Tunable positive and negative air springs // External rebound adjustment // Low-friction PTFE 30 mm aluminum upper tubes // Travel: 80* or 100 mm // Spring/Damping System: Hydra Air
Submitted by
david
a Cross Country Rider
from san antonio, texas Date Reviewed: May 11, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
bikeworld-alamo heights
Strengths:
fairly lightweight and it is relatively stiff doesn't flex as much as a race or other highend fork
Weaknesses:
i would say zero, just got it back from the shop after it's first rebuild, it is five years old after all.
Similar Products Used:
judy xc, wish I still had it.
Bike Setup:
litespeed fixed up nice
Bottom Line:
most excellent fork it has lasted five years and still going
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Submitted by
chino
a Cross Country Rider
from ca Date Reviewed: August 6, 2005
Favorite Trail:
vail lake temecula
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
came with bike from KHS
Weaknesses:
The fork leaked air pressure after a half dozen rides. I had to pump it up about once every ten days. The fork broke at the dropout.
Similar Products Used:
X-fly 100, Fox float 100 RL
Bike Setup:
KHS EXT pro, lots of upgrades.
Bottom Line:
I was riding along a rolling, high speed decent (approx 25-30mph)with 3-4 foot drops when the fork snapped near the dropout. I tacoed the front wheel and barely escaped serious injury. KHS provided me with a new wheel and replaced the fork with a Marzocchi X-fly 100 free of charge. Great fork! Better in every way. I was told that this wasn't the first Rockshox Duke SL that had failed in this manner. Also, that it was easier to retrofit my bike with another fork than to wait 3 months for warranty service. I've been riding on the X-fly for the last 2 1/2 years with no problems.
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Submitted by
Joaquin
a Cross Country Rider
from New Jersey Date Reviewed: April 27, 2005
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
EBAY
Strengths:
Light weight for a 100mm travel fork. Smooth and realiable.
Weaknesses:
Blew the seals after two years. But I guess i really pushed it for two years without getting the shock serviced.
Similar Products Used:
SID long travel, Manitou x-vert
Bike Setup:
Specialized FSR pro
Bottom Line:
My bike came with a SID long travel. I was simply not producing the claimed 100mm of travel and it was not plush at all. I got myself a the DUKE sl with 100mm and let me tell you, plush plush plush. Love the fork, still going great.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Central, NJ Date Reviewed: August 22, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$169.00
Purchased At:
supergo
Strengths:
Kinda light, can get a good deal online, the stupid rockshox stickers fall off which improves the aesthetics
Weaknesses:
Seals (or something) blew, RockShox has had the fork for a month now, still no word.
Similar Products Used:
Judy TT, Marzocchi MX Comp, Marzocchi Z4
Bike Setup:
Rockhopper FSR
Bottom Line:
This fork was a great improvement over the crap Judy that came with my bike, and it's relatively light. I have to say after reluctantly switching to a Marzocchi MX Comp after the Duke blew out mid-season, the Duke kinda sucks in comparison. The Marzocchi goes straight over all kinds of stuff that made the Duke bounce around like a pogo stick. I found it harder to hold my line on technical climbs with the Duke and had tried several setups. The Duke is OK if you're on a budget and you get a deal, and it's a worthy upgrade if you're riding a real sh*t fork - if it doesn't break you can ride all kinds of stuff with it, but the (chearper MSRP) Marzocchi blows it away.
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Submitted by
stevo
a Weekend Warrior
from worcs , uk Date Reviewed: August 19, 2003
Favorite Trail:
brecon beacons
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
Light fork for the travel and performance, looks cool and is very stiff
Weaknesses:
rebound adjuster not reliable but see note below. Perhaps a slight loss of low speed sensitivity but also see note below.
Similar Products Used:
2000 rs sid xc , 2001 rs sid xc,
Bike Setup:
2001 Klein attitude,raceface turbines,hope pro discs,cane creek thudbuster and these babies
Bottom Line:
Overall - coming from a sid these dukes are very stiff and feel almost bottomless although the sids for the weight benefits are great, if you want cush and stiff why buy a sub 3ib fork and then complain of flex - get realistic folks!
The only weak point seems to be the rebound adjuster, after a while it seems to stop working HOWEVER this happened on my sid's when it happens don't whinge, instead get it to a REPUTABLE fork specialist (Tim Flooks here in the UK) and get it rebuilt for approx £65 which includes getting fixed damping installed instead of the adjuster, they will come back far, far plusher and more reliable than from the factory. Overall a brilliant, great looking fork for sensible money, I do a lot of 20-30 mile day rides and have not been let down
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Submitted by
dookie b
a Cross Country Rider
from riverside ca usa Date Reviewed: July 31, 2003
Favorite Trail:
hmmm?
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
woodcrest bikes
Strengths:
solid black, it works, it works good, fair weight to stiffness ratio.
Weaknesses:
hmmmm? dont know
Similar Products Used:
judys, bombers, manitous.
Bike Setup:
03 nrs 2, 02 duke sl, mavic disc wheels, avid mechs, xt hubs, easton carbon riser, xt drivetrain, titec post, selle italia seat, kore stem.
Bottom Line:
I got this fork when they first came out. It has been transfered to a second bike during this time. I weigh in at about 200 and ride 4 to 5 times a week on it. I have never had any problems with this fork. I dont constantly perform maintenance on it. I just keep the area around the seals clean. It doesnt leak any air or any oil. It has a nice progressive feel, supple at the top, and then stiffens up through the travel. The rebound adjustment works. When I screw it all the way in it returns very slowly, when screwed out it returns fast. I run it just short of snapping back. I ride aggresivly, but I know that the fork is intended for xc use, and I dont expect it to handle anything very extreme. I occasionaly take 3 footers no problem, no bottoming. I ride through rock gardens no problem. I have complete confidence in this fork. 4 flammers just because I know a marz or fox would be a true 5, but this a good probuct.
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Submitted by
RM
a Weekend Warrior
from SoCal Date Reviewed: June 6, 2003
Favorite Trail:
San Juan Trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$225.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Decent price, fairly light.
Weaknesses:
Busihing slop developed after 6 months! Rebound damping doesn't provide enough range of adjustment.
Similar Products Used:
Fox Float, various Marzocchi & Manitou forks, Judy SL, Duke XC, Duke C.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Blur, XT/XTR.
Bottom Line:
I originally bought this fork to replace a 2001 Judy SL which was a real piece of junk. When the Duke SL was new, it provided better feel and more precise steering than the Judy. But after about two to three months I noticed it started to loosen up. I bought a Blur frame two months ago and transferred the almost-new Duke fork to the new frame thinking the 100mm Duke would be a good match. During our last race at Laguna Seca, I noticed the fork was packing up a bit on some of the high speed runs and attributed it to the damping but found out the bushings were toast. This sucks considering the fork is only about 6 months old.
I have recently replaced the Duke with a Fox Float which is the fork I should have started with on the Blur. The Duke is going back to Rockshox for service under warranty (I hope). I really didn't want to buy another fork right in the middle of the season, but Rockshox is not too consistent when it comes to turning around their warranty repairs and I didn't want to be without a bike for two to three months. I will not hold my breath waiting for Rockshox to return it.
If you have ever have had a warranty issue with Rockshox, you know that you cannot send it back to them directly rather you need to go through a local retailer. I bought a fork for my son's bike through Colorado Cyclist on the web last summer and it failed. Colorado Cyclist told me I would have to contact Rockshox for warranty service who in turn told me to work with a LBS. The LBS didn't take too kindly to sending back my mail-order fork. It took 2 months to get it back.
This is my last Rockshox product. Every fork I have owned so far (six of them) and one SID Race rear shock have all failed within a year and needed to be repaired. I am a XC rider and do not abuse my stuff. I perform all recommended service and take care of my gear. Rockshox's customer support is horrible and in the long run I have paid out way more than I should have on this crap.
I usually don't write such negative reviews but Rockshox has earned it. Buy this fork if you ride local paved and dirt bike trails that are smooth. Forget it if you are looking for a decent XC fork that you can count on for occasional racing duty or for real MTB trails and technical stuff.
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Submitted by
PM
a
from Park City, UT usa Date Reviewed: June 2, 2003
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
100 mil air travel fork at a reasonable price with good performance characteristics...
Weaknesses:
1/4 turn rebound damping knob...
Similar Products Used:
Mars Air
Bike Setup:
Kona Bear/Duke 100 mil air...
Bottom Line:
This fork (2002) is a rockin deal. The new 03 Duke SL is $400, and it isn't much different than the 02 Duke air 100. I have ridden this fork for a year. No leaks, no problems, and great performance, but only AFTER I changed the oil viscosity. The 1/4 turn rebound adjuster didn't seem to work at all. I drained both the damping oil and the semi-bath oil, replacing it with 7.5 wt marzocchi fork oil, and WALAH!!!! The fork damping adjuster now actually works.(I have it set close to full "open") This oil change is no easy task (download instr. from RockShox) but made a HUGE difference in damping characteristics. Worth the whole 2 hrs it took to do it. (remove the fork completely from your frameset) If you can get one of these 2002 duke airs from a mail order co, GET IT!!!! It is one great riding 4" travel air fork....
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Submitted by
dmitry
a Cross Country Rider
from NYC Date Reviewed: May 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
anything and everything
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$190.00
Purchased At:
phattire.com or something like that
Strengths:
durable, low maintenance item, has enough modulation to set it up the way you like it, everything stated below...
Weaknesses:
the plastic cap is a pain to take off unless you try my method(read below). this fork is not plush if you weigh under 150 pounds. stickers did fall right off but who needs them.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
GT Zaskar Team with lots of goodies
Bottom Line:
This is a great fork if you are a heavier than me. I'm 150 pounds and have to ride this fork at lower air pressure than specified to feel it working. This fork, like other air forks, isn't sensitive to small bumps, but then again maybe it's just me. This has been a great fork on roads and climbs because of its stiffness. Due to my weight and the fork's characteristics I can use it as a light freeride fork. If you are a heavier person look into this fork. It comes with a shock pump from most retailers. But if you are under 150 pounds try spring loaded forks.
and as for the plastic cap....this is what worked for me: the first time you unscrew it, coat the threads with a layer of grease. it will go in and out with minimum effort and won't wear away the threads as much. good luck
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Submitted by
Marty D
a Cross Country Rider
from Europe Date Reviewed: May 9, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
www.bike-discount.de
Strengths:
stiff, fairly plush
Weaknesses:
plastic cap, instant-off stickers, paint, damping only so-so
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi Z5, Z2, X-Fly, RS Quadra 21
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz SL
Bottom Line:
Nice fork for the money but I do hate these RS forks for their plastic top caps. I'll admit that I'm ham-fisted mechanic but stripping threads on top cap while removing for the first time is not cool.
Otherwise, nice tracking and stiff fork. Damping is only average compared to more expensive forks.
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Submitted by
Can EL
a Cross Country Rider
from Izmir Date Reviewed: April 27, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$280.00
Purchased At:
sektor
Strengths:
rigid...after a sid xc 2001 it was like dream come true...duke sl 100 mm....the only thing I can say is 'that's it' ....
Weaknesses:
heavy...it is not 1510 grams...it is about 1750 grams...
Similar Products Used:
manitou mars 2001...sid xc 2001
Bike Setup:
full XTR 2003 scott usa
Bottom Line:
you have to buy this fork if you are over 85 kg. weight... that is the only fork that made me happy while I was downhilling...
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Submitted by
Ziggy Stardust
a Cross Country Rider
from outer space Date Reviewed: March 24, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
RIGIDITY, lightweight (under 4 lbs), great travel (100 mm or 4 inches), fully adjustable air shock spring stiffness, plush ride, looks good and inexpensive.
Weaknesses:
Lacks external adjusted pure damping and lockout (but not a big deal, read below)
Similar Products Used:
'02 SID SL
Bike Setup:
GT Zaskar hardtail
Bottom Line:
I bought the Duke SL 100 mm to replace an '02 SID SL I bought last year for my GT Zaskar hardtail. I had a negative experience with the SID and thought it was a very poor performer as a trail bike shock for someone of my weight (185 lbs). Im a normal Joe Blow X-country rider, I don't free ride or do anything crazy but I do ride on some fairly rugged terrain with roots rocks and gulches. My SID was way too flexy and instilled a real sense of fear and insecurity while riding with it. Although I was pleased with the performance of the SID's air shock, which has held up really well. So I decided to get a Duke with the same basic air shock design (except without the negative chamber) and with a simpler dampening arrangement.
The bottom line is the '02 Duke SL 100 mm rocks. It has outstanding rigidity, low weight (well under 4 lbs), and lots of plush travel. Although the dampening is not as nice as the SID's fully adjustable (with lockout) pure system, this has proven to be a non-issue with the Duke. I dont want to lockout the Duke, while Im on the trail I want my shock to absorb shocks and help me stay in control of the bike...and thats exactly what it does without excessive bob or energy robbing bounce. The only time I even remotely miss a lockout is if Im on the road...and even here as long as I remain seated and apply a nice steady, consistent "road cadence" the shock barely moves at all. The lack of lockout is a non issue with this shock. The damping can still be adjusted by tweaking the rebound knob and by changing the weight of the oil for your weight. And once its set, thats it your good to go.
Since riding the Duke on the trail a few times I am convinced that I should have bought this fork last year instead of the overpriced and underperforming SID SL. I now have a real sense of security with my bike that I never had with the SID. It is RIGID and beefy! I can pummel down hills, and blast over rocks and logs without a second thought now. No more scarey spaghetti noodling sessions with the SID. I feel secure and confident with this shock and also just plain comfortable. I never knew what I was missing.
Another really great byproduct is that the 100 mm shock raises the front end of my GT Zaskar hardtail somewhat. This has really improved the overall handling of the bike. The pedal and bottom bracket clearance are increased so that now I can leap right over logs and rocks without unclipping that would have stopped me dead in my tracks on the SID. My bike is more stable going down hills. The bike also wheelies easier, which was an unanticipated benefit. Now I can lift the front end fairly easily, at speed or at a crawl. which has allowed me to wheelie through big mud puddles (which helps keep me clean and keep my bike in control), and wheelie over gulches and obstacles that would "steer you wrong" if you didn't float the front tire over them first. Some of the wheelie manuevers I've been pulling with the 100 mm Duke I wouldn't dream of with the SID SL. I just cant get over the difference.
Overall if you are over 120 lbs and need a sturdy, light, trailbike (or race) fork, then the Duke 100 mm SL is the way to go. Plus its widely availble for well under $200 smackers!
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Submitted by
Alex King
a Weekend Warrior
from Missoula,MT Date Reviewed: March 8, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$270.00
Purchased At:
Open Road
Strengths:
light, good on climb and short decents.
Weaknesses:
not enough travel,leaks air and oil.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Surly Instigator frame, avid cable disk brakes, Kenda 2.30 Dh tires, Ritchey rims+Hubs,Shimano LX shifters and front and rear derailures.
Bottom Line:
This is a pretty good fork for cross country but it leaks like a beech.
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Submitted by
BMF
a Cross Country Rider
from Durham NC Date Reviewed: January 12, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
169.00
Strengths:
Plush. Inexpensive. Light.
Weaknesses:
Poor quality control.
Similar Products Used:
Sid, Fox Forx, XFly, Z1 freeride, Black Air.
Bike Setup:
Superlight, King/Mustang, XT/XTR. Avid Linear brakes.
Bottom Line:
I blew the air seal after about 20 miles of light riding. The mechanic said it looked like the fork wasn't lubed correctly when assembled. It rode really good before this happened. Very nice fork, especially for $169. It'll probably be really nice after the mechanic rebuilds it.
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Submitted by
remora
a Weekend Warrior
from Laguna Niguel, CA Date Reviewed: December 9, 2002
Favorite Trail:
any OC trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$169.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Price! Treks well, simplicity, price....and well, price. Great value for heavy duty performance. Rebound adjustment.
Weaknesses:
Missing RS stickers...but who cares! Lots of stictions in the beginning, took a while to saddle in. Had sprayed lots of teflon lub before it finally travelled smoothly.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou Mars, R/S Judy XC
Bike Setup:
2001 GF Sugar 2
Bottom Line:
This is the 80mm, replacement on my Mars that pretty much blew out. Probably when I extended my rides to rolling down rocks.
I realized what a piece of crap that Mars (Light, but feels like spring)was after switching to the Duke, a definite minimum requirement for a 200+lb rider like me who XC and do occassional drops. Got that stiff, heavy duty feel.
Unlike the Mars that feels totally out of control over baby heads, I feel more in control with the Duke and it does trek well over the rocks....great rebound, I suppose.
It's no Fox Forx, but for the price....I ain't complainin cuz it performs as good at the level of any $300-$400 forks in the market.
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Submitted by
Tom Carter
a Cross Country Rider
from Alameda, CA Date Reviewed: November 28, 2002
Favorite Trail:
whatever
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$345.00
Purchased At:
Universal Cycle
Strengths:
This is the 2003 Duke SL U-Turn (reviewed here since no category for it yet). Solid fork, not at all flimsy.Have tried the U-Turn travel adjustment in various settings; generally run at 90 cm unless very steep climbing (63 cm) or rough, steep descents (108 cm)
Weaknesses:
Haven't found any yet but have only ridden for one month+
Similar Products Used:
Hard tail had 2000 Manitou SXR: solid fork with lots of adjustment-tended to understeer till I set the preload down to 0 to account for my bodyweight (147). 2001 FSR came with Judy SL: pretty flimsy compared to the SXR. Strictly for bike paths or very timid riders who haven't experienced better. I think the tiny stanchions make the Judy hunt for a line other than the one you're trying to follow. Took it off and installed the SXR; much better. Now I have the Duke SL Uturn: 30 mm stanchions-solid feel, adjustable travel, compression and rebound adjustment. What more could an aggressive cross country trail rider want. I was leery of Rock Shox after the Judy but now I'm cured.
Bike Setup:
2001 Specialized FSR with several upgrades
Bottom Line:
Universal had the best price on these and no sales tax. Rock Shox Owner's Manuals are very minimal in terms of tuning info. Even though the owner's manual gives you no clue, apparently Pure Delite is really a type of compression damping adjustment, but even Sram's (Rock Shox') tech adviser wasn't able to explain it to me very well by email. Maybe they'll figure it out. Basically the Duke is set up with a factory spring suited to 165 # riders. Even though the manual says don't use Pure Delite to adjust the spring rate, it is compression adjustment, so if your weight is lower than 165 stay toward the low end of the 20-60 PSI range and vice versa if heavier. I like the rebound set towards full fast. So far I like the fork :If you're looking for a solid, smooth fork with adjustable travel, it's considerably cheaper than the Fox (especially the $700 adjustable travel TALAS), and probably just about as strong.Of course it's still too early to tell about durability, but I'll let you know. It's not dukey.
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Submitted by
TuksonRider
a Downhiller
from Tucson, AZ USA Date Reviewed: November 25, 2002
Favorite Trail:
The Deserts of So. AZ.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$169.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
PRICE PRICE PRICE!!! Excellent rebound, built like a tank. Great adjustability
Weaknesses:
Heavy, or at least it seems like that to me. I usually ride full rigid.
Well, I took the plunge and bought a suspension fork. I used to ride Kona P2 forks. Tired of getting nasty looks from the F/S riders as I passed them on the downhills *snicker*.
Anyways, can't beat the $169.00 price tag.
They are nice on the XC bumpy flats. Rebound is nice. I like to keep the forks stiff. Adjustment is a breeze.
On the downhill, it's not as exhilerating as the Kona P2, but it sure is smoother. Uphill? Well, lets just say I ain't selling my Konas.
The drops are the same on either. At 5ft or greater, 100mm and rigid feel the same.
Depending on the ride, I'll swap between my Kona rigid and the Duke SL.
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Submitted by
bendlight
a Weekend Warrior
from austin, tx, us Date Reviewed: November 11, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$170.00
Purchased At:
supergo
Strengths:
light, plush, lots of adjustment possible, tough
Weaknesses:
a ton of striction on first compression (sweet afterwards though)
Similar Products Used:
judy sl and xc, marz z-1
Bike Setup:
schwinn s-20 with duke sl and formula savage rims
Bottom Line:
I ride hard and fast on really rocky terrain with lots of drops and plenty of water crossings. Have had no problems. The fork is smooth and inspires confidence on downhills or drops and jumps. Does a good job when climbing or makin it up a rock face. I think it's solid equipment for a great price.
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Submitted by
K. Fritz Lehr
a Cross Country Rider
from Carrboro, NC Date Reviewed: November 6, 2002
Favorite Trail:
CHHS Trails
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$220.00
Purchased At:
Clean Machine
Strengths:
Very cheap for what you get, smooth, very stiff for 100mm, so far been reliable
Weaknesses:
Not very plush, 4 lb weight, still has an air fork feel
Similar Products Used:
'01 Z1 MCR, '00 Z2 Atom 80, '99 Super-Fly, '97 Atom Bomb,'97 White Bros. SC90, '96 Judy 63mm
Bike Setup:
'03 Hecker, XT disc, shifter, crank, hubs, XTR R. derailler, Azonic bar, Kore stem
Bottom Line:
For $200 it is hard to complain about this fork, you get a lot for you money, including adjustable rebound. The only thing I do not like about it is that it still has an air fork feel, which is good and bad. It is good for climbing, doesn't really bob and it is great for taking up a big hit. The fork feels smooth when you push down on it, but like all air forks I have tried, it is not plush. It simply does not do as good a job as a coil fork at taking up small bumps. I think it is a great deal at around $200, but if I had spent more money I would have been disappointed. For the riding that I do, there are better forks, but they are much more expensive. If you don't have a lot of money and need a sturdy fork, this may be the ideal fork for you. Oh yes, I other thing I like is that it doesn't creak like all the recent Marzocchi forks I have owned. I give it 5 overall, because I don't think any other fork can touch it in the $200 range, but against $300 and up forks, the competition is a lot tougher.
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Submitted by
Josh
a Weekend Warrior
from Long Beach, CA, USA Date Reviewed: November 6, 2002
98 rockhopper comp, XT/LX, mythos xc, other upgrades
Bottom Line:
black, 80mm (was looking for black 100mm, but they r all gone). awesome deal for xc fork (purchased at the end of the '02 season). initially, it sticks a little, but after a couple runs, it works fine. travel soaks up both large and small bumps (i weigh 130#). it's a tad heavier than the sid SL, but way stiffer. the rebound knob is very easy to adjust. i don't need those on-the-fly, fancy lock-out adjustments on the sid, so this fork is perfect for me.
with the price and solid construction that RS offers (duke sl, NOT sid SL), u can't go wrong w/ it. pick one up while u can. FIVE flamin' chilis.
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Submitted by
Cody
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, TX Date Reviewed: October 30, 2002
Favorite Trail:
ant hills
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$159.00
Purchased At:
supergo
Strengths:
Stiff as a freakin' board, but plush when you need it. Light weight
Weaknesses:
None so far
Similar Products Used:
Judy TT
Bike Setup:
Trek 4500 with full XT drivetrain, Mythos XC tires, egg beater pedals.
Bottom Line:
I can't believe the difference the Duke SL has made over the Judy TT. This fork is STIFF. Hills that I wouldn't have thought about tackling before are now taken with ease. The extra stiffness also lets me take sharp turns a hellofalot faster now...excellent handling. Also, my arms and shoulders don't feel beat to hell after a ride. If you have a mediocre fork on your rig, I highly suggest the Duke SL. Supergo has them for dirt cheap. 5 flamin' turds.
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Submitted by
Cliff
a Cross Country Rider
from Nevada Date Reviewed: October 15, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Blue Diamond
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$170.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Takes 2.4 tire, 30mm slippery PTFE stanchions, 100mm travel, SL(what does that stand for?), good value if not too concerned about poundage.
Weaknesses:
How many different ways can u say h-e-a-v-y. SL? Despite what I was told, arrived without a shockpump.
Similar Products Used:
Rock shoxs, RST
Bike Setup:
Trek Y, XTR, 517's, Ea-70, RFace, trashed old fork
Bottom Line:
This was supposed to be the last buy in fixing up/cutting weight on the FS for XC, yea sure. All the reviews sounded good -Rock Shox site, Supergo web, and the guy at Supergo sales said it was a 3.36 pounder. What's going on? When I pulled that beauty out of the box, thought it was the old RST. My scales showed an even 4 lbs so I took it down to a certified meter scale - 3lbs 14+ ounces (close to 3.9). Bummer, still a pretty good value but nothing like advertised. For that weight, I'd spend the extra $ and try a Zuch. Have a Mars Super on the way. The little drop down menu says 3 flamers is a good; that's as good as it gets for the Duke SL.
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Submitted by
Blakey
a Weekend Warrior
from Launceston Date Reviewed: October 14, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Dazzler Range
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Cycle Torque
Strengths:
Tough fork, No problems as yet whilst being used for aggresive XC. A very anti-flex fork
Weaknesses:
Make a bit of noise when being compressed, and stiff when first used after a break.
Similar Products Used:
None, had a trendy pair of Rock Shox Jetts....
Bike Setup:
Giant ATX 850....Deore stuff
Bottom Line:
The forks are awesome, first time I used them on a decent downhill section they were wicked. Luxury. The dampning works well and with the option of the adjustable rebound (I have it set at about half) and positive air makes the fork a very versitile package. Only my second pair of forks, but have ridden other types on mates bikes.....I like mine more. Good value at 2002 run out sale. Just brought a new NRS1, and thinking of swapping the SIDS for the 02 Duke SL's.
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Submitted by
Peter Brown
a Weekend Warrior
from Reading, UK Date Reviewed: September 30, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$390.00
Purchased At:
chainreactioncycles.com
Strengths:
Stiffness Improved damping control
Weaknesses:
Durability
Similar Products Used:
SID SL, Judy SL
Bike Setup:
Stumpjumper M4
Bottom Line:
This is preliminary review of the 03 Duke SL. I was looking for a durable 80mm air fork to replace my SIDs (too flexible now that I have fitted disks). I took a chance on the the 03 Dukes as they are available now in 80mm. They seem to have improved adjustment for damping over the 02 model, and I was briefly happy with my decision, until after just four hours of use I noticed significant play in the bushings ... argh! I don't know if this is a one-off or a new-for-03 feature of all Dukes. I'll update this review when I find out more.
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Submitted by
Dave Garee
a Cross Country Rider
from Winder Date Reviewed: September 29, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$179.00
Purchased At:
phattire.com
Strengths:
Sturdy, plush, ease of maintenance, good rebound adjustment
Weaknesses:
Perhaps not a weakness, but the squish noise can be alarming, and seems to intensify with added air pressure
Similar Products Used:
Judy (T)otal (T)rash, SID
Bike Setup:
Kona X country
Bottom Line:
This is one of the best deals out there as far as shocks are concerned. This thing is stiff overall, but plush when it needs to be. It gets an 8 out of 10 for soaking up small bumps on level ground, and 9 out of 10 for all other applications. I have the 100mm travel version, and I have used it on some short but very steep downhill that I probably shouldn't have attempted with my X country rig, and I couldn't believe how well it held up. If I would have tried it with a Judy or a SID, well, I probably wouldn't be writing this review... I weigh 155, and I usually keep the air pressure at 125-135, with the rebound damping halfway between the middle and high settings. I get a little bob on level ground, but its nothing I can't live with. When it comes to climbing hills, this fork really shines. It is so stiff in the first inch of travel, that it may as well have a lockout. I have been able to climb things that had me saying "not so sure." Very good job by ROCK SHOX!
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Submitted by
Mike A
a Cross Country Rider
from Mimai, FL Date Reviewed: September 11, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Oleta, Markham, Oleta
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$189.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Plush, super stiff, light, looks good and PRICE!
Weaknesses:
Paint chips easily, seals ???
Similar Products Used:
Manitou 5 Ti (nothing like it actually)
Bike Setup:
GT LTS 1 (american made), Mavic rims, all XTR, Syncros stem and bars
Bottom Line:
Been about a month since last review. This baby kicks some serious booty. Super adjustable (add/let out air). Initially I had problem after two or three days would loose about 20lbs of pressure, when I put air in, would not hold. After pumping fork several times and refilling air would stay. Never leaked during my trail riding. Recently added Finishline Teflon lube, that seens to have solved to problem, air last a week or so with no pressure loss now. I hear all air shocks leak over time. On the trail they handle anything I throw at them (mind you I'm no freerider and only 160 lbs). Paint on arch lost a 1" chunk of paint when tire rolled rock thru arch. That said I love these forks for the price they rule. New 2003 has lockout but unless you need that this a great buy.
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Submitted by
Mike A
a Cross Country Rider
from Miami, FL Date Reviewed: September 10, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Oleta, Markham, Amelia
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$189.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Travel, plushness, stiffness, adjustability and mainly THE PRICE!
Weaknesses:
Initially seem to leak air, the paint chips easily
Similar Products Used:
Manitou 5 Ti (previous fork but no comparison really)
Bike Setup:
GT LTS1 (yup it keeps goin!) all XTR w/XT shifters, Duke SL 80mm
Bottom Line:
Ridden this baby for about a month now, this thing is awesome. Having ridden that old Manitou 5 Ti before, the Duke has completely change my riding, dropped almost 30 minutes off trail run. It is plush stiff, light and handles drops and the rough stuff quite well. I finish the trail refreshed not beaten up. Gotten use to the squish noise, too. They are super adjustable to any terrain by adding or letting air out. Initially they seem to be losing air. When I pumped them up the first try they let the air out. After pumping them a few times and refilling them they held the air ok. Your guess is as good as mine why. Added a few drops of Finishline Teflon lube to stanchion seals, this solved the problem. They now hold same pressure for up to a week. Hey air shocks all leak some air but this is totally acceptable. They have yet to bottom out on me set to 100lbs, which is below recommended lbs. for my weight. The paint does not stick well to the legs. A rock picked up the the tire took off a chunk of paint on the arch. But hey it works awesome so who gives if it chips here and there. For the price they are going for, worth every penny. Sure the 2003 has a lockout feature but unless you need that this baby is just as good. Next review in six months. Live to ride, ride for life.
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Submitted by
Mike A
a Cross Country Rider
from Miami, FL Date Reviewed: September 10, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Oleta, Markham, Amelia
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$189.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Travel, plushness, stiffness, adjustability and mainly THE PRICE!
Weaknesses:
Initially seem to leak air, the paint chips easily
Similar Products Used:
Manitou 5 Ti (previous fork but no comparison really)
Bike Setup:
GT LTS1 (yup it keeps goin!) all XTR w/XT shifters, Duke SL 80mm
Bottom Line:
Ridden this baby for about a month now, this thing is awesome. Having ridden that old Manitou 5 Ti before, the Duke has completely change my riding, dropped almost 30 minutes off trail run. It is plush stiff, light and handles drops and the rough stuff quite well. I finish the trail refreshed not beaten up. Gotten use to the squish noise, too. They are super adjustable to any terrain by adding or letting air out. Initially they seem to be losing air. When I pumped them up the first try they let the air out. After pumping them a few times and refilling them they held the air ok. Your guess is as good as mine why. Added a few drops of Finishline Teflon lube to stanchion seals, this solved the problem. They now hold same pressure for up to a week. Hey air shocks all leak some air but this is totally acceptable. They have yet to bottom out on me set to 100lbs, which is below recommended lbs. for my weight. The paint does not stick well to the legs. A rock picked up the the tire took off a chunk of paint on the arch. But hey it works awesome so who gives if it chips here and there. For the price they are going for, worth every penny. Sure the 2003 has a lockout feature but unless you need that this baby is just as good. Next review in six months. Live to ride, ride for life.
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Submitted by
Michael
a
from The Mountains of Tennessee Date Reviewed: September 5, 2002
Favorite Trail:
hard to narrow it down to one
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Woody's Bicycles (came on bike)
Strengths:
Light, stiff, adjustable, beautiful, smooth, and pretty plush for a air fork
Weaknesses:
I guess the only one I can say is that the Rock Shox Stickers came off, but oh well, thats no big deal
Similar Products Used:
Marzochii Z.3 BAM(stolen on old bike), Manitou SX-R, old Indy XC(gutted with Englund inners)
Bike Setup:
Airborne Corsair, XT/LX mix
Bottom Line:
Update on previous post: I recently took this fork on a trail that I had never ridden before. At the end of the course was a long extremely rocky downhill complete with a wide assortment of drop offs, ledges, baby heads, and the like. This fork handled all the abuse with nary a complaint. WOW, I was quite impressed, I am a big guy (5'11", 260) and put quite a deal of abuse on all my equipment, and this has been the one piece of equipment that I have yet to worry about or think of replacing it, which is more than I can say for my seatpost and handlebar. In my opinion this is the best air fork on the market that is without a lockout, but if you really need that you can get it on the 2003 Duke Race, heck, you can even get the remote lockout!
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Submitted by
mike tan
a Cross Country Rider
from singapore Date Reviewed: August 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
bukit timah
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
hup leong company
Strengths:
its a great fork. Stiff for aggressive cross country terrain. The rebound is smooth. Cool LOOKING
Weaknesses:
Needs to be lubricated regularly, minimal adjustment
Similar Products Used:
RST AET
Bike Setup:
FUll XT
Bottom Line:
a great fork if your looking for quality,durabilityand valued stiffness.
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Submitted by
Glenn
a Weekend Warrior
from Gilbert, AZ, USA Date Reviewed: August 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Hawes in Mesa AZ
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Smooth, plush for an air fork, stiff, cool looking, light weight for a stiff 100mm fork. Simple rebound adjustment.
Weaknesses:
Stiffness at the beginning of movement.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou SX-R
Bike Setup:
'99 Specialized FSR-XC comp. 100mm Duke front Fox float RC rear.
Bottom Line:
Very nice fork especially for the price. It's very plush on big rocks and drops. I agree with several other reviewers that there is a little bit of stiffness at the beginning of the travel. When you first push down on the fork it is real stiff then it softens up after a couple of strokes. I also notice the air "squish" noise. Kinda irritating but not a big deal. I adjust mine below Rock Shox's recommendation also.I like an active plush ride to absorb nasty rocks and rough terrain. I run mine at about 95psi and I'm 155#. I actually like the 1/4 turn rebound adjustment. My old SX had about 6 turns adjustment and it was hard to get the adjustment right. With the Duke you can make small adjustments and feel it. I highly recommend this fork for recreational riders or racers (Duke Race)looking for a stiff good riding fork at a reasonable price. If you need the lightest weight possible you can spend a bunch more money on something lighter and more flexible-but I wouldn't.
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Submitted by
Bri
a Cross Country Rider
from MD Date Reviewed: August 20, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$179.00
Purchased At:
Phat Tire
Strengths:
smooth rebound, light weight, adjustable, pump included
Weaknesses:
not really a weakness, but it makes a noise like air is escaping when it is compressed quickly. however, it never loses air.
Similar Products Used:
marzoochi z4, rs judy xc
Bottom Line:
For the price I paid, this is a great fork. I love all the travel for the rocky MD terrain.
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Submitted by
r2
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose, CA Date Reviewed: August 15, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Phat Tire
Strengths:
Price, stiffness, ease of adjustment, included pump
Weaknesses:
None obvious so far
Similar Products Used:
95 Judy XC
Bike Setup:
95 Y-22, Duke SL100, Fox Float RL, Avid brakes/levers, Mavic 517 rims/Real hubs, original LX/XT drivetrain.
Bottom Line:
This fork (and new Float RL) rejuvenated my Y. The stiffness improved handling and tracking while travel increased from 63 to 100mm. I wanted something simple to tune that wouldn't break the bank. This is a no-brainer upgrade for the price. I was considering buying a new bike, but with the improvements I'm good for now.
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Submitted by
Mike A
a Cross Country Rider
from Miami, FL Date Reviewed: August 13, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Oleta, Markham, Amelia
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$189.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Build, weight, looks and PRICE!
Weaknesses:
None yet, just got them we'll see.
Similar Products Used:
Judy SL
Bike Setup:
GT LTS 1 (american made), Mavic rims, all XTR, Syncros stem and bars
Bottom Line:
WOW, this shock is great! The old Manitou 5 Ti that I had was a frickin rock compared to this. Went out today for a short trail run, what a difference! This shock is plush, laterally stiff and performs great. This shock has rejuvinated my old LTS and for the price AMAZING! Way to go Supergo. I am 165 and based on todays ride I can see that Rockshox guide for pressure is correct as today at 90lbs the shock almost bottom on me on a drop. As far as weight goes these things are light. I will post another review at the 30-45 day mark. If you need a XC fork that handles awesome and is affordable, this baby is it!
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Submitted by
Wil
a Cross Country Rider
from Nashville, TN Date Reviewed: August 13, 2002
This particular one did not come with a pump, it was a factory blemish.
Similar Products Used:
95 Judy XC, MARS Elite
Bike Setup:
Older Cannondale Mountain CAAD frame with 1/8 headset, all XT components, Race Face Stem
Bottom Line:
This was a factory blemish fork, but the only thing wrong is no pump. I handles the big and swall hits very well, and handles very responsively. There is not a better fork out there for the money. If you are in the market for a fork this one deserves serious consideration.
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Submitted by
kbro
a Cross Country Rider
from independence mo Date Reviewed: August 12, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Lahndahl park
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Strengths:
low maintenance, stiff ride, smooth travel great for XC
best fork i've ridden, much stouter than the judy and just as carefree. great fork at the price point. a little heavy if you're into the lightest gear, but the heavier stachions add much to the stiffness of the fork. great ride.
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Submitted by
Trail Rider
a Weekend Warrior
from SF Bay Area Date Reviewed: August 11, 2002
Favorite Trail:
El Corte De Madera
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
online
Strengths:
Stiff, cush, smooth. Air allows you dial in the fork perfectly
Weaknesses:
sticky in the first inch of travel
Similar Products Used:
sid, x-vert
Bike Setup:
Titus QM: duke sl 100, fox float r, hayes, race face.... who cares
Bottom Line:
This fork works better than I thought. My 5" fork made my quasi moto slow in the turns so I got this to lower the front end a bit. Now it turns in fast and holds a line well. It's super smooth and tracks perfectly. I don't know what others are saying but I pump the fork up pretty close to what Rockshox recommends. I weigh in at 135 and pump the fork up to 125 pounds. Any less and the fork bottoms out on big rocky sections and jumps. It's ok though cuz you can't really tell when it does bottom out; it's that cush. The only thing that I don't like is the stiction at the first half inch of travel. I thought it would go away after a while but after hours of hard riding it's still there. When I stop and get back on the bike, it's there but goes away when you ride. Not a big deal though, I'll just add a little lube to stanctions. Go out and buy this fork if you ride aggressive trails.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from NJ Date Reviewed: August 7, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Allamuchy
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Supergo.com (blemish)
Strengths:
-Looks (love the engraved Duke) -80 mm of usable travel -Great rebound
Weaknesses:
-No Lockout -Those damn squeeks on the first couple of compressions! -Stickers that won't stay on
Similar Products Used:
Judy, SID...Mars, Headshock
Bike Setup:
2000 Schwinn Moab 3, XT, Duke SL, Mavic x517, Panaracer T.B., Titec Cockpit...my play bike :)
Bottom Line:
Heres the bottom line...if you are looking for a lightweight, XC, hardcore fork, the Duke is for you. It is noticably stiffer than a SID ( i own one, i know...). The first day i was on the trail i fell in love, it works flawlessly, well..except for the first couple compressions, it squeeks, but thats normal, so its ok...doesnt have a lock out, but hey, its no big deal, just buy one when it comes out for '03, i know i will...If you need a lightweight fork, dont looks anywhere else, Rock Shox has a winner here...and i was happy, I got 80mm as a blemish from Supergo.com, WHOO HOOO, no more 100mm....get the Duke if you are considering a nice XC/Trail fork...and if your disapointed, just yell at me then, i dont care.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from Omaha Date Reviewed: July 28, 2002
I like light, responsive handling. This is a great fork for the XC rider that either is a little heavy or will take some biger bumps.
It is very adjustable via the air valve. This fork is the best all around performer for me. I don't do big drops, but I ride as fast as I can and this fork is the best I have used for hard XC. I am very happy.
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Submitted by
Bomber
a Weekend Warrior
from Sunnyvale, CA Date Reviewed: July 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
El Corte de Madera
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Price Point
Strengths:
Price, Light, Excellent travel, takes small and big hits nice
Weaknesses:
Rebound adjusment doesn't seem to
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shoks Jett, Manitou XC, Manitou black
Bike Setup:
Specialized Expedition full suspention
Bottom Line:
Peeeee, what a shock! Anything you want, nothing you don't.
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Submitted by
NoSanBa
a Cross Country Rider
from Chandler, AZ Date Reviewed: July 16, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Hawes
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$229.00
Purchased At:
a certain mail order company
Strengths:
Fairly light, cool looking (black!), very plush at beginning of stroke.
Weaknesses:
Air fork, noise when compressed, not as stiff as I expected.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou SX-R, Marzocchi Superfly '99, Marzocchi Atom Bomb
Bike Setup:
2002 Titus LocoMoto (new design), XT, SRAM shifters, Thomson stem & post.
Bottom Line:
Wanted at 4" fork to match my new LocoMoto, but didn't want the weight of the Bomber or Fox or the hassles of the Black forks. The last RockShox I had was a '99 Judy 100, the thing was so wiggly it scared me! Lot's of quality concers with Rock Shox.
Got the Duke SL very cheap, the travel and weight was just right. Once set up correctly, the fork is suprisingly plush, especially in the beginning of it's travel.
I've only got 2 rides on the fork, but it seems to be as good as everyone says.
The only issue so far is that noise it makes when I compress it for the first 3-4 times during a ride. Sounds like the seals are letting a tiny bit of air escape. We'll see after a few more rides.
I took a chance (again) with RockShox, so far it looks like it was worth it.
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Submitted by
george
a Racer
from Highmount/NY Date Reviewed: July 9, 2002
Favorite Trail:
jokeyhill
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$225.00
Purchased At:
bike brothers
Strengths:
the casted duke on the side is really cool,and badd ass looking
Weaknesses:
the normal rock shox bushing plat that i have encountered wiht all the other forks i have tried.The only good rock shox is the boxxer
Similar Products Used:
Morzocchi Mxc-ecc,shiver fr,monstor t, black elite, manitou magium.
Bike Setup:
i have so many bikes i dont know what one you want me to tell you abouot the xc,dh,ds,fr what one??
Bottom Line:
this shock is the worst thing, i think i would have liked it if one of the three i owned worked, the designe is promising but if you want a good fork the only way to go is wiht marzocchi,the duke is at a good price but it has horrible preformance
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Submitted by
junior
a Weekend Warrior
from san jose Date Reviewed: June 30, 2002
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
coloradocyclist.com
Strengths:
PRICE!!!!!! 100mm of travel. Looks. It has taken everything I have thrown at it.
Weaknesses:
None yet.
Bike Setup:
Trek Fuel
Bottom Line:
For the price, it is the best fork out there. If you are thinking about getting one, GO OUT AND GET ONE, YOU WONT REGRET IT.
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Submitted by
JimPz
a Cross Country Rider
from Andover MA USA Date Reviewed: June 17, 2002
Sugar1, Sram 9.0SL, Avid v brakes, Mavic UST, Thomson
Bottom Line:
For the price you can fins a Duke Sl (or other model) on the NET, I don't think there is a better fork on the market. The Sid's are lighter, but unless you only race, or are really concerned with weight, The Duke SL is a better performing fork. This fork is very supple over small stuff & handles medium & big hits well. I added a little redrum to the air chanber as per one of RS's hints, & like the feel better. Without the oil, the fork almost seemed to have bottomless travel, but also would too easily use much of it's travel. It also appears (at least on my bike) that RS's air pressure recomendations are a little high. I weigh 180 & have 115 lbs of air in the fork. All in all a great fork & pretty light for a 100 MM fork. I knoe marathons are supposed to be good, but not at 2.5 times the price !!! JimPz
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Submitted by
Joe
a Cross Country Rider
from Clearwater Date Reviewed: June 14, 2002
rebound adjustment is a little cheesy, the whole range is only 1/4 turn, RS claims small adjustments will make a big difference, we will see . . .
Similar Products Used:
manitou magnum, sx
Bike Setup:
RM Instince, RF xtr and mavic everything
Bottom Line:
Excellent fork for the money, I don't have any complaints. The travel is very smooth and progressive - first couple inches sucks up the small bumps nicely but it's hard to bottom out with the correct pressure. Progressive travel does very well on the big hits too. Very stiff, reliable and predictable. No stickers on the sides to get ripped up, I think it looks sweet. Mine doesn't leak a bit of air, hopefully it will stay that way. I weigh 190lbs and this fork is perfect for me, all for 2 bills, what more could I ask for? By the way, although they claim it weighs 3.3 lbs, this is without oil so expect more like 3.6 or 3.7, not bad for a $200 100mm travel fork. If your a weight weenie pay the big bucks for a light but very flexy high maintenance sid.
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Submitted by
martijn
a Cross Country Rider
from Ambacht Date Reviewed: June 11, 2002
Favorite Trail:
anything steep and fast
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$259.00
Purchased At:
Akkermans 2wielers Elsloo
Strengths:
-Plushness -rigity -looks, nice and fat tubes -100mm, but fairly light for his travel -progessive - stiff, unlike SID's -negativ spring, unlike Superfly
Weaknesses:
-corny decals moulded in lowers -weigt for cross country, perfect for tour
Similar Products Used:
Z2 Superfly, Z2 BAM, Rond Rebel
Bike Setup:
Cube Airwing Blackline frame, Duke SL 100mm black, king/mavic618 wheels, XTR everything except cranks,Race Face cranks, Magura HS33 and Thomson stem and post.
Bottom Line:
Great fork for cross country riders, to heavy for weight wheenies. Complements my rear suspension well.(91mm rear wheel travel with SID shox) Super smooth and didn't break is yet, so is going to be even better!!! Uses ALL of his 100mm travel in a nice and progressiv way and doesn't feel like a air fork. Super comfortable and stealthy black color. Can I retrofit Pure damping and lock-out from a Psylo SL fork, think i'm going to try it out! Perhaps even Dual air from a Psylo race! will update after more use, but for now great! 100 flaming chillies!
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Submitted by
Ian
a Cross Country Rider
from England Date Reviewed: June 9, 2002
Favorite Trail:
The Dark Peak
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$280.00
Purchased At:
Merlin Cycles
Strengths:
Travel,stiffness,fit and forget
Weaknesses:
Could be a few grams lighter
Similar Products Used:
Manitou SX,Manitou Mars C
Bike Setup:
Marin Mt.Vision Pro,with Hope M4 discs,and Hope hubs on F519s.
Bottom Line:
Bought as a replacement for crap Manitou Mars,that never held air despite 3 returns under warranty.Works really well,once set up it can be left to do its job.Extra travel is a great help on local rough trails.Extar stiffness means no squeal under braking(when I had V's)and greater confidence in difficult situaions.I got mine discounted, from £300 to £195,I thikn it is a great buy for peolpe who just like to ride a bit of everything,Enduro style maybe.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Newark, DE, USA Date Reviewed: May 29, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Do I have to pick one?
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$155.00
Purchased At:
eBay (used)
Strengths:
100mm travel and overall feel (stiff & without noticeable bobbing) compliments back end well of a NRS.
Holds air, unlike my SID rear, which needs adding before every ride.
Weaknesses:
It would be nice if Rock Shox published actual weight - no way it weighs 3.35lbs! Noticeably heavier than a SID, but better steering & more travel. X-country "race" feel - translated, not supple on small stuff. Lack of compression damping, but it seems about right.
Similar Products Used:
Judy C SID SL MCU generic fork
Bike Setup:
Giant NRS 3, pretty much stock except this fork and Stans notubes
Bottom Line:
Excellent, excellent value. You forget that the fork is there - it just does it's job. Long-ish travel for a x-country fork.
I've added the small amount of RedRum to the left side fork to increase progressive feel, per manual. Does not blow through travel.
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Submitted by
Mat Harris
a Cross Country Rider
from Hershey, PA Date Reviewed: May 26, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$279.00
Purchased At:
eBay
Strengths:
This fork is plush and the travel is great for a cross-country bike. It seems to be very durably made, and the black crown and stanchions look smooth.
Weaknesses:
Just a little heavier than I would like, but for the price I can't argue.
Similar Products Used:
Judy SL
Bike Setup:
GT team idrive, XTR, Shimano 535 wheels
Bottom Line:
I am very pleased with this fork. I just wish someone could figure out how to make an air fork that didn't leak air. I always carry my pump with me just in case it gets dangerously low.
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Submitted by
TracerJohn
a Weekend Warrior
from IL Date Reviewed: May 23, 2002
No Compression adjustment but I couldnt tune it any better than RS has already.
Similar Products Used:
XFly, SID 100, Xvert Super, Psylo SL
Bike Setup:
Tracer with lotsa nice parts
Bottom Line:
This is the 5th fork Ive used on the Tracer and I have finally found the feel I was looking for. Takes big hits well yet is responsive on small stuff. As stiff as the Psylo and stiffer than the others mentioned above. The bike goes where I point it. Real nice compression stroke. Feels even better than the coil sprung Psylo. The pressure listed in the manual seem high to me. Im running 20 psi less tan recommended. Ive seen the SLs selling for $200 now. What a bargain!
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Submitted by
Matt
a
from Austin, Texas, America Date Reviewed: March 17, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Barton Creek Greenbelt
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$280.00
Strengths:
Stiff, Takes drops and Big Jumps really well and still rides well over the little bumps.
Weaknesses:
Sticks when you first start riding everyday and it sometimes leaks oil.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou SXR
Bike Setup:
Schwinn Moab 3 with Shimano XT brakes and front and rear derailers
Bottom Line:
I think that this fork is a really good fork for any size rider and it takes any kind of terrain that you can take it threw
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Submitted by
PAUL PIROTTA
a Cross Country Rider
from AUSTRALIA Date Reviewed: March 8, 2002
Favorite Trail:
WA
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
stiff, easy to tune, basic design
Weaknesses:
for the price none
Similar Products Used:
99 jett, 01 Z4, 01 Sid XC.......
Bike Setup:
GT Avalanche 00, XT-XTR, mavic 317(super-comps), EXSIV hyd brakes, WCS headset, Syncros post & stem & Hutchy Alligators
Bottom Line:
Got the Dukes as a waranty replacement for faulty Sids. A realy basic fork that works well, and it just blends in with the ride. Not as responsive as the sids, but they are stronger all-round and I can go a little quicker down the steeps with the 100's. A budget race fork...you bet.
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Submitted by
AnonyMoose
a Cross Country Rider
from Alaska Date Reviewed: February 26, 2002
Favorite Trail:
I have lots of them...
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$265.00
Purchased At:
Ebay
Strengths:
Reasonable price. Not too heavy (1705 g). Stiff. 4 inches of useable travel. Nice aesthetics. Smooth. All the basics nothing bothersome and extra. Rebound damping has an excellent range of adjustment. Compression damping perfect (for me) as set by factory.
Weaknesses:
Maybe not progressive enough (The Rockshox Duke tuning manual states that up to 7 more cc of Redrum oil - for 10 cc total - may be added to the top of the air piston to increase the progression of the spring rate). So this may not be a big issue. No bells and whistles. The lack of travel adjustment, lockout, and compression damping adjustment. I have a fork with lockout, and I don't use it. I like 100mm of travel, don't need less. Compression damping is spot on for me. However, I realize other people may desire these features, and this fork doesn't have them. No fork boots (I like them to keep rocks and hard stuff from scratching the surface of the stanchion tubes). I put Lizard skins on.
Similar Products Used:
Rockshox Indy, Manitou SX-R, Manitou Mars 1.
Bike Setup:
Jamis Dakar Expert with Fox Vanilla float R.
Bottom Line:
I am extreamly pleased with the performance of my Duke SL. I can ride right over curbs without getting out of the saddle, or picking up the front end (this fork is going to make an even lazier rider out of me). Small bumps??? What are those? This fork was smoother before breaking in than either of my Manitou forks after they broke in (its about as plush as I remember my friends X-vert air as being). It must be the PTFE (teflon) coating on the stanchions, and the open bath design. The Rebound damping is sweet. I am very particular about the speed my fork rebounds. It is very easy to dial the Duke in. I have taken some small jumps and the fork lands me like a magic carpet, no excess dive. I do get this feeling that this fork doesn't have a highly progressive spring rate. Once the snow melts and I go ride more challenging terrain I will know for sure. If it isn't as progressive as I would like, I will add a few more cc of oil to the top of the air piston. That should bump the progression up a bit. Steering precision is excellent, better than anything else I have. There is no bushing slop. Very tight, which is good. I hate bushing slop. Considering my last experience with Rockshox (my Indy fork) and all the problems past Rockshox forks have had, I was ready to buy a Manitou Black. I read the reviews, and compared features and prices, as well as comparing forks on bike at the LBS and decided that I would take a risk and try my luck with the DUKE. Bottom line, I am glad I decided on the Duke.
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Submitted by
Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from kansas City Date Reviewed: February 18, 2002
Favorite Trail:
anything big air
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$189.00
Purchased At:
Supergo as a blemish
Strengths:
stiff, plush, strong, absorbs all the little jitters in the trail really well, perfect amount of travel for trailriding.looks great in all black, really smooth, light even with the big tubes
Weaknesses:
not extremly rigid, has stiction on the first compression of the day. doesnt stiffen up through its travel enough.
Bike Setup:
really changed up 2000 giant xct1
Bottom Line:
Small hitts-Takes up every single liitle bump in the trail just perfectly, in the corners it keeps your tire glued to the ground and does not flex. Medium hits-This fork will take medium hits probably better than any other 3 inch fork out there, it tends to go a liitle far into its travel, but it comes apart qiuck enough to make up for it. I'm able to hit the corners at atleast 5 mph faster than on my old Sid. This fork also handles the little 1-2 foot drops in the trail well. Big hits-i do not recomend this as a big hit fork for someone over 160. Just a few days ago it took it on its first urban ride, I'm one of those guys who end up going over a 13 set stair gap or hitting a 7 footer to flat. despite the constant big hit pounding it never made any weird noises or loose any air or oil. it did bottom out really bad in the 6-7 footers. it is very consistant fork and really took the hit out of every thing compared to my sid. Don't worry you trials guys, this fork is not that hard to do trials stuff with and won't efect your bunnys to much.
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Submitted by
Shawn
a
from upstate SC Date Reviewed: February 3, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Super- easy setup and adjustment, minimal flex
Weaknesses:
none found yet
Similar Products Used:
SID sl, marzocchi mcr, a few manitous
Bike Setup:
Ellsworth truth se, race face next lp isis cranks, xtr drivetrain, crossmax disc wheels, hayes brakes, king ti headset, cane creek rear shock
Bottom Line:
I had a sid sl 80mm and when I switched to discs, the flex was way too much for me. I have ridden the Duke about 50 miles now and I have no regrets. The difference in stiffness is unbeleivable and it tracks extremely well. The first thing that surprised me is that the height from the axle to the top of the crown was only about 1/8 inch taller than my sid despite having 20mm more travel. I didn't weigh it because I'm capable of carrying an extra half pound or so without the risk of injury but I didn't notice any difference in the front end weight of my bike at all. I feel that this was a definite upgrade in every way for my bike without any sacrifices.
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Submitted by
Dodo
a Weekend Warrior
from San Francisco Date Reviewed: January 11, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
NA
Strengths:
Hard to tell, this is a good fork if you are used to a SID because it is more rigid.
Weaknesses:
Hard ride, really not smooth on small to medium impacts. It only seem to react well to sharp medium impacts but fails again if you really hit something big, where it bottoms easily
Similar Products Used:
Lots and Lots, RS, Marxocchi, Rox Shock
Bike Setup:
GT hard tail (19", to big for me)
Bottom Line:
This is strange. It is a fork that is as bad as a SID (which only works well for really specialized applications: racing at a expert-pro level), but weights a bit more than (or close to) 4 pounds (the manifacturer weight mentioned above is just the usual joke from RS). There are vastly, VASTLY, superior offers from Marzocchi and Fox at this weight. It only makes sense if you are racing AND you want something that does not acts like a noodle as the SID does
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Submitted by
Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Tennessee Date Reviewed: January 10, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Wouldn't you like to know
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Came w/ bike
Strengths:
Light, stiff, beautiful, plush
Weaknesses:
Missing the pump
Similar Products Used:
Marzochii Z.3 bam, Manitou SX-R, Indy XC
Bike Setup:
Airborne Corsair, XT/LX mix, XT/517 wheels
Bottom Line:
Great fork, got it as an upgrade on my beautiful new bike(it goes great with the decal scheme on the frame) and I love it, Had to pump up the air pressure, but unfortuantely, my fork did not come with the pump for some strange reason:(, oh well, it is still and awesome pump, and that does not affect me b/c a pump is easy to get and it is probably only missing b/c it was on my bike.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Columbia Date Reviewed: December 27, 2001
Lots of plush travel...no more strained wrists from big drops...Im only 140pouds so I diddent notice signifigant 'bob' durring uphill climbs...took a few 4ft drops no loss of air...STIFF!
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Submitted by
muddbogger
a
from Honolulu Date Reviewed: December 6, 2001
Favorite Trail:
I'm not telling cause its that cool
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
fat tire cycles ABQ
Strengths:
The 100 is a must for any downhilling. Its stiff but you need the travel for any dropping off. Soaks up bumps real nice on hard pak cross country riding. Been using and abusing it and I only noticed slight difference from new. Beefy design is solid. Stronger than the frame. It can handle rocks about the size of graprfruits but after that you better get a psylo.
Weaknesses:
Not quite enough bounce for the technical terrain in Hawaii. It will get you just about anywhere but you kinda wish you had more to get home. The 2001 psylo is only 250 online. Why not go all the way. Also it kinda squeeks cause the air.
Similar Products Used:
Marzoochi z5
Bike Setup:
00 homegrown comp. upgraded and upgrading
Bottom Line:
Get it if you want a light fork that is stiff enough to handle about any weight for a x country bike. If you are tired of air and want to go big go for the psylo sl or the Marzoochi Z1 MCR for not much more $.
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Submitted by
Nick
a Cross Country Rider
from Illinois Date Reviewed: November 30, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Kettle Morain
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Arlington Bicycle Co.
Strengths:
The fork is very responsive. Not too much though. Lots of travel. Great no matter what you throw at it. A lot stiffer than I expected. Not too heavy for a 100mm fork.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Judy XC, '99 Judy
Bike Setup:
2001 Raleigh M600 Stripped down put full XT drive train, and Race Face equipped.
Bottom Line:
I have only used this fork for a few months but I have not had a single thing go wrong with it. I was told not to go with RS by a few peolpe who are big time Manitou freaks. They warned that I would be dealing with alot of problems. But I feel that I made the right choice. The price was right and it came with a pump. That was a nice plus. I think that Manitou needs to take a lesson from RS and follow their lead. I would not recommend the fork for a weight weenie, but for those of us who need a full 100mm of travel and you want a light fork this is for you. Again the fork takes anything that you throw at it.
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Submitted by
Ryan
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado Springs, CO, USA Date Reviewed: November 29, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$200.00
Strengths:
plush, smooth, full 100 mm of travel
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
RS SID XC and RS SID Race(3 of them)
Bike Setup:
2000 Schwinn Homegrown with XT and XTR
Bottom Line:
This is a bad ass fork. It is the best I've had yet. The duke has held up well. Any rider that rides hard and in technical terrain.
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Submitted by
jay c
a Weekend Warrior
from delano, ca Date Reviewed: November 11, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
bike haus
Strengths:
Stiff Responsive True 4" of Travel Pump Included
Weaknesses:
No Lockout 2 color only
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Judy XC Rock Shox SID XC
Bottom Line:
at first i thought rockshox messed up again. currently im on my second duke sl fork. the first one couldn't hold air in the leg for 20 minutes. that was after 2 ride, which were both on the road. replaced with the second one and it's working good. the shock is very stiff and responds to every little bump. much stiffer than the popular sid fork. a must have fork.
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Submitted by
Quang
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose, CA USa Date Reviewed: November 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
flume trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
you actually get full 100mm of buttery smooth and plush travel. This thing is super stiff compared to SiDS and has great adjustibility, point and shoot steering and it looks COOL!
Weaknesses:
No lock out but it dont matter!!
Similar Products Used:
Psylo, x-vert, old judy c (crappy), and z4
Bike Setup:
GT Avalanche 2.0, avid mechs in front and arch rivals in back, xt derailers, speed dial 7 levers, shimano lx shifters, syncros big box rims, and rock shox seatpost
Bottom Line:
This fork rocks.
it gives me more confidence on rocks and roots , etc.
plus it is alot better bombing downhill then my stock Judy C
ROCK SHOX GOT A REAL WINNER!!!!
get this fork!!!
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Submitted by
Kell
a Weekend Warrior
from Southern Illinois Date Reviewed: November 1, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
Jenson USA
Strengths:
Stiff, 4" of travel!
Weaknesses:
Slightly Heavier than listed
Similar Products Used:
Sid SL, Judy, Mag 21
Bike Setup:
hardtail right now
Bottom Line:
Good fork for the money, got tired of the flexy Sid SL. Performs more like a motorcycle fork. Sid was too active for me, bobbed everytime I hit a pebble and front end would search for a line. Got this fork and I love the 4" travel. I wouldn't get the Duke Race because its only slightly lighter and doesn't have as much travel. Also it is dual air which means twice the amount of seals could go bad. The Duke sl has a negative coil spring instead of air which suits me fine. Would like to get my hands on a Psylo to compare though
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Submitted by
A.C.
a Cross Country Rider
from Oakley,Cal Date Reviewed: October 24, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$260.00
Purchased At:
e-bay
Strengths:
reasnable weight,good looks,absorbs hits well 4" travell
switched from sid sl(2001)model because it had to much flex,im a big rider. Anyway the duke is a lot more stiff with the 30mm stanctions plus you get 100mm travel(4")I haven't ridden it for vey long but so far It's more of what I've been looking for. For me it tracks very well and I have more confidence downhilling with this fokk,feels more rugged like it can take more abuse.Much less expensive than the sid, then again expensive does not allways mean better!!!
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Submitted by
Allister
a Cross Country Rider
from Atlanta, GA Date Reviewed: October 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
All dirt is good.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
From someone on this site
Strengths:
Stiffness, Weight, Good Looking Fork
Weaknesses:
None yet, Plastic Rebound Adjuster on bottom of leg. Weight is actually 3.65 lbs. with steerer cut to 8 inches. I don't know where they're getting 3.3 lbs. unless RS weighed it with a 5 inch steerer.
MSRP is $360.00 got mine for $300.00. Good price on a good fork. The compression stroke feels great. (Marzocchi finally went to negative springs so this is a nice form of flattery.) Damping at small bumps and ripples is good, and Damping at Mid and Big Hits at speed (15-30mph) is Great. I replaced a 99 Z.1 BAM with this fork. The performance plus the 1 pound weight loss was worth it. Now we will see how it stacks up to the Marzocchi MXR Coil/Air I just picked up. RS and Marzocchi are coming out with some excellent mid range products. You don't have to spend alot to get alot. Very impressed with both companies for 2002.
If the seals last a year then a Great Fork, and will remain 5 turds across the board. If not will Drop 1-2 turds.
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