Strengths: Great entry level saddle. Perfect for short commutes (under 20 miles) and running around town on the weekends. Plus it doesnt look like anything someone would want to steal.
Weaknesses: a little to firm on the long haul. Got periodic numbness after about 20 miles.
I rhode the 143 version of this saddle for 3 years straight. With no problem what so ever. It is a great saddle for a weekend warior or the short distance rider. We are doing a 700 mile tour in the spring so I thought it was time to get a newer saddle. I went with a Italia Gel Flight 130.
Similar Products Used: Flight Gel, Flight, Salsa, Velo
Bike Setup: 95 HardRock Ultra, set-up for commuting w/ Scott At4 aero bar's
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Rosa, Ca.
Date Reviewed: April 21, 2004
Strengths: Looks like a saddle
Weaknesses: Not comfortable in the least
if this saddle weighed 146 grams I'd brag about it and show it off to all my buddies. But according to Weight Weenies, it porks in at 287 grams. A saddle at this weight should be comfortable. I'd love to throttle the "doctor" that came up with this "body geometry" stuff, or at least make him ride on this saddle for a few hours.
Similar Products Used: WTB SST, Selle Italia Flite, TransAm, old Specialized Pro
Bike Setup: Came on '03 Epic Disk
a Cross Country Rider
from Double Oak, TX, USA
Date Reviewed: April 4, 2004
Strengths: More comfortable than a bare seatpost
Weaknesses: Never truly felt comfortable for more than an hour (numbness would begin sitting in and generally uncomfortable).. seemed padding would compact into the center, negating the center channel. Ultimately though durability, went to ride today and noticed something seemed wrong with it, looked more closely and the rails had buckled just behind the seatpost mount, slightly lopsided, about 2mm "depression" on the worst side. There had been no problems before my previous ride, and no crashes, so no apparent reason other than just I must have plopped down firmly on it (I ride mostly XC, no significant drops of more than a foot, which I take out of the saddle anyhow usually)... so I quickly pulled my recently purchased Koobi Enduro off my roadbike, put that on, and went for a 2 hour ride. The difference from all previous rides was night and day, I literally didn't notice the saddle the entire ride, and not a trace of numbness or any form of discomfort... I knew I wanted to replace parts on the bike as they wore out with better ones, and the saddle was on the list for when it "wore out", but it was a bit of a surprise to see the rails bent like that, but I'm glad it did, I'm happier to know that the Koobi works wonders on my MTB as well!
It worked for awhile, adequately (better than my old road bike saddle), but after repeated adjustment attempts, never could get rid of some level of numbness issues beyond about an hour of riding (would stop or just stand on flat parts whenever possible to alleviate). Bending of rails under less-than-strenuous conditions surprised me highly, especially without a related crash or some other event to account for it. I did have the seat adjusted fairly far back (mounted towards the nose end of the rails), but within the limits (at the front limit). I do weigh 220+-, so I realize that even "moderate" stress from me is a lot (which is why i purchased a burlier frame than I'd have liked) but again, no big drops or anything I can remember about "slamming" into the saddle, they just somewhere along the way didn't like my weight. If you like the BG but don't totally love it, try the Koobi Enduro, (give it about 5 test rides to break it in), you will thank yourself for it. I'll give it a decent value, for someone lighter it would probably be a better deal
Similar Products Used: Ancient Selle on my roadie, new Koobi Enduro
Bike Setup: Stock Specialized Enduro, about to see significant new season upgrades on most of the parts.
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: October 27, 2003
Strengths: Very reasonably priced and light, bought it on sale at www.specialized.com. The seat felt kind of too stiff at first, but actually feels great once after the firmness is get used to ( after 2 or 3 rides ). No numbness whatsoever. Easy to slide back and forth when climbing and going downhill.
Weaknesses: Poorly constructed. After less then a season, the rails got twisted off the seat after a minor fall. I can bend and force the rails back into the place but they pop off again easily. Trashed it.
I believed the hollow middle design is great, at least for me. I guess saddle comforts varies from person to person. The firmness others dislike actually worked very well for me. But this seat is so poorly constructed and didn't even last one season. Maybe specialized have fixed that problem now but I think I will try something else. I switched to a WTB speed V and it feels great too, lasted two seasons and still going. I think I will stay with the hollow middle channel type design when I need to buy another seat.
Similar Products Used: Stock "too soft" seats from my trek and giant. WTB Speed V (good).
Bike Setup: The seat was on a Trek 4300.
a Cross Country Rider
from Bear, DE
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2003
Strengths: Well constructed, very light considering it looks so big. And comfy for short and long Mt. rides. No break-in process either.
Weaknesses: Can't seem to find any even after 2 1/2 years.
I played the seat game so many times and wasted so much money looking for that durable yet comfy Mt. seat. This is it and I wouldn't change it for anything. This was perfect right out of the box. I use the Gel Pro model on my Road bike and this one on my Mt. bike. Specialize makes some great products and I would certainly recommend them to anyone. Of course don't get me wrong they do make some bad things too, but this isn't one of them.
Similar Products Used: Selle Italia Ti Gel Flite, Fizik Pave, Specialized Gel Pro '03 and a bunch of no name brands not worth mentioning.
Bike Setup: Klein Attitude Race, Rolf, Easton, XT, Azonic, Chris King, Panaracer, Sid Race it's a nice setup.
from South Shore, MA
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2003
Strengths: has held up good for 2 years no rips.
Weaknesses: OK for shorter rides, Quite heavy look at the comp from the back of the seat and you will see why ...the cusion on top of the V is too pointy
The saddle has held up well but I need a saddle that will be good for those long rides with NO numbness. OK for shorter rides, but when I ride for 4 hours or more it makes me numb...which gets my wife mad...we can't have that now. Last week I rode a 40 mile training road ride (2 hours) and got numb around mile 30. Not good on the indoor trainer either. When you get numbness shooting up your thing It is not too easy to concentrate on much else. Enough goes wrong on the bike, I do not need that too. I believe I am going to get a WTB Laser Ti I have heard good things.
Similar Products Used: WTB SST, SDG Bele Air(Ouch), San Marco
Bike Setup: Cannondale Scalpel with carbon extras and those egg beaters ;-)
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado Springs, CO, USA
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2002
Strengths: The saddle is firm and the rails are strong. The rails are marked with measeurements.
Weaknesses: It doesn't make me any faster!!
I like this saddle much more than the stock piece of plywood I had. I used to ride and feel it for days in my bum. Now (I'm not going to say all is well), but the pain goes away quicker. I guess I should just ride more. I like this saddle. Not worth the $100 retail, but gladly worth the $30 Ebay bid.
Similar Products Used: None. Had a cheapy stock saddle before.
Bike Setup: '96 Schwinn, front shock, hard tail
from Medford, Oregon
Date Reviewed: April 22, 2002
Strengths: Looks, price (it was on $ale).
Weaknesses: UNCOMFORTABLE! After all the hype with the "Body Geometry" line. somehow I expected more from this saddle. It's a "scrotum squeezer". The raised rails seem to align perfectly to each nut. After only 2 back-to-back rides I was left very saddle sore, not to mention the side lettering started to come off. Poorly crafted.
Similar Products Used: SDG, Bontrager FS2000 and Race.
Bike Setup: Specialized Stumpjumper
Date Reviewed: February 8, 2002
Strengths: Good shape and feel. A lot better than my old saddle. No numbnuts.
Weaknesses: A little firm.
This saddle is a great value, considering that I got it in a bargain bin for $30. However, I would not pay the 100 bucks if this one got busted because 100 bucks is pricey for a hard saddle. The saddle has taken most of the other soreness out of my ride.
a Weekend Warrior
from Bogota, Colombia
Date Reviewed: December 4, 2001
Strengths: Little numbness. Light.
Weaknesses: Terrible shape on the rear. It actually is double puncher; one for each nut. And a plyer on the center too. Poorly constructed. It goes apart very easily. It stores lots of moisture. If you wash it, you'll feel like sitting on a curd, even after a week.
What were designers thinking? It's better to stay away from it. Literally.
Bike Setup: Klein hardtail with umpteen thousand miles.
a Cross Country Rider
from Atlanta, GA, USA
Date Reviewed: September 24, 2001
Strengths: Colors and original leather
Weaknesses: Weak construction. Weak Plastic. Rails too flexible, not designed with confort in mind.
I am giving this saddle one flame because it is the minimun I can give it... After just seven months using this saddle the plastic base flexed so much that the rails went of the anchorin base (needless to say that it is impossible to put it back again). The plastic in the base shown signs of stress. The highly publicited "Body Geometry' is just an advertising claim, because such a design does not work with every body
If you plan to spend money in a good saddle and you appreciate your guts, don't throw your money on this model.
Strengths: no numbness what so ever on my 15th mile all i wanted to do was stand because whatever bones sit on this bike seat hurt but no numbness
Weaknesses: this thing hurts if it's your first time
dispite all the pain involved in the 15th mile of cross country riding my nuts are not numb, sure my back bone hurts but i still have feeling down there. i recommended this seat for those who are about to start a family but if that is not a concern i'm sure there are more comfortable seats available.
a Cross Country Rider
from Sacramento, CA
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2001
Strengths: Upgrade over OE saddle. Comfortable on flats.
Weaknesses: Poorly constructed. The "S" sticker came off a couple weeks after I bought it. (That's ok, I have a lot of other "S"'s on my Specialized already). Saddle rails flex. Seat flexes.
*I am reviewing the first year of the body geometry seat - 99?* The first time my father rode this saddle, he described it as feeling like a medieval torture device. My opinion wasn't that bad - HOWEVER, this saddle is poorly constructed (read above). The literature claims that this saddle shifts more weight away from the kids. I do know that once I got this saddle I started to experience back pain. It's a comfy saddle, but still leaves me numb. Also, the split rear hurts your chest when you have to ride behind your seat and makes it difficult to get back up on the saddle. Saddles are a personal thing, so maybe this one wasn't for me . . . this wasn't from lack of trying to make it work. I have a WTB Laser now, and it is TONS better than this saddle. Better in every category. You can get a really good deal on this saddle pretty much everywhere now . . .
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