The Shimano Saint Assembled Hydraulic Disc Brake Set uses a dual-piston system for increased power and modulation when it really matters. Years of R&D and testing by pro freeriders like Thomas Vanderham have led to a totally dialed system. These breaks provide up to 50% more power over older Saint versions, so you won't worry about arm pump when you drop into the steep. Whether you're pinning a DH race run or need something to stop your big freeride bike, you can count on this pre-assembled syst
3)Easy to Bleed
4)Lack of brake fade
Weaknesses: 1)The metallic replacement brake pads tend to squeal like a pig
1)I've been using the same set of Saint brakes since June of 2009 and only a month ago did I have to bleed the brakes. I probably ride roughly 30-35 bike park days per year and shuttle at least once per week. I've never experienced another brake that I've never had an issue with. Just replace the pads as you ware them down and you are good to go. If you do run into issues, I've found there is usually a Shimano tech at most West Coast races and they will not hesitate to get you sorted out. SRAM may lead in the warranty replacement department, but that doesn't help you if they aren't at the race.
2)The Saint brakes are the most powerful brake I've ridden. There is no fade as you go down the hill. OK, maybe there is a little, but compared to other brakes(Avid Code, Elixr, older Hayes offerings, etc) there isn't any fade. Most of the trails I ride are 15+ minutes of DH, so this makes a big difference to me. The power allows you to easily and consistently one finger brake which reduces arm pump and stress on the rider. I also can lock the brake out when I want to or just slow down without skidding. It's like the jack of all trades.
3)These brakes are extremely easy to bleed. If you can't figure it out, you have no business owning a mountain bike. All you do is put new mineral oil in at the top and old fluid flows out at the caliper. There is no fancy bleed kit or special tools necessary. It's just plain easy.
1)As said above, the metallic replacement brake pads from Shimano tend to squeal like a pig. I've fixed this by using the organic pads. A con of the organic pads is that they deliver a bit less braking power according to forum nerds and ware out a bit faster than their metallic counterparts.
2)This isn't really a negative, but the rear brake cable is very long. If you are lazy like me and never cut your brake cables people will look at you funny.
In summary, these brakes have made me a Shimano fan boy for life. The Saints are everything one could possibly want in a brake and more. 5/5 stars
Similar Products Used: Juicy's, CR Mags and Hayes way back
Bike Setup: SC VP-Free
a Weekend Warrior
from Zürich Switzerland
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2011
Strengths: I am a 250 pounds athletic guy and I have never owned such reliable brakes. Great modulation and no fading. I also have much less brake pad use than with other brands. They stop me on a dime.
Buy them and you will not regret - for met the best bikes on the market - great power and no hazel!
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: February 6, 2011
Strengths: Power, modulation, ease of use... Oh, and let me mention POWER!
Weaknesses: Price posted is retail. You can do better. Either way, it costs to play with the big boys...
These aren't cheap, but they are worth EVERY PENNY! Insane power, great modulation, all weather beasts.
These brakes are sick. Conquer East Coast nonsense and West Coast baller trails with ease. Only downside is the cost to play with serious brakes. Nothing else could play in this ball park. Anyone that tells you these are TOO MUCH BRAKE are just a bunch of haters...
Similar Products Used: avid code tektro aurigra pro
Bike Setup: umf freddy 2 boxxer world cup, marzocchi roco
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2010
Strengths: Power, looks, never fade! I have a set of these on my hardtail and my dowhill bike. I have used hayes and various avid brakes and they are not a patch on shimao saints! Once you get used to the power of these you wont want to use any other brake!!
Weaknesses: The standard pads in these are rubbish! Yes they are powerful but because they have a slight amount of play inside the calipers they squeel,howl nd vibrate like hell when under serious load. If you buy these brakes also buy a set of Goodrich Sintered pads to go with these. They have zero squeel and are actually more powerful than the standard shimano pads.
Great great brakes, just ditch the crap standard pads and get the goodrich ones which is the only reason why I havent given these and overall rating of 5/5. Dont beilve the total rubbish about modulation. They just feel different to the norm and people dont like change do they!!!! Once you get used to the way they feel you'll love them.
a Weekend Warrior
from Reno, NV USA
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2010
Strengths: Excellent full-range modulation. Easy pull for lots of power.
Weaknesses: None yet. Oh, wait... they don't come with rotors.
They give me the best skid control of any brake I've ever used. The last brake I used was a pair of Avid Codes, which were very good brakes, when they worked. The issue with the Codes, and I didn't really know it until I upgraded, was that they really didn't modulate very well in the 50-100 percent range. You know how some brakes are great in the 20-30-40 percent range and then, it's all the way to 100? All I can say is that the Saint 810 brakes allowed me to tap into that unfamiliar range and I like it!
Oh, and they are very powerful.
And they are so easy to bleed. All you need is a piece of tubing. Far superior to the crazy adapter/syringe set-up that Avid uses. And if they are anything like my old 960XTR series brakes, the ones I bought new back in late 2002, you won't need to bleed them often, as they just seem to keep working and working.
3 days of riding on them, rediculous power. i had to relearn how to brake with these brakes. you can brake very late into a corner and scrub just the right amount of speed. modulation is incredible on these you can really feel when the pads start to engage the rotors. pad contact and lever adjust work very well also.
plus they look bad ass!