I do know is that since I put these on May 1999, I haven't bothered to touch them and they still run as they did when they were first worn in. I never find myself wanting more power, and always find the way the power is delivered perfectly. Those who complain about lack of modulation probably make thier full suspensions bob too, because they don't use them properly, all you have to do is adapt your style.
Everyone who can afford these brakes should own them.
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Submitted by
QuasiEvil
a Downhiller
from NY Date Reviewed: April 7, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Strength, Modulation, Good Looks,
Weaknesses:
None so far
Similar Products Used:
Hayes Hydros, Magura rims, XT Vs, Avid Arch Supreme
Bike Setup:
Titus QuasiMoto, Jr T, Hope 04DHs, Rhyno Lite/BULB wheelset
Bottom Line:
These brakes are great. They are fairly easy to set up, and have incredible power right from the start. They do have to bed in, and only get stronger. I was suprised at the good modulation these brakes have. I can still lock up both wheels with a single finger though. Hope is also a great company to deal with. These brakes are defintely the way to go for any downhiller or freerider. And to the reviewer below, why post a review when you havent even ridden the brakes yet?
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Submitted by
Steven
a
from Baton Rouge LA USA Date Reviewed: March 30, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Bottom Line:
I read one of the reviews that said that dot 5.1 brake fluid was hard to find. I don't run disk on my bike, but I do use dot 5.1 in my 92 KX 250 moto-x dirtbike. The best and most avalible brake fluid that I found is called "MOTUL". I can be found at most moto-x shops. Give it a try.
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Submitted by
Smiff
a Downhiller
from Birmingham, Great Britain! Date Reviewed: February 10, 2000
Favorite Trail:
North York Moors, near Rosedale
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Excellently machined, well designed and all round perfection. Open system -no drag ever (if you set them up right). The best modulation and power of any MTB disc in the world and there also very Reliable, I've had them for a while now and I haven't once had to touch them -which is kinda frustratin as I love to fiddle with stuff! The hope people are aslo very friendly and way helpful. Finally they're excellent value when you consider they're only 10 quid more than bloody Hayes at my local bike shop.
Weaknesses:
I notice a few people say they're a bit fiddly to setup, but hell compared to tuning ya forx up! (I own WB UD180s -which are good but a pain to tune-up).
Similar Products Used:
Hope Sports (before they were called sports), Pros, XC4, Hayes, Formula, Pro-Stop -all hydraulic.
Bike Setup:
Orange Mr.O with WB UD180s and Fox Vanilla RC
Bottom Line:
Why the hell Tom and Brad from Surrey are bagging these brakes for I don't know! Brad's had them for 3 years -How? They've only been on sale for less than a year and I noticed Toms put his LX Vs back on his C'Dale SV DH -I'd love to know how, 'cos I've still got my old SV DH4000 and there's no brake bosses front or rear to put them on??? The Surrey two are spouting BS, ignore them, it's the lack of hills in Surrey!
Anyway I've rode tons of different brakes and I know a bit about engineering too, as I'm mastering in Automotive Engineering (prrrp!) and these brakes are the best yet. They're faultless if (and that's a big if) you setup them up properly, like everything in engineering; the better you set things up the better they perform. So do your self a favour; if your not to handy as a bike mechanic get a good shop to put 'em on ya bike and you'll have the best braking system in the world, now there's something to brag about with ya trail mates! Bouyakka!
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Submitted by
MIKE SEYMOUR
a Downhiller
from KNOXVILLE , TN Date Reviewed: February 7, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Sugar mtn
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Great installation -read directions,it's not hard to bleed them!---powerfull on the first ride-I LOVE THEM..The open type system is great.
Weaknesses:
Can't find any at all !
Similar Products Used:
Dia tech cable and hayesThey both worked?
Bike Setup:
Marin B-17 -Monster T --Mavic 321's--
Bottom Line:
The people at HOPE are helpful and friendly.These brakes are a real joy to look at and use..I can't wait to race with them
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Submitted by
haZZard
a Downhiller
from Arcata CA USA Date Reviewed: January 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Tish Tang, northern california
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
superior power, precise modulation, no fade. light too. and, they look so good!
Weaknesses:
expensive
Similar Products Used:
2 years with the latest Magura hydraulics, tested many different Hayes and Magura hydraulic discs.
Bike Setup:
99 stinky deelux, Marzocci bombers, Mavic 321's, Fox Vanilla RC
Bottom Line:
these are the best brakes I've ever ridden. many of the downhill trails we ride out here are 5 miles or more in length. we also happen to live in a rain forest. I have never experienced water nor heat failure. Have a bike shop set them up, one with disc experience. They are sensitive, and require a little experience to get right. one of my rotors arrived slighlt warped, but I had to race that weekend, so I rode with them anyway. Not a problem. But you'll want to check carefully upon arrival. The best part about the brakes is the increased confidence while flying. you know that you can stop. It's worth a couple of seconds on a fast course, for sure. So far, they have been worth every penny. Just don't let your girlfriend try them. especially if she has an upcoming birthday. especially if she's gorgeous. (and loves to ride.) they'll set you back a fair bit! Trust me on this.
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Submitted by
Alex Kerr
a Weekend Warrior
from England Date Reviewed: January 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Woburn, Streets
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Huge Power, Easy to set up, Wonderful levers
Weaknesses:
Small amouts of drag, Squeek
Similar Products Used:
Pros, Rim Brakes
Bike Setup:
Trials - XT stuff, middleburn RS7s, club roost stinger
Bottom Line:
Could stop an elephant in a transit van.
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Submitted by
Napalm
a Downhiller
from Scotland Date Reviewed: December 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Innerleithen
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Power Modulation No pump-up Relatively well priced It's Hope Quality
Weaknesses:
Little difficult to set up Takes about 3 hard rides to bed in
Similar Products Used:
Hope Pro, Sport Rim brakes aarrrh!!
Bike Setup:
Coyote will 6 inch travel Stratos MX6 forks XTR cranks Goldtech etc
Bottom Line:
Don't listen to the guys below. Honestly Hope have got this thing sorted. The mountings are bomb proof, the guy below probably does not even own them. They are the best brakes I have ever used. Mine came with not enough oil in them but that was easily resolved. They come with Gold pads which is very good as the normal Pro's only come with Green. Hang on until the Shimano ones come out and these babies will be sooooo cheap and such a good buy then. Don't bother with the Shimano ones, remember all the hassle you had with their V brakes? They still have not got them right, just think of all the hassle you will have with their disks. First reports are that the Shimano have been having to alter the disk mounts on nearly every bike they have tried them on!! With Hope you just use a couple of spacers. A bit fiddly but who cares, the best things come to those who wait.The bottom line is that these are amazing, I used them at Innerleithen in the worst mud you could ever imagine and they were as powerful as in the dry. Get these NOW, or save money and get them in March. Buy the best, avoid the rest.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Cross-Country Rider
from Golden, CO Date Reviewed: November 3, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Any
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
High quality feel Beautiful Levers with split perch.
Weaknesses:
$$$$$ Pain to set up $$$$$
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Ventan El Conquistador Tandem
Bottom Line:
These are great brakes, once they are set up. To set them up, you must play with shims to get the caliper centered over the rotor. The clearance is so tight, the shims are about 0.1mm thick. On the rear, I had to go buy some shims, because I just couldn't get the ones supplied to work. Then I had to bleed them. They are supposed to be ready to bolt on from the factory, but my front went all the way to the bars, and the rear was very squishy. They take a special, impossible to find brake fluid called DOT 5.1, which I had to order from Hope. It then took about five tries, but we finally got them bled. Once they were sorted, they work great, although I haven't really pushed them on a long descent yet. The modulation is great, and they seem to have all the power needed to bring our tandem to a quick stop. The real test will be a long hard descent. They do heat up when pushed hard, so I'll have to see if they fade away, or hang in. One other problem. The rear brake line is too long. Shortening it means another round of bleeding, so I'll just wait until they need to be bled again. Four chilis instead of five, because I have to believe there is some kind of mounting system that would not require shims, and would allow easy centering. It would take some innovation sure, but for the cost these should be absolutely perfect.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from England Date Reviewed: October 20, 1999
Favorite Trail:
that quarry in wales that is hard to spell
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
open design so when your system hots up they do not lock onto the disc they re-ajust
Weaknesses:
price and hose fittings are very weak !
Similar Products Used:
hope sport and hope pro
Bike Setup:
The Best !
Bottom Line:
if you want no worry stopping power even on the longest of courses buy them if you still think v brakes are good enough then take up jogging because mountain biking technology is advancing so keep up or drop out !
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Submitted by
Andy Wray
a Downhiller
from Elloughton Date Reviewed: October 7, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Our Secret DH course at Langdale Forest Yorkshire England
Ok I think this is as far as anyone should take disk brakes on a bike. They are the most powerful brakes you can buy for a mountain bike. The Quality is the best there is. If you are buying a downhill bike make sure you spec these babies.CAN YOU HANDLE THE POWER ?
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Submitted by
Phat
a Downhiller
from new york new york Date Reviewed: August 25, 1999
Favorite Trail:
plattakill
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
light and strong could stop a truck on a dime no heat fade no disk warp (unlike hayes) Consistent feel(unlike hayes)
Weaknesses:
expensive
Similar Products Used:
Hayes formula
Bike Setup:
m1 monster t raceface cranks/bb/h-set hope bigguns/321 etc
Bottom Line:
simply the best a six star
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Submitted by
RDP
a Weekend Warrior
from LA California Date Reviewed: August 24, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
good quality its all ready to go no bleeding the system strong braking
Similar Products Used:
Coda
Bike Setup:
super V freeride
Bottom Line:
It stops great there is no fade and no expanding of the fluid all breaking is done with a half inch pull on the lever. I burnt up a Coda disc brake they said I was to big and they are not meant for going downhill (one and half miles) I weigh 260 lbs.
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