Kona Dawg Primo 2003 Full Suspension

4.92/5 (13 Reviews)
MSRP : $3499.00


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Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
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Date Reviewed: September 29, 2008

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Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month



Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by HMB a Weekend Warrior from Boston, MA

Date Reviewed: July 28, 2008

Strengths:    Frame, build kit.

Weaknesses:    Stock tires.

Bottom Line:   
Completely under rated bike. Incredible balance. Weight is fine all day through anything at it riding (approx 30lbs).
Price is great for build. I'm very happy and will be for some time.

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Favorite Trail:   HP, Exeter, Lynn Woods, etc...

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $1700.00

Purchased At:   JRA Cycles, Medford,

Similar Products Used:   Kona Stinky, GF Cake

Bike Setup:   Fox, LX/XT combo, SOS rims, Race Face, Maxxis DH


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Dbohnsai a Downhiller from Chilli, Oh

Date Reviewed: August 28, 2005

Strengths:    totally sweet bike!

Weaknesses:    wish I had the 05 model with more travel, oh well

Bottom Line:   
This is probably the best bike you can get for what is meant to be thrown at it. Strong yet not too heavy frame. Plenty of travel for all mountain type stuff. very efficient suspension design.

I got this frame to build up a bike so I wouldn't have to ride my beast Stinky Primo all the time.

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Favorite Trail:   Great Seal State Park

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Similar Products Used:   konas, gts, haros

Bike Setup:   05 'zocchi marathon xc set to 4.5", thompson seat post and 50mm stem, hayes hfx 9 brakes, sram rocket triggers, XT derailleurs, race face evolve xc crankset, easton bars, fsa xc-300 wheels.


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by erik a Cross Country Rider from NJ

Date Reviewed: January 4, 2005

Strengths:    - Anything form konda is top of the line, and this is no exception. Every weld and pivot is perfect.
- Float RL shock, when tuned is awsome, especially w/ lockout


Weaknesses:    - Paint under cables on top tube rubs off kind of easily, and mine came with a bent rear derailleur hanger.

Bottom Line:   
This frame is a great bang for your bike. Its sturdy, well built, and fun as hell in the woods. Point and shoot, it eats up everything.. It flows down the trail, "like a super-natural squirrel." Also take any up hill, switch on lockout, and up you go, it rode uphill better that my old hardtail. Has a high bottom bracket too so you can clear most anything. Best investment ive ever made. If this frame ever broke I wouldnt hesitate to buy another kona. People also say its a great 4x bike, ive yet to try that. I highly recommend this frame. 5 flamin chillis all around.

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Favorite Trail:   Anywhere Im on a bike

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $550.00

Purchased At:   Wheelworld.com

Similar Products Used:   Jamis Dakar, giant hardtail

Bike Setup:   03' dawg primo, fox 125RL fork, everything 2004 XT, hollowtech cranks, 185mm Avid Mechs, MAvic 717's, thomson post, salsa skewers, etc..


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Kirk a Weekend Warrior from San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA

Date Reviewed: April 23, 2004

Strengths:    Kona blended the best of a Stinky with the best of a King Kikapu and in my opinion turned out the best XC/Freeride bike around. Very strong and light! Everything just works very well! A+++ Kona for offering a wonderful riding bike.

Weaknesses:    Absolutely NONE!!!!! Highly RECOMMENDED XC/Freeride bike!!!!

Bottom Line:   
Kona blended the best of a Stinky with the best of a King Kikapu and in my opinion turned out the best XC/Freeride bike around. Very strong and light! Everything just works very well! A+++ Kona for offering a wonderful riding machine!!!!

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Favorite Trail:   San Juan Trail

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Similar Products Used:   Other Kona bikes.

Bike Setup:   2003 Kona Dawg Primo, Marzzochi MX Comp 120 ETA, Raceface Next crankset and Next carbon riser bar, Avid disc, Sun Rhino Lite rims with XT components.


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Gragra a Weekend Warrior from Australia

Date Reviewed: November 4, 2003

Strengths:    First of all, thanks to Charlie at Vision. This version as not available in Oz, but my sister was going to the US. So I called Chuck, he helped me out, ordered the bike, sitched out the stem and bars and now I have a lovely machine.

It's a total package - not much you'd want to change - except maybe stem, bars, post, grips. A high end pimp machine that does it all really.


Weaknesses:    Bit heavy in the arse-end, a bit of chain suck when dropping into granny - also happens sometimes when changing up rings. The rear derailleur will hit the chain stay when in smallest 2 cogs even with B tension wound right in. Fix it with a bit of old inner tube and zip tie.

Bottom Line:   
I loved the Tracer's performance, but it just wasn;t versatile enough. Don't get me wrong, the Tracer is great if you have the cash to set it up as she deserves and ride primarily XC or trails and like a fixed seat height (with only about 2 inches of real up/down adjustment).

But, I like to have the seat high when going to trailhead, drop it low for tech, long DH runs etc, and even though the Tracer is very well built (and at the time I bought it was THE ONLY machine to have) but is just not as burly or thrashable as the Dawg. That's OK though, cause it's a slightly different category. Fine if you are mostly an XC guy with minimal set-up variations.

Additionally, the Dawg Primo was just so well spec'd. The best xc disc setup, fantastic forx and shox, decent wheelset, great drivetrain etc.

And just super versatile. Jack up the seat height and lockit out for the road or long uphills.
Release the lockout and drop the seat - then let it run DH superfast and super plush - and pull her up quick and safe with the hayes stoppers.

Super easy to throw around and very agile handling - not skittish, but seems sharper than the Tracer. Easy to bunny hop, feels stable in the air.
I think the Tracer actually had slightly better performing rear, but this is super good and I never feel like I'm bottoming it out. Front ot rear.

Which leads me to the suspension. Red hot. Fox Forx are sooo smooth, as is the rear end - and ultra adjustable.

I have the rear set on the back mounting hole (more progressive) and the AVA at half. Stock is front hole and max AVA volume. I feel this strikes a good balance with the progressive forx.

This is an ideal do-it-all bike, and for me it represented an excellent opportunity to upgrade to discs, splined etc while getting a more versatile overall package.
A great machine if you can only have one, or if you want to simplify your stable and enjoy rising a real mix of terrain - without whingeing that your bike's not light enough. Mine weights about 27 and a quarter pounds. All my BMX buddies marvel at how light it is...and I have no trouble climbing with it.

I love it. It's a keeper... at least for a few years...

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $3500.00

Purchased At:   Vision Cyclery, SF

Similar Products Used:   Intense Tracer as previous ride.

Bike Setup:   Stock except for bars (EA70 risers), Stem (Thomson), Headset (King), Pedals (545).


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by don kilby a Weekend Warrior from elora, ontario, canada

Date Reviewed: August 18, 2003

Strengths:    solid, well built feeling, not too heavy, great trail bike!

Weaknesses:    bit of chain suck at times, occasional 'ghost' shifting form rear d., noisy creaking form headset area, rear d. bangs off chain stay

Bottom Line:   
this bike came to me no cost as a frame replacement for the stinky which cracked at the rear sus. pivot. (thanks kona!!)
I was very happy with the stinky but had lightened it as much as I could and still it was killing me to keep up with lighter bikes on the uphills.
I favour riding very technical challenging trails, both slow and fast and the Dawg is really working out well. It is everything I wished the stinky could be. I miss the extra travel a bit at times but the suspension I'm runnning is really doing its job for me. I had become concerned that the direction most bikes in this style were going was with more travel (my buddies ride long travel titus switchblade, elsworth id) but not a problem so far. I am not doing serious drops so I have the sus. set up plush and 100mm of good travel really gets the job done.
the straight post (previous a raceface layback which didn't fit and was slightly bending) plus more upright seat angle compared to stinky has made a noticable change in riding position. You have to remember to get way back off the seat at times or you're going over the front.
I have always loved the way my previous konas handled, and this one is the best yet, haven't got to ride the competion but this bike is making me smile! the bike loves when I start to really get aggresive with it and motor!!

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Favorite Trail:   3 stages

Duration Product Used:   6 months

Purchased At:   speed river cycles

Similar Products Used:   1999 1/2 stinky, explosive, kula

Bike Setup:   marz. z-1 1oom 20 mm axle, cane creak cloud nine, tompson stem & post, monkey lite bar, race face thermo sl, wtb lazer v and stealth pedals, chris king rear wheel, lx shifters, xt derailurs, hayes, conti vert. pro 2.3 ft, tioga dh 2.1 rear, stans no tubes


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Joni McGlade a Cross Country Rider from Northern Ireland

Date Reviewed: June 29, 2003

Strengths:    Overall package, brakes, shocks, tires, gears, everything just 'works'

Weaknesses:    My skills =]

Bottom Line:   
This is worth every penny. I was a bit apprehensive about full sus bikes, this has totally changed my mind. You don't have to pick a line, just point and shoot. Yet, lock it out, and it'll climb anything! A real credit to Kona and their design. And the brakes r awsome, it's kinda wet here and they stay consistent, frightfully sharp!

The suspension is just soooo plush, but can take big hits in it's stride. It took a while to get the shocks 'dialled in', but once that's done, it just feels so right.

It maybe dear, but u get what you pay for, and in this case a top class mtb, that can decend and climb!! I'm not the best techinally, yet it just makes you feel you could do anything!! Now, where's that steve peat...

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Favorite Trail:   fast and flowing...

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Purchased At:   Plush

Bike Setup:   Stock


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by codewolf a Weekend Warrior from Bloomfield, CT

Date Reviewed: June 26, 2003

Strengths:    Read my review after a few months....

Weaknesses:    Read my review after a few months....

Bottom Line:   
I've ridden the bike (Kona Dawg Primo) about 2-3 times a week since I wrote
that. I weigh about 185, so you have a few pounds on me, but if you get the
Primo, the better shocks will help a lot if you plan on dropping some medium
sized drops (3-6 feet). Here's what I've found since then:

- The front Fox fork holds up well, I have bottomed it out on the sloppiest
setting a bunch of times going over 3-5 foot drops, but it holds up well,
nothing busted. The rear Fox shock, the same, it's been bottomed out a few
times, but no damage at all.

- The Hayes bling-bling carbon fibre brakes are nice, but, need to be cared for.
The design of the line into the hydraulic line from the grip is poor. With one
bad fall, you'll break the pin that goes into the hydraulic line easily. I have
constantly needed to adjust the play on the brake levers (almost every time
before a ride) it seems that the lever pin backs out. Maybe I have a lemon brake
set. Other than the constant maintenance on the lever play, the brakes work
great. I'm not sure if the lower level Dawgs come with this brake set.

- The chain is light but weak, I broke it after about 10 rides. I'll be
replacing it with a SRAM chainset, I'll sacrifice the weight for the durability.
From what I hear from my friends, the SRAM chain is about the best you can get,
never breaks.

- I replaced the outside gear with a BlackSpire Ring God to help with getting
over log piles since I hardly ever used the outside gear. If you want some bite,
but want the same, buy something other than the ringgod to replace that gear. I
like it with no bite though, it helps me "roll" over logs at times.

- As far as your statement "I don't plan to huck it" well.... I would if I were
you, the frame is very strong, and can take the beating and beg for more. I have
watched (better riders than I) huck about 6 foot drops onto flat with no problem
with the mid-line Dawg, it'll do that all day long. Although your added weight
may reduce the hucking all day figure down a foot. I huck this bike over 3-4
foot drops all day long, roll over big rocky drops no problem, it wants to do
it!

- How does it climb? - The weight to pull up the hill is very good, light. The
derailer when forcing a gear switch on a hill will skip if you don't keep it
tuned up, but otherwise fine. The chain - read my previous comment. It's light
in the front so unless you quickly get used to it, you'll be pulling wheelies on
a hard hill and have trouble. It just took me a few rides to get used to where
to shift my weight to keep the bike on the ground and digging in. Which brings
us to ....

- The tires - The stock tires - Tioga Extreme XC are "OK". They do very well on
dry dirt, 1-2" mud. On any big mud they bog down a bit. On sand they don't have
much hold, I've wiped out many times around a hard sand turn with these tires.
On wet rock or mossy roots, they slide a lot, but what tires don't. It's hard
for me to differentiate between my lack of riding skill or the equipment's
performance sometimes. I will be replacing the tires with something a bit wider,
with a bit more grip (probably 1.5" raptors). That should give me a bit more
landing space for hucking and a bit more grip.

- Other things - The grips have been torn apart by my constant crashes onto
rocky surfaces, I'll have to replace those soon. The seat is comfy, like a
couch, and holds up well. I will be replacing the handle bar with an Easton
Monkey Lite in a few days, just for the weight, looks, and may get one with a
bit more rise to pull the bike closer. If you ever have the chance to talk to
the guys at Hayes about the brakes, they are very cool people, know their stuff
and ride too! I don't think I'd change too much else about this bike other than
I mentioned, it's pretty good as it comes. I'm starting to do a lot of bigger
drops and really abusing the bike (a lot of downhill runs over big stuff), so I
may pick up a DH bike just for that, but this bike is just perfect for the rides
I usually do (technical & fast). I really love this bike, honestly, it's a great
bike. The Dawg Primo was worth the extra cash since it's such a joy to ride. If
you can still get one (it may be hard) I would definitely recommend it.

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Favorite Trail:   Pennwood

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Purchased At:   http://www.gravitywarehouse.com

Similar Products Used:   1999 Ford Cobra SVT

Bike Setup:   Stock, except for the ring guard, replaced parts


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Les a Cross Country Rider from Valemount

Date Reviewed: May 13, 2003

Strengths:    Awsome Brakes, Stable at high speeds and Climbs like a goat!The bike handles big hits well and begs to be ridden off of every ledge or rock or root available - part bird. The lockout is a definite must for long climbs and I lock out on the tough techical steep ones as well.

Weaknesses:    The tires are squirly and I am slappig my pedals on rocks and such an awful lot. It also seems that chain suck is endemic with Konas. If the going gets muddy the chain has to stay on the middle ring

Bottom Line:   
I have ridden the bike lots for three months, Vancouver north shore, Kamloops fast and twitchy, Jasper fun and fast. The bike shines the most when the trails are the gnarliest. The slippier steeper and sicker the trail the better the suspension works. I had trouble with a sticky brake lever - front and the bottom bracket squeaked like a stuck pig but the LBS has been great and the bike is the best and most fun I have ever ridden! I am glad that I popped for the more expensive model because of the better brakes and the fork/shock combo.

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Favorite Trail:   Jewel Pass - Canmore

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $2000.00

Purchased At:   Freewheel Cycles Jasper

Similar Products Used:   Kona Hahana, explosif, Rock mountian Equipe, Rocky mountain Spice, Santa Cruz ? and a Trek 8500LT

Bike Setup:   Stock except bar ends (I know, I'm a geek)


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by codewolf a Weekend Warrior from Bloomfield, CT

Date Reviewed: April 21, 2003

Strengths:    Great components overall, light, takes quite a beating.

Weaknesses:    Front brake (Hayes HFX-Mag Plus) has a poor design on the master cylander, the small tube going into the hydraulic line breaks easily. Stock Tires are just OK.

Bottom Line:   
This bike is fantastic. It takes everything easily. The geometry and streangth of the bike make up for my crappy abilities. This was the first mountain bike I've owned and having such a great bike made all the difference to me. The extra money for the primo may seem a bit steep but I wouldn't have settled for anything but the best, and this bike is it! If you are in the area, make sure to stop by Gravity Warehouse Bike & Board in Southwick, MA and talk to Seth.

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Favorite Trail:   Penwood

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Purchased At:   www.gravitywarehouse.com

Similar Products Used:   1999 SVT Mustang Cobra

Bike Setup:   Stock


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Niblet a Cross Country Rider from Nottingham, Notts, UK

Date Reviewed: February 20, 2003

Strengths:    It's light and strong! it burns up hills like you're on a scooter! Takes the drops nicely (has carbon fibre brake levers!)

Weaknesses:    The Rider!!!!!

Bottom Line:   
I can't wait to get home from work and tear up the peak district on this mother lover of a bike!!! I can throw it around like a BMX and it eats the bumps and comes back for more! bring it on!!!!!

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Favorite Trail:   Back of Skidaw - Lake District

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $3750.00

Purchased At:   www.wheelbase.co.uk

Similar Products Used:   Stinky 2000 Edition

Bike Setup:   Stock (except for some fluffy dice!)


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Rob a Weekend Warrior from Victoria

Date Reviewed: November 19, 2002

Strengths:    great front and rear suspension, good handling - climbing or descending

Weaknesses:    tires

Bottom Line:   
I love this bike. It's my 1st full susp. and I was worried about climbing, but after my first ride I couldn't believe how well it handled the hills. Oh yeah - descents are way more fun and fast, too. The rear suspension can be adjusted in 3 ways - (1) lockout (2) rebound rate and (3) air volume - I'm still playing with it to find the optimum level, but so far so good. Steering is nimble, but it feels beefy enough to handle the bigger bumps. Can't say enough good things about it.

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Favorite Trail:   the dump

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Purchased At:   Russ Hay's

Similar Products Used:   Trek 8500LT

Bike Setup:   stock - Fox shox front and back, hayes disc brakes w/ carbon fibre levers



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