Submitted by
pete ride bikes
from harwinton CT 06791
Date Reviewed: March 6, 2005
Strengths: Its an awesome headset, i went through a few bottom bearings on it but thats regular, i suggest greasing the bearings often if its unsealed.. Sealed headsets are great but the sealed bearings are known to blow up or break if you case a jump pretty hard. But if you get the King headset its a lifetime garuntee. I have the FSA pig UNsealed and its great
Weaknesses: bottom bearing gets shot but that happens on all headsets
Bike Setup: hoffman loyalty, pitchfork, fit crank, T1 disc, FSA unsealed,Odyssey hazard lt in front, primo hula hoop in back, odyssey brakes, s&m bars, primo wall&demolition trail slayer in rear, dk stem, primo grips, kmc chain, you probably didnt need to know all that but i like reading about what other people have on their bikes so maybe you do too
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Submitted by
John
from Virginia Tech, Blacksburg
Date Reviewed: October 5, 2002
Strengths: Review for FSA Pig DH Pro:
OK, if you haven't already figured it out, I'm a BMXer. I ride a very customized 2000 S&M Sabbath flatland frame, all repairs except cup pressing are done by me, and I know the frame a lot better than most guys know their girlfriends. I tend to be rough on headsets and parts in general. I do plenty of front wheel tricks and my 170lbs of husk coupled with a 40lb bike coming off of ledges (good landings, bad landings, what have you) tends to create a lot of strain. I also run a Gyro rotor unit, and need a headset with a SMALL upper cup that is capable of fitting into the main bearing unit's inner diameter. Hence, Chris King headsets and plenty of others were out of the question. FSA's DH Pro fit my bill - I was looking for a headset that was around half the price of a King, had sealed bearings, worked with a Gyro, and wouldn't have to be serviced annually.
I ride without hands 90% of the time and do several no handed trick variations so not only am I able to closely assess a headset's merit, but having one that is reliable and precise is essential! To the mountain bikers out there, my bike is chromoly 4130 and spends most of its time on paved terrain. I don't ride in the rain and rarely come in contact with dirt, grime, and mud, so if this sort of dexterity is what you're looking for in a review, you won't find it here :)
I have always been a loyal Dia Compe customer; in particular, I love their AD-990 U-Brakes and believe they surpass many similar models in quality and feel. Needless to say, I was somewhat apprehensive of trying out FSA, a relatively new company in my opinion. At this point in time, FSA's website bears little to no information regarding their hardware as it is currently under construction, and not many of my friends ride with their products. So I had to go on word of mouth from the honest guys at East Coasters, and several customers who happened to be innocent bystanders at the time I decided to start firing off questions.
The qualities of this headset became clear after I put my steering unit back together. From ride one the sealed bearings proved themselves unsurpassingly smooth. The steering characteristics were not too heavy in turns and not loose enough to be over-affected by speed. Comparable, I'd say, to a Dia Compe Aheadset after getting broken in from its initial packing and a proper tensioning via compression. Granted, my tastes in bearing tension is an opinion and results depend heavily on how one sets up their headset unit. I know that this headset's review is intermingled with other FSA models on this site, and many users haven't given it the full 4-5 star rating it deserves for this reason and the fact that its Conix system doesn't seem to be receiving much praise. I wonder why more riders don't use I-beams (headlocks) in place of the star fangled nut. I think I-beams make setup and adjustment a heck of a lot easier than star nuts, and enable the headset unit to remain tighter and more resilient to beatings.
Some quality features of this headset include: Huge chromoly lower cup (approximately 5mm more rise than a normal Dia Compe Aheadset) Brass compression ring (not plastic) Smooth sealed bearings! Dashing good looks
Weaknesses: None discovered yet
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I love this headset. I suggest you buy one if you don't want to hawk out the $ for a King. I recommend this product to BMXers in particular, since I know nothing about mountain biking, and am experiencing its benefits on my trickbike. Sealed bearings are great, and if this unit lasts me 5 years I'll buy another one in a heartbeat.
Similar Products Used: Dia Compe Aheadset SX-1, SST...beat both up pretty badly with pitting, etc.
Bike Setup: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/atan/sabbath.htm
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Submitted by
Aaron
a Weekend Warrior
from Richmond, BC Canada
Date Reviewed: September 8, 2002
Strengths: This is for the Pig DH Pro - Great Price, Strong as hell, smooth operation, looks great, ummmm did I say great price???
Weaknesses: None so far, well maybe the weight but only racers need to worry about that.
Bottom Line:
Some people say this headset weighs too much. I'm not a competitive racer so a couple grams here and there doesn't mean all that much to me. I can buy 3 of these for the price of a King headset and I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two. It's a great headset, especially for the amount of money it costs. Every store in the North Shore area sells it and recommends it.
Bike Setup: Kona hardtail with XT, LX, FSA headset, Bontrager saddle, Psylo XC's, Avid SD-7 V-Brakes, Sram, Panaracer, etc... (next year I'm getting a Cove G-Spot!!! oh yeah)
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Submitted by
Konacopia
a Weekend Warrior
from L.A.
Date Reviewed: September 3, 2002
Strengths: Smooth action Cheap price Durable
Weaknesses: Heavy (Who cares?) Lower race is a tight fit
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For the money, you can't beat this headset. It gets the job done and you never notice it's there which is good for an area of the bike that most of us neglect anyway. Most would argue that it's a bit on the heavy side but I'd trade a few grams for strength any day. This item wasn't intended for the XC crowd, besides you would never be able to take full advantage of it's strength. I did have a bit of a struggle getting the lower race onto the fork steerer but it doesn't matter because whatever bike the Z1 goes onto, this headset will be sure to follow. This one was built for the DS/DH/DJ set and doesn't fail to live up to its specified intentions. For the price of a "Rip" King, you can get 6 of these but you'll never have to. Save yourself a hundred bucks, get one of these and save yourself from the Heaven's Gate cult that is Chris King.
Submitted by
Bryce
a Downhiller
from North Vancouver
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2002
Strengths: -Cheap -Strong -Simple -Functional
Weaknesses: -Cups not deep enough to help prevent ovalizing headtubes
Bottom Line:
In the time I've used this headset it has outlasted 2 DH frames and it never saw even a second of maintenance. I totally forgot about it until it started to ovalize my current frame. This is a dependable headset for all around riding but if you tend to ovalize headtubes you should look for something with deeper cups (ie Chris King). The Pig DH is a good headset but it is not tough enough to desrve the name "Pig DH". Keep it on the uphill bike.
Strengths: The tapered needle bearings in the lower race.The grease port and serviceability.CroMo lower cup;long engagement length.Precision upper bearing.Looks like a quality piece.Half the price of "name brand".Isn't it always?
Weaknesses: Just installed and unridden,so?
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Just received new frame,wanted to upgrade headset.While I haven't used it yet,I think only an technoweenie/goofball would pay more.What's the deal with headsets?It turns,but it doesn't spin,so how good does it have to be?By the way,I'd recommend a good mechanic to install it(like myself),and take the stem,so they can install it correctly and possibly re-cut the steerer.
Bike Setup: 2002 COVE Stiffee,5" 2000 Z-1 QR20,Rhino Lite/Rhino Lite XL,Formula/XT hubs.HMX-1,Monkey-lite bar.
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Submitted by
Matt
from Spokane WA
Date Reviewed: February 24, 2002
Strengths: This is for the Pig DH Pro. I put it in, I rode on it and I forgot I had a headset.
Weaknesses: Heavy, but all good things are heavy.
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I was a little nervous buying a headset that weighed this much and was a little cheap but the damn thing is awesome. Ive never had a problem with it, it never comes loose like Aheadsets do and its buttery smooth goodness. BOMBER
Bike Setup: 01' Kona Stinky. All the flashy parts, raceface cranks, hayes hydros, z-1 QR20, big meats..ya get the idea
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Submitted by
David M
a Racer
from Toronto Ontario Canada
Date Reviewed: January 10, 2002
Strengths: The Pig DH was designed to be bombproof... well I have put mine through hell and its fine... if it were to blow up, I wouldn't care, it only cost me $20. This headset performs better than a race face real seal, and cane creek. I can't compare it to a Chris King headset because I've never been stupid enough to pay for one...
Weaknesses: Havn't found one yet
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But this headset if you've never tried it. Once you try it you won't ever care about your headset ever again! I wouldn't even post a review unless a product has totally blown me away!
Bike Setup: 24 Pornking, Z1 qr20, wicked components....
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Submitted by
jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from phoenix, AZ, USA
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2001
Strengths: THIS IS FOR THE FSA ORBIT DL Cheap Light Durable Nice Colors
Weaknesses: Umm...The included sticker doesn't stick well
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I had this installed nearly a year ago, and about a month later i moved from the desert here to college in california. i didn't have time to overhaul it for the past year and subjected it to lots of dust, urban jumping, rough rocky singletrack, RAIN, stream crossings, and the like. I just took it apart today to clean and everything is still in good shape. There were no signs of wear, so i cleaned it and slappe some grease in and it's good to go for another year. Those seals may look cheap but they do a damn good job of sealing the headset. I can't think of a better bike deal than this headset. By the way, for those that care, i took the advice of other reviewers and DID NOT use the conix star-fangled nut replacement.
Similar Products Used: Tange, Dia-Compe, Ritchey, El Cheap-o Crap
Bike Setup: 98 Specialized Rockhopper, practically nothing stock
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Submitted by
jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from phoenix, AZ, USA
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2001
Strengths: THIS IS FOR THE FSA ORBIT DL Cheap Light Durable Nice Colors
Weaknesses: Umm...The included sticker doesn't stick well
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I had this installed nearly a year ago, and about a month later i moved from the desert here to college in california. i didn't have time to overhaul it for the past year and subjected it to lots of dust, urban jumping, rough rocky singletrack, RAIN, stream crossings, and the like. I just took it apart today to clean and everything is still in good shape. There were no signs of wear, so i cleaned it and slappe some grease in and it's good to go for another year. Those seals may look cheap but they do a damn good job of sealing the headset. I can't think of a better bike deal than this headset. By the way, for those that care, i took the advice of other reviewers and DID NOT use the conix star-fangled nut replacement.
Similar Products Used: Tange, Dia-Compe, Ritchey, El Cheap-o Crap
Bike Setup: 98 Specialized Rockhopper, practically nothing stock
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Submitted by
Mateusz
from Canada
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2001
Strengths: Smooth.
Weaknesses: The head cap is pretty weak.
Bottom Line:
Good headset, no major problems. Had to replace the head cap once, yes it was a pain in the a$$, as I hate replacing parts due the weakness in materials. Overall though the headset is fanstastic, smooth, bearings are durable. Easy to install.
Similar Products Used: The review is for FSA orbit extreme.
Bike Setup: Custom made Cro fram, Z1 drop offs, XTR, XT, LX components
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Submitted by
Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from Indianapolis
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2001
Bottom Line:
Orbit DL: This is a solid headset. caged-bearing headsets don't get any better. If you're not a DH or trials rider, you probably don't need anything more. I've put thousands of miles on this headset, and never had any trouble. I usually clean and repack every couple of months, or as needed after a really sloppy ride. (Keeping the bearings packed in clean grease is ESSENTIAL to proper function of ANY headset)
Top cup and race have a small enough gap to eliminate the majority of particle/water contamination, and the bottom cup and race have a rubber seal that does the same.
If you're going to ride in really dusty conditions, you might want to invest in some lizard skin (or equivalent) headset covers.
If you're going to ride your bike underwater, plan on repacking your headset when you're done. (And that will be the least of your maintenance worries...)
As for CONIX: Anyone who has problems with conix failing needs to tighten their stem. All the top cap is meant to do is take the play out of the bearings during the assembly process. A properly tightened stem can handle any load you can put on it, even if you remove the top cap totally. (That's why DiaCompe can get away with using a polymer top cap on their cheaper models)
**For those who are interested in actual numbers: If you have two 6mm bolts on the stem tightened to 20 ft-lbs each, it would take in the neighborhood of 60,000 lbs of force to move that sucker. That's the equivalent of a 200 lb guy jumping off the edge of a 982 foot cliff. Or a 200 lb guy running into a brick wall at 172 mph. If I do either of those, I don't care what happens to my bike...
Bike Setup: GT Pantera, Manitou SX-R, Sun CR-18 Rims
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Submitted by
Aram West
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2001
Strengths: Looks, durability, smoooooofffffneesss
Weaknesses: parts, needs attention
Bottom Line:
I bought an FSA Orbit for a BMX bike, it was threaded etc. Threw away the conix thing IMMEDEATELY (sp?)!! I bought it because it was cheap and blue and it looked pretty cool. I got an indestructable needle bearing headset. This headset has been a dream and I wouldn't trade it for a Chris King. I have broken three forks now, of my own fault, but the headset is still strong. In the Pacific Northwest we see some of the nastiest rain and mud anywhere, this thing holds up! Use a regular star nut system to hold the stem down and everything will be just fine!
Submitted by
mad max
a Weekend Warrior
from northampton
Date Reviewed: February 5, 2001
Strengths: put in and forget smooth as a bay backside looks cool
Weaknesses: nothing as yet
Bottom Line:
put and walk away know u will have no problems for a long while does the job and that s abotu all u need and no problems to setup apart form the conix but that is just me i cant do those new fangeled ideas
had resort to my mate put it in but he is got with bikes so not for those have no patient