Favorite Trail: Seaton Hiking Trail , Durham Forest ..Seaton has the edge on technical drops and s@#t
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: trailblazers
Similar Products Used: Name it ....
Bike Setup: Klein Attitude XV , XTR Cranks Rear D Front,V brakes , shifters and brake levers ..seperate , Bonrager Race Lite rear wheel Tubless with a little help from Stan Maxxis 380 ,Chris King front mated to a Mavic 517 with double butted DT Swiss spokes , Thompson Seapost , toped by the 165grm Selle Itale Flyte sadelle , Ritchey WCS Stem holding a Maxim Carbon Rizer bar
Great fork, very adjustable, I use it for xc-dj-dh, whatever I want! You just have to dial it in properly (OIL is the hardest!)and you fly! A little heavy for xc but it's worth it. Very low maintnance requiered. I never had a single problem with the fork. Because of that I purchased another zocchi for my second bike. Very good forks, recommend!
Similar Products Used: 96 Rock Shox Judy, 98 Rock Shox Judy TT (crap), 99 Manitou SX Ti, 01 Marzocchi Z3 QR 20 5 (inch travel)
Bike Setup: 98 Specialized FSR Comp, 4 inch travel
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: January 20, 2003
Strengths: Everything but the big problem!
Weaknesses: One word - Spiking. This fork has permanently destroyed my wrists. I have spent way too much time and money trying to get these things working properly (springs, oil changes, cleaning out, new bushes and seals,) all the LBSs that i've been to here in the UK are not clued up on the problem, which i finally heard about from the UK importer - the damping cartridge is fatally flawed - there is simply way too much high speed compression damping, even with lightweight oil.
It's appalling that such an expensive top of the line fork should have such a gross flaw.
I am planning to drill out the compression cartridge as directed by windwave before i get out for my next ride.
This fork would probably be great if they hadn't messed up the compression cartridge so badly. They should have done a recall or something. As the fork stands it spikes so badly that it really knackers your hands and wrists.
Hopefully once i've modded it it will finally work, after 3 years of wasting my time.
I would have binned them long ago if i'd had the money to replace them!
Similar Products Used: Psylo SL, Judy XC, Z5, Z3 QR20
Bike Setup: Kona Chute XS, Z1 CR, XTR cranks, Hope C2, XT, DMR, F.U.N.N., Tioga, Mavic, etc.
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2001
Strengths: Plush, Stiff, Adjustable
Weaknesses: High Price
Plush, Stiff, Adjustable. I am 240 lbs and I bought this shock because air/coil kept bottoming out on me. After upgrading to the heavier coil and breaking the shock in for about 8 rides this thing rocks. I rarely slow for even the most scary terrain. At the end of a downhill I often wait several minutes for the rest of the pack. This is all due to confidence this shock has given me. It eats up the terrain and never bottoms out. I can't say enough good things. It's like riding a motorcycle instead of a mountain bike on the down hill. Do the right thing, make your mama proud and buy Oil/coil.
Bike Setup: Hand made steel Frame, XT all around, bontregar race wheels
a Weekend Warrior
from Minneapolis, MN
Date Reviewed: June 21, 2001
Strengths: It's a Marzochi - see all pluses below. To reiterate, stiff, plush, stiff, plush, stiff, plush, etc. Got a polished version new and uncut off eBay for $200 - hard to beat.
Weaknesses: I suppose I could gripe about weight but that's a waste of time. Spring kit info is confusing - i.e. it comes stock with 4" heavy (170-205lbs) springs although you're not explicity told that. LBSs and aftermarket folks (Mountainspeed) are just as confused in terms of what springs are actually spec'd in the fork. If you're converting to 5", which I've done, be sure that the folks ordering the springs for you get both new, longer main springs (proper rate per your weight and riding style) and new, shorter top out springs (one rate) - a total of 4 new springs.
The 5" kit skews the geometry of my FSR slightly considering it was designed with 100mm of travel in mind. I don't mind though and the option of installing the new ECC cartridge (you need the 5" kit to do this) could take care of any climbing issues. Probably the best darn fork available. Period. Yes it's heavier. Yes there's a nominal "break-in" time. Yes it kicks the a$$ of any and all competitors. At MSRP - 4 burnin' turds. At any lesser price 5 all-around.
Similar Products Used: RS Indy & Judy. The latter can be made acceptable, the former a POS. Marzocchi Z2 Alloy on my Jamis Dragon HT - another excellent fork. That old rigid number on my Schwinn High Sierra!
Bike Setup: '00 FSR XC, Z1CR w/ 5" X-Heavy (195-240) spring kit, ECC kit on the way!, Red Rhynos w/ XT hubs, Thompson Elite seat post, crappy S-Works cranks and BB, XT rr der, LX fr der, Time ATAC, Titec Hell Bent bar, Titec Berzerker saddle, TO BE INSTALLED: Mountainspeed X-Rated Kit, new '01 FSR rear end with disc tabs, Float R and Avid Mech Discs front and rear!
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose Ca USA
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2001
Strengths: It's a Marzocchi fork which realy says enough..... but I'll go on. Plushhhhh good adjustablity, stiff. Actually climbs well for a long fork.
Weaknesses: Hmmmmmmmmm color??? That's a toughie
I was a little surprised at first as I was expecting it to be awesome out of the box. Not so. I've got about 100 miles on it now and it seems to be performing better so it obviously has a break in period. Reading another review I will have to check the oil level to see if that was a problem. Bottom line is it's a marzocchi fork and after trying just about all manufactures it really stands above the rest. If you only go riding once a week or less you may be better off with the less expensive forks but if you are avid and want to really enjoy riding then buy a zoke fork. This is my third and I smile every time I go down hill. Because it's last years model I scored on a great deal so I have to go 5 and 5.
Bike Setup: 2001 Turner XCE, XT throughout, Chris King throughout, disc, Mavic 519, Raceface Bars, Pan. FirePros, Yeti Grips, SDG BelAir
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View, California
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2001
Strengths: damping control and adjustability, serviceability, no plastic anywhere except for the spring seats
Weaknesses: weight, I guess, although this may the near the practical limited for a 100-130mm travel fork that works, is rigid and durable and doesn't cost $1000
My 2000 Z.1 CR arrived with a broken topout spring and the oil level at 70mm, low by 20mm according to the specified standard of 50mm.
I had removed the cap assemblies to confirm that the red “heavy” springs were in my fork and found that paint had flaked off into the oil and that the oil level was low (70mm). Damping was unaffected by the seemingly low oil level and it may be that Marzocchi is sending them out with lower oil levels to make more of the travel accessible to more riders as a lower oil level will reduce the overall spring rate.
At that point, I decided to disassemble as far as practical, flush the internals and refill with Redline synthetic 5-weight @ 50mm in both legs. That’s when I found the broken topout spring. There was no sign of the 1 ½ coil that had broken off so it must have been assembled with a broken spring.
After a few emails to Marzocchi’s tech department, each of which was returned the following business day, I had a new pair of topout springs within a week. Excellent communication and service.
This fork replaces a ’98 Judy SL with which I’ve had no mechanical problems but has poor damping characteristics, limited adjustability and very limited tuneability with too little rebound damping that meant that it took a few cycles for the bike to settle after a jump or hard corner entry. Lent no confidence. It was light for a coil fork at 1512 grams (3.33 lbs) with about 190mm of steerer and a Chris King lower race.
My 2000 Z.1 CR with “satin” sliders weighs 2102 grams (4.624 lbs) with about 190mm of steerer, 50mm oil height and a Chris King lower race so I added almost 1.3 pounds which seemed like a horrible amount of weight to add but the added weight is nothing in comparison to the instant increase in confidence that I now have in the front end and the fork is working as POORLY as it’s ever going to. The bushings and seals still need to break-in and all I did with setup was set the preload to zero, open the compression all the way and adjusted the rebound until it felt about right.
Climbing is something I have to do not want to do so I was prepared to live with whatever difficulty would be added by the Z.1. Again, it hasn’t been a big deal. Between the stiff springs resisting compression and topout springs resisting extension, the fork bobs very little with my climbing style which is standing (saving my balls and my personal Hungarian sausage for something infinitely better than riding UP another F’in hill) and chugging along in the biggest gear that I can sustain easily. If anything, the added weight of the Z.1 compared to the Judy is helping more to keep the front end down than it is hurting by pushing more weight. In fact, with the Z.1 my Heckler carries 50% of its 27.0 lb weight on the front wheel.If I find it to be too front-heavy, I’ll buy a shorter stem (105mm x 10 now).
With my Heckler and 170# weight, the only setup change I've made to the rest of the bike was to install a 350# shock spring in place of the #300 to balance the bike and raise the rear end a little for cornering.
These forks are easy to service and tune and return excellent control and steering precision. Customer service has been excellent. Downloaded tech and tuning manuals are clear and informative.
Allowing a broken topout spring to make it into my fork is obviously bad quality control but luckily I found it and it wasn’t a big deal for me. I would recommend to anyone that buys these or any other coil Marzocchi fork to take steel wool or Scotchbrite and remove the marking paint from the main springs to keep the paint out of the oil, valving and bushings.
I'm giving 5's because this fork is easy to work on, just plain works and has brought trust to my front end.