Weaknesses: Nothing noticeable - the travel is less than stated. They're also very expensive in New Zealand, which is why I bought mailorder on special.
One of the earlier reviewers is right; they spelt thirtysix as "thirtsix"! That's pretty funny. So far this fork has been fantastic to use, compared to the thin sticks of the Psylos I was using. You definately can NOT get 150mm of travel - the stanchions fully extended are only 135mm, but frankly they all lie about how big they are. My 125mm Psylos struggle to get 90mm! The travel adjuster actually does work, though you have to push down hard on the fork to set them to the lower travel. I was concerned a fork this solid was going to be heavy but the weight isn't that noticeable - and they weren't made for XC anyway. The big payoff is how incredibly solid and stiff they feel. You think less about nursing the bike over big hits... thru axles are the way to go. As for the colour, sure, dark brown isn't the prettiest, but I've got a black bike so the brown blends in with it. Anyone who whinges about the colour or the stickers not staying on forever needs to get a reality check... buy something else, or donate some money to the starving children!
Similar Products Used: Rock Shox Psylo XC, Manitou triple crown thing, that sucked and leaked and came apart and were sold on to my brother-in-law (who loves them)
Bike Setup: Heckler, Fox DHX Air, SRAM, other stuff, whatever
a Weekend Warrior
from Moab UT
Date Reviewed: May 9, 2006
Weaknesses: Not a six inch fork as advertised. Blows through the travel too easily. Can't stand up to reasonable use.
This is an update of a previous review. Last week I snapped the rod on the compression damper. The Fox price for the part is $206. I am over 50, 140 lbs and I don't go big. What a piece of overpriced crap. If I could give this product zero chilies I would.
Strengths: unbelievbly stiff torsionaly, did every thing i wanted it to, perfect for street at 4 peferct for hucking at 6 and perfect for trails and jumps, BEEEEEEEEFFFFF!!!. will never bend a steer tube on this fork EVER its taper to liek half inch at bottem of steer
best fork you will ever buy unless you dont ahve the money i woodnt have bought it for 1229 cdn but i work at a shop so i got it for 738 WORTH EVER PennY fox warrenty is right on can use this fork for anything you can think of
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2005
Strengths: very plush.no flex.take big hits well
Weaknesses: colour,but not a biggy
very good fork on enduro.wicked bike all round.also have a kona stinky delux 04 refitted with sherman slider plus tripple clamp forks.the fox fork steers better and downhills better than the slider,much smoother also.selling stinky now cause the enduro does every thing better.
Similar Products Used: manitou sherman flick,sherman sliders
Bike Setup: came on 06 specialised enduro expert
a Weekend Warrior
from Manchester, UK
Date Reviewed: August 25, 2005
Strengths: Stiff, durable looking and smooth (when worked)
Weaknesses: gradually got worse and worse- rebound damping then talas has started to refuse to return unless pulled.
I'm not a fast or good rider by anyones imagination however how can such a 'core product' fail after less than 2months use? I had a similar problem with the talas system on another pair of XC forks where to return to full travel I had to manually 'pull' the lowers back out but now this? rebound blown?
When they work again- post visit to the dealers I hope they work/as plush as they did for the first few weeks...
Value? 4 chillis as I paid £500 for them- if I paid fullprice I woudl have posted 3/4 chillis
Bike Setup: Heckler, Chris King and the usual suspects.
a Cross Country Rider
from wales (u.k.)
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2005
Strengths: very very stiff fork under trail punishment and braking no movement at all and i weigh 220lbs very plush fork can take big hits no sweat at all excellent inurshur valve you can set to various levels that allow the travel to activate so so bobbing when riding flat and only come in on the bummps
Weaknesses: they are very expensive but i had mine on a 2005 enduro expert so cool
these forks are the dogs the best i have ever used they are light for quite a thick fork and extremely responsive abd stiff and put on a new 2005 specialized enduro they are amazing the whole bike is amazing i garentee you will not be dissappointed with these forks if you can get a pair you can use them for almost anything but the most extreme downhill courses any all mountain trail they will absolutely destroy
a Weekend Warrior
from Moab UT
Date Reviewed: June 21, 2005
Strengths: Very stiff.
Weaknesses: Compression damping. Price.
Way over priced and the quality just is not there. This is not a six inch fork. The measurment from the scraper seal to the top of the crown on mine is five and three-quarters inches. The fork had to go back to the factory the first week because it was only a five inch fork and the Talas system did not work. At lower air pressures the fork blows through its travel way too easily. At higher air pressure you are bounced all over rocky trails. Evidently, one has to have the cartridge revalved to correct this. When a fork costs this much, the default damping should be good. I guess I should have spent even more money to get the RC model. These are major isssues. A couple of minor ones. On the Fox Poster and the Santa Cruz website the fork appears black. I thought black would look good with my sliver anno Heckler. The fork is in fact chocolate brown and does not look good on most bikes. You get really cheesy looking stickers on the fork that peel off. To top it off, the stickers misspell thirtysix. Wonder how that got past Fox's vaunted quality control? Bottom line: Buy a Sherman.
Similar Products Used: Manitou Sherman. Rock Shocks Psylo
Bike Setup: Heckler with Avid Juicys, Crossmax and DHX5.
Date Reviewed: June 13, 2005
Strengths: -Smooth and well controlled and a very good damping performance in all situations, it eats almost every bumb or obstacle on the trails, roots and rocks etc for breakfast. Also fork is progressive enough to prevent bottoming. -Very stiff, I can't notice flex under heavy braking or while cornering, although I weight about 220lbs and have 8" rotor on the front. -Talas is useful when climbing(I use it seldom) -Hoseguide on the lower leg.
Weaknesses: -Brown color. Well, that isn't big issue for me... -Price!! Mine came with the bike so the price doesn't bother me. -A bit heavy, but the weight is very reasonable when it comes to stiffnes(36mm construction), 150mm travel and performance. -Only a rebound adjuster. -Talas, it's a bit useless-->I run it at the 150mm mode almost all the time. -It's not fully user serviceable??? I prefer to maintain my forks by myself.
The best fork I have ever owned, period. Suspension performance is very good in every segment, it's stiff like a double crown and the weight is reasonable for such a burly fork. But the price is way too high on the aftermarket sale. RC2 would be nicer, because I like to play with the extra adjusters, but I can adjust the fork for my taste. But so far I'm very, very pleased to my 36R. If you got the money and have a long travel trail bike like the new Specialized enduro, buy the 36! Trailriding have never been so fun!
Similar Products Used: Manitou Minute 3/Black Elite, Rock Shox Psylo SL/SID Race/Judy SL, Marzocchi Z.1 drop-off/MRX coil, and demoed lot of other forks...
Bike Setup: Specialized Enduro Expert 2005, all stock except pedals.
from Tucson, AZ
Date Reviewed: June 3, 2005
Strengths: Way stiffer than any other single crown fork ever ridden. Super smoth action.
Weaknesses: Price. Weighs a pound more thatn claimed. ONLY 135MM TRAVEL.
The fork is by far stiffer than the other forks in its catorgory and super smooth from the box. The reason for the one chili is the fact that it cost twice as much as the pike and offers less travel not to mention that it weighs almost a pound more than claimed, close to 6 lbs. On a plus side is its stiffness and smooth action which the Nixxon and Pike can't match but it is not worth twice the money. The only other benifit i saw in the 36 over the others was the increase in travel, 150mm claimed. I was way disapointed when i measured how much travel i was getting and it read 130 i tried every thing from lowering the pressure to going nose first of 5 foot drops onto cement and the most i can squeeze out of it is 135mm. If you measure from the top of the fork seal to the bottom of the crown and it measures 145MM, making it impossible to get the calimed 150MM travel that you think you are spending $850.00 for. My advice is to save yourself $400.00 and get a pike or wait until 2006 when Fox is going to introduce the 36 Vanilla with claimed travel of 160 so mabey it will really have around 145.
a Weekend Warrior
from Gilbert, AZ
Date Reviewed: May 5, 2005
Strengths: Stiffness -- tracks thru anything, hose guide (so much cleaner than zip ties), TALAS feature, very smooth (this was a surprise - air forks I'd used in the past were not nearly as smooth as coil -- this fork is easily as smooth as any coil)
The fork is amazing. It gives you confidence to pick bolder lines and try things that you would have walked down on with your old fork. The fork has bailed me out of several places where I would have had a painful OTB experience if I'd been on my old setup. Rock gardens are a blast -- just point and shoot. And the TALAS feature is really nice -- dial down the travel for long climbs and the geometry of the bike is changed for climbing. Even in the shorter travel mode the fork performs nicely; I would have expected a harsh, unforgiving ride at the short travel setting -- not the case. Excellent product -- exceeds my already high expectations.
Similar Products Used: Fox Vanilla (if you would say it is a similar product)
Bike Setup: Fork came OEM on my '05 Enduro Expert -- stock everything (for now) except for stem and ODI lock on grips.
from Suwanee, GA, USA
Date Reviewed: April 12, 2005
Strengths: Design, Stiffness, Axle inserts, Thickness of steerer tube at Headtube connection.
Weaknesses: Color, Lowers scuff a little to easily. Nothing performance related in the least.
PERFORMANCE: This fork is unbeleivable. I have been riding a 888R with the works package on my DH rig, and put this fork on my new Enduro rig and it seems to track as well as my 888R. It feels great, stiff as anything I've ever ridden. I am a 185lb rider and this thing feels great. the lower section of the steerer tube is about a 1/4 thick all around and then tapers as the tube goes up. this must contribute to the stiffness. the TALAS system has worked fine even while riding. Once cycled through the travel a couple of times it sits in whatever position you adjust it to. The rebound has a great amount of adjustment range from full in to full out. Fox must have spent so much time & money working on the performance of this fork that when it came time for color picking they didn't have enough $$$ for the power bill and chose the color in the dark. Like I said up top. You begin to not care about that color as soon as you take it down a rocky trail and it gets a little dirty. It must be like an women witha not so pretty face that cooks great food and gives you some anytime you want it, it starts not to matter so much if here face is as pretty.
COSMETIC: The color is a little weird, but since it performs so good you start to not care. Also, the lowers seem to scuff a little easier than I had expected. 2 rides and the brake cable have made their marks. I'll add some clear adhesive number plate backing to the fork legs in the area the brake line touches to remedy this.
Again, this thing is really blowing my mind for a single crown fork. I need more time on the fork to give it true kudo's, but as for now this thing is unbeleivable.