Ponderosa Have you been searching for a pair of shortsThat are comfortable enough for long days inThe saddle yet stylish enoughTo wear aroundTown? Saddle up in comfort and style withThe Ponderosa. Finally, a baggy shortThat’s as versatile as your lifestyle.Features & Benefits * 8 panel micro fiber polyester outer shell is lightweight and durable * 6 panel polyester/Spandex liner with CoolMax for moisture management and comfort * CoolMax sanitized chamois with multi-levelTechnology impr
The Ponderosa shorts fit well, and like a proper pair of mountain biking shorts…they are baggy, but the liner and chamois fit perfect to keep everything in their proper place. There is a buckle on the belt to secure the waist line, and you can cinch them tighter and secure the belt on either side with velcro. The chamois is comfortable but not bulky and breathes well. The outer shell feels thin to the touch, but I have not snagged or torn them.
Submitted by
crfoot
a Cross Country Rider
from so cal
Date Reviewed: August 27, 2011
Strengths: price
Weaknesses: On my 2nd pair. The first pair lasted over a year and was the best short I ever used. Just got this pair and it was the "10" model. Seems like these are not up to par. Not as comfortable and the liner is thin. Sucks cuz these were a great short.
Submitted by
obssesed
a Weekend Warrior
from Honolulu
Date Reviewed: January 8, 2011
Strengths: Lots of pockets. Well built. Cheap and comfortable
Bottom Line:
For the price it is one hell of a pair of shorts. Very comfortable and I like having a lot of pockets. Who cares if I have to hang my junk out while peeing in the woods! I did tear one pair of these shorts after a year and a half of use. But I've also torn my fox and oakley shorts too. Everything wears out eventually. Best clearance priced shorts ever.
Submitted by
Chad5080
a Cross Country Rider
from PA
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2010
Strengths: Durable, comfortable, inexpensive, and multiple pockets
Weaknesses: The velcro on the tip of the belt is used to attach the loose ends to the shorts. If the ends don't reach the velcro section they can rub against your skin. I cut the velcro off and melted the tips to prevent it from fraying and the problem was solved.
Bottom Line:
I don't think you could ask for more from a pair of shorts. I find them to be extremely comfortable and they have held up to plenty of crashes. I haven't had any problems with sagging or the chamois moving around like some others have said. The shorts fit very well which allows you to actually use the pockets while riding. I would definitely buy these shorts again.
Similar Products Used: Lycra shorts, and cargo shorts
Bike Setup: 2009 Trek Fuel ex8
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Submitted by
AusMTB Orienteer
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney Aus
Date Reviewed: September 28, 2010
Strengths: Good Pockets. Keeps you warm in winter
Weaknesses: belt/clip tore out, now the crotch area is ripping badly.
Bottom Line:
waste of money for me, product has fallen apart after only 3 months use. Disappointed in that.
Was looking forward to long use of these as they fitted me and the length, whilst hot in summer (nearly full length) would have protected me from sunburn.
sadly not sure they will last long enough
Submitted by
Garagemonkey
a Cross Country Rider
from So Cal
Date Reviewed: September 16, 2010
Strengths: Lots of large cargo pockets with velcro flaps and smaller zippered pockets for cell phone or keys.
Weaknesses: First, they're hot. Limited ventilation and my thighs were soaked in sweat after a mild 7-mile ride. Second and most obnoxious is the chamois liner padding. Padding thickness is acceptable even with my rock-hard Bontrager saddle, but it falls to one side then the other and feels like you dropped a big solid deuce. Rise up to peddle out of saddle and you feel like some evil sumanabatch crammed a dryer full of towels up your crack. Third, the sizing seems a bit off (maybe it's just me). I have a 31-inch waist and the Mediums I bought were too small. Exchanged 'em for a Large at my LBS (Bike Bling) with no issues.
Rode 'em a few times and am done. Too bad the liner isn't removable 'cause the shorts themselves aren't bad. Maybe I'll cut the chamois liner out and wear 'em as regular shorts. Look good, feel like crap.
Bottom Line:
Although inexpensive, pop the extra dough for vented shorts with better chamois liner.
Submitted by
kapusta
a Weekend Warrior
from Blacksburg, VA
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2010
Strengths: Cheap?
Weaknesses: Terrible liner, terrible chamois, terrible belt design.
Bottom Line:
I have owned 4 pair of Baggies, and 4 pair of Lycra shorts. These are the only ones I just had to stop wearing. For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone thinks these shorts are even tolerable. These are terrible. Where to start?
First the liner. It sucks. It has very little stretch to it, which means it does not do what a liner is supposed to do, which is conform to your body and keep the chamois in place. So either you have one that sags some of the time (like when you are out of the saddle) or is too tight other times (like when you sit down). I get that most people go a size bigger so that they are comfortable sitting down.
Second, the chamois itself. It sucks. It is a pathetic joke. I don't even know why they bothered putting it in there.
So, they put in a useless, uncomfortable, inelastic liner, to hold a chamois that may as well not even be there. Seriously, anyone that thinks these are even remotely acceptable needs to try a good pair of Lycra shorts to understand what a chamois is supposed to do. Good baggies have such liners/chamois, these do not.
Next is the belt. I had to cut out the two loops because they dig into my stomach. The belt is also way longer than it needs to be (thus the need for the loops). Just a dumb design. A pair of scissors took care of all this.
Finally, there is no fly. I have to practically drop my drawers just to take a leak!
These suck. They offer no advantage over just shorts with boxers, unless you get them tight enough to actually behave like bike shorts, but then they are too tight some of the time. Again, try a good set of baggies or Lycra, and you will understand how pathetic these really are.
Similar Products Used: Baggies by Specialized, REI, and others. Plus many Lycra shorts.
Bike Setup: MKIII, Karate Monkey
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Submitted by
Bigtime
a Weekend Warrior
from Oceanside, CA, USA!
Date Reviewed: May 7, 2010
Strengths: Comfort of liner, breathability, urban camo!
Weaknesses: Belt adjustment, mesh that connects the inner and outer short, having to buy anything X X X Large.
Bottom Line:
Good shorts. The sizing is an issue that is well documented on the Clydesdale forum. I wear a size 40" waist Levi jean and the XXXL Ponderosa is a good fit after I snug up the size belt adjustments. The fabric is nice and light but seems durable so far. The liner fits well and the pad is thick for comfort but not obtrusive. I guess my complaints would be about the belt tabs and the mesh that attaches the liner to the outer short. The belt tabs on the side adjust with Velcro, if you have any "love handles" at all they extra strap will make contact with your skin unless you tuck in your jersey, and who does that? Seems like with some engineering they could fix this minor annoyance. My other compliant is the nylon mesh that connects the two shorts. While I can see the function, keeping the outer shell from climbing up, if you don't have things lined up just right you get the extra mesh hanging out, which is annoying. On the plus side, the shorts fit well, move with you and never hang up on the nose of your saddle. There's pockets o' plenty. The side cargo pockets have an extra smaller pocket that closes with a zipper that come in handy. I'm interested to see how these hold up, since at this point they don't do anything my $40.00 Performance Boulder shorts can't do.
Submitted by
wickedwagens
a Weekend Warrior
from Carson City, NV, USA
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2010
Strengths: fit, chamois, coverage, stays put, lots of pockets.
Weaknesses: Waist adjustment is a little weird.
Bottom Line:
I was having a hard time finding a cheap short that had a good rating. I didn't want to drop a bunch on a short that I couldn't try on first. After reading the reviews on here I decided to give it a try. I was not disappointed at all. They perform great. The padding is great, they stay put, and the back goes up nice and high. I really like all of the pocket. You can carry the cell phone and car keys and never know that they are there. I am going to order another pair for when this one is worn out.
Submitted by
Van-Go
a Weekend Warrior
from Wilmington, NC, US
Date Reviewed: November 13, 2009
Strengths: Great $ for what you get. Pockets are nice. Chamois is comfortable. Good color choices. Comfortable and secure
Weaknesses: Run small - if you're on the line between large and medium (let's say) - get the large. Mind hold the stink sorta more than other shorts I have.
Bottom Line:
Three months isn't a good amount of time to determine the worth of a product but I know people I ride with who have had them for years. Tough. Well made. Inexpensive.
Submitted by
yfz_duner
a Weekend Warrior
from Winchester, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: September 15, 2009
Strengths: Great value. Nice, casual looking short. The length is just where I like it. Chamois is comfortable and comforms well. Doesn't feel like a diaper.
Weaknesses: Sizing is a litte small. I'm normally a Large. For my first pair, I bought a Large and they are just bit small. I went ahead and bought an XL for my second and they are a bit big.
Submitted by
sbmac
a Weekend Warrior
from Huntington LI
Date Reviewed: September 9, 2009
Strengths: Sturdy and comfortable. Built in liner is so comfy you never feel it...not too tight. Breathes well, good pockets. Washes well, handles shrubs and bushes without ripping, doesn't snag the saddle nose.
Weaknesses: none
Bottom Line:
Best shorts I own...I like them for the long rides because of the comfy built in liner. Get these, you'll be happy and feel great in the saddle.
Submitted by
Shamu
a Cross Country Rider
from Columbus, Ohio
Date Reviewed: July 18, 2009
Strengths: Effectively covers your nether-region. Doesn't advertise the goods and get funny looks from non-riders like lycra does. Good array of secure cargo pockets.
Weaknesses: Waist sizing isn't true (you should size up). Mesh/main pockets degraded after about 3 months, so they aren't functional for doing what pockets should do for very long. Mismatched tailoring on the waist belt velcro brillos your skin (this is true for all 3 pairs that I own). That's either poor design or construction--either way it sucks. Waist stitching tears (true for all 3). Chamois is over-sized and feels like a diaper. This can lead to unwanted rub on the tip of your little man on long rides. Further the fabric used for shorts tears easily. I've ripped the butt out of 2 of the 3 pairs that I own just from regular XC riding. The fabric catches on the nose of the seat when sliding back for declining trails and will tear to the bottom of the hem.
Bottom Line:
If you ride regularly, then you'll be stitching these back together fairly regularly or buying new ones in ~12 months. I still use 'em, 'cause they're all I got. There is a lot of room for improvement, especially in the design and quality of what I guess (but hope isn't!) sweatshop construction. I'd love to try out a similar product at a similar price for comparison. In the end I expect more durability for 40 dollars.