These forks look cool. I have had the forks 6 months and not yet encountered any problems. Steering is good. The only problem is that the disc mount isn't a recent international standard. Good thing hope have calipers for every occasion! I have got upgraded internals and from what i've heard they are slightly more advanced but work the same as the originals.
Similar Products Used: Junior T's, Monster T's, Boxxers, Shockworks DH1s
Bike Setup: Santa cruz Bullit (5th element rear shock) Hope hubs/discs
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eddie brannan
a Downhiller
from brooklyn
Date Reviewed: August 11, 2002
Strengths: read below
Weaknesses: read below
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just an update. i've had the fork about 9 months now, and no problems at all. still sweet, still plush, yuo can find the manual online and the customer service prople are mad cool. i love this fork, and people keep offering me more than i paid for it. when did you hear of downhill stuff appreciating in value?
Bike Setup: evil imperial now, sun dws, 3" gazzas, bad motherf*cker
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eddie
a Weekend Warrior
from brooklyn
Date Reviewed: February 5, 2002
Strengths: super plush, amazing rebound damping, light weight, good looks
Weaknesses: haven't encountered any yet
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bottom line is that this fork is perfect for my p.3, kicking up the angles just right for light dh and heavy dual slalom and just f*cking around in prospect park gapping steps and whatnot, having a blast. it is awesome compared to the p.3's stock z3 bomber which just feels like a crude spring assembly in comparison to the ud150's wonderfully plush, damped ride. i've read all the weaknesses listed here, and all i can say is mine doesn't leak (the seals were all replaced prior to my buying it) and i haven't cracked it up badly enough yet to determine whether the crowns are weak. so far, nothing but love for this badass fork
Similar Products Used: this is my first dual-crown fork. it replaces the marzocchi z3 on my p3 and pisses all over it
Bike Setup: 00 specialized p.3, front hayes mech, azonic shorty, kore strictly d, tioga dh saddle, otherwise stock
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Derek
a Downhiller
from Fresno
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2001
Strengths: Fairly Plush Stiff Light weight (for a DH fork)
Weaknesses: Poorly designed crowns Messy
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I have heard a number of claims of the forks leaking oil, which are all true. This is not the damper leaking oil as some have suggested but infact is the wet bath lubrication system. The UD 150 and other WB forks use a small amount of motor oil to provide the lubrication provided by an open bath system (marzocchi, rock shox) or grease (Manitou). Once the seals wear a bit, the motor oil will leak out of the legs as it dies with the left side of my fork. This becomes a signifigant problem when the oil gets all over your disc brakes, rendering them useless. Replacing the wiper seals fixes this problem .
I feel this fork rides pretty well. It is sufficiently stiff for most riders but the crows are very under designed. They really need a 4 bolt crown and possibly use 5mm screws instead. It is plush with the wet bath but gets a little sticky once all the oil is gone. I ride in very dusty conditions and the fork dries out in about 4 rides. It is easy enough to add oil. The for is 3 years old and is due for new bushings which seems to be a decent life span. The light weight is very nice because it keeps my super 8 at somewhat of a reasonable weight.
This is a pretty good fork over all but by no means great.With a better crown, less oil leakage and more adjustability, it would be great but for now I will just say above average.
Similar Products Used: White brothers FR-3(piece of SH*T)
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Allan S
a Downhiller
from NewYork
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2001
Strengths: Looks hot, its black, good dampening, smooth and plush, pretty stiff side/side and front/back, fits small headtubes (mine), easy to take apart and rebuild, nice linear travel, doesnt bottem out (compression bumpers), its shiny and light...
Weaknesses: lower legs scratch REALLY easily, very short upper tubes so its not good for bigger bikes, NO negative spring/travel, sinks into travel easily, not open oil, seals and wipers get screwed up fast, bolts strip and are too small/too few. hard to take springs out the first time, leaky damper adjuster, plastic adjuster knob, finish gets scratched easily. medium springs too light, even for average riders.
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if you can get it cheap, its a sweet fork. it has its probs but in the long run its plush, light, and stiff. i dont know what people are talking about, how flexy it is...just not true. it flexs like any fork, but its stiffer side/side than the other marzocchi forks ive used, except for the qr20, and far stiffer front/back. perfect for a light, 6" freeride bike with a short headtube.
Similar Products Used: z1qr20, manitou supernova, z3qr20, jrT..this was my first inverted
Bike Setup: 00' pipeline, hayes discs, etc
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Will
a Downhiller
from Ft. Collins, CO
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2000
Strengths: Squishy, cheap. Damping is effective. It looks pretty cool. Very strong fork, didn't fail when I stacked into a big rock at high speed.
Weaknesses: Not stiff (stiff as in twisting/flexing) enough for a 190lb rider. Though the damping is good, the adjuster does nothing but look pretty and rotate.
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I wish White Bros would just go all out and make some seriously massive and beefy crowns for this fork. A few grams of aluminum is cheap insurance that doesn't significantly add to the weight. Stronger crowns would make a huge difference. As an upside down fork, I expected it to be stiffer but it wasn't at all stiffer than the right side ups I've used. On real steep hairy descents the fork really flexes, especially when applying the front brake. It gets very skechy sometimes. The stanchions get bashed and very dirty in a real hurry if you don't use boots. I zip-tied lizard skins rear shock boots (the really long kind) to my fork and they work really well. Overall, the fork works well, it goes up and down and does it at a decently controlled rate. If you need a 6 inch fork and don't know about Stratos, buy it.
Similar Products Used: X-vert r, X-vert Ti. Tried a Boxxer once.
Bike Setup: Bullit, DH stuff, Hayes brakes, the usual.
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P.D. Nick
a Downhiller
from Denver, Colorado, USA
Date Reviewed: March 28, 2000
Strengths: Stiffer than Long Don Silver. Nice travel, easy maintence, easy to upgrade, easily adjustable, SMOOTH.
Weaknesses: Can't find one!!!!
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This fork is awesome. I was able to get it nearly half price so I was willingly to change to disc and 20mm. This fork is a must have for DH racers. This fork's cost is significantly less than the UD180DH which has seven inches of travel. There a $25 kit for the UD150DH that add one inch of travel, so in the long run this is one of the best forks in the world. WHITE BROTHERS RULE!!!!!!!!!
Similar Products Used: Marzocchi Monster T (demoed), Manitou X-Vert R (old fork), UD180DH.
Bike Setup: Mountain Cycle San Andreas DHS, XT/XTR, UD150DH, Hayes disc hyd.
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ZuLu Kay
a Downhiller
from Czech Republic
Date Reviewed: March 14, 2000
Strengths: plush, not progressive travel - plush on first cm as on 14th cm... nothing is as plush as this one
Weaknesses: Forks twist in their crowns when you crash hard. (ehm, even if its not so hard :(( and parts like sliders and crowns r tooooooooooooo expensive!
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after one year of downhilling no problemz, no oil leakages, like guys here r writing, no sticknes, just as plush as possible, i am 85kg, and riding with soft spring in it with little preload. Its easy to bottom out the forks, really, but who matters. there is never sound like CLUNK! I like this fork very much, as i type above, the only one weakness is weak crowns, cuz when u r in race and u fell down, (it neednt to be a hard crash and then u have to twist it back :(((((
and what is the winner for this year? i think (know) that this year i will rode WB150 again
i am giving four chilis, cuz spare parts r too expensive, and u have to buy new crowns to avoid twisting legz
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Tim Akhoundov
a Weekend Warrior
from Moscow
Date Reviewed: February 1, 2000
Strengths: Good forks, plenty of travel, plush and look great (let's face it).
Weaknesses: Even with my type of riding (no crazy downhills, etc), I managed to break the bolts out of the upper bracket. Had to buy a new bracket instead of rethreading the old one, and it is not cheap. If you have the same problem, get the top bracket from UD-180, fits perfectly and is way stronger (bigger bolts).
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Nice set of forx, design is not perfected though, UD-180 is a safer buy.
Similar Products Used: Marzocci Bomber-Z1 BAM, Rock-Shox forks
Bike Setup: San-Andreas frame, UD-150 up front, Fox Vanilla R back, Hope disks, Tioga tires, XT, etc.
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Thom
a Downhiller
from Uk
Date Reviewed: January 28, 2000
Strengths: The forks are very strong And work like ought
Weaknesses: The forks do somtimes top out and they do require regual services
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This is the fork I use for downhill racing here. It can easily uses it plush 6 inches but requires massive jumps to bottom them. I have only bottomed them out a few times. Use some pace gel and these forks can be plush as ought. Expoensive but worth ever penny!
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Brett
a Downhiller
from Klamath Falls, Oregon
Date Reviewed: November 13, 1999
Strengths: Plush Easy to maintain
Weaknesses: Leaks oil
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This fork is good. The suspension is plush and it is a great buy (if you get one on pro-deal) My fork leaked a fair amount of oil. This really didn't matter though, because I had Magura Gustava and they will stop you know matter what. One bad thing is the small crown bolts, they stip easily. Overall a good fork though.
Similar Products Used: Cannondale Moto(crappy fork) zzyzx
Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Super 8 XTR
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Im a kook
a Downhiller
from Australia
Date Reviewed: September 26, 1999
Strengths: Pretty smooth action, tyre clearance from well spaced legs
Weaknesses: Doesn't feel like a 6 fork, not as stiff as it's rivals, some are plusher and it's gotta have preload adjustment, I mean come on! Too progressive
Bottom Line:
Yeah, yeah it's ok but I don't think it's worth the dough, grab a Stratos MX-6 instead (better fork, not just for the price). You can't expect to make a pro-level DH fork which lacks the basic adjustments. Come on White Bros, get with it!