Submitted by
m bn
a Downhiller
from hjh Date Reviewed: October 21, 2006
Favorite Trail:
promenade (any)
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Strengths:
I like the writing on it. Can take 12" drops to flat. my bottom ain't numb.
Weaknesses:
Can't fit my basket on the front, my dog cannot catch up. Doesn't have a stand. Got stopped by police, no bell. Tony should address these points.
Similar Products Used:
Real Cafe, a real good all rounder, can do jumps down my door steps.
Bike Setup:
2 wheels, seat, handlebars, pedals, no bell
Bottom Line:
For the money I was expecting more userfriendly everyday items on the bike. cool, if you're over 45!!!
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Submitted by
Phil
a Cross Country Rider
from Chichester Date Reviewed: July 11, 2005
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Great build quality, efficient suspension & sure footed handling.
Weaknesses:
Rear mud clearance, no hose guides
Similar Products Used:
First full susser, tested an Epic and Turner
Bike Setup:
Pace, Hope, Mavic etc.
Bottom Line:
Having wanted a Truth since I first saw one, my chance came in February when a Peugeout wrote my Airborne (and nearly me) off. The bike rides beautifully, although I think my RC40's might be a little too long for the frame, even with the travel wound right down. A shorter fork would sharpen the steering a bit. Having said this, I'm not an XC racer. This bike is fantastic for just getting out and riding and having fun on. I can certainly ride further on this than my hardtail - just because it's more comfortable. I think it climbs technical terrain better than a hardtail, simply because the rear tyre stays planted better. The bike does have a tendancy to lift the front wheel when climbing steep stuff. This is probably down to a combination of setup and my having had a relatively long frame (Airborne) prior to the Truth. In all, I intend to keep this bike for a long time and am very pleased with it's performance, possibly not the best value for money, but I don't begrudge it and you really do get what you pay for.
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Submitted by
gerry finnegan
a
from brookline, ma Date Reviewed: August 9, 2004
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$4800.00
Purchased At:
Beyond bikes
Strengths:
fast, light xc racing bike
Similar Products Used:
blur
Bike Setup:
xtr, hope minis, crossmax wheels, fox 125 talas
Bottom Line:
Broke the frame on this bike during a quick descent. My local bike shop sent back the rear triangle to Ellsworth, within a week they had shipped a new one, but with extra welding on the stay that snapped. These guys are thinking! Great bike, great customer service. In all the best money you can spend on a full suspension xc rig.
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Submitted by
joe therider
a Cross Country Rider
from usa Date Reviewed: May 27, 2004
Favorite Trail:
yes
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
Actionwheels
Strengths:
fast performer,lite, good geometry
Weaknesses:
I have had quality issues with bearings twice(the ones closest to the rear axel, I have also broken a frame,Mine was origanally a 2000 but the front triangle is an 03, they also dent really easy, finish rubs off easily, and headbadges are stickers that alwayse seem to be placed on crooked and then they fall off
Similar Products Used:
lots of bikes, hardtail and full susp.
Bike Setup:
its set up to ride
Bottom Line:
I do many miles, in season 50 to 80 mi a week sometimes more i ride on rough trails and year round, rocks roots , u get the picture, eastcoast stuff.The performance of the bike has been excellent, no complaints about handling, geometry, or weight. I do have a problem with the longevety of some design factors with this frame, Ellsworth cant seem to give me a reason why the bearings crapped out,twice, and i know alot of people who have broken these frames on the seat tube right upbove the front der. I have had no issues with the 03 front triangle, yet, but im alwayse checking and rechecking the rear triangle, this lack of trust sucks, especially considering what i payed for the supposed "ultimate in mtbike performance", Well, i guess i finished my rant, By the way I weigh 170, and am not a freerider, i ride xc and like to climb.
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Submitted by
john
a
from LA CA USA Date Reviewed: April 19, 2004
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
123bikes
Strengths:
Looks, climbes well, no bobing, just a great bike all around. Great customer service.
Weaknesses:
No hydralic cable guides.
Similar Products Used:
Heckler, Bianchi Tycoon
Bike Setup:
04 Truth Full XTR
Bottom Line:
I'm the same guy who gave one chilies right below this review. I called Ellsworth bike to ask some questions on the bike. I happen to talk to Tony Ellsworth and he was curtious and very friendly. We talked about the cable guide issue and he told me their working on it. He also advised on how to make it cable work. After talking with Tony, I realize I used the wrong tools to make the cable guides work. I could've fixed the problem in 15 minutes, but because the wrong tool it took 2-3 hours. That's the reason why gave one chilies. I wish I can take the review back. I didn't do the company justice. Well as far as the bike, I'm very pleased. Rides very smooth with no bobing. This bike also cimbes very well. Overall I'm glad I chose Truth over Blur. I just wish I didn't write this review out of frustration. This bike gets Five chilies Customer Service and Five Chilies for Tony Ellsworth. He took the time to answer my questions. That says alot about this company.
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Submitted by
john
a Cross Country Rider
from Los Angeles, Ca. usa Date Reviewed: April 18, 2004
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
123 bikes
Strengths:
I'll post it later I only had the bike for two days.
Weaknesses:
This frame is a joke. $2000 frame and no hydralic guides. What are the people at Ellsworth thinking that all of us are going to use v brakes. Can you imagin mickey mousing a cable line on a $2000 frame? Second the head badge is a sticker. My sticker headbadge came off on the first wash.
Similar Products Used:
Bianchi Tycoon, Santa Cruz Heckler
Bike Setup:
2004 truth full xtr
Bottom Line:
Dissapointed so far. Hopefully it will make up for it on the trail. I'm not happy so far by having to mickey mousing a cable line and it looks ugly. I've seen $220 bike with better guides.
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Submitted by
Bill
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: March 12, 2004
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Universal
Strengths:
Active travel, little-no bob, light, beautiful
Weaknesses:
chain stays
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla 100, Romic Dual Piston, CK Hubs on Mavic Disc Rims, Avid Mech and levers, Easton seatpost and handlebars, Thompson Stem, XTR/XT, RF Isis BB, Truvativ Cranks, Candy SL pedals
Bottom Line:
I've had my Truth for two years and I have been very happy with this bike. It works like all the reveiws say. I'm only posting because, as I was cleaning my bike yesterday after a ride, I noticed stress fractures in my drive-side chainstay up near the pivot point. Contacted Ellsworth and this is covered. I'm not sure how I see this. There is always a tradeoff between weight and strength, and clearly the Truth is a light-weight design. That's part of the reason I got it. However, for the chainstays to crack where they did concerns me. Ellsworth said that the new piece is beefier. Seems others have been having similar problems. Just wanted to let people know so they can be on the lookout for this too.
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Submitted by
Bob Furneaux
a Cross Country Rider
from Phoenix Date Reviewed: March 2, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Too many to pick one...
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
The Ride. The Name.
Weaknesses:
None yet.
Similar Products Used:
Diamondback V-8
Bike Setup:
I won't bore you with the setup, but It's nicely spec'd.
Bottom Line:
So far I've only put a few hundred miles on it, but it is truly the dream bike I expected. When I moved to Arizona (from the Chicago area), I didn't know how rocky it was out here. I had just purchased an Ibis Mojo (i.e hardtail) prior to the move, and it was my dream bike at the time. Boy was I in for a surprise. This place beats the heck out of a person on a hardtail. The Ellsworth allows me to climb and ride sections not possible before. Is it fair to cheat by utilizing full suspension? I don't care. The bike is awesome. Noticeably heavier than my hardtail, but that was expected. I'm still messing with the set-up on the suspension, but even in its present state it rocks. I'd definately recommend it to anyone looking to purchase a high end bike. Although there are probably better deals with the bigger and mass producing companies, you can't beat having a ride that was built by American hands in America. Until something unforseen occurs, 5 chilis overall. I only gave it 4 chilis for value because there are probably better values in the mass produced market. You definately get what you pay for in the Truth, and I don't mind paying for an American made product. Are they better quality? I like to think so. But then again, I see a lot of happy people on mass produced bikes. It comes down to choice and budget. Bottom line: I love my Ellsworth.
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Submitted by
Mudhen
a Cross Country Rider
from Louisville, KY Date Reviewed: February 15, 2004
Favorite Trail:
WT
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
Colorado Cyclist
Strengths:
Lightweight, nimble, responsive, fluid, and steadfast.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
I've been riding mountain bikes since 1985, so there are too many to mention.
Bike Setup:
Avid mechanical discs, Thomson post and stem, Race Face crank, bars, and rings, Chris King hubs and headset, Mavic rims, Crank Brothers pedals, and XT drivetrain. Manitou Super Air Black shock up front; Romic coil over air for the back.
Bottom Line:
I've been riding this bike for almost a year (got it in early spring 2003), so this is a follow up to the review I posted in late April last year.
I love this bike more every time I take it out. My 2003 Truth is lightweight, incredibly responsive, and very strong. The suspension design works very well. I'm able to clear steep, rooty sections that used to give me trouble on other bikes.
When researching my purchase I called the company and the two staffers I talked to on two different occasions went out of their way to ensure all my questions were answered. They were particularly helpful in providing feedback regarding which spring I should select for the rear Romic shock. I'm a heavy rider (190 pounds), and the 1.5 x 700 they recommended has worked perfectly. I was impressed when I received a personal phone call four or five weeks after my purchase, too. The purpose of the call? Ellsworth staff were ensuring I was completely satisfied with my purchase and checking to ensure the Truth was performing up to expectations.
I've never been happier with a bike. One year later and I wouldn't change a thing. If you're looking for a first-rate lightweight cross-country bike with a perfected suspension that elimates pedal bob, you owe yourself a test ride on a Truth.
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Submitted by
Doug
a Cross Country Rider
from Fairfax Station, VA. Date Reviewed: February 5, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Fountainhead
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Sunset Cycles (frame) Bill Larson (Parts)
Strengths:
Light, beautiful, strong and functional
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
GT LTS (squeaky), kona hot, gunnar rockhound, ibis mojo
Bike Setup:
Race Face Next LPs, SRAM gears, Thomson post and stem, AVID disk brakes, Time pedals
Bottom Line:
I have so much fun on this bike! My other bikes are steel hardtails that are known to excel in the woods...this bike beats them all hands down. I never thought that full suspension could actually increase the power that you have available to push the pedals. The Truth really does this by not letting the trail beat you up and transferring all of your push to moving forward on the trail. That is what Ellsworth says...and believe me, that is what they deliver. If you like being able to ride all kinds of trails for as long as you darn well please, then try it for yourself, you will not be disapointed. Plus, the company really stands behind their customers and their product.
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Submitted by
william okura
a
from sjc ca usa Date Reviewed: January 25, 2004
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
relatively light, efficient. fun/plush on the downhills.
Weaknesses:
very fragile. not as plush as ellsworth owners would like to think. someone didn't like my review i posted about my broken frt triangle fix and removed it... so i'm posting it again!
i do feel small ~ large bumps. so it does get slowed down just as easily as hardtails on crucial uphill sections of trail. ellsworth speaks of ear tickling theory, but in reality, make sure you demo any bike on a trail you're acquainted with before you make an impulsive purchase.
Bottom Line:
if you want an expensive efficient [xc only] frame, treat it like a pampered baby, ride trails with fear of your frame cracking, buy it.
if you want a reliable beast that will never break, buy something else with more metal mass. yes, more weight! possibly the id or moment.
ironically, in my previous post[a few reviews below], i stated that this frame is 'tuff'. a day after, it cracked. no hair-line crack but a big one extending over half the circumference of the downtube! my friend and i fixed it with j-b weld and then reinforced it with galvanized steel tubing. looks interesting but quite the work of art. best part about it is that it HOLDS and that it saves me $1200 of ellsworth-RIPOFF-crash-replacement expenses. i'll keep ya'll updated on the home fix endurance - so far, it's been fine through a few rides! long live the non consumer mentality!
this gray, 2001 truth frame's been good to me for three years except for this fatigue failure in the downtube and a recent chainstay failure. the chainstay was warrantied but not the downtube.
warranty downtime's a total drag! and for a bike/frame of this pricerange and supposed caliber, these problems should have been solved in ellsworth's so called aerospace-cad-design process.
buyer beware!
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Submitted by
Ming Lee
a Weekend Warrior
from Central Date Reviewed: January 13, 2004
Favorite Trail:
TMS
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1923.00
Purchased At:
Flying Ball
Strengths:
Very strong frame (knock on wood) Great customer service feedback Relatively light weight for a 20" frame
Weaknesses:
- Not that plush with the Romic Spring set up for the rear shock. I suspect I have a spring that's a little too heavy for my weight or the pedaling/anti-bob threshold is a bit high. Or... it could simply be the rear geometry is a trade-off for climbing efficiency and all mtn prowress.
Similar Products Used:
Cannodale F4000SL hardtail
Bike Setup:
usual high end snobbish parts
Bottom Line:
After riding the truth for a year I really wanted to post an honest opionion / review of the "Truth". Do I have any regrets, not really except.. . do wish it was a little more plush in the rear end but I guess the frame is set up for fast single track or Semi-all mountain riding. I've got the bike set up as an all mountain rig, Romic rear spring (heavy) and Fox Float 100RL frt fork. Low rise easton carbon bar left un-cut which gives me a lot of control. I love taking 1-2 foot drops and plowing head on into stairs at fast clips. I put my bike through hell and you know what, it's held up. Recently took a Giant VT2 out for a ride in New Zealand (less than half the price of truth) and noticed that it also rides very well. To be blunt if you want the exclusivity, "kudos" and snob appeal then spend the money. I would point out that there are some darn nice bikes out there which can basically do the same job if spec'd out correctly. As for my initial investment... yea, wouldn't have changed a thing.
Safe riding..
Mg
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Submitted by
Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from South Jersey Date Reviewed: January 13, 2004
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3800.00
Purchased At:
Local shop
Strengths:
Balanced bike with a very plush ride.
Weaknesses:
Well, I have been riding the Truth for three years (2000 frame). A hairline crack appeared a month ago on the chain stay just behind the cranks. This was discovered after seeing the same crack on another Truth frame. Yesterday, while on a very mild climb, the seat tube snapped just below the support structure for the front shock. So, the bike frame now reveals that there is considerable stress on the chain stay and fatale stress on the seat tube produced by a combination (I would imagine) of the torque of the suspension, the weight and impact of the rider on the seat and other factors. (I only weigh around 170)
I am taking the bike back to the shop to send back to Ellsworth. I hope they will honor the warranty. We will see how long and difficult this transaction will take.
Similar Products Used:
Klein Mantra...(really no comparison to the ride of the Truth...although the frame is still intact for what it is worth)
Bike Setup:
2001 Marzzochi front air fork suspension, Cane Creek air rear suspension, XTR brake levers, Avid mechanical brakes, 2002 XTR index shifters, 2003 XTR bottom bracket and crank set, XTR rear derailuer, Mavix disc wheels with Hugi hubs, Thompson seat post and stem, Easton monkey bars
Bottom Line:
I rode hundreds of miles on the Truth. I ride all year long in hot weather and in freezing temps. Most of it on the East Coast, but it made a few trips to Tahoe, Utah and Fruita. I took fairly good care of the bike.
Be wary of the frame. Although it makes for a nice ride, its durability is a huge issue. Make sure you check the frame for any evidence of stress. Once aluminum is stressed...its pretty much done.
If Ellsworth does honor the warranty and replaces the frame, I will have a big decision whether to ride the new Truth frame or go out and try to find a more durable substitute. Maybe a Moots Smoothie Blend or maybe what everyone is riding today...a Santa Cruz Blur?
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Submitted by
william okura
a Weekend Warrior
from sjc, ca, usa Date Reviewed: January 13, 2004
Favorite Trail:
noble cyn/san juan/401crest.bt.
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$3200.00
Purchased At:
bikecompany
Strengths:
everything the company boasts of.
Weaknesses:
too many owners who write up unintelligent reviews of this bikes abilities. STOP reiterating what the past 100 reviews have said! submit reviews which intelligently compare and contrast the truth's strengths and weaknesses with other bikes YOU have experienced. doing so will make your review effectively stand out from the rest, not making you look like a brainwashed ellsworth label sell-out, not making you look like a crazed fool who dropped a fortune to purchase the truth based on hype alone, but by you giving SPECIFIC REASONS AND COMPARISONs on why the truth is the best friggin bike available for our type of riding!
if you own a truth, be clear in you description why it is the best! that's how you, your bike, and your bike manufacturer gain TRUE respect...THAT'S THE TRUTH.
qr 20, xt drive/disc, romic rear, thomson stem/post, panaracer xc, chriskind head, rhynolite. it's a welter-weight tank.
Bottom Line:
with almost three years on the beast, i've never had problems with the bearing pivots. dented the bottom of downtube/still no porblems.
yup it's strange that i set this up for light/efficient/freeride/xc but it welcomes anything i throw at it. i don't know if it helps that i'm only 170~185lbs, but the light-weight frame has stood up to the company boasts of being brick-house-tuff.
comparisons:
fsr elite by the nature of it's suspension-geometry seems to be noticably plusher. it really is hard to say. if they made anymore i'd consider selling my truth for one. if anyone has more experience with this comparison, i'd love to know! unfortunately, specialized only make epic/enduro/stumpjumpers anymore...
sc heckler is plush but it bob's too much. i'd question the single pivot stiffness too.
turner with the 4 inches of rear felt very similar to the truth but after a whole day of downhilling/xc demo'ing i missed the plush/efficient nirvana that i'm used to on my truth. subtle but significant. that's life, right? i'm not sure if this is the same reason why, but i also thought that the ride on the turner lacked the feel of resilience i'm used to on my truth. almost like the difference between a dead feel of an aluminum hardtail vs the resilient ride of a steel hardtail.
i'd love to hear an in depth comparo with a blur and truth.
the id feels too tall, not good when climbing up STEEP hills or braking down them.
imo, the truth is the best all-arounder sporting a strong frame[even light weight], 4inches of plush effiecient rear. that's all i need for all my epic-rides/lite-trials/lite-hucking!
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Submitted by
Shane Little
a Cross Country Rider
from Carlsbad, CA Date Reviewed: January 11, 2004
Favorite Trail:
T9
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
Colorado Cyclist
Strengths:
Fantastic suspension and overall superior handling. The frame is a work of art. Pure pride of ownership. This rig will appeal to the cross country rider/racer who likes to put in an epic ride from time to time. Set up is simple with the fox Float shock. Suspension fully active under breaking.
Weaknesses:
Pricey but worth it. Requires lots of concessions to spouse to justify purchase.
Similar Products Used:
Schwinn Moab, Santa Cruz Blur
Bike Setup:
XT, Manitou Black, single speed
Bottom Line:
Call me crazy, but I converted my rig into a single speed. It's a bit quixotic, I know, but it suits my needs. The four-bar link suspension coupled with a single rear cog provides what I consider to be a unique balance between contemporary design and traditional simplicity. The Truth reaches a Zen-like state by shedding the other 26 gears.
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Submitted by
gordon
a Cross Country Rider
from Brighton, Sussex, England Date Reviewed: December 12, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Monarch Crest - Colorado
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2792.00
Purchased At:
FreeBorn , Horsham
Strengths:
Light Weight - and strong (04 model) Superb active Suspension that copes extreamley well with all kinds of trail conditions encountered Bike looks so good
Weaknesses:
Stock rear derailler hanger does not work with XTR rear mech and 34 tooth rear cassette - You get a nasty noise from jockey wheels - BUT you can fix this problem by buying a replacement custom hanger from Speed Goat Anodizing where ellsworth lettering is etched is very thin and comes off easily - if rubbed against a tree for example (when leaned against it). Not so much as a weakness but a feature - the bike does BOB when you cycle along - no matter what pedaling technique you use - but the funny thing is unless your watching it you dont notice it. The frame is very expensive in England - but i did get a pretty good discount on the components i bought to finish the frame with - which meant the complete bike cost about as much as it would have done if i'd bought it in the states. The design of the frame causes you to collect huge heaps of mud around bottom bracket and chainstays - I use disks so dont get clogging up around tyre - but i imagine if you did use v-brakes they would get pretty bunged up.
Bike Setup:
Ellsworth Truth 04+ Talas RLC Forx + Full XTR 04 Disk Groupset & wheels + Raceface Deux Stem and XY Post + Chris King Headset + Easton EA70 Bars + Terry Ti-Fly Saddle
Bottom Line:
It may be one of the more expensive frames on the market - but its worth every dollar, since i've had my Truth i've been out riding much more frequently than i used to with my old bike as its such a joy to ride. Even now its winter and its raining and muddy i'am still getting out 4 times a weeks on my bike - I never used to do that with my old bike..
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Submitted by
Trevor!
a Racer
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Date Reviewed: December 9, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Old tram line route
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Strong climbing ability. Energy efficient design. Plushness. Compliant suspension that eats the small and the big. No brake induced or chain torque induced effects on the rear suspension. Geometry Shot peened anodized finish (Sweet)
Weaknesses:
Bad name it seems to have on MTBR. Absence of Hydro guides. (Though Jag-wire make the perfect accessory for this and they look perfect too)
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS, Giant Hardtail.
Bike Setup:
2004 18" frame, Fox F100X with Sram XO, FSA Carbon Pros, XT/XTR hydraulic brakes, Twin Ti pedals, King ISO/VXC/Supercomp wheelset with eclipse tubeless kit + hutchinson pythons, King Headset, Easton EC Seatpost and Flat bars, Selle Italia SLR, Foam Grips, FSA XC115 Stem, Ti bolts here and there.
Bottom Line:
Bottom line is that I am impressed and almost overwhelmed by the fine performance of this bike.
Ride quality aside, one of the first things I noticed on the bike, is the nice balanced feel I experience. Being into racing I like the way I am nicely stretched out yet still comfortable. The bike feels nice and responsive and quite nimble in tight single track. The geometry results in a bike that is quick and responsive while still maintaining a degree of stability and balance going down steep stuff or climbing. In contrast to my last bike, a giant NRS, I find the Truth to be very responsive and a quicker steering bike, making tight single track and fast cornering even more of a thrill.
The suspension is the part of the bike that has superseded my expectations. Continually in these reviews and on the tech-talks you here the comments of how the suspension is just so plush. I can attest to it. The suspension is so very plush, and also endless feeling, hit a rock garden and the bike will just chew it up. climbing rocky sections or heck even steps is great. The suspension will flatten it out for you and you can focus on getting to the top or to the bottom. I like rocky stuff or anything technically challenging and find I can ride stuff better thanks to the active suspension. Unlike the giant NRS this bike remains active when it needs to and keeps pretty much bob-less elsewhere, unless you happen to mash or have poor pedal technique.
I think the Terra logic fork with 100mm travel makes for a perfect match on the Truth. I wont comment on the fork but with the Truth it seems a perfect match.
Efficiency is important to me and the ICT design with the Pro pedal fox shock seems to keep the rear end bob free. You can get the bike to bob and that happens on most duallies no matter how "Efficient" they are claimed to be, but when it matters the bike remains close to bob-less, or at least I cannot see it bob when I ride. Climbing rough sections will see the suspension remain active and consequently keep the rear glued to the ground. On the flat stuff I can pedal in 44x11 and have a firm rear.
Frame construction looks great. Neat flawless welds, lovely shot peened tubing just looks wonderful and cleans easily. I Have fallen in rocks and on smooth stuff and haven't marked, scratched or dented the frame.
Love the bike, always impressed and seem to always have a smile, no matter if I climb or if I descend. I couldn't imagine ever wanting to ride another bike - The Truth is in my book the BEST out there.
Finally: I have no issues running a 34T cog in the back, no seatpost clamp problems, no weld issues or any real problems at all. In summary a perfect machine for the racer or the passionate alike.
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Submitted by
Dirk
a Cross Country Rider
from Mishawaka, IN, US Date Reviewed: November 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Flat Rock, Comfort TX
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
WrenchScience.com
Strengths:
The way I feel when I am on my bike, Weight, warranty, looks, Ellsworth name, distinguishing
Weaknesses:
None so far. Leave the price alone. If everyone could afford it what fun would that be?
Similar Products Used:
Straight off a GT hardtail. Good riddens.
Bike Setup:
2004 Truth, 2004 Fox Pro Pedal, Fox RLC, XTR, SRAM X.0, Thomson, Chris King everywhere possible, custom tubeless wheels, disc brakes, some other special treats.
Bottom Line:
Let me try to bring something useful to the table for those that are contiplating forking over a large chunk of change for a "bicycle".
I have been riding mountain bikes for 10 years. I used to ride anywhere from 2-3 times/week and average 8 miles/ride. I spent $1200 on my first real bike and thought that was a lot. I researched full suspensions for months. I decided to build a dream bike. I used WrenchScience.com. They are all about fit and compatibility for high end bikes. I built my Truth with the help of Chris Dadzitis at WrenchScience.com. Here is what happened.
I got unbelievable service before, during, and after the sale. Chris helped me dial in the components for my style of riding and my priorities. What resulted was a unique masterpiece.
I now ride 4-6 days/week and average 15 miles/ride but prefer >20. I can't wait until the next ride. I ride with several groups all over. Most of them are Sport and Expert racers. The Truth gives me the confidence to not only hang on but lead the pack. I feel like I belong up front. Isn't that what it's all about...the feeling? That's what brings you back to ride each time.
I ride at least 2 levels above what I normally did in just 3 months on the Truth. My love for mountain biking has become an obsession. I had to buy a high-end road bike to train all year to ensure dominance on this flawless bike.
I can climb the loosest, rockiest (Southern Texas), nastiest climbs and with ease. The descents are even better. I am pedaling in the 3rd chainring on downhills with full control. I drop people like a bad habit. This bike breeds confidence!
I built this bike to 25 lb. This is pretty light for a full suspension. You can get lower with a SID fork and some other carbon components. I went for a mix of durability, stiffness, and weight. BTW, I am 178 lbs and also ride motocross. I am always looking for jumps during my "fun days". I've kept it under 3 ft drops and have no problems. This bike is silent! No creaks, cracks, pops. And definetely no pedal-induced bob. This bike does not need lockout. Just outstanding engineering and craftsmanship.
This bike is for people that are looking for the all purpose bike: race, 12/24-hour (can't wait to do one), train, fun rides, riders that are looking for individuallity and class. I get more compliments on this bike. People literally drool. I would encourage this bike for < 200 lb riders unless you don't get crazy on the jumping. THIS IS NOT A DOWNHILL OR FREE RIDE BIKE!!! And please, keep it off the streets. This is a hardcore cross country MOUNTAIN bike.
Bottom line: Buy this bike from WrenchScience.com. Put the best components you can afford. This bike deserves it. For me, it doesn't get any better.
Hope this helps. I used these reviews exclusively in my making my purchase descision. Thanks to those that contributed.
Forgot to mention, 2004 model fixed a lot of durability issues some other reviewers were talking about. And the new Fox Pro Pedal is a marriage with this frame forever.
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Submitted by
Vaughn
a Weekend Warrior
from Oroville Date Reviewed: November 27, 2003
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Cross country efficient. Smooth climber, quick descender. Better on rolling singletrack than wide open 4x4 terrain. Light weight, except for the heavier components I've bolted on. Great traditional diamond shape bicycle appearance.
Weaknesses:
Fatigue life being reached now. Short Derailleur hanger does not match Shimano specs. Inability to use top swing front derailleur. Steep price.
Similar Products Used:
No significant saddle time on any other bikes. It basically comes down to the fact that I would rather not give up time on this bike. It suits my style of riding well.
Bike Setup:
2000 Medium Blue Truth w/Romic, Fox Float 100RLC, Thomsen stem and seatpost, Salsa seatpost quick release collar, Chris King headset, Raceface Next, Hugi 240
Bottom Line:
What a great bike. Entering my fourth season on this bike. Another great ride today. This is my third or fourth MTBR review of this bike, so if you want context for the previous few years, I think my reviews are still around.
Still climbs quick and quiet with longish top tube. I climb to descend and have few complaints about it's downhill manners. A little quick with the more upright position, but great in medium tight singletrack. The front end pushes a little with high speed g out turns.
Found fatigue cracks on the rocker arm this spring, and then on the chainstay later this summer. Turn around was one week each, which is outstanding. When I asked if I could swap out the seatstay, since I expected it to fatigue out next, I was told that would be $240. Ouch. I fully expect that piece will die at some point, I just hope it doesn't occur in the middle of a busy riding season. The new pieces have been beefed up in the exact areas that cracked.
Three solid years of XC riding on this frame is great. My previous five bikes lasted about three years total...and that is with normal XC type rides. No huck, no trials, no stupid stunts, no real air.
Just for fun I might get a Blur, which will be a fun comparison I will be sure to post.
I would love to try the 04 Truth with the repositioned rocker with the extended eye to eye and 2 to 1 compression ratio. My '00 has a ?1.75:1? so it supposedly ramps up a bit quicker, which deletes smooth full 100mm advertised travel. O well, I'll just stick with mine for a while.
I am disappointed for the previous guy about his poor seatpost tolerances. I can say that I know about 10 family and friends who own Truths and Ids from '99 thru 03 and have had no issues with this. We all run the Salsa quick release with no 7 UP shims required.
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Submitted by
Shawn Talbot
a Racer
from Kincardine, ON, Canada Date Reviewed: November 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Many
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1975.00
Purchased At:
Local Kincardine Bike Shop (Rob Storey)
Strengths:
First class craftsmanship, Lightweight, unbelievably smooth thru rough terrain, very efficient when climbing in the saddle ( climbing out of the saddle is no problem once you get used to it), comfortable descender and EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE! I experienced a small fracture on my rear seatstay just above the upper weld on my disc mount. I emailed Ellsworth customer service on a Sunday evening and recieved an immediate response first thing Monday morning. I sent them my seatstay and recieved a brand new beefed up 2004 seatstay and they even sent me new stickers to replace the old ones I put on my broken seatstay.
Weaknesses:
I have NO complaints.
Similar Products Used:
Owned 3 hardtails and a Jamis Dakar Comp previous to this bike.
Bike Setup:
18" Black Ellsworth Truth with Fox Float R rear shock and Manitou X-Vert Air front fork, Chris King headset, Thomson stem and seatpost, CrossmaxUST wheels, SRAM XO shifters & deraileur, XT front deraileur, XTR cassette/chin, Truvativ Stylo team cranks with Blackspire chainrings, Truvativ Team flat handlebars, Avid mechanical disc brakes and SLR saddle.
Bottom Line:
I truly love this bike. I raced the Ontario cup circuit this past summer and did two 24 hour solo events including the World Solo 24hrs of Adrenalin Championships in Whistler. I held off from posting this review to make sure my Ellsworth Truth would live up to its outstanding reputation. I can now verify that the reviews I had read on this bike before making my purchase are truthful and justified. In my opinion, the Ellsworth Truth is perfectly suited for those who want one bike that has tremendous versatility. Don't forget the EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE!
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Submitted by
Jason Worley
a Cross Country Rider
from Scottsboro, Al. USA Date Reviewed: November 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
jworley@scottsboro.org
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2495.00
Purchased At:
Colorado Cyclist
Strengths:
All the same ones you will read from others' reviews Great bike!!! I got a great deal from Colorado Cyclist $2495, including shipping; Are you kidding me?
Weaknesses:
Can make you neglect more important responsibilities, because you won't be able to stop thinking about riding it. Makes me a total poser/show-off, because the bike is capable of much more than I am. It sucks to have a bike this great & not be able to keep up with your riding buddies. Actual bike weaknesses: no hydraulic cable guides; A seatpost quick release would be nice.
Similar Products Used:
none; former hardtail rider
Bike Setup:
XT drivetrain; Hayes hyd. discs, Mavic 317's, Black Super Air, Fox Float R shock, Ritchey Pro bar & stem, Thompson post, Selle Italia Trans Am gel saddle, RaceFace Good-n-Evil Grips, IRC Mythos 2.1s, Cane Creek S2 headset, Carbon Fiber headset spacers, Time Z control pedals
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike for XC racing/riding to aggressive trail riding. I also understand that 24 hour racers love it. If you are a black diamond rider or downhiller, stay FAR, FAR away!!! You would kill this bike in short order. If you like to ride all day & want to still have a smile on your face, this should be your bike....and that's the Truth! As far as price goes, the frame is worth every cent. Dress it up right & you will be happy for a very long time.
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Submitted by
Billy
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney Date Reviewed: October 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Manly Dam
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Incredible Ride
Weaknesses:
Me
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS, Trek Fuel, Specialized etc
Bottom Line:
This is a follow up from a previous review. I have upgraded to a FOX Propedal Float R and have been using it for around 2 months now. Any slight bobbing that was caused by my inefficient pedaling style is now gone. What I am left with is a firm platform that is very plush when a bump comes along, it has a more rising spring rate as compared to the Vanilla. All this on a frame design which is always FULLY ACTIVE and is designed to isolate braking forces from the suspension system, fly down hill, brake & turn in the last second with your suspension working all the time. Climb up a steep hill, mash down hard over loose baby heads, slippery rocks & roots and the suspension is still free to work with no 'stiffening up' the TRUTH's traction is amazing. Sure it’s expensive especially here in Australia, but it really does ride and feel better than anything else.
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Submitted by
thegood
a Cross Country Rider
from Maryland Date Reviewed: October 25, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
Wrench Science
Strengths:
pedaling efficiency, lightweight FS ride (on my scale it weighs in at between 24.5 to 25.0 lbs...my scale only reads out in 0.5 lb increments), looks bad-ass
Weaknesses:
Price...fully tricked out will cost you major bucks (but it's worth every penny). I'm not crazy about the new XTR rapid rise rear derailleur...you can upshift rapidly but you only downshift one gear at a time, and the low-normal spring feels kinda weak...preferred old-style XTR rear derailleur better.
Similar Products Used:
GT i-drive team, but in all honesty, it doesn't even compare to the Truth.
Bike Setup:
2004 Truth, 2003 XTR everything (disc), Fox F100X fork, Mavic Crossmax SL wheelset, Thomson stem & seatpost, Easton Monkeylite SL riser, WTB Laser V stealth saddle, Fox AVA RL shock w/ ProPedal damping, Time ATAC carbon pedals, Continenatal Explorer Pro UST
Bottom Line:
This bike rocks...I can get used to the new XTR rear derailleur. I swear that I'm riding a lot faster. The stable platform valving fork and rear shock give this bike a very sportscar firm feel. It climbs really awesome, I can't feel any bob (perhaps the dude that reviewed before me complaining about bob has an older frame/shock). The 4 inches of travel, front and back, seem to soak up everything. The fork and rear shock offers a lot of adjustment, so you can really tune the suspension in to your riding style. The Conti explorer pros hook up really good too. Again, this bike kicks major ass...get it if you got the dough. Wrench Science sets you up really nice. Best bike I ever rode.
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Submitted by
Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: October 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
North of the Border
Strengths:
Excellent balance and geometry, light weight, quality construction.
Weaknesses:
Ghost shifting until I replaced the XTR shifters with SRAM XO. Shifting has been perfect ever since.
This bike covers the spectrum of cross country riding from race-capable when set up for it, to aggressive epic trail riding. It allows you to climb and descend with confidence and is by far the best bike I've had the pleasure of riding.
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Submitted by
Alvin
a Cross Country Rider
from Singapore Date Reviewed: October 1, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Johor
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Strengths:
Great Looker and awesome design Outstanding Finish Out of this world performance on the fly One of the most competitively priced frames around
Weaknesses:
Havent found one yet
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Sugar 3, Trek 98/100
Bike Setup:
04 XT/XTR Group Set, SRam X.0, 04 Forx Float
Bottom Line:
This bike gives you the performance that is truly unheard of. The plushness of the ride when effectively set up actually gives you the extended time on the trail without soaking up your strength through loss of energy from inefficient bike frames as no lock outs are truly needed. In addition, the bike's superb looks and design is truly a marvel and always garner envious looks and awe. However the true joy is when you hit the trails and really get to experience the feeling of uncontrollable happiness.
This is a bike for anyone who can afford it but the ones who has some years of biking experience will actually appreciate it more.
This bike rocks and long live the king!!
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Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Singapore Date Reviewed: September 11, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
The mesmerising ride The durable anodised finish the perfect welding
Weaknesses:
It's so beautiful you dont want to take it on muddy rides! Automatically makes you a poser/show-off
Similar Products Used:
Trek Fuel 100, GF Sugar 3+, Bridgestone MB1; Tested: Klein palamino, merlin XLM, Litespeed Tanasi, Santa cruz blur, Specialized epic.
Bike Setup:
2004 Truth frame, Cross Max SL: Full XTR discs, Thomsons, Monkeylite SL, Fizik Aliente, 959s, Fox 100RLC
Bottom Line:
What can I say that isnt already said in the past 40 reviews? Before I bought the bike, I questioned the accuracy of these reviews...are Truth owners biased? are they trying to justify the crazy amount of money for a bicycle? People, I just wish it were so...because then we could better spend our hard earned cash on important things like our children's education or a downpayment on a property. But the Truth is...how shall I put it?...magical. I've ridden good bikes before, and own a top of the line Trek but the Truth is truly miles ahead. Where do I start? Comfort and efficiency is unparalleled. It just glides over the most rutted courses. Climbing is spectacular..somehow the rear tire just claws its way into the ground and you accelerate up steep inclines like some crazed up caffeinated mountain goat. handling is superb, negotiating techinical trails is a joy. I could go on forever but I gotta go ride now. Am I obsessed with my bike? Yes. Am I in love? Yes. Is this a unbiased review? I hope not but then why dont you verify it for yourself by test riding one. Then buy it. It's only money man. Life's too short.
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Submitted by
Emilio
a Racer
from San Marcos Date Reviewed: August 31, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Ellsworth
Strengths:
Light frame weight (2004 frame) Sexy Plush suspension feel No pedal energy loss from suspension Sexy Exclusivity
Weaknesses:
Expensive Steers a little quick with 80mm fork Must take care not to dent thin down & top tubes No integral disc brake cable guides
Similar Products Used:
GT I-Drive Team Ellsworth Id GT NRS Trek Fuel 100 Schwinn Homegrown hardtail (similar bike weight) GT XCR-1000
Bike Setup:
02 SID SL 120/80psi, 01 Crossmax UST, 03 XTR crank/FD/shifters, '02 XTR RD, Avid Mag Ti brakes, Thomson 410 post, Titec Ti stem, Easton Monkey lite riser bars, Egg Beaters steel,Python air light, S-Works Rockster. Fox AVA R ProPedal 85psi or Progressive 5th Element air 70/50psi
Bottom Line:
Love it! I was skeptical that a fully active 4" bike would pedal as efficiently and be as light as my old GT. To my suprise it was better abd lighter. Much better and 1/2 lb lighter. The Truth was stellar out of the saddle. It took me a while to figure out that even though me pounding down on the bike while pedaling might make the suspension compress a touch the bike always shot forward with every bit of energy put into the pedals. The deal there is that the chain torque is completely isolated from the suspension with some fancy (and patented) pivot centers, geometry and such. The crucible is any steep or rough climb that requires maximum power and fully active suspension. The bike handles both and allows me to find traction when out of the saddle on just about anything while still scatting up the trail like a hardtail. Sweet.
My 20" 2004 Truth built up to 23.4 lbs with a cage, 5th element air and pedals so I can't complain about the weight. My Homegrown hardtail is 21.5. Thats only two pounds to give up and the Truth is soooo much easier to ride fast. The bikes feels light, steers quick and the acceleration with no lockout needed still amazes me.
I have two shocks. The Fox AVR R ProPedal is the the best all around performance shock I think. The 5th air gives up a small but noticable amount of plushness for a 120g weight saving. The volume adjust canister on the Fox AVA deal came loose in the first week. It pops right back on but it's still annoying. I'm waiting for my first frame scratch but the finish seems way tough.
I'm torn on the value rating. On one hand it's way freakin expensive. OTOH, you can't get a different bike that rides and works like this at any price so what it cost is what it costs.
Oh yeah, who should buy it? Those who want a fast XC machine with ALL the benefits of full suspension without any of the drawbacks. Those who shouldn't? Downhillers, freeriders, people who toss their bike in the back of a truck like a sack of potatos.
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Submitted by
Christian Long
a Cross Country Rider
from Montréal, now living in Denver, CO Date Reviewed: August 31, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Colorado trail
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
o Very strong descender o Beautiful paint job o Pretty light
Weaknesses:
o Not as fast as other FS on the uphill o Price, even compared to other high-end frames
Similar Products Used:
Now own a Yeti ASR, previously owned a Specialized FSR-XC, also tested Rocky Mountain ETSX and Element, Cannondale Jekyll.
Bottom Line:
Reading these comments and listening to a friend of mine that really loves his Truth, I really considered this bike when I bought my new frame in March this year. I remember riding my friends bike last year when he got it. My first impression was that it felt a little loose, a bit noodlish. I assumed that the suspension wasn't adjusted for my weight. I know that this goes against most of the comments here so I took it for a full trail test this Spring.
I rode White Ranch in the Denver foothills the day after I rode the exact same trail with a demo Yeti ASR. I really wanted to like the Truth, I loved the paint job and it would have been fun to ride the same as my friend too.
The bike felt exactly the same as I remembered from a year ago: loose. It kind of felt like other all mountain bikes that I tried before that have a lot of travel. I tried different suspension settings but I could not eleminate the bobbing when pedaling. It is a very comfortable ride but it didn't feel efficient compared to the Yeti. Everytime I ride with my friend, I see him bob even on the flats. Many of the reviews say that there is no bob so I don't understand how me, my friend (who rides all the time) and the bike shop pros can't eleminate the bob on this bike. My friend also needed his frame replaced because it broke (the lower tube, close to the headset). He didn't have many problems other than being out of a bike for about 3 weeks.
On the other hand, the downhill capabilities are impressive. The rear suspension was the best I tried for downhill, very stable, very comfortable. Also, this bike looks great.
I ended up choosing the Yeti ASR and for me, that was the best I could get for my style of riding. The Yeti frame is truly bob free, has similar quality craftmanship but 20% less expensive. That leaves me to say that the Truth is a little too much $, maybe its the paint.
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Submitted by
Beth Clark
a Cross Country Rider
from Palos Hts, IL Date Reviewed: August 28, 2003
Favorite Trail:
The New Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
RICHARDSBICYCLES.COM
Strengths:
The spot peened is excellent. I went with the Romic racing shock. The ITC tracks very well. The sealed pivot points are a pleasure, no maintance. Lifetime warranty. The frame looks like a peice of art, and its the best.
Weaknesses:
NONE, you get what you pay for.
Similar Products Used:
Schwinn homegrown, Trek 8000
Bike Setup:
Large / grey w/ Romic Racing Shock, Psylo SL fork, spinergy wheels, Thompson seat post & stem, Easton Monkeylite Bars, the rest of the bike is a full XTR. Nothing but the best!!!
Bottom Line:
Its the best bike that I've ever owned. I couldn't be happier. It's sure a little easier to get out of bed in the morning. The bike climbs just as well as my homegrown and even better, the back wheel sticks to the ground more than on my hardtail. Its much faster than I thought it would be considering that its a full suspension bicycle. I have no regrets about buying this bike. , and the place I purchansed it from either, RICHARDSBICYCLES.COM. I coudln't have asked for any better service. They are outstanding, especially with any adjustments that I need in a hurry. The bike was built flawlessly, and there's no doubt that they are a pro shop.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from North Bend, WA Date Reviewed: August 27, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Anything near Moab
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Light weight. Balanced handling. Effecient pedaling and climbing. Anodized finish.
Weaknesses:
Better bike than I am rider.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Raven, Proflex, Two styles of K2 FS
Bike Setup:
Manitou black elite air 100mm, Cane Creek Cloud 9, XTR, Mavic tubless
Bottom Line:
I love riding the Truth. I just returned from Moab and confirmed how much fun this bike is to pedal up hill and down. Great bike for cross country riders and some racing. Not a a bike for free riders (Buy an Id instead).
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Submitted by
Paul Masson
a Cross Country Rider
from Aviemore Scotland Date Reviewed: August 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Any high Cairngorm goat tracks (naughty!)
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Fat Tread Bikes Aviemore
Strengths:
Climbs better than my old superlite on smooth climbs and way better on tricky traction testers.Long top tube allows for a shorter stem (100mm)and consequently steers through tight singletrack oh so slinky! Rear end very flickable (stiffer laterally than single pivot) Routing for SRAM rear gives smooth cable run into mech' (once rear seat stay had been drilled out to allow full length outer / easier cable changes)Frame weighed in bang on the money at 5.3lbs.
Weaknesses:
Would have really liked one in a lacquered candy apple green paint job to allow for more post ride polishing... Seriously the rear internal cable routing is a right faff, but sorted out with 5.5mm drill and full length outer through seatstay, essential in Northern Scotland.
Similar Products Used:
Everything ! Turner / Santa Cruz (Blur and S'lite) / Specialised / etc, etc
Bike Setup:
All the usual suspects; XTR,SRAM(X.0),Fox floats front and rear,Hope's,carbon bits and a 6 yr old well scuffed Flite that makes it all just perfect.Oh and my own wheel build of DT Hugi 240/317's/spline drive nipples/DT Revolution/Stan's tubeless that is lighter than any of these pre-built non-repairable wheel sets! 25lbs dead. Although keen to slip on a Fifth element air and Formula SL's just to lose that extra half pound...
Bottom Line:
Makes me giggle,goes up and down better than my old s'lite (which lets face it is none too shabby itself)and slices rocky mountain singletrack like a recently sharpened sharp thing.Knocked it down on value because lets face it this is a very expensive piece of kit, and if you don't ride rocky,rooty trails then a nice steel hardtail would do nicely,but I don't so it wouldn't.
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Submitted by
Homie
a Cross Country Rider
from SF, CA. USA Date Reviewed: August 18, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Strengths:
Great suspension Lightweight Very nice cable routing (just wait until you fix a bike with bad routing)
Weaknesses:
Would like a "disc only" option. 100mm travel is the limit for forks.
Similar Products Used:
2 years on a NRS-1 Demo'd many
Bike Setup:
Black Super 80-100, XT, Avid mech. discs.
Bottom Line:
The bike is good.
The Truth is active uphill and downhill unlike my old NRS. There is no brake or pedal induced lock up at all. I couldn't be happier with the ride.
With all the niceties, I wish I didn't have to use a zip tie for the rear disc cable housing.
My only thought: Since Giant is already paying the licensing fee to Specialized, couldn't they stop with the NRS design and just make a $2000 version of the Truth?
Anyway, I love the bike, just wish there was a way to get this kind of performance for cheaper.
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Submitted by
HTail
a
from SF Bay area Date Reviewed: August 14, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Great geometry, relatively light, excellent for climbs, nimble on single tracks, stable at downhill speeds. Beautifully constructed, slick machining on the suspension arms and stays.
Weaknesses:
Pricy, cable routing for disc brakes non existant.
After riding a hard tail for the past 10 plus years, I was worried that going FS would yield a fat sluggish bike. Just the opposite has been my experience, this bike is so much better than my prev HT's. The Truth's geometry is spot on, quick on technical stuff, yet stable at speed, and really does climb as advertised...I'm amazed!
I have the Romic rear shock which is contributing to the excellent performance. It's truly an amazing shock, soaking up slow speed bumps and dips during strenous climbs, while smoothing out lightning fast descents. It's a strange experience floating over stuff I'd previously be roughed up by, and doesn't bob much when mashing.
I have not experienced much loss in efficiency on climbs, maybe noticing the bike is a tad heavier, but the suspension makes up for this by tracking the ground allowing me to follow straighter lines up the trails, without the setbacks from being bounced in and out of dips on the trail.
The frame is a real beauty, I just wish I didn't have to zip tie the disc brake cable to the seat stays, seems kinda lame, but works fine just the same.
Really enjoying this bike, and I think my mix of top shelf components are defintely contributing to the joy. It's a big investment but save up and buy one, I'm sure it will exceed all your expectations as it did mine.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from Loma Linda, CA Date Reviewed: August 1, 2003
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
IE bikes
Strengths:
Versatility, weight, pulsh suspension, energy efficiency.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Trek fuel (It's hardly similar)
Bike Setup:
Race setup: Carbon SID, Cross Max SL, XT disc brakes with Stan's alluminum rotors, FSA carbon cranks, all other drive train XTR, 959's, Fox float R shock. Trail setup: Drive train the same, Fox float forx RLC 100, Romic Ti EXE shock.
Bottom Line:
I have absolutely no compaints on this bike. It's light enough for XC racing (I've got it to just over 24 lbs Lg frame) and strong enough for aggressive trail riding. The suspension truly dosen't need a lock out.
The boys at IE bikes gave me a great deal on the bike. They gave me a better deal then all the other shops I priced and they have been great about servicing the bike. I give them a strong recomend.
Bottom line: Awesome bike. You get what you pay for.
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Submitted by
Bz
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4300.00
Purchased At:
www.wrenchscience.com
Strengths:
Reputation, warranty, weight, pedaling efficiency
Weaknesses:
price
Similar Products Used:
Tried Specialized Enduro and Epic Marathon
Bike Setup:
'03 Truth frame with Romic option, XTR shifters/cranks, Avid Ultimate brake levers, Thomson Elite stem, Easton Monkeylite SL riser bar, EC70 carbon seatpost, Crossmax XL hoops with Panaracer Fire XT tires, Fox Talax RLC fork, WTB Laser V Ti saddle, ATAC pedals, Salsa flip lock seat clamp, Avid mech. disc brakes (f & r).
Bottom Line:
Forget what you know about bikes--this one will make you a better rider! It may take 1 or 2 rides to adjust to, but once you are on it, forget it! It'll climb up tight technical stuff no problem, and on descents of rocky, rooty stuff, you'll be sailing. Light enough to do XC, tough enough to do limited free riding (especially if you aren't a clydesdale). Versatile enough to be my only bike. Future changes to my all-out rig MAY include titanium spring for the Romic, lighter ATAC pedals (perhaps Stan's ti upgrade kit), and damn it, open-bath hydraulic brake setup (although the Avid's are fantastic, no complaints here...except weight). I'm also going to bite the bullet and go tubeless on the next go-round. All the above upgrades should be good for ~2+lbs, which should bring the weight down to the ~25-26lb range for a spec'd rig...see you guys at the Norba nationals!
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Submitted by
Rick
a Racer
from Nevada City , CA. USA Date Reviewed: July 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Tahoe Rim Trail
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
Ellsworth
Strengths:
This is my second Truth. I bulit this one up to be an XC race bike and it works great! The bike climbs great and having the plush travel for the downhills is great. Cathy at Ellsworth cutomer service is great!
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Specialized S works
Bike Setup:
Medium Truth,Mavic 517 ceramic rim w/king hubs/Cloud 9 rear shock/Thopson post/WTB Laser Ti saddle/Avid TI V brakes/FSA Team Issue cranks & BB, shimano 959 pedals, Sram 9.0 shifters and rear derailer (highly reccomend), XT front derailer,FSA Stem. Easton Monkey Lite Riser bars, Sram Brake Levers, Fox FLoat 100 Front fork for technical rides & races as well as a SId Team w/ remote lock out for the smooth stuff.
Bottom Line:
THe perfect all around XC bike! WOrks great for racing as well as some real technical riding. If you get a Truth go with SRAM!!! I had Shimano XTR on my first Truth and the shifting works 10x better with the Sram and there is a lot less chain slap as well. I was a die hard shimano fan for years but the SRAM works sooooooo much better!
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Submitted by
Mike Markins
a Weekend Warrior
from Orland Park, IL, USA Date Reviewed: July 15, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Swallow Cliff
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$3100.00
Purchased At:
richardsbicycles.com
Strengths:
Lightweight. Great handling. Easy to ride. Smooth shifting. Looks really cool. Has its own personality.
Weaknesses:
No weakness.
Similar Products Used:
Trek, foes
Bike Setup:
Full Shimanno XT, thompson, easton, ect....
Bottom Line:
Great bike. A lot of fun to ride on the trails. The spot peaned finish is unbeleivable. The romic racing shock really soaks up the bumps. The service i received at www.richardsbicycles.com was excellent!!! I would recomend buying from them. They were VERY knowledgable!!!
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Submitted by
em
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from IL Date Reviewed: July 12, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
I'll reffer to the frame only- Light, amazing shot peened anodized finish, no-bob, great climbing efficiency & traction, great downhill ability. Great geometry.
Weaknesses:
Can not accept a fork bigger than 4" . Price. Thin (at least seems so) top tube (in the middle).
Similar Products Used:
Lots
Bike Setup:
2003 M frame ,AD12 shock, XT drivetrain, hayes mag disc brakes, fox float 100 fork, mavic rims .
Bottom Line:
One of the best rides out there. Best part is - you can spec this bike as an ultra light racer , or as a durable trailbike. The frame is light and efficient for racing use, yet has enough travel needed for trail riding.
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Submitted by
ian holmes
a Weekend Warrior
from France Date Reviewed: July 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Vercor Mountains
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$6000.00
Purchased At:
UK
Strengths:
Not too heavy for a XC all day machine, not stupidly light it's gonna fail. Climbs well, decends well.
Weaknesses:
Too early to really tell. I've certainly not found one yet apart from maybe the price.
Similar Products Used:
Marins, Suprlight, Epic.
Bike Setup:
Full XTR apart from brakes - Hope mini's. Thompson finishing kit with Marathon SL forks.
Bottom Line:
After looking at loads of XC full suspension frames I finally got the list down to 3. Truth, Epic, or Superlight.
In the end the Truth won. Four bar linkage is active on the decent and not too obtrusive on the climbs. Nice stiff back end and superb build quality all at a sensible weight.
I bought the Frame in April and fitted out with the kit mentioned above. Not totally sure of the weight but think its around 26.5lbs.
As soon as I'd had the bike built I threw it in at the deep end and entered an 85k endurance race in the Vercor mountain range in southern France. Since then it's been to the French Alps and back down to Vercor on a number of occasions. Most of my riding is XC backcountry type stuff and for this the bike excels. I'm still making slight adjustments to the rear suspension (forks are now sorted and excellent by the way) as coming from a hardtail I had the rear suspension set too stiff but I've just about got it sorted.
It climbs well and my confidance for flying down rocky decents is growing all the time. It seems the more technical the climbing or decending the more I appreciate the bike. Rocky rutty climbs that would have my hardtail spinning looking for grip are now climbable and with full suspension I'm less beat up and ready for going riding the next day.
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Submitted by
Billy
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney Date Reviewed: July 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Anywhere in the Blue Mountains
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
St Ives Cycles
Strengths:
Quality of ride, Finish, Exclusive.
Weaknesses:
Me & no hydraulic brake hose guides on frame.
Similar Products Used:
Ellsworth ID, Cannondale F800, Giant NRS1.
Bike Setup:
03' TRUTH, FOX FORX & SHOX, XTR Brakes, Shifters & Der. Thompson post & stem. King Headset, Easton Monkeylite XC.
Bottom Line:
With some good advice from a friend who had been there & done that I went in search of the FS bike of my dreams which my good friend would also arrange & build up for me.
The type of ride I was after had to be plush, efficient, fully active, fast and light yet solid for trail riding. I wasn’t interested in any sort of lockout, automatic or other. Good suspension designs don’t need any lockouts.
After riding an Ellsworth ID for a while on my local trail I realised how special these bikes were, hopping of a light XC hard tail & onto a heavy trail/free ride orientated bike and actually preferring the way the ID rode & pedalled was a real eye opener for me.
Finally I decided on the TRUTH, with seat stays from the ID which were disc specific. I've set it up with a rear FOX Vanilla R coil shock & Vanilla RLC fork (also disc specific) The frame was purchased at St Ives Cycles in Sydney (thanks Lincoln) all other components were bought over the internet mostly from Mountain High Cyclery. http://www.mtnhighcyclery.com/indexpage.htm Thanks to Larry who helped my mate organise all the parts & made some good suggestions along the way.
While we are on the subject of names Inner City Cycles here in Sydney took $300 AU from me when I backed out of an order for a new Cannondale after only one day. They wouldn’t even let me put the money towards gear in their shop. The shop owner Ainsl’ (anus) was happy to take the lousy 300 bucks from me & never have me shop there again. Well that certainly isn’t a way to run a business! So beware of dodgy bike shops like those & make sure you read the fine print. Since then, that bike shop has missed out on thousands of dollars worth of sales, bikes & gear in which I either purchased myself or recommended to a many, many relatives & friends………….sucko!
Anyhow back to the TRUTH. Maximum traction is the key to good climbing; I like to have the rear wheel follow the terrain at all times the TRUTH certainly doesn’t need a rear lock out. Just sit and spin smoothly up & out of anything. Even in wet slippery mud/clay, pick the right low gear and snake your way out of it without a fear of sliding down a slippery gulley which is what the rest of my group ride did the other day.
The other must was the frame had to have a proper horst link with the brake floating to help eliminate brake jacking whilst braking & descending. The TRUTH allows the rear suspension to be fully active & independent whilst braking on a steep, rough downhill. The TRUTH BOMBS downhill, just let go the brakes & hang on. If you are in the market for a new FS bike and don’t know what I am talking about, get out and learn about it, it’s too late once you have laid down the cash for a single pivot brake jacking hyped up bobbing machine (see Inner City Cycles they can recommend a good one).
ICT does work; the bike instantly feels responsive to pedalling, just like a hard tail. It may bob slightly if your pedalling technique isn’t perfect but that doesn’t seem to affect overall performance. Your lap times will actually be faster than with a hard tail as I discovered. My last bike was a CAAD 5 Cannondale hard tail which weighed 24lbs the TRUTH weighs less than 27lbs (26.6 actually) and I cannot notice the difference in weight. Because of the fully active rear end you get cat’s claw like traction, the TRUTH actually out climbs the Cannondale hard tail; in fact the TRUTH’s climbing ability really needs to be experienced to be believed.
The TRUTH really does handle single track incredibly well, the bikes geometry and dimensions felt comfortable to me from the first ride, the thing really handles superbly. Again if I can compare it to the Cannondale the Ellsworth has allowed me to clear tight technical sections which the Cannondale really struggled with. Another thing I have noticed is that the TRUTH frame feels incredibly stiff whilst riding, just as stiff as the CAAD 5. Although we all know that it’s the rider not the bike, the TRUTH definitely has made me a better rider.
Sure you can get other FS bikes with Horst Links that do similar things i.e. Intense Tracer, Titus Racer X, Hammerhead, Turner, Specialized and the like, but at the end of the day one look at the shot peened anodized frame with the laser etched Ellsworth graphics & my mind was made up.
If you want to have a look at her (still unfinished when photo taken) go to;
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Biz S
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: June 6, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Tiger Mountain backside
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4300.00
Purchased At:
WrenchScience
Strengths:
Legendary reputation
Weaknesses:
Price
Similar Products Used:
Kona Kula hardtail, Specialized M4 Stumpjumper
Bike Setup:
16" Truth with Romic, full XTR shift/brake pod, Hollowtech cranks, F & R derailleurs, Chris King nothreadset, Thomson elite stem, Easton Monkeylite SL bars, Easton carbon seatpost, Salsa QR seatpost, Mavic Crossmax XL disc wheelset, Avid Mechanical brakes F & R, Time ATAC pedals, Selle Italia Trans AM saddle, Fox 100RLC fork, Panaracer XC pro tires 2.1
Bottom Line:
I just wanted to brag about my setup to you all....all '03 spec'd parts, this rig cost me my left testicle. I'm thinking about lightening things up a bit with higher pedals and saddle, but God knows everything else is good and light already. No compromise on the fork--I'm liking it even though it's a bit of a pig, but RockShox forks are too flexy, and I couldn't get my 'Zocchi Marathon fork on my other bike to feel plush enough. I could go carbon crankset, but I feel more secure on Shimano. So what if it's a ~28lb package? I'll still blow by all you losers 'cuz I lift weights too, and I'm huge! 5 flamin' duck turds all 'round!!!
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Submitted by
shaun murray
a Cross Country Rider
from spokane, wa Date Reviewed: May 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
south hill
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$5000.00
Strengths:
An overall zen-like experience. The most superb all around bike you can buy.
Weaknesses:
There is a creaking noise when the rear suspension is compressed, not the bikes fault. I use an aluminum cable stop where it enters the frame, that is causing some noise when moved.
Similar Products Used:
Giant SE-1, Giant AC Air, Shwinn Homegrown
Bike Setup:
Full 2002 XTR kit, Thompson post, Thompson stem, Psylo Race fork w/ black box, Spinergy yellow SPOX, Monkey lite XC bars
Bottom Line:
A superb bike that will bring all the fun back into riding, whether it is strictly XC or a little bit off downhill. I cant get enough of the bike. look forward to many years with this beauty.
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Submitted by
David
a Cross Country Rider
from Montebello Date Reviewed: May 27, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
123bikes.com
Strengths:
Plush and active suspension, efficient, light, amazing finish and clean good looks.
Weaknesses:
The derallieur hanger, but I haven't had a issue with it yet. The b tension screw looks like it's about to slip. Very expensive.
Thinking of spending more cash to replace SID race with a more appropriate fox talas.
'Life time' warranty is only applicable for the life of that particular make.
Still heavier than tin can hardtails (by about 2lbs).
Similar Products Used:
None. Straight off a hardtail
Bike Setup:
2003 SID race, Bontager valiant rims, dt hugi hubs, kestral carbon bar, weyless carbon cranks, weyless m-8 stem, avid titanium v brakes, kooka brake levers, xt fr der, xtr rear der, xt shifters, use alien aluminum seat post, san marco asided saddle, chris king headset, wellgo ti pedals, xtr cassette, sram pc 99 hollow pin, michellin wildgripper xls tires, panaracer green lite tubes, pork rinds, action tec bb, generic cables, xt skewers, fox float r rear shock. 21-22lbs on a tared bathroom scale (accurate to whole numbers). yes, I'm a weight weenie!
Bottom Line:
Obviously, the first thing I noticed is the supple suspension feel. Sure I felt a little more tired on climbs (coming off a 19-20lb hardtail and have yet to develop a smooth pedal stroke), but I felt more controlled. I didn't feel any outright bob, but just felt a bit more tired after the climb. The descending is so much faster and smoother than before that it's all worth it. I don't race so a smooth rig is more important than a painfully efficient one. All but the biggest ruts at speed are vanished on the descent and even those are mild thuds . It really is like riding a cadillac, except the handling was still sharp. Traction was amazing too on both the front end and rear. Noisy and damaging chain slap is minimal or zero unlike my hardtail.
I obviously can't compare it to other FS frames, but the Truth has exceeded my imaginings of a plush ride. It's not mushy or bouncy, it just soaks up the bumps and actually makes the trails feel flat and firm. It feels like riding a luxury sports sedan with a supple yet controlled suspension, only the road is much rougher in reality. I was going to get a spider, but since it's race oriented and it's design functions arounds chain tension, I feared it might be too harsh. Also, the VPP designs are just too new. I'll probably look into them in the future due to their potential. I'm glad I got the TRuth. I considered the ultraplush tracer, turner designs, and even the enduro, but they were just a bit too heavy. My setup is very light yet still active beyond my expectations and abilities. If you want a time proven light and active FS bike with commendable efficiency, this is probably one the best for now. I think the Truth will hold up untill the VPP designs are refined to give light weight and active susp. Right now the blur is heavy and the spider is more race oriented.
Thanks to Dave at 123bikes. I built it up myself, but Dave gave me a great price and prompt service.
It's a great bike, but expensive so I have to give it only 4 value chilis.
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D Libby
a Cross Country Rider
from San Luis Obispo,Ca Date Reviewed: May 25, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1950.00
Purchased At:
Colorado Cyclist/Foothill Cyclery
Strengths:
Outstanding climber, very nice fit and ride.
Weaknesses:
Replaceable dropout ( Derail. hanger ) does not work well with Shimano 11/32 or 12/34 cassettes.( 9 speed ) Derail. pulley drag on two lowest gears. Problem solved with custom drop out made by Speedgoat. Lowers derail. 4mm also allows full adjustment of B-screw. B-screw was running off the tab of the hanger.
Similar Products Used:
Have riden hardtails for 17 years. The last 13 of them on a Litespeed
Bike Setup:
2003 Sid Team, easton bars, stem and post. King Headset, XTR 03 crank and Front Derail. 02 XTR shifters, brakes and rear derail. XT cassette 11/32. Mavic Crossride ceramic...
Bottom Line:
I held out for a very long time going to a FS bike. I knew the downhill part was about to get a whole lot nicer ( it has ) but I was worried my climbing was going to suffer. I was shocked how well this bike climbs ! Wow ! Technical single track climbs on my hardtail required really keeping your line or else. First off, this thing doesn't require you to keep a line as much, and second, if your trying to keep one, you don't get blown off it. I even like how it climbs on fireroads and rides on the street. ( I usually ride to my local trails.) I have about 20-25 rides in on this bike and I am very happy with the ride quality, both up and down. I spent a bunch of time trying to decide between the Blur and the Truth. Not being able to really test ride either one, I had to roll the dice a bit. I went with the Ellsworth because I like the longer top tube length. Their customer service reputation, etc. Also the Truth has been around for a few years now. The Blur was just to new, I didn't want to be working through the kinks of a first/second year product.( hopefully there aren't any to those Blur owners out there..) There is a slightly negative side to this story.. I ordered the frame and most of the parts from Colorado Cylist. I built the bike myself ( w/exception of the 03 XTR crank ). After tweaking and tweaking, I couldn't get the rear derail. upper pulley to stop rubbing in the last two highest gears. ( the 32 and 34 tooth cogs ) Drove me nuts, I finally through in the towel and took it to ( 2) separate LBS. Neither of which could solve the problem. Called Colorado Cylist and Ellsworth, neither of which were any help. By this time I was getting rapidly pissed ! Despite the great ride, I was damn near ready to return the whole thing and go back to my trusty 8 speed Litespeed. To Colorado Cylist credit, they offered to pay for return shipping, fix the problem, and ship it back, no charge. I thought that was very good of them, considering they didn't build the bike. I opted instead to take the bike to IRA's Bike Shop in Arroyo Grande. Ira, called Ellsworth and found out they don't recommend running a 12/34. So he put a 11/32 on,...still rubbed a tiny bit,..but problem was solved once I bought the aftermarket Speedgoat hanger. My wife runs a 34 on her Truth with no problem with this hanger. My questions is,...how do you make such a great bike, then do such a half as.. job on the hanger. If you go back to Mtn Bike Actions " ask RC" he talks about this exact problem. Without knowing all the politics involed, I'm not sure what to think. Maybe Ellsworths hanger works great with the old Shimano 8 speed or SRAM. ( I would have went with SRAM but I hate grip shift..) Anyway, the bike is great but I wasted a week of my time troubleshooting a problem that should have been remedied by the manufacter or least tell the buyer about the fix if they plan to run Shimano 9 speed.
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Submitted by
CR
a Weekend Warrior
from Denver, CO Date Reviewed: May 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Colorado Trail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
Beyond Bikes
Strengths:
Insane climber, laterally stiff, plush descender, nice workmanship, attention to detail, great paint job, etc....
Weaknesses:
None so far
Similar Products Used:
Coming off a heavier, burlier DBR with more travel. Before that I had a Specialized Stumpjumper hardtail.
Bike Setup:
Fork: Marzocchi MX Comp w/ETA Frame: 2003 Ellsworth Truth Front Derailleur: XT Shifters: XT Rear Derailleur: XT Levers: Avid Speed Dial 7 Cassette: XT Brakes: Avid Mechanical Seatpost: Thompson Elite Head set: Chris King Stem: Thompson Elite Saddle: WTB Speed V Chromo rails Handlebar: RaceFace Air Alloy Low Riser Wheels: Shimano XT Disc with Mavic X317 with DT Competition 14/15g Spokes Crankset: Shimano XT Hollowtech Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1 Bottom Bracket: XT Hollowtech
Bottom Line:
I've ridden a both a five-inch travel bike and a hard tail and I've finally dialed into the right bike for my riding style and local geography. It's a Great trail riding / XC rig.. This bike has made me a better, more efficient, faster trail rider. Especially good climber and great in the rough stuff... I have plenty of room to grow into this bike. Worth the $$$$ !!
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Steven
a Cross Country Rider
from Brownwood, TX, USA Date Reviewed: May 7, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Rocky Hill Ranch
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Speedgoat
Strengths:
Quality, Anodized finish, lifetime warranty
Weaknesses:
Price???
Similar Products Used:
Specialized M4 FSR-XC
Bike Setup:
Sid, AD12, SRAM X.0, Hayes Mag Disc, Crossmax, Easton Carbon bars, Thomson post
Bottom Line:
This bike ROCKS! It is super smooth at speed. No pedal induced bob, unless pounding up a hill while standing. No creaks, squeaks, or sounds from the frame. Very stable and light, but soaks up everything at speed. A little rough when speed is very slow, almost like a hardtail, but as speed increases, ultra smooth. Very efficient climber, never loses traction. About 25 lbs, but rides lighter.
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Submitted by
Mudhen
a Cross Country Rider
from KY Date Reviewed: April 30, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Wilderness Trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
ColoCyclist
Strengths:
The four-bar linkage is proven. No pedal bob, incredible light weight, unsurpassed attention to detail, sealed pivots, lifetime warranty, anodized finish, comfortable geometry, uncompromising strength.
Weaknesses:
Please...
Similar Products Used:
Looked at Santa Cruz Blur, Giant VT-1, Trek Fuel, and Litespeed's softtails.
Bike Setup:
Romic shock / Manitou Black Super Air shock / XT / Thompson / Race Face / Chris King / Avid mechanical discs.
Bottom Line:
The Truth is an incredible, lightweight bike with a proven four-bar linkage suspension. It climbs as well as my hardtail did, but soaks up numerous trail obstacles, bumps, and rocks without needlessly sacrificing energy. The anodized finish keeps the bike looking good. Absolutely no buyer's remorse here. I highly recommend the Truth, particularly with the Romic shock for those Clydesdales among us.
It's for high-quality products like these that we all go to work (well, that and to pay the rent/mortgage). Treat yourself. You deserve it.
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Submitted by
demonic1
a Cross Country Rider
from wisconsin Date Reviewed: April 24, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4900.00
Purchased At:
123bikes.com
Strengths:
climbs like a bugger, stiff as heck, and PLUSH!
Weaknesses:
none yet
Similar Products Used:
Klein Attitude Race hardtail
Bike Setup:
2003 XTR- Avid mech discs w/ flak jackets, Chris King headset & ISOdisc hubs, RaceFace Deus Stem, XY post, & Airlight flat bar. Fox Float 100 RLC fork and Romic rear shock.
Bottom Line:
This is my first & last full suspension bike. I can't imagine owning anything else. Not only that but I still have three years to pay this off. My Klein Attitude was light- but definately not plush. There are other Fs bikes out there but nothing compares to the Truth- no bob, full-on acceleration and very stable handling. I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
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Submitted by
Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from NYC Date Reviewed: April 19, 2003
The bottom line is that Mike over at Beyond Bikes is doing much more than just selling bikes. For the creation that arrived at my door last friday could not have simply been constructed by mortal hands. It is as if my bike was birthed from the mud lined uterus of great mother earth herself! From the moment I first mounted her, I was transformed into a dirt breathing, tree chewing photosynthesizing passenger. Now that the mutation is complete, she is making me do things... bad things....
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Submitted by
Eric
a Cross Country Rider
from NY Date Reviewed: April 17, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Hunters Creek
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1650.00
Strengths:
Climbs better then my hardtail, very light,nice welds, paint looks great really stands out. Life time waranty! It came with a seat post which i thought was cool
Weaknesses:
I dont like the Fox Float R that came with it, seems to be making a funny sounds, and i only ridden it like 3 times, maybe some dirt got in it, i will switching to a Romic coil, as soon as i have some money
Similar Products Used:
Giant,Cannondale
Bike Setup:
Full XT, FSA riser bar, ritchy stem, WTB seat, Thomson Elite seat post, mich. tires. Sid 100 fork (looking for a new fork right now), and mud lots of mud
Bottom Line:
I havent been able to ride it much due to the weather we have in western new york, very wet trails, and riding on wet trails is not a good thing for access issues. But the time i have got on the saddle i have been most pleased, it was worth the money, i would not ride anything but
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Submitted by
Jerker
a Cross Country Rider
from Malmoe Sweden Date Reviewed: April 8, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3900.00
Strengths:
Smmoth, fast, not blobbing, goodlooking, HQ built
Weaknesses:
squeeky sound from linkage (only in rough terrain)
Similar Products Used:
There is no similar product :) (not for me anyway)
Bike Setup:
XT mix, Hope Mini disks, 517 rims, King headset, Thomson/ Profile kit, Romic and Marz AtomRace susp
Bottom Line:
I like my bike wery much, I´m quite heavy (230lbs) but the truth equiped with a Romic is taking that weight without any problem. With the damper correctly tuned the susp is supernice, plush, steady, rigid etc. The combination Ellsworth and Speedgoat is wery nice to. I got valuable info from Steve at Speedgoat (many thanx Steve). Im overall wery satisfied with my purchase (my wife isnt) and with the built quality i think it will be that way for a long time.
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Greg S
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Ca Date Reviewed: April 3, 2003
Favorite Trail:
I love them all!!
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
123bikes.com (Dave)
Strengths:
I have waited six months to put in my two cents.The way I set mine up, it's my perfect trail bike. I don't give a rats ass if it's not 21 lbs, but I need a lighter weight bike that will hold up to some hard riding without killing me on the climbs.
Weaknesses:
NONE!
Similar Products Used:
There is really nothing similar ,but I have tried many other bikes.
Bike Setup:
03 Truth large with Romic coil,Fox Vanilla 125 RLC,03 XTR Cranks,02 XTR der's and shifters,Avid mech's,King hubs on Mavic X3.1,king Headset,Thomson,monkey lights,Conti's,and so on. The bike is 27 lbs and rides like 22.
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is that this bike will hold up to just about anything I toss at it.I was riding the bike with the fork set at 100mm (as recommended), but I felt as if I was going over the bars when I went through the really steep tech stuff.Since I extended the travel I only changed the HT angle by 1 1/2-2 degs and the bike feels the way I like. This will not be for the hardcore XC folks.I am a daily rider who still cleans 90% of what I ride, and pass up many XC riders with 80mm fork set up's.I guess the bottom line is I have my cake and can eat it too.I always am stoked to ride my bike in any type riding I happen to do,if it's epic XC or fast Noble Cyn It works just right.5 Chili's,but I wish there were more.
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Submitted by
Hudson Henry
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, Oregon Date Reviewed: March 24, 2003
Fox Forx Vanilla 100RLC, Romic Rear, Cane Creek Wam Disc Wheels, XTR Drivetrain with Race Face Turbine LP cranks, Hope Mini Discs
Bottom Line:
You can't find a better bike! The quality and attention to detail that Ellsworth puts into every frame is obvious at first sight. It climbs like a champ, decends like a demon, and always feels ultra confident and stable.
You can build it super light like some of the guys below, or build it cushy like me. With all the ultra-plush coil suspension I have, disc brakes, and big mud-machine winter fenders front and rear it still only weighs 27 pounds. Oh, did I mention it is plush? Wow, is it plush.
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Jim Dover
a Racer
from Temecula, CA Date Reviewed: March 20, 2003
Favorite Trail:
San Juan Trail
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Ellsworth
Strengths:
Light weight with superb rear suspension performance. Beauty.
Similar Products Used:
Scwhinn Homegrown Full Suspension (URT)
Bike Setup:
Truth medium with 2003 SID shock, 2003 SID World Cup fork, FSA Carbon Pro crank, Hadley Ti BB, Ritchey WCS 100 mm stem, Ritchey WCS headset, Easton EC90 flat bar, Easton EC70 seatpost, Selle Italia SLR saddle, XT front derailleur, SRAM XO rear derailleur, SRAM XO shifters, Avid Single Digit Ti brakes, Paul's Formula Love brake levers, XTR 12~34 cassette, DuraAce chain, Hugi 240/Revolution/Mavic 517 wheelset, Performance Q-Stix Pro skewers, Maxxis Fly Weight 330 tires, Maxxis Fly Weight tubes, Bebop Deluxe pedals, King Ti water bottle cage, carbon fiber stem spacer (5 mm), Specialized Team Wireless cyclocomputer, generic cables/wires.
Bottom Line:
This is just to add to the review below. With the change in fork and tires, this beauty weighed in at EXACTLY 21 POUNDS yesterday. I'm giving the short travel fork one more try, but not selling the Marzocchi 105 Marathon just yet--it works just too well on this bike, but sure is heavy. Anyway, for all of my fellow 'weight weenies' out there, this is your build list if you want the lightest thing out there. If you went nuts and got the $300 64 gram SLR and a SID RACE you might drop another 1/3#. As for the ride, I've ridden Truths for about a year and a half--love them.
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Jimbo
a Weekend Warrior
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: March 11, 2003
I had heard about these for a while before looking around for best price. The quality of these frames has to be seen to be beleived. Ellsworth constantly makes running changes to make these better, I got the most current model, which is awesome! It feels extremely balanced, with the front and rear suspension seeming to act as one. Pedaling efficiency is extremely good, bett than my Superlight by a long shot, and at least as good (if not better) as alot of the new designs out there. Finally, I can't say enough good things about Scott at Colorado Cyclist, he helped me spec the bike perfectly and was very helpful with all my questions. He rides one and knew exactly what I needed. Not to mention their prices are unbeatable! 5 burnin' horses !
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Justin
a Cross Country Rider
from Bakersfield, Ca USA Date Reviewed: March 3, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
MTbr Clasifieds
Strengths:
Very rigid, light, ICT. This bike climbs great, decends even better. Very smooth ride.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Intense Tracer, Orange Sub 5, Giant Nrs 1, Specialized Epic, Turner XCE, Etc.
Bike Setup:
Manitou black elite forks, Shimano XT drive train, Chris King headset, Answer carbon riser bars, Hope mini disc brakes, Thomson seat post and stem, Etc.
Bottom Line:
This bike rides like no other bike that Iv'e ridden. I can climb anything and everything I want with ease. Going downhill is just another strong point that ads to a long list of strong points on this bike. I weigh 165lbs and I'm 5'10" tall, I ride a medium frame with a 100mm fork. The Manitou black fork is great for this bike because you can swith from 80mm to 100mm on the fly. I would reccomend this bike to anyone who is willing to spend the money on a superior product. The Ellsworth Truth makes anyone who throws a leg over it a better rider from novice to professional.
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Submitted by
bill g
a Racer
from camas, wa Date Reviewed: March 1, 2003
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Bottom Line:
I've been riding an Ellsworth Absolute Truth since the 96-97 season. It is unquestionably my all-time favorite bike. When it came time to purchase a new ride, it was a no brainer as several significant upgrades have been made to the design since my original purchase. The clincher was that ellsorth is willing to do a small limited production run of their old nebula-blue(a blue-purple tie-dye look)finish on a handful of bikes. They did a half dozen or so back in 96-97. I've snagged one and was letting others know that this will be briefly available. Its a rare opportunity to own a killer bike with a very unique and cool look to it. You can contact ellsworth directly or talk to Mike at Beyond Bikes(866-bike-911). If you're interested in seeing what they look like i can post or email a photo. Check it out.
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Jim Dover
a Racer
from Temecula, CA Date Reviewed: February 26, 2003
Steering head angle is a little too steep with an 80 mm fork, so you'll have to use 100 mm to make it handle properly. The bummer is that you really can't use the ultralight SID Carbon and other ultra light forks.
Similar Products Used:
2002 Truth
Bike Setup:
Fox Float R shock, Manitou Skareb fork, FSA Carbon Pro cranks, Hadley BB, FSA 120 stem, Ritchey WCS H/S, Easton EC90 bar, Easton EC70 seatpost, SLR saddle, XT F. Derailleur, SRAM XO shifters and R. Derailleur, Paul's Formula Love Levers, Avid Single Digit Ti brakes, XTR cassette, DuraAce chain, Hugi 240/revolution/Mavic 517 wheelset, Specialized Rockster SL tires, Specialized Ultralight tubes, King Ti cage, BeBop Stainless pedals and Specialized Team wireless cyclometer. Whew!
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is that I should have never sold my 2002 Truth because it was great and this one is almost exactly like it. As I said above, it really does need a 100 mm fork to handle properly in the tight, technical stuff and I've got a Marzocchi Marathon 105 mm on the way. The bike is so light and fast that climbing is a joy and desending is a lot more fun. As for the weight. With the Skareb it weights 21.8# as spec'd above. I expect that the Marathon will take it to 22.2#, but I'm willing to put up with a little more weight for the extra stiffness and handling that the 80 mm Skareb just can't provide.
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Submitted by
Redneck
a Cross Country Rider
from Vancouver, Washington Date Reviewed: February 24, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Ape Canyon & Siouxon
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Plush. Stable rear for a XC FS bike. Light - but strong.
Weaknesses:
Isn't made out of gold (should be for the price!).
Similar Products Used:
2002 Truth, Joker, Marin, FSR.
Bike Setup:
All '03 XTR (Crank/BB,Chain,STI Shifters, hyd. disc brakes,hubs,deraillers,). Thompson stem & seatpost. King headset. '03 Marathon SL fork. Koobi enduro saddle. Mavic UST tubeless wheels w/03 XTR disc hubs & Hutch. Scorpion tires w/Stans No-Tube sealant. Easton Monkey-lite hi-riser XC carbon bar(1.5"). Time ATAC pedals. Romic shock (have a Fox Float RL I am trying out to compare to Romic - Romic weighs 1.5lbs/Fox weighs .5 lbs)
Bottom Line:
I was fortunate enough to be able to try a friends Truth for 3 months. It was built up to 31.5 lbs!! What a TANK. I loved it - even though it was heavy.
I made my decision to buy one, gave him back his Truth and bought one & built my '03 Truth. Mine weighs 27 lbs (with the Fox. 28 pounds with the Romic). Needless to say it rocks! The new XTR STI stuff is perfect & takes no time to get used to. Tubeless with the Stans sealant doesn't leak! Before putting in Stan's they leaked a little. The Stans' adds 130gms.
I highly recommend the Truth. I also tried my friend's Joker (which also pedaled suprisingly well up hill if you know how to pedal smoothly). Tried his Marin & an FSR. The Marin was too heavy for me & the FSR too stiff.
4" of travel and the tunability of the Truth makes it the best choice of full suspension. You make it as light or as heavy - as stiff or as plush as you want. Will satisfy the racer or heavy duty cross country thrasher. I don't do over 4 foot drops & I weigh 185 lbs. It's not 215 pound rider's freeride or downhill machine - but it will keep up with them if built right & ridden right.
Everything they say about the Truth is correct - ride one and find out. Make sure you have it set up by someone who knows what they are doing (as with any bike or you'll hate it).
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Submitted by
Rathbone
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: February 24, 2003
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
North of the Border
Strengths:
USA made (locally in San Diego area), excellent Ellsworth service and warranty.
Weaknesses:
Like the ride with the Cane Creek rear, but like it even better with the Romic coil (heavy)...which one will need, especially if over 190# with aggressive riding.
Similar Products Used:
Cane Creek AD-12
Bike Setup:
XT, Thompson, Mavic, ROMIC coil, Bomber x-fly 100
Bottom Line:
The Truth is a hell of a fun bike. I do not care to race (have nothing to prove), but I still love to ride hard (almost every other day) since I bought the Truth.
Even if you do nothing but cross-country, do seriously consider buying the bike with a Romic coil shock if you ride aggressively at all, put in more than one ride a week, or are over 190#. Ellsworth does have great warranty service, but it is a real bummer to be off the bike for a week or two if a frame part cracks, and it most likely will if you don't error on the side of the Romic.
The Romic is truly heavy, but it is an awesome rear shock for the Truth, and works much better in most situations than the AD-12. The Romic more than makes up for the weight gain since it is more stable, makes climbing much easier (seriously), and I do feel the power transfer to the rear wheel is much better.
Just don't compare the weight of the Romic to an air shock (ouch!), but I feel the Truth was meant for this shock, at least in my case since I weigh 205#. I am enjoying the ride (absolutely flying up as well as down) with the Romic much better, highly recommended!!!
After riding a Truth for two years, I still cannot get in enough rides on it. Get one!
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Taylor Lyne
a Racer
from Chester, Va Date Reviewed: February 4, 2003
Favorite Trail:
richmond
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
online
Strengths:
Climbing,travel, anti-bob
Weaknesses:
If your wt. is over 180lbs you need a coil rear shock.
Similar Products Used:
na
Bike Setup:
kings,Hope,Fox,Romic,Thompson,xo and half pipes.
Bottom Line:
I have raced truths in the expert divison for 2 years. It has definitly helped my racing. I was using a cane creek air shock and with this set up either cracking a frame or swing arm twice a season.Ellsworth has warrantied every prob. I have now switched to the Romic coil. The bike is very adjustable and no cracks yet during the training season. I have notice a differance in lap times. Coil adds about 1-2lbs to weight.Hope to see their ti- spring soon.
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John Holmes
a Cross Country Rider
from La Crosse Wi La Crosse Date Reviewed: January 28, 2003
Favorite Trail:
This is not a trail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1650.00
Purchased At:
123 bikes Big Dave,Big Mike
Strengths:
Rides like dream,smooth,fast,and i fell in love on the first nasty up hill i had to clime.
Weaknesses:
You get what you pay for.
Similar Products Used:
Titus Racer-x,Tracer,Moots ybb.
Bike Setup:
XTR setup,thomson seat post and steam,king tubeless wheelset,Manitou carbon xc bar,Fox RL front shock,king headset.So sweet. 25lbs on the dot
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is,I have owned a Tracer,Titus racer-x Moots ybb.None of these bike out perform the Truth.I flat out dont like the ride of the tracer, felt heavy.The moots vary nice,fast and beautiful.But I need more travel.Titus stiffer ride not as smooth.Buy a Truth and dont wast your time with the rest.One ride and you will have no regret.I know the Truth will out perform all of them.So smooth and digs in when you clime those nasty trails.Keep on spinig and enjoy the ride on a Truth.
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Submitted by
Wilson
a Cross Country Rider
from SD, CA Date Reviewed: January 24, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Rides like a dream. Handling is great and suspension works well in all conditions. Don't feel any need for lockout or anything
Weaknesses:
Expensive(?) You get what you pay for though
Similar Products Used:
Hardtails
Bike Setup:
Wheels, brakes, shifters, all the essentials
Bottom Line:
I was a bit skeptical at first and have been a hardtail devotee (b/c I enjoy climbing) for a while but I have been converted. Frame is a decent weight and the increased functionality more than makes up for any added weight from the shock and a heavier fork. This bike allows me to go faster on EVERYTHING. Climbing steep rutted stuff is much easier b/c rear wheels tracks and descending is a lot more confident and comfortable. It has saved my butt several times now and I continue to be amazed at how the bike handles and responds to terrain. One minor gripe I have is that the top tube is a bit higher than I'm used to and makes positioning brake levers difficult (so that they don't hit the top tube when the bar is twisted around in a crash). Perhaps the ultimate compliment is that I wake up every morning, head downstairs, see the bike, and want to ride.
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Submitted by
JD
a
from SUMMIT CO CO Date Reviewed: January 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
TWO ELKS
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$3300.00
Purchased At:
123BIKES
Strengths:
AMAZING CLIMBER, TURNS WHAT USED TO BE A LABOR OF LOVE INTO SIMPLY BLISS. EQUALLY ADEPT DOWNHILLER. QUICK. NIMBLE. HAS THAT "LETS RIDE' ATTIDUDE.
Weaknesses:
CALL ME IN ABOUT 5 YEARS AND I'LL LET KNOW IF ANYTHING CAME UP.
Similar Products Used:
SC HECKLER
Bike Setup:
ALL XT, FOX 100 FORK (THESE THINGS RULE!),MAVIC MECH. DISKS, CHRIS KING HEAD SET, THOMSON ELITE STEM AND SEATPOST, ANSWER PROTAPER CARBON BAR.
Bottom Line:
I'LL JUST QUOTE MY GOOD FRIEND JAMES WHO ESSENTIALLY TRADED IN HIS MOOTS YBB FOR A TRUTH "I NEVER DREAMED I COULD FALL IN LOVE WITH A FULL SUSPENSION BIKE".
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Submitted by
Iain
a Weekend Warrior
from Witley, England Date Reviewed: January 23, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
Freeborn
Strengths:
Handling, strength, weight, build quality. Climbs like nothing I've ever ridden - just gets better the more power you put in! No bobbing. Quick downhill, soaks up hits, sticks to the line really well for 4" travel, quick on twisty trails. On fire trail XC you can forget you're on a full sus as it feels like a sorted hard tail, but can tackle technical trails with complete confidence and control.
Psylo SL Tullio XT group Hope discs Razor Rock Hubs Thompson post & stem Easton risers Mavic rims & Panaracer rubber
Bottom Line:
It is expensive but the more I ride it, this is becoming irrelevant. It's still a better bike than my ability, but it allows you to improve - my skills develop with every ride and I thinks you would have to be an exceptional rider to reach its limites. I love it and it looks like serious bit of kit in a low key way in black with silver kit.
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Gary
a Cross Country Rider
from Maitland Fla Date Reviewed: January 21, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1995.00
Purchased At:
Universal Cycles
Strengths:
Great handling, climbing abilty. Pedals with efficience like you wouldn't beleive.
Weaknesses:
Expensive, but worth every cent.
Similar Products Used:
Jamis Dakar Sport, Giant NRS 2, Cannondale Jekyll
Bike Setup:
Medium Truth Frame, Marzocchi Atom Race 100, XTR Derailleurs, FSA Carbon Pro Cranks, Magura Marta SL, Mavic 317 with Stan's No Tubes
Bottom Line:
After riding a number of FS bikes, I wonder why I didn't spend the money for a Truth a long time ago. If you ride XC and want the best that your hard earned $$ can but, look nowhere else.
Don't make the mistake of letting your wife ride your Truth! Now I just need to save up enough to buy one for my jealous wife. My daughter is also lobbying hard, but I think that I can hold her off for a year or so. Not so sure about the wife.
WHAT A GREAT RIDE!
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