Manitou Stance Kingpin 2005 Front Shocks

2.4/5 (92 Reviews)
MSRP : $499.95


Product Description

Everyone knows that dual-crown forks offer superior performance for the most aggressive riders, but until now, the price has been prohibitive. Enter the Stance - a new line from Manitou that delivers Sherman-style performance at an amazing price.


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User Reviews

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by ajuscoboy a Downhiller from mexico city, mexico

Date Reviewed: January 25, 2011

Strengths:    Its a Manitou... ,170mm

Weaknesses:    CRAP!! this is a crap

Bottom Line:   
Its a Crap, i bought the first one and in one week it got a fissure. Then i bought another one and the same thing. I was not doing DH it was moore freeride with 2m Drops

then, i bought a drop off, its much better.

DONT BUY A STANCE!! (if they are selling you at 40 bucks its ok but its gonna be destroyed in less than 1 year)

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Favorite Trail:   amanzalocos

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $300.00

Purchased At:   friend

Similar Products Used:   Marzocchi Drop Off, Boxxer, Fox 40, 888, junior T, 66

Bike Setup:   Big Hit wt fox 40

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:4
Submitted by e t a Weekend Warrior from orem ut usa

Date Reviewed: August 20, 2010

Strengths:    good long travel fork

Weaknesses:    seal

Bottom Line:   
I posted an earlier review and at that point i didn't have any problems. sence then i have blowen the seal albiet i've abused them. i found a simple upgrade from lowes that turn these forks from a rating of 3 to a rating of 4 1/2 or so. some fat orings from the hardware department coupled with retention clips fore and aff $2.00 and some elbow grease. i now run my air at 90 psi with no problems

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Favorite Trail:   great western

Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $75.00

Purchased At:   ebay

Bike Setup:   phantom comp quad-link

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by jazbon a Downhiller from Lincoln, England

Date Reviewed: July 10, 2009

Strengths:    plush and adjustable

Weaknesses:    loss of air in the air side and lack of damping in the oil side

Bottom Line:   
These forks lose air because the seal rolls over, gets trapped between the internal stantion tube and the metal thrust piston and then splits. The seal is effectively an 'O' ring with a square edge to stop it rolling around called 'Quad rings ' in the uk and 'x' rings in the usa. The inner diameter of the groove that the ring sits in is about 23mm. but you will need a ring more like 20 - 21mm ID for it to be tight. I think the one that I used was 20.22 mm or something. The reason why the seals pop and break is beacause the groove in which the ring sits is too big. In other words there is play in the up/down direction which gives room for the quad / x ring to roll over and do the same thing again and again when replaced. The way to overcome this is to effectively 'pack' the gap allowing no play in the groove. you can do this by super glueing a shim to the 'no air pressure' side of the groove. you may also be able to use an additional more narrow quad ring as a packer, but i have not tried this. The forks are actually quite easy to take apart so dont be afraid if you are fairly good with your hands. if you use a quad ring that is to big or has a too large cross section then you may find the forks sticking which will bring its own problems. I used the 3.5mm (ish) cross section. Since using the shim (which i got from a 24mm internal diam, 1mm thick raceface axle spacer which i then stuck down, filed down to fit and tapred in so that no plastic was exposed) I have only lost a few pounds of air per ride whilst doing reasonable downhill with 3 -4 ft shore drops to transisiton and some narly steep technical sections. Take a shock pump with you, but they shold not pop. I also used a small bath of oil for the seal to run in (not loads though). The other side of the fork is fairly crappy and does not do its job very well. if you want more damping then use some heavier oil. say 10 weight, that shouls slow them down. You dont want too much damping though, the rebound gives you lift for jumps and pops anyway. so you need it a bit. I will post a link for a 'how to' with pics soon.

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Favorite Trail:   Alpine freeride

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $150.00

Purchased At:   ebay

Similar Products Used:   888, drop off triple, 40rc

Bike Setup:   Orange Patriot 66 2006

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by phildamo a Downhiller from montreal

Date Reviewed: November 11, 2008

Strengths:    Smooth ass ride. Can't feel those bumps on trails.
ive had them for 3 years now and they haven't bent.


Weaknesses:    Not for extreme down hilling

Bottom Line:   
this is a great fork.
if anyone says its bad, its cause they were probably abusing it.It has 170mm of travel so its not meant for dropping off 8 story buildings! But great for soft downhill trails and even some dirt jumps.

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Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $700.00

Purchased At:   local bike shop


Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Jimothy121 a Weekend Warrior from Bellingham, WA, USA

Date Reviewed: August 4, 2008

Strengths:    20mm Axle, double Crown, inexpensive.

Weaknesses:    O-Ring on the air assist leg is the wrong size.

Bottom Line:   
A Diamond in the rough... Go to the hardware store and get an o-ring that is one size larger than the original in the air assist lower. This will solve all the problems related to blowing the seals.

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty and rebuilding the fork its a great product for the price.

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Favorite Trail:   Evolution

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $650.00

Purchased At:   Came With Bike

Bike Setup:   2005 Ironhorse Yakuza Kumicho, rebuilt Kingpin, otherwise factory.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Daniel Okuda a Downhiller from Peoria AZ USA

Date Reviewed: May 30, 2008

Strengths:    perfect for what i do iv dropped off 6ft dropps onto flat ground and i have never had a problem

Weaknesses:    adj rebound cant tell if it works stiction could be better

Bottom Line:   
for the price these forks rock perfect for any one that doesnt race.

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $95.00

Purchased At:   Ebay

Similar Products Used:   marzochi bomber 150mm

Bike Setup:   haro x7 rock shox air

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Daniel Okuda a Downhiller from Peoria AZ USA

Date Reviewed: May 30, 2008

Strengths:    perfect for what i do iv dropped off 6ft dropps onto flat ground and i have never had a problem

Weaknesses:    adj rebound cant tell if it works stiction could be better

Bottom Line:   
for the price these forks rock perfect for any one that doesnt race.

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $95.00

Purchased At:   Ebay

Similar Products Used:   marzochi bomber 150mm

Bike Setup:   haro x7 rock shox air

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Dustin Ponko a Downhiller from PG, CA USA

Date Reviewed: April 27, 2008

Strengths:    Its great! I love the plushness of the fork. It can handle a lot of stuff.

Weaknesses:    It makes a wierd noise that gets anoying and Sometimes it needs a some lube to make it more absorbent but its still great.

Bottom Line:   
Great fork for DH. Best Bang for you buck, and its just cool.

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Favorite Trail:   Tunnels

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $375.00

Purchased At:   manitou factory.....I know some people

Similar Products Used:   Marazochi Mz all mtn Comp

Bike Setup:   Iron Horse warrior frame (pretty much custom built)

Overall Rating:2
Value Rating:3
Submitted by celio silva a Weekend Warrior from portugal

Date Reviewed: April 25, 2008

Strengths:    very easy to "do your self" after reading the Manitou manual with VERY VERY attention, simple mecanism inside, good looking fork, very cheap, not to much weight.

Weaknesses:    internal not to strong. need all time maintenance, because the seals arent to much effective, the oil and grease goes away quickly. the ajustments really dont make much difference in performance. dont give much confidence, and the spring is to soft (im 90 kg). the rebound doenst seems to work. and bob even with the SPV+ (unless you put a good load of air pressure),...

Bottom Line:   
i bye this forks used. The first thing i notice, is the manitou dont have a dedicated service manual, so wasnt simple to learn all about it. The Air leaking was a problem right from the day 1. i been solving this with 2 steeps. first, i put some layers of teflon in the internal rod, where the air seal is, so the segment of the rod become more large. this way, the air seal gives more pressure to inner legs. second, You cant expected the air remain in the fork, if you DONT have OIL in it. you have to put a good quantity of oil (like motor 15w40 oil) into to the left fork, so the air can keep inside, whem you feel the air is starting to go way... or like me, put some in advance for 3 or 4 rides. This way i been able to keep the air pressure inside the fork, and be able to used in light freeride.
The internal and external ajustments, doenst do much difference at all. maybe with heavier oil.
The air, its all what really make some difference. Without a good load of pressure air... this forks just dont work for me.

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Duration Product Used:   6 months

Price Paid:    $200.00

Purchased At:   ebay

Similar Products Used:   this is my first triple crown

Bike Setup:   ramleigh xt 2500 with manitou 4way swinger (rear 7" travel)

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by errold tuley a Weekend Warrior from slc ut usa

Date Reviewed: October 13, 2007

Strengths:    170mm travel, 20mm axil, air assist

Weaknesses:    ?

Bottom Line:   
I bought these 05 forks just because there 170mm. THEY ROCK (mine has a stick that says upgrade installed)I put extra firm spings in right off the bat as I weigh 210# I have not had a single problem and I've dropped numerous 4 to 5 (one 4 footer in a nose dive) foot drops as most of my riding is urban assault. The tpc+ is great because you can sit a petal without any bob. I have not blowen any seals no leaks no stiction I run 30# air. Turning radious is a little less than others but for 99% of the riding I do it has not matered

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $75.00

Purchased At:   ebay

Bike Setup:   motobecane phantom comp, manitou swinger coil over

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by Alex Candage a Downhiller from Meredith, NH

Date Reviewed: July 31, 2007

Strengths:    None what so ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weaknesses:    The fork broke on my second ride! And it wasnt even a difficult trail with large hits!

Bottom Line:   
Worst fork on earth! Go with one of the newer Manitou forks or a Marzzochi 888 or a Rock Shox Boxxer!

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Favorite Trail:   Highland Bike Park

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $500.00

Purchased At:   www.rscycle.com

Similar Products Used:   None really.


Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by nathan hill a Downhiller from australia

Date Reviewed: April 29, 2007

Strengths:    extreme

Weaknesses:    sezed up twice

Bottom Line:   
its ok

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Favorite Trail:   ridgie didge

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Price Paid:    $500.00

Purchased At:   bike shop

Similar Products Used:   rock shox

Bike Setup:   downhill

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Dennis from Perth, WA, Australia

Date Reviewed: April 25, 2007

Strengths:    Have only bottomed them out 1 time and they look good and perform good and are spring not air powered!

Hucked a 3m with a landing 6 m away drop on it and its a hard tail and over cleared it and never had problems!


Weaknesses:    umm None that i can think of.

Bottom Line:   
good havent had problems yet and prolly never will!!!

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Favorite Trail:   Goatfarm

Duration Product Used:   6 months

Price Paid:    $500.00

Purchased At:   Guildford cycles

Similar Products Used:   Rst gilla T6
Marzocchi dj 2s n 3s


Bike Setup:   Gt Chucker 2.0 Sram gear

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by Adam a Downhiller from The Oklahoma Hills

Date Reviewed: February 3, 2007

Strengths:    I didnt find any.

Weaknesses:    Fork felt like wet noodle unless you put a lot of air in it, which leaks out in a few minutes. The axle bolt broke off inside the axle. Breakable plastic internals. Trashed in less than 5 rides.

Bottom Line:   
Absolute crap. I rode on a Manitou for several years on my XC bike and loved it, zero maintenence, plush and light, even hucked it a little. But this fork has forever tuned me against Manitou. It came stock on my BigHit. Against my better judgement I left it on the bike. I did a couple downhill runs on it and felt like my life was in jeopardy. It felt decent on 10+ feet to transition, but through little stuff, I felt like it would rebound me right off the bike. Wouldnt hold air and the internals broke off inside after 2 weeks leaving a completely locked out 7" fork that had a horrible metal on metal clash when attempted to compress. Manitou was quick to send me a new one, an 06 model. I didnt even let it grace the front of my Specialized, and sold it immediately. Dont buy it unless you plan on leaving your wheels on the ground and just want to look cool on your dual crown fork. I would give it negative chilis if I could.

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Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Purchased At:   LBS (came on bike)

Similar Products Used:   Judy XL(dc), Manitou SX-R, DJIII, Boxxer, Jr. T, Shiver DC

Bike Setup:   05 BigHit FSR, 66rc (now), Howitzer BB/Hussefelt

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by bart a Weekend Warrior from uk, scotland

Date Reviewed: January 21, 2007

Strengths:    170 of travel, dual crown, air assist,

Weaknesses:    bit sticky, factory spring to hard when riden with more than 40psi, black paint comes off from f. legs

Bottom Line:   
!!!!!!!!NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This fork needs an upgrade straight out of the box. I redesigned air chamber, and added one extra self tightening washer and 20cl of oil to air assistleg. Changed factory oil to 0.25(?). After that it works like charm. I paid only 99$ for that fork and and i treated as a bearbone-fork. My design worked out and now it can hold 90psi easy. Didn,t lost a pound of air for the last 6 mnths. I can't say much about drop offs as the bigest i make are 4-5 foot. But never bottomed it with 72kg of waight and around 40psi.
AND HEY!!! SEALS ARE OK, it's just lack of extra washer in a.assist leg makes this fork junk. 30min of work and you gonna praise it. dont bother to send it back to manitou DIY. If u need a pic+guide how to fix it: fucpl(at)wp.pl

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Favorite Trail:   inverlithen

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Price Paid:    $99.00

Purchased At:   jensen usa

Similar Products Used:   N/A

Bike Setup:   4-way swinger, KingPin, and other s?"@t...

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