Strengths: Functionality! All the guys I ride with have this seat, and this winter, I really learned to use the seat to my advantage while climbing. The extra length really helps out.
Weaknesses: Okay, can you imagine the jokes I get being a female and riding with a seat shaped like this one?!? It's actually kind of comical. But, once you get over the looks, it's well worth it. Also, the paint on the rails.
Bottom Line:
If you want a saddle that functions like a saddle should, is not so hard that you can't walk after your ride, and will take a good slam here and there without failing, get this seat.
Strengths: Sturdy, strong, lasts long, looks good (i have mine in red)
Weaknesses: none so far. its held up to everything. The "Tioga" wore off on the side though, but thats a given.
Bottom Line:
Great saddle. The other guy on this page said his rails bent, but he must have a defective product. Ive had mine for a year, and id say id bashed it good. So far so good. Its a great saddle and the extra size is more comfortable. Also, the bigger size is great for when you need to pinch it between your knees for no handers or stability. By it if you want a lasting, heavier weight saddle. If i break this seat sometime soon, i'll buy another one.
Submitted by
Kris
a Weekend Warrior
from Brisbane, Australia
Date Reviewed: March 30, 2002
Strengths: This seat is long and narrow just like a motocross seat, it allows you to shift your body back and forward while seated and is very narrow allowing you to get off the back while descending. also looks good ( black and red )
Weaknesses: Still hard on your bum.
Bottom Line:
I couldn't find a better seat for free-riding so I bought it and have since noticed alot of pro down-hillers using them. The black and white version looks longer ( but isn't ) and has less kevlar and staples, so got the red and black one. I am very pleased with the seat and the extra length is a big help on technical trails, fully recomended.
Strengths: Comfortable, long, firm but not so hard it hurts your butt, not so soft it gives you hemmhorhoids, looks, low profile enough to stay out of your way when doing tabletops and other bike whip tricks
Weaknesses: rails can bend easily
Bottom Line:
This is a great seat. I used a tioga multi control dh and found it so soft that it hurt my butt after riding down the street, not to mention trails. I loaned this to my friend and he wrecked it, but it was thrashed anyway so he gave me $20 and I got another one. It's obvious that alot of effort went into this saddle, because it's so well designed. When I break this, I'll get tioga's new version with replaceable rails (hopefully out by this fall.) If you like good seats that don't hurt your butt, pick this up and you will be happy.
Similar Products Used: tioga multi control dh, azonic love seat, haro mirra, snafu
Bike Setup: K2 beast, d521s, blackspire chain guide
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Submitted by
dex tao
a Cross Country Rider
from toronto, ontario
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2001
Strengths: UTMOST COMFORT LENGTH STANDOUT LOOKS
Weaknesses: CRAP RAIL PAINT KINDA HEAVY STANDOUT LOOKS!
Bottom Line:
THE ULTIMATE CUSH SEAT WITH A PERFECT PROFILE (FOR ME). XL LENGTH IS THE REAL PLUS.
BUT, I HAD TO CUTOUT THE SHELL FOR COMFORT + RAIL PAINT CHIPS OFF EASILY. OH WELL. 450G TOO. THATS 4GRAMS SHY OF A POUND!
EVERYONE NOTICES YOUR SEAT AND WILL MOST LIKELY COMMENT ON IT IF THERE TALKIN TO YA. BEEN CALLED A "LOAF OF BREAD" "HORSE'S D---" "THATS QUITE THE SEAT YA GOT THERE!!"
Similar Products Used: ALL: WTB SST, SPECLZD BG'S, SERFAS, BONTRAGER, FLITE, ALL TERRY'S, AVOCETS, TRICO SPORTS, SDG'S, VELO SPORT, VETTA'S, SELLE SAN MARCO ETC..
Bike Setup: GF SUPERCALIBER FULL RIGID, 1X8 D/T, THMBSHIFTER, 9DEGREE BAR, HAND FILED AL STEM - YEAH!
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Submitted by
adam young
a Downhiller
from melbourne, victoria, australia
A very tough saddle, I have had about 4 jumps resulting in a crash each time on the kevlar edges and they still look brand new, I had a hard landing on the seat a while ago and I havn't bent the rails yet. There are some minor problems with it like the stapples are starting to fall out from underneath and gram weinies will complain about the weight a little bit(Paul Vizzari),and I think that the Azonic seats are more comfortable than this one though.I also managed the get this seat for $80 dollars less because it was on sale.
Similar Products Used: serfas, azonic love seat, koski,sdg,
Bike Setup: specialized rockhopper, d521, avid, azonic, rockshox
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Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix , AZ
Date Reviewed: December 15, 2000
Strengths: Looks, strength, very comfy
Weaknesses: The white paint on the rails scratches off too easily.
Bottom Line:
This is the best saddle I have ever had. It is very tough, and coupled with the Hurricane Seatpost (extra long clamp) it is damn near bomb-proof. I don't understand why everyone claims the rails are flimsy. I haven't had any problems, and I have been riding off drops and doing some really sick riding. In my opinion, this saddle rocks, and I give it 5 flaming chilis!
Strengths: Tough, Sexy, Huge, Kevlar, Cushy, Sleek, Great for Climbing and descending (Multi-Positions, what do you know?)
Weaknesses: Needs kevlar on tip. Long rails put too much leverage on seatpost clamp causing the clamp to break. Buy a nice post.
Bottom Line:
I was stupid and bought the saddle at too high of a price. I got the red and black version to go with my bike (Great) After 2 years of hardcore freeriding use, it's rails are only mildly warped (Barely noticeable) I have been through at least 4 posts because the rails are so long that they break clamps due to leverage (Tip: Buy a nice post) Has tiny rip on the front, but other than that, fine. It will kick your ass. Great for freeriding because you can get your bum waaay back for chutes, or sit forward for climbing all comfortably. The ultimate freeride saddle, buy one.
Weaknesses: Weak rails, Rips easily, Paint comes of rails to easily.
Bottom Line:
good for money, though the rails are weak. Also it didn't like my Kalloy seat post, I got a Ritchey and it then worked fine, it is a good saddle for Dual and DH.
Bike Setup: Scott Yecora, set up for jumping and street riding.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Downhiller
from New Hampshire
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2000
Strengths: Comfy and really is an improvement over most shorter saddles, kevlar edges are nice, and an "O SO KEWL" racing stripe!
Weaknesses: I was at Attitash recently for the race, and i have to say i was very disappointed. i took one slip off the pedals and i didnt hit the seat very hard but aparently it was hard enough to bend the rails all to #ell. the rails have bent perfectly around my thomson seat post, and i have no adjustment left.
Bottom Line:
I was really disappointed. it seems like all the good riders were riding Tioga, so i trusted this seat to last. i had it for a week before it was trashed! they really need to do something about the rails. i am going to try to bend them enough so that the seat is at least EVEN.. A great design, but the workmanship with those rails is ridiculous! they probably forgot to heat-treat them or something.. anyways, if you dont ride hard, this would be a great seat, but it does not hold up to DH abuse... not even slalom!
Similar Products Used: Serfas ARC (im switching back)
Bike Setup: Spooky Metalhead with Hayes, Z.1 CR, all the slalom goodies :)
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Submitted by
sicko
a Weekend Warrior
from nelson B.C. CANADA
Date Reviewed: July 10, 2000
Strengths: first of all i am a freerider not a weekend warrior thats just the closest thing but it just doesent soud right. Getting to the point i bought this seat today a did 3 8 foot drops 1 6 foot and 2 5 footers and hit the on almost all of them and it didnt bend or nothing i love this seat go out and buy one also its a sweet price i snagged mine for $40 canadian
Weaknesses: none but i just got it today so i put another review in later
Bottom Line:
get this seat you will not regret it infact you will fall in love with it and want to buy another one just to sit on while you watch T.V.
Bike Setup: Marin with hope disk s&m pedals double wides drop offs azonic stem in short terms the works. roox handel bar
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Submitted by
Shane
a Cross Country Rider
from Upstate NY
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2000
Strengths: price, looks, size
Weaknesses: a little wiggly
Bottom Line:
Great seat overall. Tons of room to move around on and super long rails for ultimate fore/aft adjustments. Plus that white stripe looks bad a$$. I only wish I had the Tioga DH rims to match. My only problem is that the seat seems to have a little play on the rails. It doesn't seem to be a problem now, long term I don't know.
Strengths: super sweet, so much room, great for ur nads looks like a skunks butt
Weaknesses: heavey
Bottom Line:
sweet, ok price, exelent control and looks cool, a all around good sadle, as some other reviews have said, u should have a good seat clamp system, because on the seat get alot of leverage
