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Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Wolfeboro, NHDate Reviewed: August 21, 2004
Strengths: Has worked fine for 3 years.Weaknesses: Not the smoothest thing around.Bottom Line: Bought my bike as a leftover in 2001, and have put over 1000 miles on it... I've had to replace a few parts, but the headset does its job without a hitch. I overhauled the bike last week, and noticed that the lower races were quite worn, as well as the bearings. Come February (rebuild), I will be looking for a new headset, but I think that this one has done pretty well for the beating it has taken. Not the best, but not as bad as some people have experienced here...
One thing: the lower bearings seem to be over-exposed to the elements. They rust if you don't look after them.
Favorite Trail: All of 'em
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: Came on bike
Bike Setup: GT Avalanche, 2000.
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Rhodri
from South Wales, UKDate Reviewed: August 14, 2003
Strengths: Still going...Bottom Line: Just to say... there seem to be different Tioga Alchemy headsets - different models and different years...
The black one that came with my '98 Kona Lavadome has lasted and lasted...
...I've greased it once since I've had the bike.
It's still here, and I still don't notice it(which is a good thing! I've never had a problem). Once it's come loose after some pretty hard riding(for me anyhow).
These are now available from cycleshopsmart at £7(british pounds. If I can make sure it's the same model on my bike, I'm going to buy another one for a new bike I'm building.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
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theodore
a Cross Country Rider
from melb, australiaDate Reviewed: June 16, 2003
Strengths: well...Weaknesses: looks dirty...
and doesn't look anything like the pic...in fact it looks much older and even more useless.
bit heavy.Bottom Line: i have not greased/maintained it for 5 years, and have ridden it hard. numerous enduro rides, xc rides, even a few 2m drops
still going fine.
all it took were 3 taps with a mallet to get it out.
i'm changing it over to another 2nd hand bike i just got which has a crappy unsealed diatech headset which is already feeling like crap.
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Similar Products Used: plenty. including crapper ones on more expensive bikes than the one i got it on.
Bike Setup: mongoose D50. i currently have a giant AC and don't really feel the difference in smoothness between the tioga and the giant's integrated cane creek.
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RIder
a Weekend Warrior
from San Gabriel Mtns, CADate Reviewed: January 7, 2003
Strengths: Keeps the fork somewhat centered in the bike's head tube.Weaknesses: Flimsy, don't keep out dirt, apparently made from old Pepsi cans.Bottom Line: I gently rode with this headset (threadless Aheadset design) for about six months. I decided to replace my fork and bought another identical headset for the new races, etc. As I was removing the old headset, the lower race practically fell out of the head tube- it was cracked all the way through. This is a wonderful way to quickly damage a frame. The upper race had its microscopically thin plating worn completely off, and the bearings were running on the substrate metal. There were flakes of plating filling the grease on both the top and bottom bearing cages.
After a single ride with the new headset, the plating was already flaking off.
This headset appears to be made of recycled Chinese pot metal. It's not worth damaging your bike's frame to save a few dollars. There may be some low-priced headsets out there that are worth buying, but the Tioga Alchemy is not one of them. After seeing the second (brand new) headset start to disentigrate after a single ride, it isn't even deserving of a single chili.
As a side note, the bearings on both headsets were well packed with grease and the preload was adjusted properly.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$15.00
Bike Setup: GT Ricochet
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Philip
a Weekend Warrior
from Gainesville, FL, USADate Reviewed: November 3, 2002
Strengths: Cheap, strong for my weight (135lbs)Weaknesses: Seems to rotate inside of the headtube, plastic top cap almost pulled itself through the stemBottom Line: This thing is just fine for my purposes... I spun the bearings in circles to get rid of the paint on the contacting surfaces, then greased and rode. Has worked fine with the exception of the plastic top cap - the bolt nearly pulled through the top cap. A spare top cap at the LBS was given for free, so it's all good. No problems so far, and I doubt I'll ever need to replace it without breaking something else.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$12.00
Purchased At: ebay
Bike Setup: Fuji Thrill frame, Duke C fork, XT-DT hubs/spokes
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k. m.
a Cross Country Rider
from somerville, MADate Reviewed: October 24, 2002
Strengths: still works....Weaknesses: still works....Bottom Line: This headset wont stop working. it never worked very well, always felt like there were a few grains of sand in it and every ride for close to five years i have expected it to break, come loose, orjust plain fail...to no avail. The other headsets i ahve used are far superior in feel but i havent riddent ehm as long as the tioga. Granted this thing is a small piece of crap taht will in no way improve your riding nor protect your bike/well being...i have yet to have it break..ive done only one bout of maintenance on it...anyways, its like those old toyota trucks...you dont like them, but they just wont die....anywyas, im going to replace this one this season...enough ugly componenets on my bike....
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Similar Products Used: cane creek, FSA, Chris King
Bike Setup: hardtail
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Ronin
a Weekend Warrior
from South Bay Rules!Date Reviewed: July 12, 2002
Strengths: Price
DurableWeaknesses: Not sealed very well
So many damn piecesBottom Line: I think 3/4 of you people are talking about the threaded headset. I've got the Alchemy DL/S Aheadset and it's served me well over 5yrs without a single problem. I remember having to tighten it once to clear up some fork slop but other than the required maintanence intervals (lube), it has performed flawlessly. That's phenomenal considering I bought this for $10 from SuperGo about 5-6 yrs ago and have put it through hell and back and then hung the bike up for a year. The only gripes I have are the way it's sealed and how it falls apart when removing your fork. Both problems can be attributed to it's weird design. It's an open design that is pieced together unlike it's sealed bearing brethren which cost 20x more. This is of course due to cost efficiency (What did you expect for $10?) and has no effect on overall performance other than having to be lubed more frequently in dusty conditions. I've put alot of jumping and medium DH time on mine and it's held up to everything. It's not a DH or FreeRide item but does it claim to be? For the money you just can't beat it...literally.
Favorite Trail: RollerCoaster
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$10.00
Purchased At: SuperGo
Bike Setup: Nishiki Hardtail, Manitou X-Vert DC
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Jason Walker
a Cross Country Rider
from Halifax, N.S, CanadaDate Reviewed: July 25, 2001
Strengths: Looks Pretty BeefyWeaknesses: EVERYTHING!!!!!
Bottom Line: Someone please help us cursed people who have these headsets. I've been riding this on and off for a year, and was creaking and loose from day one.!! There is no way this product can really be this bad. I'm a mechanic and I've had this apart too many times changing everything race, bearings, bearing sizes, you name it. For those of you who may think that it's too old, don't worry, it did this from the day I installed it. If anyone uot there can figure out what we're all doing wrong please submit a review. It's so bad that I hate my KHS just for having it on the bike
Favorite Trail: Sackville Powerlines
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$20.00
Purchased At: the bike people
Similar Products Used: Dia-Compe Aheadset
Bike Setup: KHS Alite 4000
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Richard Cunnew
a Cross Country Rider
from EnglandDate Reviewed: April 15, 2001
Strengths: STAYS TIGHTWeaknesses: CREAKS A LITTLEBottom Line: I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SLAGGING OFF THIS HEADSET
BUT MINE HAS WORKED PERFECT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT WHATSOEVER.
IT CREEKS FROM TIME TO TIME BUT THATS ABOUT IT.
I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVING MANY PROBLEMS WITH IT, I AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES WITH ONE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.
FOR ME ITS AN OVERALL GOOD HEADSET THAT WORKS WELL IN ALL CONDITIONS.
Favorite Trail: anyting
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$10.00
Purchased At: with bike
Bike Setup: CLAUD BUTLER CAPE WRATH
XT
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Andrew Kirkpatrick
a Weekend Warrior
from NorthamptonDate Reviewed: October 8, 2000
Strengths: Has Bearings that sort-of moveWeaknesses: Made of plastic (don't know what the pic above is about but mine is 100% plastic), odd shape, utterly crap sealing (one ride in mud and the bearings are f**ked), cheap, weak...Bottom Line: This is approx £15, and thus shouldn't be utter crap. I have used a £2 headset and even that is made of metal! Never buy this in your life!!
Favorite Trail: Harleston Firs
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: On Bike
Similar Products Used: YST Cartridge
Bike Setup: Kona Scab, Z3 Long Travel, LX
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J.R. Johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from State College, Pa, USADate Reviewed: August 22, 2000
Strengths: Hey, Its a headset.Weaknesses: Every stinkin thingBottom Line: This is a piece of trash. It creaks real bad, the ball bearings fell out on mine and it finally broke from my riding and I'm only 115 lbs. JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK dont waste you money on this junk that doesn't.
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Purchased At: Stock on my bike
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Lupe'
a Weekend Warrior
from NYCDate Reviewed: August 15, 2000
Strengths: Last with little maintenance.Bottom Line: This headset came OEM on my bike three years ago. I just upgraded to a Cane Creek S5. While removing it I just realized I have never had a problem with this headset! I ride hard over rocky terrain with lots of jumps and drops and when I'm not off road I'm jumping off loading docks like a BMXer and this has never failed me. I only hope that my new headset performs as well considering it cost 8 times as much.
Favorite Trail: Van Cortland Park
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Bike Setup: Schwinn w/ LX/XT XC setup
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Michael
a Cross Country Rider
from Newark, DEDate Reviewed: May 3, 2000
Strengths: It has kept my bike togetherWeaknesses: leaksBottom Line: I've only put about 40 miles on my bike and the headset is already screwed up. The plastic cover cracked and I have grease mixed with metal oozing out of it. Part of the problem was probably the installation
Favorite Trail: Middle Run
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Bike Setup: '98 Yeti AS3 dualie with XT drivetrain and judy XC fork
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Dale Smith
a Cross Country Rider
from Canadice, NYDate Reviewed: April 8, 2000
Strengths: Easy to maintain, comes aoart relatively easy, strongWeaknesses: Looks cheap, wont stay tight all the time, doesn't seal out s$%tBottom Line: This is a cheap affordable strong all around headset, works well most of the time. If you take care of it,it will give yuo many years of economical service, JUST TREAT IT WELL.
Favorite Trail: Harriet Hollister Spencer Park
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Similar Products Used: dia comp
richty
Bike Setup: Mongoose a50r
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tommy
a Weekend Warrior
from woodside, nycDate Reviewed: March 23, 2000
Strengths: cost only $10Weaknesses: getting ridiculed from my friends for buying itBottom Line: So far i havent had any problems with the headset. The only bad thing that came out of it were my friends and the owner of my LBS who made fun of me for buying a $10 headset for a $2000 bike
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Similar Products Used: Aheadset
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