The ProStop™ 2 features a red anodized CNC-machined Positive Retraction Caliper, pre-staged, complete with pre-stressed cable housing.
Product Weight: 480 g
Submitted by
Josh
a Cross Country Rider
from CA Date Reviewed: July 30, 2002
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Purchased through M.C.
Strengths:
Trouble Free, good modulation, great power, nice levers
Weaknesses:
weak lever clamp screws, hard to bleed properly the first time.
Bike Setup:
XTR, Thompson, WAM Disc Wheels
Bottom Line:
Once you get past the frustration of the initial bleed they work great. The key is getting the last little air bubble out. If you have a mushy brake, poor modulation etc. - they are not completely free of air even if you think they are - they're NOT - try again!(you must cut the ends of the lines PERFECTLY square!!!) Once this is done they work great. I don't know about everyone else but when was the last time you bled the brakes on your car? How about never? Why would you need to bleed the brakes on your bike? It's a closed system - once they're set up PROPERLY they work great. Once I got mine set up properly they have worked fine ever since - going on 3 YEARS!!!! With all that said they do have their weak points like: miniscule clamp screws for the levers, noisy when wet (although what brakes aren't), heavy, hard to set up, etc. ---- There is always a trade off between products!! These brakes are perfect for someone who likes to tinker around with their bike and has good mechanical know how. Otherwise have someone who knows what they are doing set them up for you.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Downhiller
from Montreal Date Reviewed: April 5, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
online somewhere
Strengths:
-Top notch CNC craftmanship. Everything was made so well. -Big strong, floating rotors -Nice short levers -Cool transparent brakes lines (where you can see if you have air bubbles...refer to 'weaknesses')
Weaknesses:
-Their stupid when it comes to bleeding. You always end up with air bubbles somehow. -They don't like the cold. They start to feel sluggish when it's just above freezing.
Similar Products Used:
-Hayes hydro with 8" rotors on my DH bike. -Test rode Magura Julies on a buddy's bike.
I'll never get over how well these brakes look and how well they were made. They're solid, comfortable, and the craftsmanship is out of this world. They feel pretty good if they're bled well. BUT...
They suck when it comes to bleeding!! You think you did a good job but you always end up with air bubbles somehow. You follow the bleeding directions to the letter and still it f**cks up on you. Plus, there's a problem with the bleeding instructions. You need the caliper bleed screw facing up but if you do that, the bike is almost upside down because of where the bleed screw is. It's just weird. I didn't pay a lot so I don't feel ripped off but still, I might end up switching them sooner or later. It depends on how much patience I have left.
Final opinion: They're 'ok'. I don't think they'll ever be better than Hayes but I'm still testing them. I think the real test will be when I put them on my DH bike to see how they compare to Hayes.
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Submitted by
Robert
a Weekend Warrior
from The Great White North Date Reviewed: February 15, 2002
Favorite Trail:
DasBoot (Thanks Karl)
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Great Modulation Pretty BIG BIG BIG Easy to Maintain
Weaknesses:
Stores dont stock parts!!!
Similar Products Used:
Hayes Magura Hope Shimano Avid Blah, Blah, Blah............tried em all!!!
Bike Setup:
MC Shockwave, Hanebrink LT-8, XTR, Raceface, Chris King, MRP, DeeMax
Bottom Line:
Sure they need to be serviced often but so does a Ferrari......If you want the good stuff be smart enough to learn how they work and how to work on them. When all else fails call the boys at MC and they will fix you up. When your nice to them they are nice to you!!! Great Brake.....better than the rest.....why buy a KIA (Hayes) when you can own a Ferrari??? Love them so much, I just bought a set for my other bike!!! The best frames on the planet!! Mountain Cycle all the way....!!!!
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Submitted by
Chris
a Downhiller
from Montreal, Canada Date Reviewed: January 17, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
This guy I know...
Strengths:
-Solid levers, well built levers -Solid calipers -Big thick rotors -floating rotor system -they just look different from everything else (which I like) -powerful
Weaknesses:
I can't really say much in this post...I just got them and there's a foot of snow outside so I gotta wait.
Similar Products Used:
Hayes full hydro with 8" rotors front and rear
Bike Setup:
For the prostop brakes: 01 Trek Bruiser, Marz Z5 5" travel, big rims that came with the bike and the prostop brakes, truvative cranks, little chainguide...not much else since it's a hard tail.
Bottom Line:
Like I said above, I can't say much on how these brakes will work. I heard they stop like crazy!...but are a pain to play around with...we'll see. I'll be comparing them to my Hayes and if they suck, I'll still have the Hayes to fall back on. But so far, I was really impressed on the sheer size of the hardware compared to Hayes. The levers are really solid (and gold!) and the lever blade is nice and short (unlike Hayes which pi$$es me off). The calipers are 4 times the size of Hayes and are gold!! I love that! The rotors are twice as thick as Hayes. So far they work really well in my basement. Although there's one thing that got my attention, when at full stop and holding down the levers, the wheels have a tiny, tiny bit of forward and backwards play (that's from the floating rotors)...it's normal but the brakes would suck for trials riding. Anyways, I'll put up another post in the spring. So far, very good! Plus I got a stupid, killer deal so I don't feel ripped off if they're not as good as Hayes.
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Submitted by
Billy Goat
a Weekend Warrior
from Hills of Cali Date Reviewed: November 19, 2001
Favorite Trail:
the steepest one
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
mountain cycle complete bike
Strengths:
Look burley. Lotsa stainless allen screws. Cool plastic cables. Pimp color gold just like the rims on my Cadillac Eldorado. When they're working they stop you faster than Britney Spears on a first date. Made in Cali like me:)
Weaknesses:
Bleed em, ride, bleed em, ride, strip bleed screws, ride, replace bleed screws, bleed em, ride. Some pits on the discs gotta be filed down. Giant calipers are attracted to immovable objects, ouch! Screeeeeeech!!! when wet. Made in Cali like me:(
Similar Products Used:
Mandy Moore at her Jr. High prom.
Bike Setup:
San Andreas, Hanebrink LT, Race Face, XTR, Thomson, Huffy, Pacific, Royce Union etc.
Bottom Line:
I've never been able to dial them in so they don't leak, squeak, and tweek. Am I a mechanically challanged idiot? Probably, but that's beside the point. I spend more time working on these than riding on them. I must say that when they do work, they're rockin like Don Dokken. Maybe I'll get em dialed one day and be as happy as Bret Michaels at a spandex convention, but I doubt it. Sorry Mt. Cycle (Rob et al), nice job on those frames, though.
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Submitted by
Dan
a Downhiller
from God's country! Date Reviewed: December 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
brandywine
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
used
Strengths:
Real nice modulation, not grabby at all. great
Weaknesses:
Not too impressive stopping power, BIG rotor gets whanged on everything you ride near, makes little noises from floating rotor, need eight fingers to make a panic stop, (I only have eight fingers, two thumbs, how about you?) Constantly needs adjustment. Boo.
Similar Products Used:
many other discs
Bike Setup:
fsr dh wit' all the jinglees
Bottom Line:
For the price you pay for the brakes (I got 'em used, so it doesn't count) you don't get much brake. I can buy dh specific hayes for a hundred bucks less, and won't have to fiddle with 'em nearly so much. I got a screamin' deal on 'em, so I dont feel ripped, but I would not have payed the retail!!! In the end, I sold them with the bike. Next season I will be running either hayes, or hope.
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Submitted by
Peter
a Weekend Warrior
from Hong Kong Date Reviewed: December 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Modulation, Stopping Power, Looks, Floating disks, Great levers.
Weaknesses:
Like the reviewer further below says, the adjustment screw on the lever 'strips'. The floating disks are a mixed blessing. On the one hand they don't warp, and even if they (or the rims) slightly do it means you don't get as much drag as fixed rotors. But on the other hand they make quite a lot of noise 'rattling' about. Not much of a problem, but those who like to cruise in 'stealth' mode should take note. Actually, the REAL problem that I have faced is the rear Pro Stop hub.
Similar Products Used:
XT, XTR and SRAM 9.0 Vees, Hope 4 pot, Shimano XT Disks and Hayes.
Bike Setup:
MC San Andreas DHS, King headset, XTR cassette, BB, derailleurs rings and crankset. DX pedals. Boxxers front, Risse Terminator back (no where near as good as Stratos which I blew).
Bottom Line:
I've own/owned a number of bikes and brake systems. I don't 'demo' it, I use it so I can say that whatever I may say is from an unbiased opinion on what I experienced. Now, the Pro Stop ties with the Hope in terms of performance. The Pro Stops are in fact beautiful things to use and own. But unfortunately the hubs (at least the rear one) do not do justice to the disks. If you own or have seen them you can see that they are TINY as compared to Hope Fat bulbs and the like. Of course there are hubs the size of the Pro Stops such as the XTR's but they are much much smoother. In short, I've used this particular hub for just under one year. I freeride/downhill whenever I have the chance and jump anything sane at sight. My hub just simply gave up and my 'freewheel' became just that - a freewheel. My other hubs I ride just as hard and they've lasted 2 years or more. I would have liked to think that this was a freak thing, but if I was asked if I would buy another one of these hubs then I would have to say no.
Value rating 4 Performance rating 5 Deduct 2 for the darn hub.
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Submitted by
Bruce
a Downhiller
from Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: June 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
North Shore
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
When they are set-up, whoa - they stop. Good support if you call George Dubois directly.
Weaknesses:
If you don't phone George Dubois directly, take a number and wait and wait and wait...
Buy lots of hydraulic fluid. They need to be bled a lot. Not a peice of cake to bleed, but nothing you need an engineering degree for.
They howl like nothing Ive ever heard when they are damp. Don't need to let anyone I coming , they hear my brakes for miules around. (Hard to say I didn't dab the brakes on a fall-line!)
Would I buy them again? Probably not considering what is on the market, and what is coming.
Similar Products Used:
Any high-end hydraulic disc brake.
Bike Setup:
Mountain Cycle 6"; Bomber Z1 5"; Race Face crank, stem, bar, XT drive, Mavic D321 rims with Maxxis High. Rollers
Bottom Line:
Seems like you can get a great set or a problem set.
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Submitted by
Tico Kinkade
a Racer
from San Diego, CA Date Reviewed: June 6, 2000
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Great modulation, pad retraction, low drag system. Easily adjustable. When set up properly (like anything) they work better than anything I have ridden (hayes, magura, hope, coda, etc). Call or e-mail George Dubois for detailed and proffessional directions and tips at mountaincycle.com.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
hayes,shimano, hope, coda, magura
Bike Setup:
correctly
Bottom Line:
The best full hydraulic disk system - High quality/Low price
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Submitted by
George D
a Downhiller
from California Date Reviewed: June 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
tunnel
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Power, baby! Power! And Modulation. (None of that "on or off" crap.)
Weaknesses:
?
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, Coda, Magura Louise
Bike Setup:
MountainCycle ShockWave, Answer XVert Carbon, White Ind Hubs
Bottom Line:
OK, the first time I set these brakes up, it was difficult to figure out what I was doing. (Mostly what size wrenches to use.) BUT... Once dialed, they are the bomb! Never had bleeding problems. Make sure everything is tight. (Good test is a dusty trail, any weeping oil will make dust stick.) ProStops work the way breaks SHOULD work. Squeeze harder=more braking power. It's called modulation. Something Hayes should look into. And, they pads actually grab the rotor, unlike a CODA or Magura. That's my beef, anyways. Couldn't be happier with these brakes. Best thing about disc brakes-> They work in the rain and mud!
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Submitted by
Ken Marsh
a Downhiller
from Mass. Date Reviewed: February 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
One I can ride right now!
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Don't want to be nice so I won't!
Weaknesses:
Little screw on the lever to tighten to the bar strips and you can't tighten it enough. Mt. Cycle/Pro Stop has terrible support for the customer. If you contact them they will not call you back! I know, I've been dealing with them for 6 weeks to get the parts I need to fix my full hydrolics. I will list a few of the problems I have had with them. They are more interested in international sales and getting out their orders instead of ours! The American guys that bought them and got stuck in the first place need parts! Hope you don't order their stuff from over seas!!!! HA HA!
1) Five times I have had to replace the piston in the caliper. They must be defective and Mt. Cycle won't admit it. They break if you let the travel exceed a minimal amount. IE: If your pads wear down 25% or more then the piston comes out of it's retaining socket making the return spring not work. Then the brakes drag. 2) Mt. Cycle/ProStop will not replace the bushings on the disk because they wear out to quick. You have to buy them! Mine wore out in one month then I decided to make my own. I am a Mech. Engineer, I hope everyone who owns these brakes is an M.E. 3) Mt. Cycle/ProStop was nice enough to send me a replacement bleeder kit but it took two months and I had to call the support and they admitted their direction sucked. They talked me thru the process and it was totally different. I suggest that all user obtain a M.E. degree. 4) I ordered two t-shirts from Mt. Cycle and they sent the wrong ones, and the wrong size. 5) Iordered a custom seat from Mt. Cycle and they didn't even send it. They must have lost it also. 6) I talked to the President Robert R. and he said they were busy with international sales. Were at the interbike show and couldn't get out the products. The show is for a few days not two months. 6) Broke my frame and they actually sent me a new one. Said it nevr happened before and I talked with a local dealer and he says it happens all the time. 7) Forgot what number I am on and could care less what Mt. Cycle thinks of me but I do have to say that I love the bike and ride it hard. Hope it doesn't brake again.
Similar Products Used:
All
Bike Setup:
San Andreas All Race Face and XTR
Bottom Line:
Try to avoid like the flew! Get Hope or Magura!
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Submitted by
Kuba
a Downhiller
from Warsaw, Poland Date Reviewed: September 25, 1999
Favorite Trail:
smieciara, Myslenice, SzklarsaPoreba
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
-modulation -design -they don't overheat -you don't care about the weather conditions -they work... -Have I mentioned the modulation ?
Weaknesses:
-you've to bleed'em every couple of rides -modulation (you've to squeeze the lever realy hard) -color (gold is cool 4 gangstas, not 4 riders)
I'm a bit confused...These brakes are supposed to be superior but I found (with no difficulties) couple of things I do not like. I had some troubles when trying to attach'em to my SuperV. Their modulation ca be described as an advantage or disadvantage, it depands on your taste. Anyway, I like them and I'm not going to change'em...
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Submitted by
kingy
a Downhiller
from south australia Date Reviewed: July 31, 1999
Favorite Trail:
rockdale
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
great modulation
Weaknesses:
need to be blead after every couple of rides
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
shockwave
Bottom Line:
great brake system but be ready to blead them every couple of runs
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Submitted by
Geoff
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore Date Reviewed: June 10, 1999
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
The stopped the bike......
Weaknesses:
A major leage pain in the ass to set up A bigger pain in the ass to keep working Willing local support in Sigapore but ZERO technical help from Pro Stop...
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Hekler Z1 Bombers Cane Creek Ad10
Bottom Line:
Wasted a BUNCH of $$$$$$$$$ in the end got sick of the need to tweak and bleed tham after evrry ride and went back to Rim Brakes. Unless you have a trained prostop engineer as a good freind stay WELL CLEAR OF THESE............ t
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Submitted by
Mat Perkins
a downhiller
from california Date Reviewed: March 8, 1999
Bottom Line:
I run these barkes on my dh bike and they work incredible they are far better then any brake I've ever used before!!!I have yet to have a problem with them and I've had them for about a year and ride every day. I bleed them once when I got them and that's it, they are maintenence free!!
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Submitted by
Kert
a cross-country rider
from Calif Date Reviewed: November 6, 1998
Bottom Line:
Xclent product, wouldn'd use anything else !! Use them on a 8.6 San Andreas front and rear and they stop superb on those huge long fast downhills. Easy to maintain too. I'm using synthetic ATF for the hydraulics.
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DAN TEH MAN
a racer
from COSTA MEXICO CA. USA Date Reviewed: July 11, 1998
Bottom Line:
I HAVE HAD THESE DISC BRAKES FOR A WHILE NOW. THE REASON I GOT THEM WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD FIT ON MY MTN. CYCLE. THEY HAVE GOOD MODULATION. lET ME SAY THIS IF THEIR WORKING YOUR IN GOOD SHAPE BUT IF THEIR NOT YOU SCREWED!!!!UNLESS YOU HAVE MTN.CYCLE NEXT DOOR TO FIX THEM GET HOPES THE MAKE A UNIVERSAL ADAPTER NOW THAT MIGHT FIT.
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Submitted by
paul
a cross-country rider
from Stockton, CA Date Reviewed: May 24, 1998
Bottom Line:
So why is a guy with a hardtail running a disc brake? Long story. No complaints in the stopping category, of course, and the modulation is incredible! A truly high performance system. I do find that I need to bleed it after about seven rides, though, which is a pain, 'cause it can start going spongy on you during a ride, and you can't figure out why you're riding like a 'tard until you realize you're pulling the lever to the bars and still not braking hard. But that's hydraulic stuff for you, eh?
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Submitted by
corwyn
a downhiller
from nh usa Date Reviewed: April 30, 1998
Bottom Line:
damn good brakes for the money!heavy but work,biggest disc i've seen of any disc brake system.set-up is as easy as pie.did i say they work?have tried just about all disc brakes these are the best?they work!squeeze lever bike stops, thats it,no adjusting after every ride like most of the others(i won't give names {rock-shock and magura}so overall a good brakeing system for the rear.
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