If you are a cross country rider and occasional racer who doesn't want a lot of weight in order to have the benefits of a linkage design, this is it. The O2 offers 3.1" of wheel travel with the super light Fox Air Float R-C keeping the suspension stiction free and adjustable. We use custom double-butted tubing on the top and down tubes, and custom drawn seat tube and stays for maximum rigidity and low weight. The 02 is very light, yet it offers enough travel to satisfy most riders. It will make the epic days and long climbs less painful and the 02 has been a hit with the high mileage addicts. By design it leans toward the Stinger side of the family, giving a crisp responsive ride. Grease fittings, seals, replaceable d-hanger & multi brake options are standard.
Strengths: Suspension design, refinement, quality and light weight
Weaknesses: Ummmm
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My first serious foray into MTB was when I bought a "screaming deal" from an internet supplier and got the I-Drive. Immediately upgraded everything and still wasn't happy with the "feel". It had a plush ride but felt slow and heavy. (34lbs) Looked at a lot of reviews/tests and set my sight on an XCE but they were REALLY hard to get at the time. So I ordered an O2 and added the XCE rocker for 4" of travel. The frame arrived in Feb, did I mention I live in Maine, and I only had the snowmobile trails to ride. But 2 hour rides at 20 degrees on varying snow conditions has given me a "feel" of the XC abilities of the Turner. Wow, what a difference in efficiency. I can actually feel the acceleration of my pedal stroke. Last weekend I cleaned an incline I had never been able to do on the I-Drive. This on packed snow vs packed sand in the summer. (Nokian studded tires)This bike can climb! I have no experience yet on the wet, rocky, rooty stuff, (c'mon summer}. The bike feels fast and I just like lookin' at it. At 56, I'm appreciating the finer things.
Similar Products Used: GT I-Drive, Diamondback hardtail
Bike Setup: Monkeylite, Duez, Mavic 317, Pro X (Nokian studded for snow), Stan's Notubes, Laser 5,Cane Creek AD-12, XTR, Hayes and ODI
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Ed Yorktown
a Racer
from NY
Date Reviewed: February 28, 2003
Weaknesses: Dudes, you need to stop and check yourselves. Go and order a Ferrari, or a Lamborghini, or maybe a Bentley. See how long you wait for delivery.
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Jim Lester
a Cross Country Rider
from Phoenix
Date Reviewed: January 17, 2003
Strengths: Super Pedal Efficient climber. The best craftsmanship in the business. Feels like it has more than 3 inches of travel.
Weaknesses: Had to wait for the paint that i wanted
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This Bike is the BOMB!!!! I LOVE IT... I used to race XC back in the day, but now that I'm getting on in years I wanted a bike that could still climb well but give me some comfort. My Fisher was too harsh and the hardtails were race bikes. I talked to the guys at Turner and they were super helpful. The rear end is stiction free and the bike feels as though it has 5 inches of smooth travel. I did have to wait for the custom color but only for 2 weeks and then it was exactly what I envisioned. I have to give thanks to the gentleman at BeyondBikes.com, they knew exactly how to build up a light trail bike and were quick to do so. I was able to watch the whole bike go together on the BeyondBikes.com shop cam, this gave me a sense of trust being able to watch my bike go together and then boxed or as they call it a "MUMMY RAP JOB". Get this bike if you want a lite XC Racer or a great trail bike.. OOOHHH by the way, my bike weighs 23.5 LBS in the 18"...
Bike Setup: Mostly XTR with a RockShox SID Carbon on the front. Custom Wheels.
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William Gerst
from La Grande OR.
Date Reviewed: October 2, 2002
Strengths: No flex no bob rear suspension. Just the right amount of travel for xc riding. No noise bushings with grease fittings. Nice fit and finish.
Weaknesses: Production is on the slow side (your order will be late)
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This is a great bike for xc riding. It can handle most anything you put in front of it. The suspension is smooth and the rear has no flex. It has very little pedal feedback and climbes well. Its strengh is technical singletrack and rough climbs.
Buy it from Mark at Cyclesport (541-962-7441) He can make things happen a Turner.
Similar Products Used: Fisher sugar, Schwinn homegrown , Proflex, and many more.
Bike Setup: Avid brakes,Xtr drivetrain, Duke race fork, eggbeaters, Crossmax wheels.(only the best should go on a Turner)
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Travis
a Weekend Warrior
from Groton, CT
Date Reviewed: September 14, 2002
Strengths: Full suspension, replaceable dropouts, finish looks awesome
Weaknesses: none so far
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I test rode every full suspension bike I could find over the last year, they all had one problem or another as far as I was concerned. I went to Outlaw Bikes in Danbury, Ct to look check out what they had, and Rich convinced me to take a chance on the O2. The frame was a lot cheaper than an Ellsworth, and if I didn't like the bike after a week, they would buy it back, how could I pass that up! Anyway, I'm so happy so far, I even e-mailed Turner with a question, and got an answer back the next day.
Similar Products Used: I tried every full suspension bike I could find over the last year.
Bike Setup: Turner O2, Hope mini brakes, kris King, Race Face, Marzocchi Marathon S
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rob trageser
a Cross Country Rider
from san jose ca
Date Reviewed: September 3, 2002
Strengths: Excelent quality,design,performance,Unbelievably great customer service.Theyre ads are absolutly true!!!
Weaknesses: You pay for what you get.I should have saved up for one of these 5 years ago.
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For an all around trail bike you cant beat this bike!!!All you have to do is put down the power,concentrate on where you want to go and the bike does the rest.Practically no body english required to make the tires stick except in extreme technical situations.The combonation of the Turner frame,a Marzocchi coil fork and the Hopey damper make the ultimate bike.This is a bike you have to replace for many years.I could go on and on and not scratch the surface about what a great bike this is.
Favorite Trail: anything less than3 feet wide and or rocky and rooty
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At: sun bicycles,milpitas,ca
Similar Products Used: Ive ridden a Santa Cruz Tazmon since '97.Tested EllsworthTruth,Intense Tracer,Santa Cruz SL
Bike Setup: Turner put on the 4inch travel XCE rocker for me, I promised not to do any big drops.Marz Atom Race 100,race face,Chris King,XT,XTR and some custom machined goodies.Also a Hopey steering damper.Another item that will revolutionize your ridig.
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Ben
a Cross Country Rider
from boulder Colorado
Date Reviewed: September 2, 2002
Strengths: This is my second Turner, my old Stinger gave up the ghost, and I got a $600 trade in towards the O2. The O2 out-performs the Stinger in several noticable areas. Climbing is better as the rear end is always hooked up, the tire stays glued to the ground in a very predicatable way. There is no flop (tendency to dive into the corner) on tight switchbacks. The predicability of the bike is impressive, you always know exactly what it will do in any situation. The four-bar set up stays active all the time, yet there is no discernable pedal induced feedback. Decending is a gas, and the feeling of the front and rear (Fox RLC in the front) working together perfectly inspires confidence. Dave Turner has the geometry spot-on for Colrado riding with lots of climbing and fast descents. Workmanship is perfect, and the simplicity of the frame and graphics is refreshing. As noted inprevious reviews, the customer service is very good. Guy responded to all my questions, gave advice on set-up, and was able to really descibe how the bike would feel given my weight and riding conditions. This is the perfect all-around trail bike.
Weaknesses: From ordering to delivery took 3 weeks. This is far better than the purchase of my first Turner which took 3 months. I believe they have increased production volume, and when I called they had my size in stock, but the parts were not assembled.
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I am a Turner customer for life. Their service, even after I broke a 3 year old frame, is phenomenal. The design has been perfected, and the experience of Dave and his employees really shows in the way everything comes together when you ride.
Similar Products Used: Turner Stinger Merlin MTB Santa Cruz Superlight (another great bike)
Bike Setup: Full XTR, wheels by SpeedDreams (no truing after 3 years), Fox 80mm RLC (love it)
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Ed
a Racer
from Yorktown Heights, NY USA
Date Reviewed: August 27, 2002
Strengths: This is a follow up review. I actually own a 2001 O2 (check my original review back there), and I'm back to rave a little. I've put many miles and many hard CT/NJ/NY series and other races on my Turner, and it has never let me down. In fact, I just won the 24 hours of Allamuchy 4 man relay elite category race (yes, I'm bragging) in the pouring rain and slop with a hard hose-down after each lap, and everything is working flawlessly. I just this very moment walked in from washing, rubbing, and re-lubing stuff in the aftermath of Allamuchy and in doing so, I took the rear shock off (see below for details). I took the opportunity to swing the rear through it's full range of motion just to feel the travel and I was astounded by both the silkiness and at the same time the absolute tightness of the linkage - I almost can't explain what it felt like - there was absolutely zero lateral play and running it through it's natural travel felt something like when you grab some mechanical object fresh off the shelf at the store and start playing with it a little and you go through several until you find the one that feels the "least messed with" so you can buy it and feel like it is really fresh and new and unused - that's what the 1.5 year old pivots and bearings felt like - the object you choose to buy because it's the best of the bunch. It was unbelieveable. They're brand spanking new, and I've beat the S--- out of them. The only thing I've done is shoot them with Prep-M occasionally. Sealed bearings and grease ports are mountain biker's best friends. I also upgraded the rear shock to the Cloud Nine - The Float RC began to leak air and I sent it in for warranty and got the Cloud Nine as an interim replacement and kept it because it is the real deal. It is noticably more plush on the smaller stuff than the Fox.
Weaknesses: Performance-wise, there is none. Customer service wise, there is none. The rear derailleur hanger is made of an extremely soft aluminum (better to preserve your beloved frame), so buy plenty of them when you order your bike. I've trashed a couple just smacking the rear of the bike on logs and things while hoofing it with the bike over my shoulder. There's one pivot (probably called the main pivot, just above the BB) that I can't get to with my grease gun unless I disconnect the rear shock and release the rear brake and derailleur cables. Fortunately shooting grease in is an infrequent maintainance task.
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The bike continues to be state-of-the-art, despite the "revolutionary" new rear suspension designs coming out. The Horst Link configuration continues to be widely accepted as THE rear suspension design. And check this out: A buddy of mine has a Seven Duo less than a year old and I can hear his every pedal stroke when we ride. Weak pivot and bearing workmanship seem to be major flaws in some of the high-end frames that I've come into contact with. Not only has Dave gotten the geometry and linkage perfect, but he has taken the time (as Norm Abram would say) to integrate excellent details, like the great sealed bearings and grease ports, which make the bike truly care-free. Oh, get this - We have a local race promoter who runs a Saturday night MTB TT every August (the most awesome MTB race you will do if you can get there). This year, I was lined up at the start behind these two other racers and guess what they were riding? You got it - Turners. It was incredible. The guy in front of me had an O2 and the guy in front of him had an XCE, and all three bikes were the burnished aluminum. I wish I had a picture.
Similar Products Used: Truth, Bow-Ti, Duo, Superlight, Razorback
Bike Setup: Cane Creek Cloud Nine rear shock, Manitou Mars Elite, Crossmax regular with Stan's Tubeless, Salsa skewers, XT crank/BB, XTR cassette and rear derailleur, XT front derailleur, Frog pedals, Easton carbon post and flat bar, XTR shifter/brake lever pods, IWONUM stubby bar ends, 12 inch radius white reflector in the front spokes, 12 inch radius red reflector in the rear spokes.
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Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from Orange County CA
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2002
Strengths: Quality craftmanship and Turners excellent customer service. The ride the ride the ride.
Weaknesses: None
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This is my second Turner and I have yet to find any faults. It's hard to when you can't even wipe the grin you get on your face whenever you even see the bike just sitting there. This bike is not as plush like my XCE but it takes the edge off all but the biggest hits. Climbing is great, no lateral flex and I weigh 200lbs @ 6'2". Fast or slow, tight and twisty this bike has no faults. Now if Turner made a hard tail I'd be set.
Similar Products Used: Intense Tracer, Fisher Sugar 1, Turner XCE, Trek Fuel 100, Santa Cruz Super Light, Cannondale Jekyll & Scalpel. The first three I've owned.
Bike Setup: Fox Float 80mm, King headset, Race Face Deus stem, Easton carbon bar and post, Mavic Cross Max UST wheelset, XTR group and XT disc brakes.
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Mike Miller
a Cross Country Rider
from Fontana,CA
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2002
Strengths: Design,workmanship,looks.
Weaknesses: come on,are you kidding?
Bottom Line:
Went on one of my excursions to do some work in Mexico and an American that runs a bike store there said he could get me a deal on a Turner.Got one at a good savings.I brought it back here to the states to have it built.I have had this bike on 3 good rides so far.(over 30 miles each)And I got to tell you,this is the bike to dream about.Prior bikes were fine ,this one is great.Dave Turner has out done himself here.If you ever get the chance to ride an 02 or an XCE,do it. Then you'll understand what a mountain bike is supposed to do.This bike seems to have a mind of it's own.It's kind of like ,point and shoot.I found myself flowing through stuff that in the past I dreaded even riding up to.I'm mostly an XC type guy that doesn't want to be bothered with a lot of weight ,but also I don't want a bike I'm going to be afraid of breaking.This is the bike.Once you throw a leg over this gem,and get into some riding you will fall in love.The bike seemed a little stiff at first but that was on fireroads and easy trails.Once into some serious singletrack I found it very comfortable.The manufacturer says it has 3.1 inches of travel,but it feels like a lot more.This bike just soaks it up.It's kind of like a Mercedes vs. Kia.You might have to spend the money,but it's worth it.
Bike Setup: Best of everything.XTR derail.both front and back.Race Face nextLP crankset,Easton CT2 handlebars,Chris King head set,Thomson seat and stem,Hope mini brakes,Mavic Crossroc,Hutchinson Pythons 2.1,XTR shifters,Rock Shox,Duke race fork,SPD 535's.
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Gideon Laronne
from Kfar Shmaryaho, Israel
Date Reviewed: March 9, 2002
Strengths: Light,safe and easy steering,responsive,perfect geometry,high quality workmanship,excelent cable routing,very stiff laterally,beautifully simple in design.
Weaknesses: Have not found yet.
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The personal fit of the bike is perefect,similar to the custom-built Seven. The quslity of the ride is excellent in all aspects.It is a fun bike to ride.there is no body stress on long cross country rides, which I have always experienced with all other bikes I have ridden.It is very light, has lively accelertion.It scores very high in grip and traction in all materials. I have ridden it already in deep sand, gravel roads and rocky terrain. It steers much safer than I have known before, and is both safe and nimble in single-track conditions. I had many doubts how it would perform in copmarison to the Seven`s Teres, and I am very surprised to note that the O2 performs better in all aspects. Its weight distribution is excellent allowing safe and positive steering in up-hill climbs and in almost-zero-speed uphill siuation, when you are bound to step down. I ca full heartedly recommand this bike to any cross country rider and racer who is looking for the top of the line bike for shear enjoyment and unparalleld all terrain performance.