I have been using the very sweet Louise Carbon BAT brakes for just over three months, and they have turned out to be my current favorite stoppers. They are powerful, with good modulation, are quiet, fade resistant, highly tunable and have the bling carbon levers. The Louise Carbon is designed and manufactured in the fatherland Germany (actually in Laichingen), and for 2010 the Carbon’s come in a nifty race white finish. Continue reading →
a Cross Country Rider
from West Chicago, IL USA
Date Reviewed: January 29, 2011
Strengths: Magura produces quality products! Good modulation, love the ability to dial in the pad contact. Easy set-up. Had to shorten rear line and the on-line video in combo w/the manual made it a snap. Mounting and adjusting the calipers much easier than my earlier Hayes brakes. Carbon lever adds a little bling as well. Get the later model with the easy bleed technology. I had to bleed the rear brake after shortening the line and it was extremely easy to do!
Weaknesses: Light brakes compared to many on the market, but not as light as the Marta's.
Great brakes for xc and trail riding. Sweet modulation and adjustability. Would definitely recommend them!
Similar Products Used: Hayes 9's, Strokers, and Avid Juicy's
Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Chameleon, Reba Team Fork, Magura Louise BAT brakes, Stan's ZTR355 rims, Kenda Small Block and Slant Six,DTSwiss 240 hubs, Noir 3.3 crankset, Crank Bros Candy SL pedals, Sram X-9 triggers, X-9 derailleur, Thomson X4 stem and Elite seat post, Noir Carbon Bars, Fizik Gobi XM saddle
Strengths: Power, modulation, feel. You can setup it light with Ashima Airotors.
Looks! Magura Louise Limited Edition (2008 model) in white!
Weaknesses: Lever is designed for pianist! If you adjust the levers to be closer to the bar - free travel of the lever will increase two times. Not actually designed for big guys in the mountains - can be easily overheated
Outstanding brakes by all means. BUT, if you're a big guy like me (110 kg), try brakes with DOT. I have made them fade two times in the mountains, and it's not what i have expected at all. But my complains are not for light riders.
Maybe problem of overheating can be solved with Ventidiscs of Hope Floating rotors, braided hoses and light caliper adaptors. Will try this automn)
Strengths: arrived ready to install, i installed and shortened the hose with ease, way easier than vbrakes just make sure you order a new insert for the hose as you're bound to need to shorten it...the reach adjustment is great and the feel is great
Weaknesses: none yet
the best brake i've used, haven't had it long so looking forward to the durability assessment
a Weekend Warrior
from chatt, tn. u.s.a.
Date Reviewed: September 3, 2008
Strengths: everything worked great untill i bled them.
Weaknesses: front brake bled fine, rear never took even after half a dozen bleeds...!
when i recieved the brakes they had about 10ft of hose on both front and rear. its pretty easy to cut hose to desired length once without having to bleed, but i had to a second time which was terrible! the front brake bled just fine, the rear never took. i bled them by the book nearly 6 times with the same result every time. major mess! no clean way to really go about it either. these were for my single speed, so i just opted out for some bb7's, keep it simple! this review is for the 07 model.
Strengths: stopping power
I have the non-carbon, '07, BAT version with 8" front and 7" rear rotors ('07 package deal).
For Juicy's these rotors would be overkill for trail riding. But these brakes modulate so well that you can finesse the trails and still get stoppage when the ride goes downhill. Look at their website for rotor size recommendations and riding style. Pretty much spot on.
QUIET, even when wet.
Set-up from '07 model on is easy. Like most other modern disc brakes just squeeze the brakes then tighten the calipers. Shortening the hose was a snap too, and did not require bleeding (me or the brakes) afterward.
Like the Juicy 7's, these are adjustable for reach and contact point.
If you can find a good price on the '07's get 'em. Still the solid, single piece caliper housing.
Very pleased with these brakes so far. I opted for these over the Juicys and Hayes Strokers. Glad I did.
4 stars for value as they are expensive unless you opt for last year's model.
a Weekend Warrior
from Boise, Id
Date Reviewed: June 28, 2008
Strengths: Excellent power, light weight, great adjustability, and they look awesome
Weaknesses: Carbon levers may get scratched
Best brakes I've ever owned. Stopping power is second to none, and the BAT adjustment is amzing. In the future I will upgrade to larger rotors, currently running 160 front and back. No complaints what so ever. Good brakes to finish off your all mountain rig or light enough for a XC racer. Could probably even use them for Downhilling, they're that powerful.
Similar Products Used: Magura martas, Hayes HFX-9, Avid Juicy 7's
Bike Setup: GF Fat Possum
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin, TX
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2008
Strengths: Stop on a dime and so far maintenance free.
Weaknesses: Unexpected nose-wheelies on decsents
Love these brakes. Now I feel stupid for not upgrading my brakes when I was racing. With a weight of 200lbs I have more momentum than most, but these brakes could care less if I weighed 120lbs. I have suffered through numerous issues with my bike but these brakes are not one of them. Nothing like high performane parts that require high maintenance but these lack any maintenance.
You want to walk into a LBS on a Saturday morning and get instance service? Mechanics spot these from a mile away and are happy to work on your bike. With my Reba shock getting me in two different shops too often they always spot the brakes and ask how I like them as they drool.
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2007
Strengths: Great Build Quality, 5 year leak proof warranty, High Power, Excellent Modulation, Lever Adjustment, Reliability and Ease of Set Up. Oh yes and they're SUPER QUIET! :)
Weaknesses: Doesn't look as 'Bling' or 'Pimp' as some other brakes.
Okay, so these brakes don't look as cool as others, but hey, they work brilliantly. I honestly can't fault them. I should add that I have them in 180/160 flavour and wonder why anyone would want more power than a 160 on the rear wheel. I could go to a 203 ventidisc on the front but I'm trying hard to reason why as the 180 has enough stopping power for me (I'm 100kg). I didn't/haven't endure any problems installing them aside from making sure they're aligned properly. Once the pads had worn in I found that I can do superb 10ft 'Stoppies' and also lock the back wheel at will. These brakes have beautiful modulation...their 'feel' is what makes the whole package work for me. Braking power's nothing unless it's controllable. It's going to have to be a brake and a half to get me away from these beauties.
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: June 15, 2007
Strengths: Good weight, good power, ease of installation, modulation.
Weaknesses: Lever reach is uncomfortable and I have some pad drag.
Good brakes with plenty of power and feel. The installation was straight forward and adjustments have been fine. Some pad drag is annoying but I am still experimenting. As another reviewer said the lever throw is a bit of a distance.
Similar Products Used: Hope M4, Magura Louise, Shimano Saint and XT.
from Duluth, Ga, USA
Date Reviewed: May 13, 2007
Strengths: Serious stopping power, Great modulation, No noise or pad contact, Decent weight.
Weaknesses: None, really. The lever is quite a reach, but after one ride you get acustomed to it.
Decided that I wanted to switch my cockpit from the Shimano XTR m960 dual control to Sram X.0. I need some new brakes and just read the MBA review of the new Magura Louise BAT's. I decide to go with the 180's venti front and rear. I threw them on and went straight to Moab and Durango for a week of thrashing. I tested them on the greats: Porcupine, Colorado Trail, etc..... They absolutely blew my old XTR's away. I aways had pad contact, noise, inconsistent power, and trouble setting up the XTR's. The Louise performed perfect and lived up to the MBA's review. I love the endless power and adjustment. They are a little pricey, but if you take your gear seriously and test the limits of your bike then buy em'!
Similar Products Used: Shimano XTR m960, Magura Julie
Bike Setup: 06' Santa Cruz Blur LT, 07' Fox DHX air 5.0, 07' Fox Talas RLC, Mavic Crossmax SL's, Kenda Nevegals, Thompson stem and seatpost, XTR Cranks, X.0 Shifters and rear derailleur, Crank Brothers Candy SL, XTR front derailleur, Oury lock on grips, Easton Monkey bar
a Cross Country Rider
from Albuquerque, NM USA
Date Reviewed: November 25, 2006
Strengths: Awesome stopping power, easy to setup and install, no noise, excellent modulation and the BAT works extremely well
Weaknesses: Some slight pulsing when light pressure is applied.
Although I only have the Louise BAT without the carbon, these brakes are amazing. They have all the stopping power I could ever want and they are so easy to set up and adjust. The modulation is fantastic and they were ready to go right out of the box. I was a bit concerned that 203 front and rear would be too much brake for my XC and freeride style but I have come to love the power on demand that these brakes provide. I highly recommend these brakes to anyone who rides aggressive XC trails or loves to freeride.
I'm getting some mineral oil leakage from the piston/plunger area where the lever meets the reservoir. Any ideas on how to find replacement parts?
I haven't had luck getting in touch with magura to get this sorted out...Read More »
just purchased a set of magura louise bat carbon brakes recently and shortend the hose for both front and rear. did not bleed, worked fine! went back over the weekend to shorten them some more and lost alot fluid so i bled them. the front went fine, but having major problems with the rear. before i ... Read More »
Of course I'd like to say I broke my left brake lever doing some insane stunt but the truth is I took a spill on concrete and wiped out. Of course, the rest of the bike is fine because all the force went right to my left carbon brake lever, which promptly snapped.:madmax:
The only pla ... Read More »
I recently bought a pair of 08 Louise BAT Carbon disc brakes 180/160. I have had several problems with them and need all the help I can get. You should know that hose shortening, installation and bleeding were not done by me but from good bike technicians. The bike is a Giant Trance with ... Read More »