Weaknesses: Decal availability I guess. Can't find any v brake tab. I've been hunting for it for 9 years!!! Here in the Philippines
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9 years have pass and never had any problems. Until now that I realize it almost run out of suspension oil. Decided to rebuild the fork. Repainted the fork to match its new Surly troll frame. Refill it with oil. Just the standard 15w-10 motor oil. Tried DOT 5 but seems the viscosity is too thin. Not to mention it melts the newly applied paint. :) Also bought an O ring at a local hardware chain store. Total cost of Fork Rebuild $11usd pretty cheap! Highest drop I did was 5 feet. The usual Xc trail hop and jump and a ton of air time on speed bump on the streets. Hoping this fork will last another 9 years. :)
Similar Products Used: Rockshox Judy RST Gila A bunch of suntours
Bike Setup: Xc touring
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petebarchetta
a Cross Country Rider
from wycombe, Bucks, UK
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2009
Strengths: bomb-proof!! puts up with my 13.5 stone frame :) survives jumps and drops, a vast improvement from budget shocks. outstanding adjustability (cant stop tweaking it, in a good way)
Weaknesses: none so far,
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cant reccommend this product enough, for alround use its outstanding, not really designed for the huge stuff, but if your into that get a bigger fork :)
Similar Products Used: chilli works 550 (a heap of .....) blew the seals :(
Bike Setup: baracuda cyber alu frame, fox float triad rear shock, magura hs33 hydraulics, handcrafted brake boosters :P
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Jeff
a Downhiller
from syracuse ny
Date Reviewed: December 14, 2004
Strengths: cheap
Weaknesses: cheap and it shows
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is this fork is crap, by far the worst thing i've ever used for suspension. the only good thing if you want to call it a good thing is that its cheap and easy. Damn thing bottoms out on anything over 3' with a nasty metal to metal sound not meant to be heard. Another problem from this fork is 2 weeks after riding the i noticed the stanchions were loose. i guess marzocchi should stop the outsourcing
Similar Products Used: SR Suntour, GTS, Manitou, & Post Modeme Forks
Bike Setup: Hybrid, DH + XC
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mikko
a Cross Country Rider
from finland
Date Reviewed: September 19, 2004
Strengths: this is for the air 105mm version. stiff, adjustable, price, plush, when set up right hard to bottom ewen with almost zero pressures. really easy to service
Weaknesses: not the best mountings for v-brakes, clearly made for use with disc brakes. could be lighter, although stiffness justifies the weight. internal rebound adjustment is a bit hard to do
Bottom Line:
really good fork for the money, 190 euros as new. a lot better than old sid i had, steers good and has increased my speed on rough stuff. seems like it could handle harder use than xc. i'd recommend these forks for xc and as longer travel versions also for trail bikes.
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Craig
a Cross Country Rider
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2004
Strengths: Great value for money, very plush set of forks, you don't have to worry about your front end, can have complete confidence in them, they won't do anything stupid!
Weaknesses: Heavy
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i think they are the best forks for people on a budget, They are great after a bit of tuning to your riding style. (i mucked around with air pressure with a cable tie around one leg so i could see how much travel you get with different air pressures) I use less air pressure than recomended but don't do very big jumps. I think if i had the money i would try fox forks as well, i hear they are good from people i know.
Similar Products Used: Old judys and other rockshox forks
Bike Setup: Custom bike built by Reoiker Cycles Timaru
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Denis
a Weekend Warrior
from Alameda, CA
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2004
Strengths: zero maintenance except for oil changes once or twice a year. no leak, no break down, no hassles. very plush, was tracking extremely well until the pilot bushings started to wear but after 2 years, what do you expect, and even then the performance is better than most of the forks around
Weaknesses: weight and the fact that rebuilding the fork is an expensive proposition ( about $100)
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I have ridden steep downhills at over 40 mph because this fork delivers, and aggressive XC has not undermined its performance a bit in 2 years except for normal wear. It seems like this fork could take extreme abuse and still hold up just fine. very well designed and very high performance /price ratio
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Israel Magalit
a Weekend Warrior
from Quezon City
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2004
Strengths: - stiff - strong - smooth - affordable - great looks [I have the red]
Weaknesses: - heavy - rebound adjustment is internal - required break-in period - not getting full travel [see the bottom line] - slurping/sucking sound when hitting bumps at speed [could be a strength ;)]
Bottom Line:
Like many reviews I've read on Marzocchi forks, the stock oil levels in my fork are probably too high, preventing full travel [only getting 63mm out of 100m]. I haven't had the time or the mechanical inclination to mess with it, so I'm suffering for now.
All in all, this fork has mid-level performance at an entry-level price.
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J. Brouwers
a Weekend Warrior
from Wouw, Holland
Date Reviewed: May 30, 2004
Strengths: - stiff - adjustable to any riders weight - no problems with an 8" rotor - strong - durable - reliable - looks
Weaknesses: - INTERNAL rebound adjustment - open oil bath (hard to find perfect oil setup) - frequent harsh bottom outs when set up to 25% sag, almost no sag when set up to a single bottom out per ride - small bump sensitivity
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most of the weaknesses are not that bad considedering the price
Submitted by
Misa Polan
a Cross Country Rider
from Czech Republic
Date Reviewed: May 4, 2004
Strengths: Quality, smoothness, durability, easy setup, what else??? It's too much to write
Weaknesses: I don know why, but the paint peels off very easily... The old Judy TT didn't act like that
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It's a huge leap from the Judy TT. It's my first real forks, so I'll see, how it really works. But it's cool... I set it to use the full travel, when I do 1 meter drop and I can't say a bad word about it...
Bike Setup: Trek 4500, Alivio/Deore, matrix rims, promax V brakes
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Rocky
a Weekend Warrior
from Alabang, Philippines
Date Reviewed: January 19, 2004
Strengths: Marzocchi simplicity, smooth travel (i have the 105mm coil/oil), good looks, can be used for agressive XC/Trail riding.
Weaknesses: Internal rebound, hard to climb as the fork sucks the power from every stoke (no lock-out), but cn be easily cured by smooth spinning.
Bottom Line:
For the price this fork hard to beat! i chose the coil version as i dont really trust any air fork, with coil versions its so easy to maintain. The fork is so smooth throughout its travel. if you do some agressive trail riding and is consious about the weight this fork is for you. from my experience 4ft drops to flat is its limit, if you do higher drops get a 5in fork or a tripple it will last you longer. I also like big hucks but i leave it to my 03 MONSTER T mated to a 03 yeti ASX.
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Francis
a Weekend Warrior
from Wellington, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: December 26, 2003
Strengths: Cheap, looks cool, adjustable, hydro hose clip on caniti boss is slick
Weaknesses: Does loose a little air, but don't all air forks?
Won't comment on performance until I open it up and change oil level, oil weight, rebound, etc.
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Ah no 85mm version? How come I have one?
This reveiw is for the air version, some aspects will apply to coil version.
Pretty good fork for the money and looks cool. I have the 85mm(yes I've measured it) air version. I want to open it up and fiddle with the oil levels, oil weight, rebound damping but I don't have a shock pump to pump it up again so I haven't gotten all the performance out of it that is possible.
Being an air fork, it's very adjustable. If you want to do big hucks, run a high (within recommendations) oil level and it will ramp up for bottomless travel. If you want to do XC, take a little oil out and it will have a more linear spring rate. Adjust air pressure to your wieght, change oil weights and internal damping screw to change rebound. Your local bike shop should be able to do this for you (for a fee) if you aren't confident with opening up your fork.
Seems pretty good so far and going by other people's posts, when I adjust it, it should be really good.
PS: Does anyone know how to convert the 85mm air version to 105mm? Also, are air MX Comps able to be converted to coils?
Bike Setup: GT Avalanche 0.0 Disc - Alu Hardtail with Hayes, Deore/XT and stuff
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Jarno
from Netherlands
Date Reviewed: November 9, 2003
Strengths: I have the air model with 105mm of travel. Really, really smooth - handles both small vibrations and heavy hits. Gives you excellent control when going downhill and in turns without feeling "squishy". I usually ride in the city and this fork makes it sooooo much more comfortable. I hardly even notice a bump when riding off a curb. When the road is busted up from construction work I hardly even slow down, much less get off the bike. Why bother? ;-) A great time saver!
Weaknesses: Not a good fork for climbing, absorbs too much of your pedaling power. Once I hit a bump while climbing just as the fork was rebounding from a pedaling stroke - nearly flipped the whole bike over backwards...
Bottom Line:
If you want to know what a REAL suspension fork can do for your bike, this is the one to try it with. Excellent performance for a price that doesn't have your wallet groaning. The only thing lacking on this fork is a lockout, so I subtracted one point for that. Otherwise there's no other fork that offers so much value for money.
Similar Products Used: several RST forks - all junk... Rock Shox Judy
Bike Setup: Kyoso K7000 alu frame, full LX, Vuelta Airline wheels
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Submitted by
jake
a Downhiller
from shropshire uk
Date Reviewed: November 9, 2003
Strengths: Its anything u want it to be. Buttery smooth once bedded in properly, light, easy to adjust (air), also u can pump it up to 50psi and it can take large drops. Also strong, this is the part of my bike I am least worried about breaking.
Weaknesses: Dunno, um...no ETA, only 105mm travel.
Bottom Line:
dunno what that guy below was on about with it not taking 1m+ jumps??? did a 5m+ jump on it and landed fully nose-landing, it took it fine. also did an 8ft drop yesterday on it and its seriously ok...if u cant do more than 5ft drops on it then you're crap. i love it how i can do a 30k epic ride and then come back, pump it up and do a huck with no bother. buy this fork if u r a smooth rider on a low budget. its basically a really good xc fork, but also can take the hits if thats ur thing. its worth twice the asking price
Submitted by
Paulbaguio
a Cross Country Rider
from Baguio City
Date Reviewed: October 26, 2003
Strengths: Plushy and nice travel especially if you know the right air combination you will load. You can vary the type of travel according to the air loading you put into the dual air-tight chambers. Very sturyd fork design and movements. Built not only for Cross Country, but for Aggressive Cross Country and competion use.
Weaknesses: I'm using the non-ETA type so The only thing the is really weak for all air type is the locking during uphill climb. Its really hard to conquer a hill is the fork is so plushy. The main remedy is to pump air back, which in return makes me have to carry the fork's heavy air pump (It needs another separate high pressure air pump other than the one utilized for tire tubes). the air type absorbs and vibration from the ground and dampens it throughout the system.
Bottom Line:
Value for your buck. The 2003 MX Comp model has an advantage over its first version because it is specially designed for Aggressive Cross Country. But not necessarily big jumps. probably not so 1 meter jumps, it can resist (If you want some 3 meters jump you need to get those Bombers designed for DH and FR). For deep mini craters, the fork absorbs and does not bounce you back unlike the spring/coil types.
Overall, it has not failed on me (yet), loose rocks, hard pack, dirt and mud, ruts and even gutters... the technique is utilizing the right air load for the weight you have and the ride you will ride.