From Slopestyle to singletrack, the 36 VAN can do it all. Boasting the same stout construction as our 36 TALAS - position sensitive damper, 36 mm stanchions, 20 mm stepped thru-axle, separately adjustable high and low speed compression damping circuits, adjustable rebound, and a healthy 160 mm of coil spring travel. From huge air and hard landings to trail trash and stutter bumps - the 36 VAN sucks it all up and makes the world smooth again.
Submitted by
Brent365
a Downhiller
from BC Interior Date Reviewed: June 24, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Builders Only
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Solid coil fork, versatile as claimed. Soaks up big hits once adjusted properly, is light enough to pedal uphill.
Weaknesses:
Seals allow quick contamination of oil, therefore requires frequent service. If stantions become damaged, crown/steer tube/stantion replacement is very expensive.
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi 888, 55, Manitou triple clamp
Bike Setup:
Giant Reign X
Bottom Line:
Excellent ride quality. A good quality fork that requires frequent preventative maintenance. If you want a fork that you can neglect service for a year look elsewhere (Marzocchi). It is an all round fork, so as long as you don't expect it to perform like a 200mm Boxxer and be as light as a 100mm XC fork, you will be happy with it. Be aware that many riders may need to change the weight of the coil spring for this fork to perform properly. This is a $50 cost.
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Submitted by
Andrew
a Downhiller
from Coupeville, WA Date Reviewed: August 5, 2007
Favorite Trail:
A-Line
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
e-bay
Strengths:
Plush, true adjustability (the rebound valve actually adjusts the rebound and the preload actually adjusts the preload... before this fork I never used a fork where you can feel a difference with just a click or two), very durable and laterally stiff.
Weaknesses:
Expensive, the stock spring is way too light. I am 185 lbs and I use the extra stiff spring that is meant for someone from 215-240 lbs (Yellow Spring) but that one works perfectly. This may just be preference but I definitely bottomed out the stock spring (Blue Spring) way too many times.
Bike Setup:
Specialized SX Trail II (Stock except for carbon rizer bar and 60mm stem).
Bottom Line:
This review is for the VAN R not the RC which came stock on my Specialized SX Trail II (sweet bike by the way). I was disappointed with how easy it was to bottom out this fork at first but then I switched to the yellow spring and it has worked much better. I still use all 160mm of travel but have not bottomed out with the new spring. The fork is very stiff laterally and there is no noticable flex. I have not tried any tire larger than 2.5" but there is definitely clearance for a much larger tire. This is definitely the coolest looking fork I've ever used if looks matter.
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Submitted by
Big Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from Oakland, Cali, USA Date Reviewed: January 22, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Chaparal
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
Second Hand
Strengths:
Light, stiff, plush, laterally very stiff, positively a point and shoot fork.
Weaknesses:
Travel adjust would be nice but didn't stop me from buying this fork.
Similar Products Used:
Super T(2001 and 2004), Shiver 2004, Rockshox Pike Team Coil, Pike 454 Air U-Turn, Z1FR1(150mm), 66RC 170mm, 888RC
Bike Setup:
2004 Bullit, DHX 5.0 Coil, Fox 36 Vanilla R with extra heavy spring, DeeMax wheels with Mich. 16/24 tubeless tires, Brake Therapy Floater, RF Atlas Cranks, Wellgo mag flats, Juicy 5's 203mm, FSA DH Carbon Bar, Diabolus stem, Thomson post and SDG Belair saddle, Sram X9 shifters and rear deraileur,XT front deraileur, E.thirtheen DRS chainguide. 37lbs.
Bottom Line:
This review is for the 36 Vanilla R model fork. I've read quite a few comments about the 36 Vanillas being too linear and bottoming easily but I have the exact opposite impression of this fork. I'm 240lbs geared up so if this fork is going to get bottomed out then it should certainly happen under my fat ass. I upgraded the spring to the extra heavy model which was ordered from Fox. I have yet to bottom this fork but havn't dropped anything over 5-6' yet. In fact, I have not gotten over 5" of travel out of this fork. I like having that reserve in case I do hit something big. I only run 1 click of pre-load and about 3-4 clicks of rebound. This fork is plush. I do find the fork a little tough to climb up the steep climbs. Point it downhill and let her rip though. This is a great set up for my Bullit. I think Fox has done a pretty nice job with this fork. I believe it would be best to work a travel adjust of some sort in the design as all the emerging competition has this feature. I think this fork is way too expensive and that will cost 1 Chili.
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Submitted by
Tom Cosgrove
a Weekend Warrior
from Alta loma, ca. Date Reviewed: January 20, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Portal trl utah
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
incycle san dimas
Strengths:
Stiff and light to 6.3 of travel, nice black color.
Weaknesses:
Blew out dampening, fork never felt plush and progressive like other coils, had to use hvy spring to get sag correct. I am 180 with gear. No quick release like rock shock!
Similar Products Used:
05 minute, nixons - junk sent back 5 times, 06 nixon used 3 times and blew out, got refund, 07 talas 36 good so far 3 rides.
Bike Setup:
5 spot 28 lbs, 06 enduro 32 lbs all the goodies.
Bottom Line:
Its frustrating to spend a ton of money on something and have it not work right. Hopefully when I get it back it will be better. Comon fox I expect better! You buy a fork like this expect it to be riden hard!
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Submitted by
Mike
a
from Woodhaven, NY Date Reviewed: September 17, 2006
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Light, stiff, has rebound and high/low speed compression adjustments, comes with 3 springs. Came stock with internal bottom out resistance set to medium for very linear travel, good for aggressive trail riding.
Weaknesses:
Expensive. Currently too linear for downhill use, tends to bottom out a lot. Low speed compression adjustments slightly affect the high speed adjustments, they're not totally independant it seems. Cartridge system not self servicable for the most part, must send back to Fox for internal bottom out adjustments, oil change etc. Developed creaking at crown/stanchion interface. Axle hex fitting moved out on me when I forgot to undo the pinch bolts enough during wheel removal.
Bottom Line:
I would definitely use this fork for trail, freeride and light downhill, but for pure downhill use I'd prefer the bottom out resistance increased (which they have apparantly done to the 07 forks). I've messed with the compression settings and the only way I can prevent it from bottoming out is to make it too stiff to handle anything but smooth trails with the occasional drop. I'm already running the heaviest supplied spring when I should be running the medium or soft. Personally, I think they should have made the fork with an external bottom out adjustment like their DHX 5 shock or Marzocchi's RC2X. I will be sending it in to Fox for service, hopefully it will come back performing flawless and I'll do another review.
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Submitted by
John
a Downhiller
from Moray, UK Date Reviewed: September 11, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Fort Bill
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Light, Stiff, Lovely action, everything.....
Weaknesses:
I can only ride one at a time!
Similar Products Used:
Marz 888, Z1, Fox, 36TALAS 40RC2
Bike Setup:
SC Nomad, DHx Air, XTR kit. Hadley/ZTR wheels.
Bottom Line:
This fork rocks, I have 40's on a SC Vp free, these forks on a Nomad and I am selling the Vp free, as there is nothing big enough in the UK to warrant such a bike and fork. I ride everything from all day XC rides to DH, with double black XC and DH being my favourite game. I like to ride a lighter spring than recommended and keep the bike light at all times, if I go out for some drops and heavy playing then I put the heavier spring in, it only takes 2 mins. 888's feel cheap in comparison, as do the Z1's, I know they cheaper, but you do get what you pay for. Who knows what will happen now the Totems are out from RS, lets see if they work. It will not be ling now until DH races are won by guys on 7” max travel bikes air shocks on the rear and single crown coils or even air on the front! Big bikes only slow you down!!!!!!
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Submitted by
Brian
a Downhiller
from San Diego, Ca Date Reviewed: September 4, 2006
Favorite Trail:
The one that has a shuttle up
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Beyond Bike
Strengths:
Light, smooth and plenty of travel.
Weaknesses:
Price
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi Z.1 FR, Manitou Travis Single 150.
Bike Setup:
SC Bullit freeride w/ 5th Element shock, Hayes 8" hydrau, SRAM....and more.
Bottom Line:
I know 800 bones is a big chuck of change for this fork and BELIEVE ME.....I had to think about it many times before I bought it. Then I took my bike up to BIG BEAR ( Oh yes, they do let 6" travel with 2.5 tire max.) After my first run down the steep fire roads.....I knew it was the best choice. It soaks up bumps and humps like a like a chick on her prom date. The fork is worth ever penny so stop smoking cigarettes and save your money coz it is worth it. Next stop.....Mammoth.
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Submitted by
Ahren
a Downhiller
from Truckee Date Reviewed: August 6, 2006
This fork is a expensive waste of garage space. From the day I got it I was unhappy with it. First I found that it was way too soft (even with the heaviest spring and 15 weight oil with both internal and external boost valves at maximum) I weigh about 175 lbs before breakfast and the fork has a spring for a 230 lb rider in it. It is literally as stiff as it can possible be, and still, it is as flaccid as your 90 year old grand father before taking his little blue pill. Sure it steers well with the 36 mill sliders, but that doesn't matter if it bottoms out on every 2 foot drop. (I'm being serious here, I regularly use 1/2 travel when riding off curbs) Total Crap, no wonder Lopes rides Marzocchi now. Ok enough about the limp feeling, after riding this fork for 3 very unsatisfying months, the Crown began to make a death creak. It sounds like a broken headset popping every time I grab the front brake. At this point the fork is sitting in my garage wating to be sent back to FOX. But even if it gets fixed, it will never again find a place on any bike I will ever ride, ever. Bad Form FOX, Bad Form.
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Submitted by
David
a
from Redmond, Washington Date Reviewed: July 1, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
This review is actually for the 2007 36 Van RC2, which I received instead of the '06 that I ordered. Apparently Fox ran out of '06 36's and had to scramble with the '07 product. Not a problem with me! You all know this is a sweet fork, so here is what makes it sweeter for '07: very good bottom out resistance so you can run less high-speed compression damping, better color/graphics (my opinion), improved axle cap (I only read this somewhere, since I don't have experience on prior models).
Weaknesses:
none so far, and none expected given the reputation of Fox's Vanilla forks
My value rating is for the price I paid, but let's face it, forks have actually gotten good enough to cost $900
Similar Products Used:
'05 Manitou Nixon Elite, QR version
Bike Setup:
'05 Giant Reign. The 36 Van slackens things up a bit, and prevents the rear from blowing through the travel too fast. The Reign still climbs well even with the extra inch of axle-to-crown.
Bottom Line:
Awesome fork. Word has it that if you order a bike that comes with Fox product, you will now get '07 product. I ordered direct from Fox (I work at a bike shop) and had to wait 6 weeks, but that's probably because they had to build the fork in that time.
I look forward to pushing my limits on this fork.
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Submitted by
Moorsy
a Weekend Warrior
from Bury England Date Reviewed: May 12, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Whistler BC
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
leisure lakes
Strengths:
Buy them if you want troble free riding and the best performance.
Weaknesses:
None as i can think ofsome say the price but you only get what you pay for
Similar Products Used:
ZI/ 32 VANS/ 36 TALAS RC2
Bike Setup:
Orange 66 DHX coil 36RC2 vans all the nice bits
Bottom Line:
The bottom line for me is you get the best performance,safe do anything fork with thw right setting. also the back up from MOJO is outstanding thay are a asset to Fox
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Submitted by
johnny
a Downhiller
from boston Date Reviewed: May 8, 2006
my crown started creaking pretty badly after a couple months of riding (2x a week). the stepped axle is nice, but the treads are too fine to really muscle down on you hub. not a big deal if your hub tolerances are good, but i have a hugi that works well with my zokes - but knocks around on this fork.
Similar Products Used:
super-t, z150, shiver sc
Bike Setup:
2003 bullit, hadley, hayes, king, etc....
Bottom Line:
every fork is going to be a compromise. nothing that weighs 4 lbs is going to perform like a 8 lb dual coil, dual hscv DC. that said, this is a really versatile fork. it does well at the kind of riding it was designed for. i think it also depends alot on the bike (obviously). after mine started creaking, i took it off and put on my 2003 super-t, and it was like night and day. the zoke seemed way more sensitive, more progressive, and works better in terms of geometry with my bike (more rear bias).
if you're a turner guy (or gal) that like that lively/springy romic feel, you'll probabaly dig it. if you like a really sensitive, progressive "big bike" feel, then you may want to look elsewhere. i'll post an update when i see how fox handles my creaky crown.
werd.
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Submitted by
Mateen Cleeves
a Weekend Warrior
from MI Date Reviewed: April 23, 2006
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Came on bike
Strengths:
Stiff Light Adjustments Fox gives you work (see weaknesses)
Weaknesses:
You cannot adjust bottom out dampening or progressiveness of travel. This is idiotic on a so-called "big hit" fork.
Similar Products Used:
Z-1, 888R, 66VF, Regular Fox Van (the little one)
Bike Setup:
SC Nomad with DHX Air
Bottom Line:
This fork would be the perfect SC big hit fork if there was some way to adjust the bottom out dampening without sending the fork back to Fox. Personally, when I pay $900 for a fork, I want to use it. Not mail it back and forth across the country. Everything else works as advertised and it is stiff and burly for sure.
Maybe I'm spoiled from riding Marzocchi for several years but slamming the fork against the bottom out bumper is not cool. And, before you comment, everything else is set up correctly. Firm spring (almost no sag), and high speed compression dampening way up. I'm in the process of getting a loaner bike set up so I can get this fixed once and for all.
By the way, the DHX Air rear is legit. Works amazing and has adjustable bottom out dampening that makes it feel truly bottomless. Why wouldn't they give you the same adjustment on the fork? Get rid of the low speed compression and give us bottom out, its a big hit fork!
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Submitted by
Andrew
a
from Charlottesville, VA, USA Date Reviewed: April 23, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Go-Ride
Strengths:
Strong & stiff, very plush, adjustments actually work, easy to change springs to suit weight/riding style.
Weaknesses:
Cable guide is a bit cheesy, and oil rings on stanchions (typical Fox, from my experience, and causes no problems).
Similar Products Used:
Breakout +, Firefly, Pike, Talas 36.
Bike Setup:
'06 Turner RFX w/ stuff
Bottom Line:
I purchased the RFX as my one, "do everything" bike, and figured the VAN 36RC2 would be the perfect compliment. It turns out I was spot on! The VAN is exceptionally plush, easily tune-able for different trail conditions, and extremely stiff. I use it for every day trail rides, and the occasional hooligan session, and have zero complaints. The head angle on my RFX is now quite slack, making steep climbs a bit of a pain. However, I've experienced no problems with wandering and washouts, and the downhills are a delight. 5 chilis, without reservation.
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Submitted by
Nick
a
from Los Angeles Date Reviewed: February 15, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$700.00
Strengths:
Huge stanchions, buttery smooth, very light for the travel.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
Marz. Z150sl, '03 Dorado, '05 Dorado
Bike Setup:
Uzzi VPX, Hope M4's, Crossmax XL
Bottom Line:
I wasn't sure if the fork travel would match the rear travel of the bike but when I rode it, it felt awesome. The head angle was just right and the Fox front matched perfectly with the DHX rear. I wanted to lighten up my bike for all mountain use and now, alas, it's the perfect bike. The fork felt plush right out of the box thanks to Fox's initial setup. I haven't perfected the fork's tuning capabilities but I imagine it can only get better. Highly recommended product.
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Submitted by
gonzostrike
a Downhiller
from missoula mt Date Reviewed: February 1, 2006
Favorite Trail:
bobo's spastic neurons
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Go-Ride
Strengths:
weight quality of travel tunability overall performance
Weaknesses:
slightly expensive -- but what else compares? no travel adjust for climbing ease
this is a bit of genius from Bob Fox & Co. changed my 6-Pack from a fun descender to a wicked-great-in-every-way descender. makes me think of selling my big bike. the travel is amazing, the wheel/tire always stay glued to the ground, there is no fore/aft, sideways or twisting deflection. the bike weighs the same as it did with the Firefly Plus, but performs worlds better.
no ETA or RTWD or travel adjust means that if you really like XC oriented climbing positions on your bike, check your ride height with this fork before you buy it. your front end may stay too tall for you, but you can usually get around that with some technique changes. or a bit more walking when it's really steep.
5/5 chilis.
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Submitted by
Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from UK Date Reviewed: January 10, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Inners Black
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes UK
Strengths:
Big and Tuff
Weaknesses:
Not cheap.
Similar Products Used:
Marz AM SL, Fox 32 Vanillas, Maverick DUC32
Bike Setup:
2005 S-Works Enduro, full XTR.
Bottom Line:
Lovely fork.
Smoooooth action, gives all its travel without fuss (unlike AM SL), no deflection (unlike every other fork) and looks like it would crush rocks in front of it rather than go over them.
Fox backup excellent in the UK (Well done Mojo!) but I don't think I am likely to need it with such a heavy duty fork. Chose Vanilla over TALAS due to stories of travel erosion on TALAS, and lack of user servicing on TALAS. Oh, and they are not brown!
Not the lightest fork, but possibly one of the strongest. If that suits your riding, you cannot go wrong.
Can't recommend it highly enough, you get what you pay for.
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Submitted by
Matt Bartlett
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin Date Reviewed: December 28, 2005
Favorite Trail:
anything rocky
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Stiff,super smooth,adjustablility,came with 3 springs
Weaknesses:
Price ? (christmas present)
Similar Products Used:
Marz z1 fr, fox rl125 vanilla
Bike Setup:
Titus supermoto, typical stuff
Bottom Line:
Only ridden a couple times soooo. Super smooth right out of the box. I loved my vanilla 125 coil but at the time fox didn't make a 20mm axle fork so I bought a z1 fr 130 (great fork too). The fox van36 had 160mm of travel and is only 20 grams lighter than the z1 but stiffer. I was thrilled to find that fox included 3 coil springs with the shock (way to go FOX!!). @ 145 lbs I always had to purchase an after market spring. The other great thing ?. I can easily adjust the fork to get the full 160 mm of travel during trail riding without having to jump off a cliff to get that last inch of travel. I gave the value rating a 4 because you can buy some frames for the cost of this shock but wait a few months and the price will problably drop a couple hundred dollars.
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Submitted by
Rob
a Weekend Warrior
from OC Date Reviewed: December 17, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Trabuco
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$850.00
Strengths:
Everything, it is simply the best fork I've every owned so far.
Weaknesses:
Wish it had slightly faster rebound tuning
Similar Products Used:
Pike coil, Z1 FR1, Super T, Push'd Talas, Psylo, etc.
Bike Setup:
6 Pack with DHX air in back
Bottom Line:
This fork follows the terrain and keeps the front tire glued to the ground. It is so plush and also the stiffest fork laterally that I've ever owned (including my '04 SuperT). I weigh 160lbs and use the stock spring and it feels perfect for my weight with no preload and doing 3-5ft drops. I do occasionally miss the ETA of my old Z1 FR1, but this fork blows it away on the downhill. Just the price that keeps it from getting 5 flaming chilis on value.
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Submitted by
Franc Diaz
a Weekend Warrior
from Sant Just, BCN (Catalunya) Date Reviewed: November 30, 2005
Favorite Trail:
no matter the trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
- Travel - 20 mm axel - Stiffness - Tunning options - Black colored (at last...) - Weight (2.5 kg, 200 grms more than my Z1 '04)
Coming from a 130mm standard drop outs, is like flying in a Cessna and moving to a Imperial starship.
I don't know if its the travel or the 20mm axle or the stiffness of the thing, but now I don't have to look where I point my bike. Just grip the handlebar and go downhill. Drops, jumps, rock gardens, it doesn't matter, your 36 van can handle it smooth and safely.
Moreover you have all those knobs to fine tune your fork according to your needs.
I usually used the ETA lever in my old Z1 but I don't miss it in the 36VAN. If you want to reduce the travel you have to go to the 36 TALAS but this is an air assisted fork.
Buy it if you need a light single crown fork but very stiff
The bottom line is that it has been a very nice product to add to my Heckler. Now I enjoy more my downhills.
Value: 5 chilis because it performs very very well Overall: 4 chilis because of the price
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Submitted by
amir
a Weekend Warrior
from Kuala Lumpur, malaysia Date Reviewed: November 29, 2005
Favorite Trail:
kiara
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$630.00
Purchased At:
bikepro
Strengths:
This is a review on the Van R. The fork is stout without the weight penalty. Weighs only 5.4 on the scale (incl. the axle)although it looks much heavier. Very precise handling, buttery smooth out of the box. Preload and rebound knobs are high quality with positive clicks. Long axle to crown measurement (1550mm) doesn't seem to hinder climbing. Encourages rider to push the envelope.
Weaknesses:
The 2mm bolt for the cable guide is too small for a burly product such as this. As predicted it came off and is lost after 2nd ride. Back to good ole zip tie.
Similar Products Used:
None in the diameter or travel of the 36. Others were 130mm travel Marzocchi DJ1 and Vanilla RL.
Bike Setup:
Xtension Xplorer with swinger 4 way coil over 6.5" travel and other fairly overbuilt components
Bottom Line:
I wanted a 6 inch fork to match the rear travel of my bike. I had the Vanilla on my old Heckler for 3 years and imho it was the best fork I had ever ridden in terms of rigidity, plushness, ease of maintenance and weight. The Van 36 replicates the exact qualities of the Vanilla with some extra travel and the added rigidity of a through axle. Although quite tall the fork doesn't mess up the geometry of the bike too much. The bike rides and climbs as it always does (ie slowly). The fork handles tight singletracks and switchbacks just as well as shorter travel forks do. It is also a good fork for all riding. The descents are amazing on this fork though. The fork holds its lines and doesn't get deflected by either roots or rocks. It redefines point and shoot. The laser etched aluminium knobs on the fork legs give very positive clicks and the adjustments even as little as three clicks are quite perceptible on the trail. This is a very capable fork, much more capable than this bike handler. In my hands it'll never likely to realize its fullest potential. Of course it is not an xc race fork but if you need just one fork for trail riding and the occasional foray into freeriding and downhilling, this fork comes highly recommended.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Weekend Warrior
from Hunts,Wilmington ,DE Date Reviewed: November 20, 2005
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$825.00
Strengths:
Plush,No flex,Light for 160mm travel All mountain fork. Climbs as if it was a 100mm travel fork. Descends as if it had 200mm travel. Just does what's it's told and then some.
Weaknesses:
Not one Weakness. However less then a month riding time. So far though Excellent!
Similar Products Used:
All fox products
Bike Setup:
Diamondback Coil Ex
Bottom Line:
Highly Recommended.No need for travel adjustment climbs just fine plows through trail.
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