Strengths: Strong, stiff, great steering precision
Weaknesses: Not light.
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This fork came with the bike. I knew it was heavy so I asked for a Rock Shox SID XC (much lighter) for Christmas. Now I know where that weight went. Steering precision was out of the window, and when I hit the brakes I could actually see the fork deflecting back about 3". Not my cup of tea, I put the Marzocchi back on the bike and have been loving life ever since. Yeah, it's a heavy fork but it *works* and it has earned my confidence time and time again.
Strengths: Great Travel, Stiff, And everything under the sun!!!
Weaknesses: Nothing...
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This Fork kicks A**!!! It eats stairs for lunch, then for desert it will suck back any trail you throw at it. This fork is not for the weight weenies! I am a very aggressive rider and I have not been disappointed yet. If you want the better adjustments, then buy the Z3 BAM 80. But you should always have a set of allen keys in the trails, all you do is pop the rubber top off, two turns, and your done! This shock blows away anything in its category!!!
Similar Products Used: Manitou Magnum R (Not comparable!)
Bike Setup: Trek 6500 XT components
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Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Oakville, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 25, 2001
Strengths: Unique and good-looking. Stiff during the moment of impact. Seems to be well sealed. Good quality materials.
Weaknesses: Bushing play. Quite plush, but subpar when compared to a RockShox Hydracoil. Lack of convenient preload adjustment.
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Everyone always writes that their Marzocchis are soooo plush, but mine isn't. So I'm thinking that I just got a bad fork. On its own, it's plush enough and it does well to give you suspension, but compared to a Judy, it just isn't quite in the same league. Judys are BUTTERY smooth... my Bomber doesn't reach the same performance over small bumps, even though my springs are set up soft.
But besides that, I have no serious complaints. The fork has bushing play, but every fork does, and even if the external preload adjustment is inconvenient, at least it's not impossible.
On the bright side, the fork is striking to look at, and stiff during the bigger hits. It seems to be well sealed because nothing appears to get by the external scraper seal, and it is solidly constructed, with 30mm Easton stanchion tubes and an Easton steerer tube.
In summary, my main gripe with the fork is the lack of smoothness, since smoothness is what I look for mainly. As I said already, it's good, but why settle for good when the competition is offering VERY good? And to throw salt into the wound, where's the external rebound adjuster? RockShox and Manitous of this price range all have one. At the moment, I'm drooling over the '01 Judy SL, which is silky and delicious in comparison, with a rebound adjuster, lighter weight, AND a lower price!
Bike Setup: 2000 Rocky Mountain Element Race, an LX fs bike.
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Lasse Räsänen
a Cross Country Rider
from Finland
Date Reviewed: May 11, 2001
Strengths: Stifffffff! Works great. (Looks good)
Weaknesses: Weight. (No quick adjustments)
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After riding with a -97 Judy SL the biggest thing on my mind was: "God this is stiff!". When I want to ride fast on gravel I don't have to worry about being flung sideways anymore! Wow! Now the thing that limits riding is tire grip, not the limits of the fork.
The second thing on my mind was: "Hey, this actually works." Feels quite nice. But remember what I'm comparing it with...
But. It weighs 600 grams (=1.3lbs) more that my previous fork and since I'm 63kg (=140lbs) myself, I feel every gram :) Choosing a fork is always a compromise between function, stiffness, weight and price.
I'm happy with it but I also know that the next fork in this frame will be lighter.
Similar Products Used: RS Judy SL -97 with 63mm of travel.
Bike Setup: Hardtail XC-bike.
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Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: April 24, 2001
Strengths: Amazing looks, quality materials, plush travel in almost every situation, unique alternative.
Weaknesses: Harsh travel in one situation, slightly inconvenient preload adjustment, no boots, bushing play.
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The M80 looks sleek and strong, it's simply gorgeous in the setting sunlight. The stanchion tubes and the steerer tube are both made from Easton aluminum, something mostly unmatched by RockShox and Manitou forks. In terms of performance (most important to me), the fork is plush over slow bumps, quite plush over big fast bumps, but harsh over small fast bumps. (When I say slow and fast, I'm referring to not just the speed you hit the bump at, but also how slow or fast the fork is required to move. So a slow bump could be a large, smooth-grooved divot hit at a high speed, and a fast bump could be a sharp divot hit at a low speed.) Simply put, the only performance drawback comes when the fork has to track small bumps very quickly; the fork seems to seize up. Expect, after bombing down a fire road, to have sore hands and wrists. This was never a problem with my old Hydracoil Judy. Also, since you need an allen wrench to adjust the preload, you have to make sure you take one with you all the time, which can be mildly annoying. With the absence of boots, the fork feels (psychologically) less ready to brave the elements. In other words, I never feel comfortable using up a lot of travel when I see my stanchions coated with mud. And, as hard as it is to believe, this fork has more bushing play than my Judy, period. This has little to do with stiffness, of course, just the way soft springs have little to do with plushness. Sometimes I wonder how many people eagerly state that their Marzocchi's are 'plush' simply because they have softer springs. Anyway, all in all it's an acceptable fork, but nothing more. Actually it's a slightly disappointing stock fork on a fs bike that costs $1650 (American). You can't go wrong with Rock Shox or Manitou.
Similar Products Used: 1999 Rock Shox Judy C longtravel, 1 year.
Bike Setup: 2000 Rocky Mountain Element Race (fs), Shimano LX/XT, Fox Float R rear shock.
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Submitted by
Nick
from San Antonio, TX, USA*
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2001
Strengths: strong fork, plush, good abount of travel, looks sweet, it can handle anything i throw at it, easy to adjust
Weaknesses: none, it's an excellent fork
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i'm kind of a big guy at 190, and i was having trouble deciding between the SID and the Z3, but after testing them both, and talking to various people i went with the Z3. it's a stronger ride, and i think it can handle more. sure it is a little heavier, but my bike is light anyway, and that little bit didnt matter to me. bottom line...Marzocchi just rules, i'll never switch. this fork really could be ridden by anyone, free ride-xc, and dh.
Bike Setup: Trek Fuel 98, full XTR, Primo Platform Peddles, Easton Monkey bars, Marzocchi Z3 100
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Joe Barron
a Cross Country Rider
from Allentown, PA US
Date Reviewed: April 6, 2001
Strengths: Stiff, smooth, maintenance free
Weaknesses: Lack of tuning options
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I haven't had to think about this fork enough to write much of a review -- which is GOOD. Despite listing tuning options as a weakness, it didn't take much effort to get this fork dialed in perfectly (for me) using different springs and playing with oil level. Set it and forget it is how I would describe it. It just works. Exactly the same, every time, without fail, and without complaing. It never squeaks, rattles, groans, leaks, or noticeably flexes in any way under my 200+ lbs. After 1 year of fairly aggressive, sometimes punishing riding, it works exactly as it did when new, if not better, as the seals have worn in. As if that's not enough, I've not really done anything to maintain it.
For XC, I really can't imagine wanting more from a fork than this, except perhaps adjustable compression/rebound damping and MAYBE 10mm more travel. Yeah, it's not light, but you aren't considering this fork anyway if that matters to you.
Similar Products Used: Manitou Pro-C, test-rode/borrowed bikes with various other RS/Manitou forks.
Bike Setup: 2K Kona Pahoehoe -- Stock but for GS 7.0 Shifters/ rear Der, ODI grips, Time pedals, Terry Raven saddle.
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joe pickard
a Weekend Warrior
from Notttingham,England
Date Reviewed: March 10, 2001
Strengths: well its me again,and they still havcent put a foot wrong on me! me mates are still jealous of me cos these forks are even good at jumping with (cos sold kula frame for a roast)
Weaknesses: nope still nothing....well..... maybe the tiniest more amount of travel,but not too much thought as it will spoil the most awesome fork in its price range and against its rivals.Maybe marzocchi have already done this woith the z3 coil 100's....but i still luv em not too heavy either,just in case you're an xc yuppie
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still the kippers tits,and the blood red colour looks wicked i still think theyre top notch for the money still 5/5 on both BUY 'EM a well deserved 5 flaming turds or wotever they are, cos theyre not really chilis,are they?
Similar Products Used: judy xc,manitou mars,z1 BAM (my bruvvers,they were great too)
Bike Setup: kona roast (polished),z3 m80,MRP chain device,mavic x517 ceramic (quite strong for the weight,still havent buckled)full 8-speed xt,DMR,too much to list
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Ken
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City, Utah
Date Reviewed: November 19, 2000
Strengths: Performance and reliability just as good as a Z2 Atom 80, at a more easily obtainable pricepoint.
Weaknesses: Z2 Atom 80 gets marginally better microdampening.
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This should be their best selling fork, it performs tremendously well, feeling closer to the Z2 in ride quality than to any of the poorly-damped "competition". Read my two Z2 reviews and the Z3 is basically just as good.
Similar Products Used: Z2, Z4, rest of the "competition"
Bike Setup: My bro's RM Element Race, stock
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joe pickard
a Cross Country Rider
from nottinngham,england
Date Reviewed: November 14, 2000
Strengths: very very plush, build quality is second to none at this price range marzocchi credibility great marzocchi uk service backup did i mention plush? clean, cool design oh i forgot how plush it is!
Weaknesses: i havent found anty weaknesses yet and i dont hope to either
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for the price (£149 or for the yanks about $260)these forks are fantastic full stop. thats all i have to say. did i mention how plush they are? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
Similar Products Used: rockshox judy xc,manitou mars(i dont like them i dont know why though):-)
Bike Setup: kona kula ,full shimano lx/xt my lovely bombers,mavic,DMR etc...the list is huge
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Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Smithfield, NC
Date Reviewed: November 14, 2000
Strengths: Low maintenance, smooth, strong.
Weaknesses: haven't found any yet.
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The other shocks I've riden were all good. The Marzocchi is just a bit better thought. It isn't noisy like some of the Rock shox I've been on, and it works extremely well. I'm a heavy rider, 225#, so I had to go with the heavy spring.
I highly recommend this fork for anyone who wants a tough fork with a sweet ride. It's able to handling anything I've put it through so far.
Bike Setup: 2000 Kona Pahoehoe, 130mm stem, Serfas kevlar seat.
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Ondras
a Weekend Warrior
from Czech Republic
Date Reviewed: August 7, 2000
Strengths: Stiff, Plush, adjustability, it's black :-]
Weaknesses: After about 1 year of hard usage the M-arch get disconnect from sliders (both !) - 1 week in service and it' OK again
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I like this fork very much. I ride it for about 1 year and there is not any play unlike in Judy SL (It was after 1 month usage much worse than RST 381!) I works well. It's widely adjustable - the oil level makes wonders (try different oil volumes for each leg). The only problem was disconnecting of the arch and sliders, but it was quickly fixed by Czech Marzocchi dealer - so 1 chili down.
Bike Setup: racebike FUN, FS, ESP7.0, formula discs. http://rbfun.zde.cz (in czech language only, but lot of photos)
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rm_no_compromise
a Weekend Warrior
from orlando,FL USA
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2000
Strengths: I believe this fork is one of the "cheaper" forks offered by the Marzocchi line up. However, this is truely a remarkable value. Super smooth and stiff even for a big guy like myself. Great value.
Weaknesses: The fork has these little rubber tabs that that go on top of the adjustment setting and they come off easily. This is no big deal really, but it looks better with them:) It's a bummer when you lose one:) If you're looking for a light fork, look at the "higher end" marzocchi. This fork is almost 4lbs
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For the price, I think it's a good deal. The fork performs really well and like I mentioned, Im a big guy. It might be a little heavy for some of you but to me that's not an issue as I prefer to have "bombproof" components than "light".
Bike Setup: Rocky Mountain Oxygen Race '00, Race Face LPs, XT/LX
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Submitted by
Ben
a Cross Country Rider
from ACT, Australia
Date Reviewed: February 6, 2000
Strengths: Stiff, good amount of travel for a hardtail (80 mm), feels very smooth on the trails.
Weaknesses: The preload adjusters could be easier to access.
Bottom Line:
I've only had this fork for a month so far but it already feels a lot better than my Indy C's, a lot stiffer and smoother. I've added some fork boots (lizard skins) to keep out the dust and it should mean less maintenance. I should have upgraded to a better fork a long time ago if I knew it would make such a difference to my riding. I've found that I'm now picking lines downhill that I wouldn't have choosen before and my confidence is growing with every ride. I am impressed with the design of the fork and will probably continue buying Bombers in the future.