Favorite Trail: Diamond hill, Crusoe Res, Big hill
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Similar Products Used: deore, alivio
Bike Setup: 08 Norco charger,stock, deore rear derailler alivio front
from mountain home ark
Date Reviewed: March 12, 2010
Weaknesses: refer to product strengths
Totally sucks. Nothing like the xt used to be quality wise. Shifting up is relatively smooth but still not as smooth as the older styles. Going down is horrible, a pretty good pull to get the shifters to shift then a audible clud that is so loud you can feel it in the frame, along with hesitation. New cables and housings out of the box. SUCKS
Im totally gun shy of any shimano shifters now.
a Cross Country Rider
from Baltimore, MD, USA
Date Reviewed: December 30, 2009
Strengths: - Dual Release
- Precise Indexing
- Easy to set up
- Removeable Gear indicator
Weaknesses: - A little platicky but cant complain for the price
- A little extra effort is needed to move the triggers but I actually like it. I can see how some might not so I will list as a negative.
I love these shifters. I have seen some negative reviews regarding this shifter set but mine have been flawless for over a year. They function perfectly with my XT derailluers. I love the instant release and they have shifted precisely when my derailleurs are adjusted properly. I have also perfomed the newly found mod that alows these shifters to release two gears at a time like the XTR shifters. I love them even more now. In my expereince these have been a great shifter at a resonable price and have not failed me for over a year. I have taken several hard falls including a few OTB's and have yet to damage these shifters. My vote is do not hesitate to buy theses shifters at the discounted prices they can be had for these days. I ride mostly XC trails with I guess a bit of light AM thrown in. I certainly have ham fisted several shifts under load and they handled it without problems. All in all I can say this is a great set of shifters for all riders save for the most discrimiate types or racers that need the performance of XTR's or SRAM X0's.
Bike Setup: 2004 Cannondale F300
- '09 Rockshox Reba Race
- SLX M661 Triple Crank
- XT Shadow rear derailleur
- XT M770 Front Derailluer
- Easton Monkeylite XC Carbon Bars
- Thomson Elite Seatpost and Stem
- SRAM PG990 Chain and Cassette
- Avid SD7 Levers and Rear V-Brake
- Avid BB7 160mm Front Brake
- Hope Seat collar and quick release
- Mavic 819XM Custom built wheels with DT spokes and XT 6 bolt hubs
- Crank Bros Candy C pedals
- WTB Speed V seat
- Jagwire Ripcord cables
- Lizard Skins lock on grips
a Weekend Warrior
from Omaha, NE
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2009
Strengths: You can shifter down four gears in one "push," as opposed to three on the regular Deores
Weaknesses: - "2-way release" feature for was a good idea but I was always hitting the release lever while trying to shift to a lower (larger) sprocket.
- Don't always shift when you want them to. You make the shift, the bike does not. When you try again, they "catch up" and shift two.
- Sometimes start trying to climb or drop down a gear by themselves!
- They are finicky. Rides seem to start out by adjusting one direction and end up adjusting the other direction by the end of the ride.
- Locked up the drivetrain while shifting, causing me to smash my knee into the handlebar stem. That's when I decided the XT's had to go!
As far as shifters go, they don't do what they are supposed to do reliably. Every bike I've owned with indexing shifters has had Shimano components on it so I always thought that "finicky" was just the nature of the beast, especially on bikes with somewhat lower level components. I was disappointed to find out that the XT's are just a feature-rich version of the same bad design.
After looking for alternatives online, it seems like Shimano has built quite a reputation for finicky shifters. As a forum user put it, "click click click click thuuunk!" After my XT's locked up the drive train at an inopportune moment in the mountains, I decided to replace them with a set of Sram X.9's. The X.9's are a dream! It sounds ridiculous but I seriously had no idea shifters could be so clean, crisp and stable. It's like a whole new world to me. Ditch your Shimano's NOW!
Similar Products Used: - Shimano Deore (now called Deore LX?) which have all the same problems.
- Sram X.9, which so far have been incredible!
Bike Setup: - 2007 Iron Horse "Azure - Expert" full suspension XC
- Shimano downswing front derailleur
- Now has Sram X.9 shifters and rear derailleur
- Formula Oro K24 brakes with 180mm discs
- Fox F32R fork, Float R rear shock
- DT/Swiss X1800 wheelset
a Weekend Warrior
from Balikpapan Indonesia
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2009
Strengths: before it broke it worked well
easy to change cables
Shimano tech docs excellent
Weaknesses: Questionable build strength as my FD shifter housing broke after ~150 riding hours.
Upon closer inspection the plastic housing where the barrel adjuster enters had flared. I took it apart and realigned a few of the 'metal bits' inside the shifter which reduced the flaring but its still not flush. IMO it could probably do with another screw around where the adjuster mates with the shifter.
I'm pretty easy going on the shift, "only" endo'd 1 time in the time I've been using this.
FD does get packed in mud here in the tropics which might explain extra tension on the shifter - but I'ld expect XT to be up to the task.
I'm not going to replace it with XT, currently got an 06 Deore on there - probably just the excuse I need to "upgrade" to SRAM.
a Cross Country Rider
from Albuquerque, NM, USA
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2009
Strengths: Great price/performance ratio
Weaknesses: Weak plastic barrel adjuster
Ok, So I was replacing my Deore Mega 9 shifters that had the little plastic barrel adjusters completely chewed up through continuous use. So much so, I couldn't do fine adjustments to the derailleur cable tension. I decided to get XT because of the indicators (XTR doesn't have them). When I installed the XTs, I saw the same plastic barrel adjusters on the them as well. I didn't think too much of it since I though since I was buying XT, I would be getting a durable product.
My first ride out with the new XTs, I biffed it on a rocky descent. Everything seemed ok except my rear derailleur shifting was off. Low and behold, the XT plastic barrel shifter had snapped off. My brand new shifter rendered completely useless. Now, I know that I put the shifter under a lot of stress by falling, and maybe I was just really unlucky, since I've fallen much worse before and no harm was rendered to my bike. But I'm still weary of such weak part of the shifter pods. I decided to go with XTR since they have a different type of barrel shifter that appears more durable. Hopefully that's actually the case. Otherwise, the shifters seem fine. They don't have the real clicky metal feel of the SRAM XOs, but they had really good indexing and feel when they did work. Just something to think about if you like to ride aggressively and ocassionally take the plunge.
3 chilis if you want good shifters. But don't expect them to survive a good fall, which is something that I'm concerned about these days.
Weaknesses: When trying to change to an easier gear using my thumb finger the shifter "clongs" cuz my thumb is also touching thr shifter that would make it harder. Long story short, I am not able to shif as fast as I used with my 2003 XT shifter. Another horrible point is that I need more power on my finger because these new shifter are harder... I hate it. I would love my old ones bacl
I would love to take it back to shimano and ask them to biuld something better. It works but it is not made to someone who needs fast shifting. When I say fast, I mean fast finger shifting
Strengths: Aluminum upshift lever
finger/thumb downshift lever
Short and smooth shifts
Weaknesses: Breaks after dirt gets inside (rachet is too cheap)
Rear shifter rachet is weak
Too much plastic
Do not ride them in the mud because they will break or freeze like a lot of shifters. These just seem more prone to seizing and malfunction. If they freeze up or arent working, take them apart and soak them in simple green then lube the whole thing and they should work for a while after.
Buy XTR shifters or SRAM and you wont be wasting your money.
this is a review on the M750 old school xt shifters. my pair is seven years old and still works flawlessly. the shifting is unbelievably smooth and effortless. i recently tried out the sram x.9 shifters, and i was surprised by the feel of the x.9's. i really expected to love them, and the 1 to 1 actuation is from a mechanical standpoint more reliable, and easier to adjust, but the x.9's just felt clunky and unrefined compared to the xt shifters. the M750's shift levers start pulling the cable almost immediately, there's little friction inside the mechanism, and they don't give the loud ratcheting clicks that the x.9's do.
as to hugh's review on the m750's, unless there's something restricting cable movement, and causing excess tension in the cables, or the cables aren't set up properly (especially the loop that goes in the rear derailleur), these things shift just fine, they're a breeze to adjust (i've recently had to replace housing twice, and it's taken just a few minutes to readjust both times), and they preform flawlessly.
Bike Setup: 2005 Gary Fisher Marlin, eggbeaters, xt shifters and rear derailleur, different saddle, 2003 Maniou Black Elite Air, a few other changes
a Cross Country Rider
from Reading, PA
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2008
Strengths: This is for the 2008 M770s. These thing shift so smoothly coupled with the XT shadow rear! This a night and day upgrade from my old shifters. I LOVE the two way release feature, and will be using it from now on.
Weaknesses: a little plasticky in places, but if that doesn't affect performance then I don't care.
These were a great deal. Originally bought a 2007 set, and the eBay retailer ran out so they sent me the 2008s. These are what I wanted anyway. These shifters are one of the best things about my bike. They tuned up great, and shift very smoothly.
Was using a pair of Shimano Deore 9sp (M511) with a XT (M761) RD and had nothing but problems dialing in the rear end. After weeks of trouble shooting after botched rides I dialed it down to a bad Deore shifter. Installed the new M770 and M772RD today and words cannot describe what a difference. Dialed right in, heavy test ride over steep ascents and descents and it shifted crisp and reliable everytime. Love the dual action and overall feel of the 2008 XT shifter over the Deore. Also liked the way the new RD sits - will see how it works this weekend on some tough muddy single track with lots of rolling trail!
When riding/racing twisty XC trail my right thumb starts to get really tired from all the shifting into the lower gears (after about 2 hours), anyone else experience this and have solution ? Cables are clean with only about 400 miles and I've tried rotating the lever. I've never counted shifts, but ... Read More »
I just got a set of these because I was looking for something different and had the appropriate derailleurs already. I'm wondering what the opinions of the crowd are now they've been out for a bit. I've not been able to find much with the Googlefu. Specific questions: how durable are they and how lo ... Read More »
I just installed my xt FD and shifter, all is fine but when I shift to granny gear(smallest chain ring) there's loud thus noise like you slam something against the bike. Did i installed it wrong or is it broken. Please help me, your advice is very much appreciated..
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