The HopeTech X2 replacesThe Mono Mini usingThe newly designed flip flopTech lever and X2 caliper. Several features include split clamp, bearing pivot and bite point adjustment knob. BothThe caliper and lever are CNC Machined in Barnoldswick, England of 2014T6 Aluminum Alloy.This is a perfect brake for all mountain, aggressive XC or light freeride applications. Features Wide angle hose fitting allows for easier hose routingBearing lever pivotFlip-flop, split clamp lever designDrip free bleed nipp
Looks awsome especially with the hope caliper mount.
Weaknesses: The bare aluminium finish looks great but it is also very sharp around the edges on the levers.
I used a pair of these for my XC bike for about 7 months and regretably sold them along with my XC bike. They came bled from the box and I didn't have to bleed them since and they felt exactly the same when I sold them as when I got them new. There are some really nice touches like the bite point adjustment and lever reach knobs which are really bulky so you can operate them while wearing gloves. Currently have a pair of avid juicy carbons and they don't hold a candle to the hopes it terms of quality and feel. The X2s were so good i've decided i'm going to buy a pair of M4s for my new AM bike :).
Strengths: power-weight ratio. great modulation. pretty look and feel of the lever. care free and consistant.
im running 2011 tech x2 for rear on my nomad carbon with 8inch floating rotor and it is awesome. i do everything from grocery shopping to gnarly hike a bike in pemberton on my nomad and x2 on rear does everything very well. i was worried about being underpowered with my freeride oriented riding style but i can least say as a rear brake, it works flawlessly on xc, all mountin to even freeride bikes. i switched from riding avids ( elixir cr and code) and differences in modulation and feel between avids and hopes are huge. avid feels stronger but hope feels as though it has more useful power. i much prefer the feel of hope.
Weaknesses: Howls like a screaming banshee when any moisture is present but what brake doesn't
I have been running the Hope Tech series for about 4 years now. I have been thoroughly impressed with the durability and beauty of thee brakes. I'm currently running the X2 special editions on my Jet9 with 185mm front and 160mm rear floating rotors. I'm never at a loss for power and the lever feel allows the most delicate modulation of the brakes power. I can't say enough about the installation and performance of these brakes. They are worth every penny.
Similar Products Used: All the Avid line and the new Shimano line
Bike Setup: Niner Jet 9
a Cross Country Rider
from Berkeley, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: February 4, 2012
Strengths: Extremely well designed and produces. Top quality components, very solid, nothing flimsy. Fully rebuildable. Very tight feel, clean and consistent action. Plus no fade even on long multi-mile all-mountain downhills. Love the full CNC machining.
Weaknesses: As one reviewer pointed out, the master cylinder stick outs and gets slightly in the way of down-shifter lever. But the solid design of the brake lever is well worth working around this minor inconvenience. The brake pads could be a tad longer providing more surface area for braking friction, but Hope thinks a longer pad makes no difference and just adds weight. Will explain below.
Did some serious research before buying these brakes. What I wanted was a brake with excellent power, very tight feel, no fade, and with pistons in the caliper that don't stick. The brake I was comparing to was the XT as this brake is quite good and basically meets these criteria. People complain about an on/off feel and the grinding noise of the pads on the rotor of the XT and I will address this in terms of what I have learned about hydraulic brakes.
Stopping power is a function primarily of these factors: the leverage of the brake lever on the master cylinder, surface area of the pistons in the caliper, the friction between the brake pad and rotor (pad type) and quality (compressibility and flex) of components.
The design of the brake lever determines that amount of force transferred to the master cylinder. Combining this with the diameter (surface area) of the caliper pistons yields the total force that is applied to the brake pad. Most XC type, 2-piston brake systems are very similar in the amount of force they apply to the brake pad, such as Hayes, Shimano, Hope, Formula, Avid, etc. Hope explained to me that the force from the pistons are the main stopping factor not brake pad length. However, adding extra pad length does provide more surface area for friction, so it must have some, if minimal, effect. Now speaking of pads, the largest contributor to stopping power appears to be the brake pad. I have found tremendous differences between not only types, but brands. The Shimano pads are what creates the on/off feel of their brake. Different pads, different feel. In terms of fade, this appears to be essentially a function of brake quality. Flimsy design and parts leads to parts that flex and compress with the immense force put on them and by heat generated from use.
In the end, I chose Hope because they as super well designed and built, and the cost is more than reasonable for the quality. The XT brakes work very similarly, but are no where near the quality. Highly recommend!!
Similar Products Used: Avid Juicy, Shimano XT 785, Avid BB7 with a variety of different types and brands of pads
Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Superlight with Fox TALAS 140 fork, Shimano XT drive train with Hope BB, Hope/DT wheels, Kind Shock dropper post.
a Cross Country Rider
from Vallejo, CA USA!
Date Reviewed: July 21, 2011
Strengths: Specifically rating the Hope Tech X2's 183mm "floating" Front rotor / 160mm "floating" rotor
Front 183mm floating rotor = 147g, Rear 160mm floating rotor = 102g, 268g (rear caliper, hose, master cylinder) 257g (front caliper hose, master cylinder, 49g front POST adapter w/ bolts, 34g rear IS adapter w/ bolts
Bling factor for sure! The machined calipers & master cylinder bodies are works of art. Product craftsmanship is top notch. It's great to see machined aircraft aluminum is still being used & can keep up with all the rampid carbon impregnated plastic stuff riddling the market now.
The break in period was pretty quick, within one 3 hour training ride. Once the rotors were bedded in, braking was 1 finger! Wow, I have never felt lever modulation like that on these X2's. SMOOOTH lever actuation, butter smooth.
Weaknesses: The master cylinder body is big, requiring you to make do with a slightly different shifter position. Though this isn't so much a weakness as it is more something to deal with.
I had to do some grinding to the front POST mount adapter to stop the rotor from skimming across it. 2 minute modification.
I already covered many of the great strengths of these brakes. I was running 160mm rotors front & rear on my 29er. I wanted more power from the front & decided to go up to a 180mm front. This was the opportunity to try another braking system. My wife is English so I decided to try Hope's since they're from the motherland to the US.
Braking is confidently 1 finger. Power comes on smoothly & is very controllable. I really love the 2 knobs on each brake lever. First you set what Hope calls their Bite Control Point, which sets the amount of initial lever travel before pad to rotor contact. Once that's done the other dial sets the lever distance for the bar, which is individual to each rider. This can actually be done while riding if you're the type to fiddle with settings during a ride.
Man, if you've never considered Hope as a brand, take it from my experience, these should be on every rider's radar. Oh, the hoses come long. It's super easy to trim them & you don't need another olive to do this, as all the original parts are reuseable. Hose trimming is a 5 minute job, max, per hose. Easy! Hope has several tech videos demonstrating this procedure, as well, as the bleeding, which also looks much easier than Formulas were.
At about $220 per brake F or R, the price of entry isn't too bad. They're not the lightest brakes on the planet, but they are very adjustable, Modulation is awesome!, servicing is super easy for the home mechanic with basic skills, braking power is Great & they look cool.
Similar Products Used: I've run XTR M70 brakes, Formula Oro Puros, Formula K24's, Avid's, & Hayes. The X2's a bit heavier than the Oro Puro's, also the R1's for that matter, however, these brakes look sturdily built = confidence inspiring.
Bike Setup: Titus Fireline 29er, XTR M970 3x9 drivetrain, Mavic CrossMax 29er, Eriksen Ti post, Fizik Antares VS saddle,
Specialized Fast Trak LK Control's F&R, KMC X9 SL Ti nitrided chain
a Cross Country Rider
from Fort Smith, Arkansas, USA
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2011
Strengths: Excellent modulation. Easy setup being flip flop. Looks. No fade thus far. Adjustment. Setup videos online-easy setup. Did I mention the FEEL!!
Weaknesses: Expensive but what isn't. A little noisy when wet.
Great brakes. Leaps and bounds better than my elixir's. A friend has a set as well and his feel just the same. I have never felt two avid's that were similar. I was having all sorts of problems with avids-no modulation, poor adjustment, etc... Hope fixed all of those problems. With floating rotors the price is actually reasonable. Lots of tech support so dont worry about setup. Well built and all parts are available. If you have ever tried to find brake parts you will understand. Being able to easily find a replacement brake levers and other vital parts easily is worth a million. Compatability with shifters could be an issue. They work well with my x-9 but others could be a problem. If so they make a adapter to help out. Could not be happier...oh you can get all the anodized parts in Color!
Weaknesses: price, and can be challenging to setup.
Well if you want bling for your bike, then these are the brakes to get; they look great and work even better. Unfortunately they are far from cheap. Also I strongly recommend watching videos on hope's website on how to centralize the caliper, if you are doing the install.
a Cross Country Rider
from Roanoke, VA
Date Reviewed: March 14, 2011
Strengths: Looks, ease of setup, POWER!
Absolutely a fantastic brake set. Once properly bedded, the stopping power is fantastic, even for me at 225#. I do a lot of fireroad climbing and descending, as well as singletrack, and these guys simply perform, with no fade or NOISE! Avid users will certainly appreciate this. 5 flaming plantains from this clyde--nice work Hope!
Bike Setup: GF Rig singlespeed, Stans Flows/Hope SS hub, Ikon tires etc.
a Cross Country Rider
from New Forest
Date Reviewed: February 24, 2011
Strengths: Great looks, Solid, Easily serviced and blead.
Weaknesses: Expensive and heavy for the power. Needed bleeding out of the box and need regular bleeding. Not very powerful.
They may be easy to bleed and service, but then they need regualr bleeding to keep them working at full power and even then they have never been very powerful. They seem to get air in during cold weather. Needed bleeding right out the box from new. I have tried various pads to try and find more power, but now I'm replaceing them with Shimano XTR.
Similar Products Used: Hayes Sole, Hayes HFX, Hayes Stroker Trail, Shimano LX, Avid Juicy.
Bike Setup: Burls Titanium Singlespeed, Nuke Proof carbon forks, Hope Pro2 hubs with Mavic UST rims, XTR cranks.
a Weekend Warrior
from London UK
Date Reviewed: January 3, 2011
Strengths: Solidness, Chunky, Powerfull
Weaknesses: Although i love most of the great CNC work why did they forget your knuckles with that sharp bit? Wether it cut me or not at all doesn't matter=i don't like it!! Shifter placing could be better!! At first brakes were fine for 2weeks till suddenly my floating saw started making odd creaking noises so checked over it n maybe put the outer back in better place by flexing it very lightly? it did it again though 2months later, so i sorted simply again but it just pissed me of so now just bought a plain solid Hope saw or light KCNC disc instead which im about to test!! Noisy in the wet!!!!
I love the power in these brakes n they dont fade!! I like the fact their still just silver CNC'd, But the problem with Hope designers like many designers is they could even be rocket designers that can CNC etc with quality but do they ride bikes??? cos they forget basic simple things ie-Cutting the front of your fingers open, Gearlever fittings which we all dam need(Dooooh) etc!!!! like their rear hubs i use there bolts being total crap to?? So to all Engineers RIDE YOUR BICYCLES IF YOU ARE GONA DESIGN BIKE PARTS COS IM GETTING PISSED OFF WITH YOU GETTING CREDIT FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING BIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
Bike Setup: My own design Ti 24" BMX cruiser n cruiser fork made by Justin Burls! I run 6speed gearing and BMX stem and 5.75 bar setup with old XT thumbshifter, Saint cranks n rear derail etc
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: November 28, 2010
Strengths: No faid, exclt progressive feel, on the fly adjustment, put and forget product, easy to mount, bleeding is easy and simple, bling factor, light for the power.
Weaknesses: Don't come in red or black
both HT and Nomad running techs. Put on and forget product, which makes me real happy. Maybe not most powerful, but more than enough for my 215lbs, and they are mega smooth and progressive. Really happy with brakes and distrib service.
Favorite Trail: The ones with small uphills and big downhills
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Purchased At: Local distributor
Similar Products Used: avids & hayes
Bike Setup: 1- '10 SC nomad with X0, RF Sixc stuff, xmax SX, and magura wotan
2- '09 Seven sola, RF deus SL, xyclone disc, and X0
a Cross Country Rider
from Decatur, GA USA
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2010
Strengths: Seems bullit proof. Very shiny. Great fit and finish.
Weaknesses: ? cost maybe. But it works so well ..who cares.
The Hopes are hugely more functional than the Avids. It's possible other brakes have caught up to this kit but I doubt it. There may be a problem fitting these with some gear shifters but my bike's SS.
If there were a compatibility issue, I'd get new shifters. Hope are just that good.
Reach and bite point adjustment dials allow for ideal lever set up and feel. There is just an overall sense of tight, efficient design. If the fit does need adjusting, it can be modified on the fly so I won't have to abandon a ride in tears of shame and disgrace.
I just got the poly hose and there is no perceived loss of power. It seems the braided hose may be slightly heavier.
The set up was simple and predictable. It did take a while to carefully remove the existing Avid kit and rotors and get the new parts torqued to place. But everything went on predictably the first time.
During this process, I did find that my headset needed an overhaul. So that was fun detour. Now it's all set up and rollin.
I love good gear. Stuff that works and won't let you down is always worth the extra effort, time, expense, what have you. Reliable and predictable.
This makes for a much better ride with a solid bike and no mechanicals.
There are also very good setup videos on Hope and Youtube. These helped me to fine tune the pads and levers faster with more confidence. My LBS offered to help but none was required. They'll see 'em at some point probably not for repairs tho.
The only tools needed were a torx wrench, 3mm, 5mm allen wrenches and a small flat screw driver. Then there was the headset issue and lots of rags to clean up nicely. Total time was right at an hour for the brakes.
Old school 43
a Weekend Warrior
from Kenosha, WI USA
Date Reviewed: May 12, 2010
Strengths: Design. Lever feel adjustment. Contact adjustment. Have nice power. Look like jewelry.
Weaknesses: Design, kinda. And that's it.
I have wanted to keep Hayes on my bike. Hayes is located up the road and I know the employees, so I didn't want to switch. I actually rode the prototypes! Well, I've always had issues with the brakes and wanted to try something else. The Hope's just looked cool. I watched the "bleed the brake" video at Hope.com and that's all it took. IT'S THAT EASY! No more hanging the bike from a meat hook. And than doing it again and again. They don't fade. Have nice power. I haven't had any noise come from them, I haven't ridden in super wet conditions yet, but so far so good. You can adjust the feel of the brake and it's really noticable. The only thing I ran into is the shifter thing. I knew this going in that my shifters might not work but I thought I would try them anyway. They didn't work. I could have gotten away with the front shifter, but not the rear. The XTR's work great with these. I told my wife I needed new shifters anyway.
I'm completely sold on the Tech X2's and that's not easy to say.
Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Chameleon. Fox Vanilla. Raceface. Shimano drivetrain. New XTR shifter's.
a Cross Country Rider
from Vail, Colorado
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2010
Strengths: Zero brake fade
Machined aluminum alloy
Phenolic pistons (thermoset plastic) prevent heat transfer from brake pad to piston
Package included post-to-IS adapter
Weaknesses: Buzzing sound made by rotors when new
Having shot down trails on Vail Mountain, Cougar Ridge down into Minturn, and Paulie's Plunge in Beaver Creek, (interpretation: long downhill trails that require riders to be on the brakes quite often for long periods of time to shed speed) all in one day with zero brake fade and just as much bite at the end of the day as at the beginning, these brakes delivered.
I thought I'd change out the rear rotor for a 183mm, but after a dozen rides I couldn't justify doing so as the 160mm rear gave plenty of stopping power. I'm 6'2, 180 lbs plus a pack with water, cartridges, tool, etc., so let's call it 190.
Great value for what I paid - $387 for the pair. Highly recommended.
I need to purchase some pads for these brakes and am leaning towards 2 sets of EBC Red pads;
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So I have gone through the process of bleeding my Hope X2's (as per the hope video), and the front seems fine, but the rear just keeps putting out more bubbles. I have gone through quite a bit of oil, and before I buy another bottle of oil (using the Avid 5.1 bottle, smaller than the Hope "Kit" Bot ... Read More »
That's it really.
I have 180s up front and 160s rear. The literature I have seen talks about 183 rotors.
Will I need to replace the front rotor, or does the 180 work? If anyone can help it appreciated.
These are going on a Kona Kahuna that has a Manitou Tower Pro up front.
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I have never had a problem using avid rotors and adaptors with Shimano, Magura, etc on my bikes - about to pull the trigger on some Hopes and while I will eventually get the correct rotors and stuff, just wanted to make sure I can roll with what I have for the time being if needed.
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So I'm planning on upgrading my brakes and am leaning towards these three choices. I ride trail and some DH and these will be going on my TransAM. People who have used the hope techs, are the X2s powerful enough for moderate DH? or would the M4s be better? I've also read a lot of good reviews about ... Read More »