Great headset. It's on it's second bike now, making about 7,000 miles total. Only had to grease once. I ride everything from XC to AM and it takes it all!
If I could give it 10 chili's for value I would, I really can't see it failing. Save your money, this is all you need!
Weaknesses: Need to tighten top cap pretty tight to get it to stop knocking. Bottom race doesn't seal 100%, leaves about .5mm space.
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Nice headset for the price, Would rather pay a little more and get a quality part then spend 20 bucks on one that you will need to replace in a month. So far put about 600 miles on mine with no problems, just needs tightening every once in a while. But, I'm not easy on my bike. Sometimes hitting 3-4' drops. So I would recommend it due to the fact that it's not designed for that kind of use.
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urmb
a Cross Country Rider
from Over the hills and faraway
Date Reviewed: February 21, 2009
Strengths: Economical, maintenance free, smooth, tough at least for XC.
Weaknesses: None
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I built up my favorite pony with this headset in 2003 and now, 10155 spring, summer, fall, and winter miles later, not one problem now or along the way. It has never leaked grease either.
Similar Products Used: All types over 21 years mountain biking
Bike Setup: Which one
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ceejayvee
a Cross Country Rider
from uk
Date Reviewed: October 30, 2008
Strengths: CHEAP, DURABLE, ULTRA LOW MAINTENANCE
Weaknesses: Lower bearing has dropped grease over the crown of my fork, I haven't regreased it but is still works perfectly (this could be the additional grease used when it was installed).
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Never had to maintain it in anyway, I may replace the sealed bearings after my five years of use, just for the hell of it.
The bike came with cup n cone, I got bored of cleaning it all the time. I didn't have the big money for a Hope at the time, so bought the XL until I could afford a Hope. The XL has lasted so well I haven't needed to replace it yet and am so pleased with it's durability I will only buy XL's in the future. Sorry Hope.
Bike Setup: Bianchi, Marzocchi MXC ECC, Hope XC/Sapim Race/xm317, LX train, XT Discs, RF post n bar, On-One stem
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tom
a Weekend Warrior
from uk
Date Reviewed: June 4, 2007
Strengths: Simple, cheap and light headset with sealed cartridge bearings.
Weaknesses: None so far...
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Good reliable headset that has had far more abuse it deserves. Much stronger than its construction and weight sugest and its still running smooth even after a whole UK winter in the saddle. FSA need to source bearings from somewhere and it sounds to me like some people have had bad experiences with seals being out of tolerance. Not so with mine, I wish i'd have bought another one of these before forking out for a hope on my other bike
Similar Products Used: Various other FSA headsets and hope.
Bike Setup: 05 coiler, sherman fireflys, ex729's bulbs etc etc
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tom
a Weekend Warrior
from uk
Date Reviewed: June 4, 2007
Strengths: Simple, cheap and light headset with sealed cartridge bearings.
Weaknesses: None so far...
Bottom Line:
Good reliable headset that has had far more abuse it deserves. Much stronger than its construction and weight sugest and its still running smooth even after a whole UK winter in the saddle. FSA need to source bearings from somewhere and it sounds to me like some people have had bad experiences with seals being out of tolerance. Not so with mine, I wish i'd have bought another one of these before forking out for a hope on my other bike
Similar Products Used: Various other FSA headsets and hope.
Bike Setup: 05 coiler, sherman fireflys, ex729's bulbs etc etc
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Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, ON. Canada.
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2007
Strengths: Well priced, nicely made, quality machining, very smooth and uses sealed bearings.
Weaknesses: None found yet.
Bottom Line:
The cane creek A71 headset on my KONA Cindercone lasted for two years before the whole thing turned into a big rusty seized mess. I didn't want to spring for a Chris King so I did some looking in the product review area and found that the FSA Orbit XL II was well rated, reasonably priced and fit my application. A quick search on eBay netted me a sweet deal. This is a very nicely made component from FSA, the bearings are completely sealed and provide for a nice smooth rotation. If you're looking for a nicely priced, good quality headset I would highly recommend you give this one a look.
Similar Products Used: Cane creek VP-A71 (OEM on my KONA)
Bike Setup: '04 Kona Cindercone with lots of upgraded parts (Mavic XM317 rims, Fire XC Pro 2.1s, '06 Marzocchi MX Comp ETA fork, WTB Rocket-V saddle, Avid Ti Speed Dial brake levers, Thomson seat post etc, etc.)
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Daniel
a Cross Country Rider
from Spokane, WA, United States
This is a SMOOTH headset. Everything is sealed so dirt does not get in. It is also fairly light. I would recommend this to anyone. Why spend $100+ for a Chris King. Lets face it. Headsets rarely brake or malfunction unless you are abusing them. This one will last FOREVER.
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Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Victoria, BC
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2006
Strengths: Super smooth, fairly light, no maintanence
Weaknesses: None so far
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This is a great headset for the money. No problems thus far and is still as good as new. This headset has been in pooring rain, snow, mud, you name it and none of it gets in. For the price, I don't know if you can get a better headset.
Similar Products Used: Other open and sealed headsets
Bike Setup: TST Ti hardtail, Marzocci MX Comp ETA, FSA Orbit XLII, Thompson hardware, Shimano drive, Crankbrother Candys, Chris King Hubs, Mavic 717 rims, etc
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Kevin
a Weekend Warrior
from Lincoln, NE
Date Reviewed: March 7, 2005
Strengths: Great headset. Good value.
Weaknesses: None
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The cane creek i had on the monocog started to loosen itself and i was getting a lot of motion in places where there shouldn't be. The Orbit XL II is super smooth and it works great, no more unwanted movement.
Bike Setup: Redline Monocog Singlespeed, LX cranks
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Jon
from Grand Rapids, MI
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2004
Strengths: Price, smooth, sealed bearings
Weaknesses: none
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This thing is extremely smooth, light, and is very inexpensive compared to other headsets. So far had no problems. Its 18$ at bikeco, but only comes in blue, which works for me. Good product.
Bike Setup: Fisher Marlin, bontregor stem, Race Face Next carbon bar
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Submitted by
Cliff
a Cross Country Rider
from Las Vegas
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2004
Strengths: light weight, good design, price, slide-on crown race
Weaknesses: Same as my post below, Conex, bearings/grease
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As a follow up to my previous post on Orbit XL II, here's a little more info on another headset in another bike. Actually I have been building bikes for awhile and run 4 mtn and 1 roaddie (need to break down and sell a couple). When I saw the Orbit's Mtbr reviews and the price at bikeco.com late last summer, I decided to order a couple of them, one of which I reviewed below. The second one went into a Y-bike (small frame/URT) - front end has SID XC, Mavic 517 32h, 3x, 14/15 db DT Swiss. This bike I ride on ocassion but gets most of it's use by a friend who is 55lbs lighter (130lbs) and rides somewhat less aggressively than I. She takes it a lot easier through the rock gardens and I figured that the headset would be fine. For initial installation, had LBS knock out the old cups, check the headtube (was OK), and press in the Orbit cups.
No apparent problems but I decided to pull it apart and check the "sealed bearings". Although it had no squeeking or clicking sounds, both bearings (same sealing label/# as below posting) had tossed a whole lot of grease. Cleaned, repacked and reinstalled and so far it's OK but really not getting that heavy a use. Then I pulled the S-6 bearings out of the Dakar and the S-2 out of the other Y-bike ( large frame), there was negligable grease leakage and both sets seem to be OK. If the Orbit's hold up with the new grease (TREK synthetic with teflon), would be great.
By the way, I called FSA and their customer service guy was outstanding. Said the conex equipped Orbit sets were discontinued several years ago and the Conex didn't fit some steertubes. Didn't know of any problems with weak bearings. Also, said for wet conditions (n/a here in Mohave desert), try a premium grease like the Phil Wood waterproof stuff (I found at Cambria $5.00) which I will do anyhow next time I pull them apart. Can get new Orbit bearings through LBS, but no bearing upgrade available. Recommended that the FSA Extreme Pro might be needed for the rock garden poundings. Probably good advice, but these Orbits should be holding up a lot better. Value and Overall ratings go up for the customer service; and I still suspect that these r not the "normal" Orbit II quality bearing sets/grease packing because of the other reviewers comments and what the other brand sealed bearings looked like after similar use.
In this bike, bearings should have looked like new after the more limited, lighter riding - but don't want to hurt the ratings unfairly; just get some info out. If anyone knows of a steel/stainless steel bearing set that will fit, please email me.