Weaknesses: everything. needs constant adjustment I use locktite and tourqe the hell out of it it moves around every few rides
Bottom Line:
DONT BUY IT......... THE E.THIRTEEN IS HASSLE FREE. THE PROBLEM OCCURS WHEN YOU TAKE BIG DROPS AND THE CHAIN PUSHES UP ON THE BOX AND ITS PLASTIC SO EAVEN WITH IT REAL REAL REAL TIGHT IT EVENTUALY MOVES AND AFTER THE THIRD TIME THE CHAIN WILL FALL OFF AND THEN BREAK OUT THE TOOLS CAUSE THATS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE CHAIN BACK IN THE BOX.
Bike Setup: Canyon Explorer, Drop Off IV, Fox with Brain Specialized, Mavic 823, Sunrims S-Type, Race Face Ride XC, Gigapipe, El Camino, Tioga, DMR V12
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Imprezsia
a Cross Country Rider
from Lambertville, NJ
Date Reviewed: July 7, 2009
Strengths: Keeps chain on
Weaknesses: Crappy Plastic Top, Bottom pulley too far to right - experience a lot of rub
Bottom Line:
Heavy, Noisy, Don't Buy - Probably going to custom grind it to make bash fit better and may grind down to make less heavy.
Bike Setup: Author a gang ej:em,tora 289 uturn,durolx cranks,saint brakes
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mildcore
a Downhiller
from Bellingham, WA
Date Reviewed: October 7, 2008
Strengths: My chain has never fallen off. Light.
Weaknesses: not the best out there. Doesnt allow e13 bashguard.
Bottom Line:
I have been using it for the last 3 months with no problem. My bike came with a 38 tooth chain ring and it worked with that. I ended up switching to a 32 tooth to be able to do some climbing and it works fine with that too. If it didnt come on the bike i would probably go with e13, especially because i cant run a bashguard with it. Its not terrible, but not amazing.
Strengths: basically none, it just doesn't do what it was designed to do.
Weaknesses: -extremely high friction -bends easily -chain falls off repeatedly
Bottom Line:
I've never given a product 1 out of 5 before but this is just ridiculous... The crap piece of plastic up on the top always rubbed somewhere and bent so i took it off. The wheel at the bottom has got far too much play => it was not straight => the whole drivetrain had noticable friction AND once i took the whole chainguide off, the chain has basically always stayed in place. with it on do a bunny hop => chain is off ===> this product is no good. In fact: its a disgrace.
Bike Setup: 2004 Specialized Big Hit with a Marzocchi Bomber fork, an X-Fusion Glyder rear shock, and Hayes 8" disc brakes.
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Christophe marin
a Downhiller
from hawkesbury, ont, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2007
Strengths: the lower roller never had any problems keeps the chain tight, it indure abuse and its simple
Weaknesses: the chaine guide itself, its just plain crap it keeps getting loose, it dosent hold the chain very well unless u spend a while adjusting it but as soon as as u ride in rough terrain its gets loose and the chaine falls off so if ur sprinting its gonna hurt and dont even think about putting a bashgard because you have to take off the side of thye chaine guide and if u do that u might as well take it off.
Bottom Line:
if u are just looking for the lower part then go and buy it it dosent get much better than that but if u need the whole thing or just the chainbox then go look somewhere else like mrp or e-13
Strengths: Works very very well, sets up perfectly if you just follow the directions. Light in weight, very well built, adjustable for any chainline/chainring size between like 32 / 44t. Great flexibility, fits pretty much any frame configuration. Team version with the sealed bearing jockey wheel has the lowest resistance of any chain device I have used so far, you really don't know it's there when you're pedaling, however the chain NEVER comes off. Cheap - about half the price of MRP or E13, and works at least as well, if not better.. won't go back to either of those again.
Weaknesses: None, does exactly what it is supposed to.
Bottom Line:
It's a great product. Be sure you get the team version which uses a high quality sealed bearing on the jockey wheel. I honestly don't know how some of these people are saying it's hard to set up. If you follow the directions exactly (not rocket science BTW), it sets up correctly the first time. Just use Loc-Tite on the bolts, and it's going to run trouble free. Great set and forget chain guide. I haven't had to touch it since I installed. takes maybe 20 mins to set up properly if you take your time and double check everything. No complaints at all.
Bike Setup: Tomac Moah, Marz 888 RC2X, Sun Modo wheels, RF cranks and bottom bracket, etc.etc
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tatu s
a Weekend Warrior
from finland
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2007
Strengths: came with the bike/cheap cheap and it works.
Weaknesses: If I set it wrong the chain eats the plastic upper part. you have to "mod" it to fit a rockring makes horrific noise when the lower wheel is not lubricated, or the chainline is not about dead center.
Bottom Line:
ok, this is my introduction to the world of chain guides. The chain has been on so far. took some time to set it right. no huge problems yet, so a new mrp/e13/blackspire is not on the shopping list.
Strengths: keeps the chain on as they are spose to,if set up good
Weaknesses: lots of fiddling to get it set up,smallest chain ring you can run is 34t, anything smaller you need to start modding it.makes pedalling bit more of an effort.
Bottom Line:
if you can afford to pay a few hours layber to the local bike shop to set it up go for it,if not then you need alot of patience or hopefully you fluke it, cant run any smaller chain ring than 34t with it on, noisy unless you get the sealed team version, honestly i spent hours getting it lined up,used it for two days and took it off again,rather have a tight chain and custom a front derailluer with a bash plate,does a better job,more quiet and can run any size chain ring i want. having said all that this is still better than some chain guides!!!!!!1
Similar Products Used: MRP, DMR, Gamut, E-13, Blackspire
Bike Setup: 06 specialized bighit spec, drop off tripple fork, vanilla r shock, a-frame pedals, xt derailleur, truvativ bash guard, and more
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Viktor
a Weekend Warrior
from Bratislava
Date Reviewed: October 17, 2006
Strengths: Never drops. Only happend once during a hard crash. Doesnt weigh a ton.
Weaknesses: You have to get special screws for your bashring. Looks Truvativ (sorry guys). Takes some time to set up.
Bottom Line:
This think works, works and works, no matter how hard it might be to get it set up. Once done it holds well. I will never spend 3 times as much for a fancy e13 or MRP. Just to look more fancy...
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mike wilson
a Downhiller
from newmarket,ontario,canada
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2006
Strengths: amazing i love this thing, when set up by the right bike shop they will put time into putting it on correctly and it works. it is so quiet. the noise is the exact same from when it wasnt on and it keeps th chain on.
Weaknesses: none so far!
Bottom Line:
amazing, worrth the 100 dollars just i would reconmend a bike shop set it up cus it can be tricky.
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