Submitted by
Tim
a Cross Country Rider
from Arvada, CO, USA
Date Reviewed: October 26, 2006
Strengths: Retro, light, let you use non-SRAM der., they work (when cared for!!) For the record, I prefer SRAM deraileurs. But if you have an old XTR laying around...
Weaknesses: Require love. But don't all good things??
Bottom Line:
This review is for Gripshift (SRAM) X-ray 800s. When cared for these work flawlessly. I put these back on an old hardtail setup with an old XTR rear der. and they work great. If you rebuild these, only use Jonnisnot lube. People use more viscous stuff and then complain they don't work right. Follow directions people! I've always treated these well; maybe that's why they still work. I used the heck out of them back in the day, and they still work like day one. Are they feel as tight as a new SRAM setup? Maybe not, but if you can find a pair cheap and need something for a fun build, grab 'em! Rated for what they were, and what they still are to me (cue the sappy music...)
Similar Products Used: Various Shimano triggers, SRAM 9.0., 9.0SL, XO
Bike Setup: Old Schwinn hardtail with retro parts that work
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Providence, RI
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2003
Strengths: Cheap, works well if you remain in one gear
Weaknesses: Cheap plastic, lousy shifting even for the economy.
Bottom Line:
I have one old set of Grip Shifts that never fail on my commuter bike, so I stuck with the brand for the woods. WOW what a stupid idea. During, off to the side fall, I kicked the shifter right off the bike. It shattered like the cheapo piece of pastic that it was. I was glad since it never shifted easily or well, no matter how well lubed or with new cables.......don't waste your money
Now, all three of my bikes have lx trigger shifters, even the cheapest trigger shifters perform better.
Similar Products Used: Sram Centara=don't waste your money
Bike Setup: two wheels, lx... blah, blah, blah
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Submitted by
Steve
from Chunan, Korea
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2003
Strengths: Simplicity - fewer parts Ability to shift multiple gears quickly and easily Durability - been using them since '95, relatively trouble-free
Weaknesses: Horrible performance in mud - need hands of stone to grip and shift Hands placed further from the brake levers than trigger shifters
Bottom Line:
I've been using these shifters for nearly 8 years and they've been holding up pretty well. They've been through a fair share of adverse conditions and traumatic impacts. I'm using XT front and XTR rear derailleurs with Gore Ride-on cables. The shifters and my cables are finally starting to show their age. The plastic housing has finally cracked, but without affecting shifting that much. But compared to my friend's SRAM shifters, the feel is sloppier.
Although there are a number of positive attributes, their poor performance in mud (unable to turn the damn slippery things - in Korea it snows in the winter, summer's monsoon season, and I've got exams in spring and autumn) and the uncomfortable reach to the brake levers are reasons I've decided to switch over to Shimano's XTR, if I can find any 8-speed shifters in Korea..
Submitted by
anton
a Cross Country Rider
from milpitas
Date Reviewed: December 6, 2002
Strengths: nothing sticking out, such as levers in rapidfire shifters, that can potentially break in a fall, so they are quite durable
Weaknesses: very poor shifting with shimano derailleurs, hard to shift, CHEAPO!!!
Bottom Line:
These things are really hard to twist. Although i did adjust to that after a while. One thing that you can get used to is the poor shifting quality. There is no way to dial them in with my XTR derailleurs to get flawless shifting through all gears. The fun part is that the shifters that came with my wallmart Murray, were almost exact SAME shifters. They may have not looked the same, but had exact same internals. Despite that they worked for quite a while. I am using XT shifters now, since the plastic wore down in Xrays, and man, what a difference. The fact that SRAM bought rock shox is pretty hillarious. Both are famous for making their parts out of cheap plastic. While in general these things work, go with shimano shifters, simply because they work better.
Weaknesses: -it's not shimano (could be a strength too :o)
Bottom Line:
I have been using these on all my bikes in the last 5 years or so. Those who like Gripshift will like these. I am running an XT front/XTR rear derailleur. I beat them every ride, and they never let me down. Let me just say: most problems (in fact the majority, I would say) people encounter in these reviews is due to improper assembly. Just because you can patch a tube, it doesn't mean you are a mechanic. Bike wrenching takes finesse! (And a torque wrench doesn't hurt!!)
Submitted by
Maxwell Czekala
a Cross Country Rider
from Portage, IN USA
Date Reviewed: March 17, 2001
Strengths: Light weight, simplicity (no tiny internal gears)
Weaknesses: Poor shifting, ridiculous cable replacement, and again, poor shifting.
Bottom Line:
I've worked in three different shops, so please don't say they're not adjusted correctly. I put these shifters on about two years ago, thinking they'd be lighter and shift just as well as the XT stuff I was using. I used XTR derailleurs, XTR cassette, XTR chain, and XT cranks & rings. These shifters don't index nearly as well as shimano stuff. I tried and tried to get them to work, and eventually got used to the huffy-like shifting. I put new XT pods on yesterday at the shop, and immediately remembered what a $2500 bike shifts like. I don't want to say they're garbage, because like Elvis, 50 million fans can't be wrong. However, they don't work for me. As for the guy under me, Dude, I remember when shimano thumb shifters came on the top bikes! It seems like yesterday when grip shift came out! I'm not making fun of you, though.... bike riders are all brothers. Good luck with this stuff... They're cheap, but they just don't shift as well. You get what you pay for, sucka!
Similar Products Used: Shimano STX, LX, XT, Grip shift 600, 800, etc.
Bike Setup: Trek 8500 w/ XT & XTR parts, custom built wheels, magnesium avid brakes & levers, good stuff, etc...
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Submitted by
Crazyman
a Racer
from Abbotsford, BC, Canada
Date Reviewed: March 10, 2001
Strengths: LIGHT!!! lighter than anything else out there,including XTR and SRAM 9.0 sl, and at a much lower price point
Weaknesses: A little finickety to set up, but once they're dialed, perfect performance
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The bomb for xc, cause they're light, simple, and put your derailure where you want it. They're old school, but it gets lookes when you whoop people on parts that were around before most of us kids were riding.
Similar Products Used: STXRC, XTR, XT, SRAM Plasma, 9.0 SL
Bike Setup: Ibis Szasbo, Manitou SX ti, All XTR, Titec, Thompson, Mavic, ect 24 lbs
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Submitted by
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a Cross Country Rider
from California
Date Reviewed: March 1, 2001
Strengths: Accurate shifting (with XT derailleur) Low price
Weaknesses: No gear indicators...? Mine might be a factory defect, but there's no index markings... The plastic shell is not weak like many reviewers seem to like saying, they just look that way because they're not opaque like most grip shifters. They're about the same thickness... although the clamping system is plastic instead of metal, which could pose a problem if you're the type to tighten things until you strip out the bolt.
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These are the best grip shifters for the price in my opinion.
Similar Products Used: Grip Shift 9.0 Grip Shift Centra Grip Shift Neos Grip Shift 100, 50, and some other low end ones.
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Submitted by
weather expert
a Weekend Warrior
from iowa
Date Reviewed: February 25, 2001
Strengths: simple, kinda light
Weaknesses: HARD TO SHIFT! at the end of the trail i won't have enough strength left to shift.
ugly, cheap looking plastic indicators (those on huffys look prettier)
i just don't like gripshifts that much...personal preference. will have to try teh new srams before i decide.
Bottom Line:
i took them off as soon as they arrived with my bike. it feels like someone has dripped glue in them. i need to do weightlifting in order to handle these shifters comfortably. they are durable and simple though...probably the newer gripshifts will be more crisp.
Similar Products Used: cheap no name gripshifts on cheap noname bikes
Bike Setup: x-caliber
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Submitted by
IVAN
a Downhiller
from BROOOKLYN
Date Reviewed: February 25, 2001
Strengths: they actually work after almost 3 yars of downhill bashing
Weaknesses: they look like crap after after almost 3 yars of downhill bashing
Bottom Line:
these babies rule the F*cking downhill world, I took off the XTR from mt GT an put the X-RAYs. Now all my friends are loughing at me and saying thet the X-rays will turn to dust after the first drop-off. But i don't F*cking care i never shift any way. FIVE CHILLS FOR THEIR LONG LASTING LIFE
Bike Setup: Stock GT DHi- race, 8 speed LX cassete
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Submitted by
Tobs
a Cross Country Rider
from Maryland
Date Reviewed: November 13, 2000
Strengths: weight, simplicity, durability
Weaknesses: none so far
Bottom Line:
These will always be a classic shifter. It revolutionized the shifter in it's time. The simplicity of the X Rays gives it high marks, as does weight and durablity. It's been thru a few races and a 24 hrs Canaan and Snowshoe (yes, the 2000 24 Hrs of Snowshoe which was virtually unrideable) so I beleive in the product. They will not let you down. As a matter of fact, I just bought some new ones from Pricepoint.com for $15. With a little TLC, they'll last forever.
Similar Products Used: shimano pods older gripshifts
Bike Setup: S-Works with SID XC, XT V-brakes, Gripshift XRays, NukeProof stem, King headset, LX cranks, Real hubs, WTB SST Podium, Rock Shox seatpost, Wildgrippers, XT f and r der.
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Submitted by
M Jason Snyder
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxville, TN. USA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2000
Strengths: NONE
Weaknesses: EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE. YOU WON'T HAVE A HAND LEFT BY THE END OF A RIDE. EXTREMELY HARD SHIFTING. BLISTERS.
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I COULD NEVER GET THEM TO SHIFT WITHOUT PUTTING SOME SERIOUS MUSCLE INTO IT. THEY WERE ROUTED PROPERLY, AND I HAD THEM CHECKED OUT AT THE BIKE SHOP. THESE ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO EBAY.
Similar Products Used: XTR shifters [shimano] SRAM 8.0
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Submitted by
jason
a Cross Country Rider
from woods hole,ma
Date Reviewed: February 2, 2000
Strengths: inexpensive
Weaknesses: cheap plastic
Bottom Line:
these work, but are super flimsy. they broke on the first crash. i had them on a commuter bike and they were great, though. the plastic breaks if you overtighten the locking bolt. i like gripshift for front der and shimano for the rear.... they get 2 cuz they work and are cheap, but are flimsy and are cheap