Submitted by
Adam Turner
a Cross Country Rider
from Abergavenny, South Wales, UK
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2006
Strengths: Extremely plush ride, low rebound, very forgiving fork, awesome matte black look
Weaknesses: I guess if I HAD to find a weakness, it would be a lack of a lockout feature, but as i'm an XC rider it doesn't make any difference to me really.
Bottom Line:
Awesome fork for the price, you need not buy or even consider any other fork for XC. Fox has converted me from air to springs with this fork.
Strengths: Plush ride, Low rebound, Sleek black look, pure disc.
Weaknesses: None, except for the price for some.
Bottom Line:
What an unbelieveable fork! I've waited to do my review to see if anything has failed and no problems at all. I love the oversized stanchions and the pure disc look. After carefully considering the other forks, this one suits my needs perfectly. Of course in-town riding is severe overkill but trails is where the fork belongs. No slop or excessive rebound. All the seals are holding very well. Fox has made a believer out of me. The only downside is the price for those who can not afford the fork. If you can and are considering them, I'd highly recommend you take the Vanilla line for a spin.
Similar Products Used: Manitou Black Elite, Manitou Skareb Super, Fox Float 100R, RockShox Sid World Cup
Bike Setup: 00' S-Works FSR, XT drivetrain, RF Turbine, oversized Avid 203 discs, King headset, Easton bar and stem, Thompson post.
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Submitted by
Simon
a Cross Country Rider
from Byron Bay, NSW, Australia
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2005
Strengths: Plush 125mm of travel. Super Stiff fork with 32mm stanchions.
Weaknesses: Lack of Lockout feature.
Bottom Line:
I was lucky enough to pay $300 AUD (also switching my OEM manitou Axel's 100mm) and buy these of my mate/riding buddy/bike mech James. It's made my bike and myself "all-mountain" rather than just plain XC (although I still love that). The preload and rebound are extrememly effective, in addition the 3 springs (soft, medium, hard) allow further adjustments w/o the cost. I run mine with the medium spring and a 10 weight oil. It's just a stiff yet beautifully plush ride. My only complaint is that it doesn't have Lockout (I know, there's the RL and RLC models)... but it still performs exceptionally well. It's survived 3" jumps/drops... and is just makes my bike so much more sweeter to ride.
Similar Products Used: Manitou Axel, Marzochhi EXR Air Pro.
Bike Setup: 2005 Avanti Barracuda
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Simon
a Cross Country Rider
from Byron Bay, NSW, Australia
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2005
Strengths: Plush 125mm of travel. Super Stiff fork with 32mm stanchions.
Weaknesses: Lack of Lockout feature.
Bottom Line:
I was lucky enough to pay $300 AUD (also switching my OEM manitou Axel's 100mm) and buy these of my mate/riding buddy/bike mech James. It's made my bike and myself "all-mountain" rather than just plain XC (although I still love that). The preload and rebound are extrememly effective, in addition the 3 springs (soft, medium, hard) allow further adjustments w/o the cost. I run mine with the medium spring and a 10 weight oil. It's just a stiff yet beautifully plush ride. My only complaint is that it doesn't have Lockout (I know, there's the RL and RLC models)... but it still performs exceptionally well. It's survived 3" jumps/drops... and is just makes my bike so much more sweeter to ride.
Similar Products Used: Manitou Axel, Marzochhi EXR Air Pro.
Bike Setup: 2005 Avanti Barracuda
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Submitted by
Alex Kelly
a Cross Country Rider
from Lawrence, Ks
Date Reviewed: December 17, 2004
Strengths: Everything
Weaknesses: Factory springs not stiff enough
Bottom Line:
Best fork ever, would totally recomend this to everyone except the extreme downhillers. without a doubt the most plush thing in the history of time, only takes about a week of riding to break it in, after that you'll realize why everyone likes them. The only downside of the fork is that the factory springs are a litte wimpy. i weigh about 160 and it bottoms out on a 5ft drop. other than that it is just about perfect. At just over 4 lbs it makes a pretty good cross country fork but if your gonna buy this it is your civil duty to take it off at least a couple of drops. one last note, the rebound is really adjustable, it goes from lightning fast rebound to...well...almost zero.
Submitted by
Ivan Mishev
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2004
Strengths: Super Plush and is lite. The Adjusts are great u can adjust for xc, hucks, dj and any thing else. Awsome desigh and graphics. Super stiff stantions and lowers witch make it super stiff even without the trough axle. Andjust the fact that its Fox
Weaknesses: None except the price but t dosnt really matter cause its just such a good fork that you ride it for 2 days and then u totaly forget
Bottom Line:
AWSOME FORK PERIOD. Its amazing and i recomened it to any one who want to mountain bike with the plushest fork around. amazing performance for any type of riding. Really good for free ride dj xc and good for downhill but what do u excpect its not a dual crown. Really strong. I dont know what else to say its just such and anazingly awsome fork. All of my friend were thinking i was crazy to spend so much for a fork because it was like 2 times as expensive as there whole bike but they all took one ride around the street going of curds and bouncing around and just that made them relize y i spent so much. Dont get my wrong though its not all that expensive just that expensive for me cause im only 14 but for u older guys with jobs its not to much. Best and most plush fork around is all i can say. FOX RACING SHOX RULES
Similar Products Used: Rock Shock Judy C. Dosnt compare at all
Bike Setup: Norco 4x4
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Submitted by
David
a Cross Country Rider
from Vancouver, BC, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 21, 2004
Strengths: 1, Beefy and burly legs which translates to a very stiff fork! 2, CNC precision quality manufactured knobs which are easy to turn. 3, Rebound control very well setup for a wide variety of terrain from stutter bumps to stair riding and occassional big hits. 4, Improves steering precision and handling without effecting frame geometry so much. 5, FULL advertised travel -- no 50% or even 30% of claimed advertised travel.
Weaknesses: Pricy if not bought on sale. You get what you paid for I suppose..
Bottom Line:
I was never happy with my GT Idrive bike when I first got it. It never lived up to its fame as being a point and shot bike. The downhill is great on the bike, but riding tight switch backs and negotiating rocky technical descents were another story. When I replaced the rear shock with the Cane Creek, it added 50% to the fun. Then when the front stock Judy went dead this year, I decided to replace it with something burly like my old Marzocchi Z3 lite that I had on my old hardtail. When on Cambria site to shop for a Marz Comp ETA when I hit the wrong button! It took me to their clearance site where they had this fork on sale for a bit cheaper! Bought it in a heart beat, came and installed it. Took it out for a spin on the same trails I do with the Judy and oh my GAWD, this is one BLOODY awesome fork. Not only it improves steering but 100%, fast tight switchbacks were no longer a noddly affair anymore. This is also one stiff fork where there is little to any detectable deflection from hitting rocks and roots. And the rebound control is so well designed, so much so that riding down stairs now made me more confident and more aggressive, that I am thinking of adding the front disc, which I would never do with my stock Judy. Last but not least, I am ACTUALLY getting the travel that I paid for. Not so with the Rock S**T! This is one awesome XC fork for the money and it is a great keeper!
Similar Products Used: Rockshox Quadra 21R, Marzocchi z3 lite (65mm travel), Judy 100 Hydracoil
Bike Setup: GT iDrive with Fox Forx 100R (100 mm travel; not 125) with a Cane Creek Cloud 9 at the rear. Stock cranks and Vbrakes only.
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Submitted by
Colin
a Weekend Warrior
from UK
Date Reviewed: July 9, 2004
Strengths: Feels solid & well made*. Reliable. Good over a variety of trail obstacles. Adjustments make a difference. Reasonable price. Good looks.
Weaknesses: None really.... But its a bit of a pain having to remove the wiper seal(s) each month to lub the foam ring, particularly the LHS bushing (the seal flange steadily gets deformed/damaged & the paint begins to chip away with repeted prising). Worth noting that on my set, the LHS top bushing has worn away the anodising in a localised patch. You can only see this when you strip it down. Its be well lubed & kept clean so I think there's been a manufacturing defect that's taken a long time manifesting itself.... Forks out of warranty now but I'll see what they say!
Bottom Line:
These have been very good forks, & I'm only disappointed that they have developed a major fault after 2 years (Re: Product Weakness). On the trail they do everything you could want & than some. They’re easy to set up, and have totally reliable out on the trail. Even though I've experienced a potentially costly problem. I really can't fault then technically. Over the long term I'd like to recommend them, unfortunately I can’t.
I love this fork. Yesterday I went riding of a buddy of mine and we traded bikes for a while, I was blown away how much nicer the Vanilla was compared to his pilot. It was like night and day! He didn't want to give me my bike back :) He's off to buy one as well. It may not be fair to compare the pilot to the vanilla I realize but that doesn't stop the fact that this an amazing fork for a great price. Changing the spring and travel was easy and I like that fact that I can still use the same fork when I get a new FS frame.
I can't attest for the durability of this fork since I haven't had it long enough, but I will say it's taken some pretty hard hits already and hasn't flinched.
Similar Products Used: Rock Shock Pilot, older manitou's
Bike Setup: Chromo hardtail, vanilla r, sram x.9 drivetrain, avid brakes, etc.
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Submitted by
G Bramling
a Cross Country Rider
from La Honda
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2004
Strengths: Smooth through entire range, and it *uses* the entire range of motion.
Weaknesses: A little seepage at top seal on left side.
Bottom Line:
Maybe it's normal now to have a fork that uses its entire range of motion, but it's new to me. Y'know: a 3" fork that moves maybe 1.5", or a 5" fork that uses maybe 3". But this fork can use the full range of motion (and doesn't hurt much when it bottoms).
Oh yeah, it's way smooth and useful, too. The damping works. The adjustments make useful differences.
I'm posting cuz I wanted to see if anyone had been having problems with blown seals. I'm thinking the seepage I'm seeing is just that (seepage), and not the sign of impending disaster. Hoping.
Similar Products Used: shorter throw forks, and no suspension forks
Bike Setup: Heckler, 5th coil, 200lbs rider.
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Submitted by
DB Coupe
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2004
Strengths: Super plush, stiffness even at 5" travel, no stiction
Weaknesses: None so far
Bottom Line:
This is a sweet upgrade for any all mountain type of riding. It's not the lightest but neither is my bike. I've already tried things I've never tried before. The travel is so smooth. The fork tracks straighter than any other 5" for I've tried. It has less stiction than the stock Marz. MX Comp that came oem on the bike.
Similar Products Used: Mostly Rockshock but never again!
Bike Setup: '03 Spec. Enduro, Fox Vanilla 5"
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Submitted by
Wyatt Waro
a Weekend Warrior
from Kailua, Hawaii
Date Reviewed: March 18, 2004
Strengths: Very stiff, Quality travel, excellent bump sensitivity and big hit capability, all precision machined aluminum construction, Rebound and preload settings work very well, Beautiful finish.
Weaknesses: Small leak at the bottom nut on the rebound side of the fork. Can't stop it for some reason. Extremely difficult to fill oil on the rebound side of the fork -probably have to take the rebound damper knob off in order to make it easier -too much hassle.
Bottom Line:
Awesome fork! I really would recommend it to anyone especially if you can get a good deal on it. I've been on this thing for almost 2yrs. and I'm still impressed w/ it. The travel is just amazing you get excellent small bump sensitivity when going fast or slow. Big hits and drops feel great w/ this fork. Just make sure you get the right spring for your weight. Do not change the oil wt. in this fork. It has to have 7wt. oil to work correctly. Just get the right spring and everything will be perfect. There's some minor annoyances but they are really overshadowed by its top-notch performance. If you get a deal on this fork (and they're out there) I must give this product 5 chillis all around! This fork inspires FREERIDE confidence!
Similar Products Used: Rock Shox Jet, Manitou SXR, Manitou X-Vert, Marzocchi Z1, Z3, Z5
Bike Setup: Trek Bruiser 1 w/ Fox 125 w/ heaviest spring (yellow), Avid Mechs 8 & 7 in., FSA DH Pig & BB, RF Prodigys, Alex rims, WTB 2.5 Weirwolf, IRC Kujo 2.25
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Submitted by
Brow_teeth
a Cross Country Rider
from Morro Bay CA
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2004
Strengths: Drives great very stiff and rebound works on every click
Weaknesses: None really unless the drop off don't last, what I see so far looks like this fork is a deal! Started off a bit sticky but really smoothed out after a few hard rides
Bottom Line:
Takes a while to break in like 120 hard miles but then its so smooth and wow so easy to service, hard to fault anything that outperforms and its light for a oil over coil. Running a solid front axle on a super wide 36 hole 3x rim and this fork is like having power stearing mated with a king! At 210 pounds my life is reborn and I didn't have to give up beer! Best bang for $ I spent in the last year.
Weaknesses: Not burly enough for real big drops and too heavy for competitive xc racing. This isn't really true though, because the fork can take much more abuse than most can give and is only too light for guys who are too big of sissies to pedal uphill with an extra half pound on their bike.
Bottom Line:
I haven't had this fork for too long, but it is better than anything I've ever tried before.The action is sooo smooth...I get excited just thinking about riding it. For what it's worth, this is probably the best single crown fork on the market, unless you race world cup xc. Buy a dual crown if your into real nuts downhill and big drops. Don't get me wrong though, this is a SOLID fork. I read one review where a pro rider had it on his hard tail freeride bike for six months with absolutely no problems after SERIOUS abuse, much more than I could dish out. Don't get me wrong though, I still love doing things with my bike that normal people would find questionable. It's just that I limit my drops at around seven or eight feet and take a more surgical approach to abusive technical sections. That will all change once I get my new frame (either a new heckler or chaparral, 5 or 6 inches of travel, respectively), because with this new Vanilla I can tell that only my 3.5 " travel rocky mountain is holding me back. I'll post another review if anything goes wrong, otherwise it's basically perfect.
Similar Products Used: nothing compares. My roommate has a Marzocchi Dirt Jumper 1 that could take more abuse, but feels like garbage compared to my vanilla