The Mono6ti has been developed to be the ultimate in braking technology. It is first bicycle disc brake to feature titanium pistons fitted into a state of the art 6 piston, one-piece caliper. Titanium, as well as being light and very durable, is one of the best materials for insulating the caliper from the heat generated in the pads and disc. The pistons are also coated with titanium nitride to reduce friction with the seals. The single design of caliper uses different brackets to fit current frames and forks. It also uses the Mini lever.
Submitted by
eric
a Downhiller
from edmonton Date Reviewed: March 29, 2008
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
rvc
Strengths:
modulation, looks, durability
Weaknesses:
none found
Similar Products Used:
hayes 9, juicy 7s, hope m4
Bike Setup:
faith 2, 888rc, hope m6(front]m4(rear), dhx 5, race face cranks, dangerboy pedals(love-hate relationship)and all the other steezy gear a ride should have
Bottom Line:
Im a kinda fat downhiller (6' 235lbs) and these brakes can stop me on a dime. It might have to do with my weight, but it has never locked up and modulates perfectly. Its easy to maintain and a sinch to bleed. A must have on any downhill rig.
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Submitted by
Travis Allen
a Downhiller
from Idaho Date Reviewed: March 1, 2007
Favorite Trail:
ALL
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$350.00
Strengths:
Tons of power and lots of modulation, extremley reliable.
Weaknesses:
NONE!
Similar Products Used:
Hayes mags, nines, magura, etc...
Bike Setup:
07 Canfield F1, 888WC, I-9 wheelset, mono 6tis goodridge lines and DB levers, more....
Bottom Line:
Absolutely easy to set up (nay sayers should stay home because getting up requires effort too.) you can rely on them day in and day out, pads make a difference in performance as with any brake. I rode a set of mags last summer and they faded at the worst possible time, i adjusted them and gave them another shot and they did the same shortly there of. So again I am back on the burliest brake on the market with total confidence.
If you bomb hills, are hard on components, ride hard or just want a peice of equiptment on the bike that you don't have to question or worry about the mono 6tis are them.
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Submitted by
Blair
a Downhiller
from Banff, Alberta, Canada Date Reviewed: February 28, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Mount 7, Harper, any good skatepark
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$265.00
Purchased At:
Roaring Mouse Cycles in San Francisco
Strengths:
Modulation is fantastic, there is lots of bite in the pads and you can always control how strong the brake comes on. The feel in the lever is really good as I am hardly ever surprised by the power for how much I pull the lever. They have loads of power and there has been the odd time that the power has almost gotten the better of me and almost sent me over the bars... never really a problem when going fast though.
Bleeding isn't too challenging either, it may take a little while to be sure there's no air bubbles left but it's not hard. That said, a Hayes is easier to bleed. The shims for alignment work really well and seriously aren't that hard to figure out. I'm surprised so many people find them a weakness. If you're having problems with them I suggest getting your disc tabs faced. They also look cool
Weaknesses:
Okay so now the fun part. If I leave my bike for a day or two it seems like the pads 'glaze' over and need to be ridden for a bit to regain their bite. On second thought, it might have something to do with the rotor because last season I tried 3 different types of pads and they all do the same. Somehow, I keep managing to overheat the system and cook the pads. So far I've found that EBC gold pads work the best. They seem to have more bite than the Hope sintered ones and are cheaper. They also didn't cook as fast. I've had the brake randomly pull right to the bar, then say two pulls later the reach was way out to the point that it was hard to grab. That may have had something to do with the c-clip for the pushrod popping out into a new spot randomly. The post mount adapter doesn't have wide enough slots to align properly without you having to file the slots bigger.
Similar Products Used:
Hayes Mag G1, Shimano Deore, Hope M4, Avid Juicy 7
Bike Setup:
Commencal VIP Supreme 6
Bottom Line:
When these are working properly they are absolutely amazing. The problem is that maybe a third of the time I'm complaining about how they have faded or are doing something unpredictable. They are the one part on my bike that this season I could just not trust, so I'm getting rid of them and putting some Avid Codes on instead to see if they're any better. The only reason I've used them this long is because I wanted to see if I could change pads, or bleeds or whatever and get them working properly. I wouldn't buy another set.
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Submitted by
Nick Wolsink
a Downhiller
from Germany Date Reviewed: November 21, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Winterberg / Germany
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
Stappenbelt
Strengths:
Great stopping Power yet modulated. Thes brakes feel good and stay good!
Weaknesses:
Initial setup is quite a lot of work, when new they don't feel super yet.
These brakes are great, but do get the floating disks to go with it, these have at least 20% more power, this is not due to the "floating" but due to a larger disc surface.
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Submitted by
Cody
a
from Boise, ID, USA Date Reviewed: November 3, 2006
They do require patience to set up. Its been said over and over but take the time to do it right the first time through. Pricey
Similar Products Used:
Hayes mag, Hayes hfx hd, Hayes hfx 9 (crap), 4 piston XT's, Magura louise FR's, Saints,
Bike Setup:
04 Devinci 8flat8, boxxer race, saint cranks, x.9 drivetrain.
Bottom Line:
When I first got these brakes up and running and was playing around in the parking lot I was afraid I had wasted my money. They don't have the hard bite of a lot of brakes I've owned. I attributed it to break in times and thought I'd wait and see. Well, they do take a long time to break in but I think I was used to the on/off feel of inferior brakes. These things truly are the most amazing brakes I've ever used. 7 days in a row of Whistler, Sun Peaks, Silver Star riding and never got hand pump, never noticed any fade. Never wished for more power and did I mention best modulation of any brake out there. I use one finger to stop always. We aren't talking about instand lockup (its there if you really want it) braking. We are talking about smooth, effortless control in any situation. The brakes ooze confidence and oh yeah, look cool as hell. I've ridden a lot of great brakes that I would recommend in a heartbeat, but nothing reaches out and strokes me the way these do. You have to ride them to really understand what they offer.
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Submitted by
One Off
a Downhiller
from Honolulu, HI, USA Date Reviewed: October 26, 2006
Favorite Trail:
St. Louis
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$249.00
Purchased At:
Monk-A-Moo
Strengths:
Consistent power and linear modulation rate. Brilliant heat dispersion, I've yet to encounter even a hint of fade. Reasonable caliper weight considering their robust construction. Excellent floating rotor design (they're lighter than Hayes 203mm rotors), and rotational weight savings is never a bad thing. Comes stock with steel braid hose. Single finger braking. They look the sh*t! The rotor spider, master cylinder cap, piston bore caps, and lever blades are available in six colors, and can be factory installed. Excellent customer service.
Weaknesses:
As far as performance weaknesses, I've found exactly zero. I've heard it said that "Hopes have a spongy feel to them, that's due to a design flaw". I assure you that this is not the case. If you're new to the Hope mark, you should seek out a mech., who KNOWS HOPE BRAKES. If you're not a patient person, setup and tuning may drive you to drink heavily, during, instead of after the build. That said, I have some cosmetic issues. For the price, more attention should be paid to the finish, for example: the surface machining should be somewhat more refined (closer to that of Chris King's finish quality). Also I think the lever-blade bolt should have been spec'd with a bit more attention to aesthetic. Users who have complained about the initial setup should have considered what they were getting into. These are high performance parts, and just like any truly high-end, precision racing part, they require proper setup and tuning. As for people with pricing issues. What do you expect? Aston Martin quality at Scion prices. . . . Get real.
Similar Products Used:
Purple, Mag-HD, Mono Mini
Bike Setup:
'04 Bighit, '06 RC2X, DHX5, Mono6 203mm, XO Shifter, X9 R-Der, Nokon, Deity Cranks, King Hubs, Halo Hoops, Tubeless SBC Rubbers, King SteelSet, Deity Riser, Rouges, Hot Seat
Bottom Line:
If you like Hayes Mag-HD on/off feeling, these are definitly not for you. If you're a weight-weenie, these aren't for you. If you don't have the patience to setup and tune your set, you guessed it.
However, if you're willing to pay top-dollar for high-end performance and sexy aesthetics. And if you can read -and follow- directions, look no further than Hope's six piston offering. You won't be dissapointed.
Submitted by
123 mtb
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver BC Date Reviewed: August 28, 2006
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Built like a tank, lots of pistons, nice modulation, nice floating rotors.
Weaknesses:
Hassle to bleed, hassle to setup / shim, expensive/hard to find brakes & parts...
Similar Products Used:
Hayes, Avids, Maguras, Shimano XT 755DH, Shimano
Bike Setup:
Cove G Spot / Kona ...
Bottom Line:
Bought these brakes expecting to be blown away ... Lots of pistons, titanium, floating rotors - wow! They are nice brakes - they stop you, they modulate pretty well, and once they are set up, they are easy to maintain.
The only problem I have is that they aren't any better than my XT755s, Magura Louise FR or the Avid Juicy's which cost half as much ... If you need to have the best on your bike - these are it ... but if you just want a reliable stopper there are easier / cheaper setups that do the job just as well!
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Submitted by
Jacomus
a Weekend Warrior
from Guildford, Surrey, England (UK) Date Reviewed: July 30, 2006
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$380.00
Purchased At:
Can't remember, online though
Strengths:
Performance under duress, looks, build quality.
Weaknesses:
Beyond my abilities to set up perfectly, though minor tweaks are fine.
Similar Products Used:
Much much worse Deore XT hydo from Shimano - totally, utterly rubbish.
Bike Setup:
MTB customised for agressive road downhilling.
Bottom Line:
The brake is what you expect of a motorcyle brake. Brilliantly sensitive modulation, awesomely controllable stopping power. Good in the wet (suffers from slightly too much power if you are not very careful with the lever). I would recommend buying Hope sintered pads though, the riding I do takes me up to around 45mph and can need some very dramatic stops. I was told that the non-sintered pads were very good, and tried them out. Very good is true, though not excellent (which I can say that the glod sintered pads are).
Today I was forced into a 45-0mph stop on a very steep hill in my area. The brake did suffer quite bad fade, but that kind of stop is not recommened under any circumstances. At the end of my braking I was still having to lean back hard to keep the back down, and only had a very small amount of play with my rear brake before it would lock.
This brake is for dedicated and experienced riders only, its power is great enough that an inexperienced rider, grabbing a hanful in surprise would have a very nasty meeting of face and road.
Jacomus
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Submitted by
ryan jehu
a Weekend Warrior
from wales Date Reviewed: July 7, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
allterraincycles.co.uk
Strengths:
unbeleivable stopping power, actually whent over the bars on the track, didnt think it would stop so fast. very nice looking brake and customizable.
Weaknesses:
cost
Similar Products Used:
deore m525 hope m4
Bike Setup:
big hit, shiver dc, sram x-9 truvativ, ddg, hope xc mono 6, wtb 2.5 tyre's, dmr v12 chris king, easton bar, vuelta anti snakebite.
Bottom Line:
great product exellent stopping power, worht the cash.
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Submitted by
Sean Nethercott
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada Date Reviewed: April 29, 2006
Favorite Trail:
DF
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
local
Strengths:
quality product made in the UK. Great modulation. Good Stopping Power. Light Rotors. Easy Bleed compared to Hayes.
Weaknesses:
Setup is a hassle Parts are hard to find / expensive
Similar Products Used:
Hayes Comp, Mag, nines, Shimano Deore 555, XT 755, Magura, Avid Juicys, BB's, Hope M4, mini
Bike Setup:
Cove Gspot FR
Bottom Line:
When I first got them I wasn't that impressed - especially for what they cost. The lever feel seemed alot like the hayes that they replaced - they were a real hassle to set up ...
Once I got them out to ride, they were fantastic - modulation stopping power, maintnance free. I'm not a big gear guy, but brakes are something that I will spend the money on - the only thing that comes close to these are the XT 755s and the Maguras ...
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Submitted by
John
a Downhiller
from Vashon, WA Date Reviewed: March 23, 2006
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Awesome stopping power. Great modulation. No fade. These are pretty much bullet proof.
Also, their customer service rocks.
Weaknesses:
As I mentioned when reviewing the M4s, the only weakness and its not really a weakness is that they can be time consuming to set up. Once done properly, they work great and don't need any attention.
Similar Products Used:
Hope M4s, Hayes HFX-9 and Mag.
Bike Setup:
Its the envy of most ;-).
Bottom Line:
For the mechanically impatient, go get some Hayes. Otherwise, well worth the effort.
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Submitted by
Sam Samaha
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ USA Date Reviewed: March 13, 2006
Favorite Trail:
back yard
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$580.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Stopping power, and damn good looks
Weaknesses:
Price, but heck, brakes this good aren't going to be cheap.
Similar Products Used:
Shimano XTR and Saint hydraulic disc, and other cable disc brakes
I weigh well over 200lbs with riding gear, and I live in a very hilly area, so I wanted to spare no expense on brakes to make sure I can stop while screaming downhill incase something got in my way! Well these brakes bring new meaning to the term "stop on a dime" .. they are AMAZING. I have the M6 on the front with a 205mm disc, and the M4 on the rear with the 180mm rotor, and if I hit them hard enough, even while going down a hill at 25+ mpg, I can lock them up on asphalt! I almost threw myself off the bike doing just that, had I not let off on the brakes to get the wheels spinning again... These brakes would really rock if they could develop an equal to ABS for bikes.. cause they'll lock up if you squeeze them too hard, no matter how fast you're going!
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Submitted by
Laurie
a Downhiller
from Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date Reviewed: February 12, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Monkey Poo
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At:
The Cyclepath
Strengths:
This brake is far more superior than anything that is out there! For a six piston brake, it is pretty light. As well, they come stock with a braided stainless steel brake line. With Hayes, that would cost you extra. These brakes look cool and are fully functional. I have never had issues with this brake throughout its duration. I have never experienced brake fade and I always have 100% braking force.
Weaknesses:
Eat up pads fairly quickly. This is a small price to pay considering you can stop on a dime! I also have a Fox 40RC2 and I needed to buy a nine inch rotor. These are really hard to come by and are on back order from Hope.
Similar Products Used:
Hayes HFX Mag HDs. These were pieces and were always problematic for me.
Bike Setup:
Fully loaded Stab Primo
Bottom Line:
If you have the money, I suggest getting a set of them. They are worth every penny even though they are pricey.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from London, UK Date Reviewed: February 9, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Chicksands. Les Gets
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
Chain Reaction Cycles
Strengths:
Very powerful, no fade, looks.
Weaknesses:
Heavy!
Similar Products Used:
Hayes HFX, Nines, Hope Minis, M4, C2s, Mono Minis, Mono M4s, Magura Julies, Claras, Formula and a cupla others.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Bullit 04 with 888s. 205mm rotors F&R.
Bottom Line:
I bought these pretty much as soon as they were released (Jan 04) and have ridden them all over the place including Wales and Morzine/Les Gets and they are superb. You can now pick them up for about £50 less thean I paid for them which has to be good.
The bike they were on was stolen last July and it was then that I realised just how good they were. In the mean time I have been riding Hayes Nines and Hope Mono M4s and they just dont perform as well - nothing wrong with them just not as good. I got the Bullit back late last year and cant wait till I can stick them on my VP Free.
I dont know how anyone could complain about the braking performance of these - except maybe for noise but that seems to be more related to your frame than the brakes - a properly trued and spacered frame with solid mounts makes a huge improvement - I first ran them on a Super 8 which had pretty flexy mounts and they did squeal a bit - the Bullit is fine tho.
Pads seem to last very well - I only run plain (non sintered) ones. They are as easy to bleed as any Hope brake and heaps easier than Hayes.
They may be a bit of overkill for rear brakes??? Modulation is also superb - no on/off switch like some brakes are.
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Submitted by
Adam
a Downhiller
from Santa Barbara Calif. USA Date Reviewed: February 8, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Cold Spring or Romero
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$375.00
Purchased At:
guy online, 5 months old
Strengths:
Great brakes altament power and modulation. Could be to much power sometimes but not as much as gustavs.
Weaknesses:
none. The replacment parts are expensive but that is it.
Similar Products Used:
Saint brakes, Hays Mag, but none compare
Bike Setup:
sxtrail 06 pimped out.
Bottom Line:
get this product if you can afford it or find some great deal used. parts might be hard to find so by extra to bring on trips. make sure the guy at you local bike store knows these brakes and can work on them.
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Submitted by
sam iveson
a Downhiller
from canterbury, uk Date Reviewed: January 16, 2006
Favorite Trail:
a place in wales that i cant spell..
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
stiff cycles
Strengths:
great modulation and power
Weaknesses:
takes a while to set up initially. i found that if the caliper is slightly off centre, they feel a little poo. a little usical when wet
Similar Products Used:
gays hfx9's, shimano xt, hope M4's (the old/good ones!)
Bike Setup:
224, boxxers, hope, mavic, sram etc
Bottom Line:
i had always used the old M4's up untill my last bike was stolen. i tried to get hold of a new set and i am now glad i couldnt! apart from lining up the caliper which is a mission (but at the end of the day, you only have to do it once!) i havent found a single fault with the brakes. they have a huge amount of power - which is what i want when i'm going downhill fast, but arent super grabby like a few other systems i could mention. all in all - a good brake for the money (all 160 quid of it!!)
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Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from Canada Date Reviewed: January 6, 2006
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
JensonUSA.com
Strengths:
Super braking power Excellent modulation Looks to kill Easy pad removal Nice lever feel They only weigh 515g with 8" rotor.
Weaknesses:
None so far
Similar Products Used:
Hayes HFX Nine & Mag
Bottom Line:
I have these brakes on my DH rig. I love them, they have incredible modulation and braking power. They're super quiet. The caliper and rotor simply look awesome. I think hope made a fine job on these brakes and I recommend them to anyone.
I saw someone complain about the weight of these brakes a few posts under. Common,they weigh 515g with the 8" rotor included. Do you realize that the Hayes El Camino with an 8" rotor weighs 499g. I don't hink 16g is such a big difference.
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Submitted by
Petko Angelov
a Downhiller
from Sofia, Bulgaria Date Reviewed: October 27, 2005
Favorite Trail:
long downhill tracks
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Monkamoo
Strengths:
Ultimate braking power, look sexy!!!
Weaknesses:
Scream like crazy when it's raining and the disks are wet, but still stops great
Similar Products Used:
Hayes 9 HD
Bike Setup:
Giant AC1, Marzocchi 66rc, other gooooooooood stuff
Bottom Line:
If you want to stop whenever you want - get these!!!!! A little be pricy, but who cares?!? if you want to have the best stuff on earth - you have to pay.
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Submitted by
Dereck Grubner
a Racer
from UK Date Reviewed: September 11, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Pleney Morzine
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
200
Strengths:
Looks, English made
Weaknesses:
Overweight, noisey, high maintanance, inconsistant, mushy lever even after several bleeds by the 'experts', No reply from the factory when I told them I was having problems.
Similar Products Used:
Gustav, Hope Enduro (even worse) Hayes, Shimano Saint (the best)
Bike Setup:
Orange 223, Fox DHX 5, Fox 40's, Saint cranks&BB, deemax wheelset, easton bars stem, Saint brakes (now!), ODI grips, SDG seat/post, Sram XO,X9 shifter MRP Type 3. Chris King headset, No expense spared!
Bottom Line:
They just dont slow you down. Hope is a good name for them, you Hope there gonna work..I've just finished a full seasons riding in Les Gets France. They were fine for the first week of riding but then all the problems started. I was always having to do something to them to try to get them to work properly, without any luck.I had to change them them half way through the summer because they were so terrible. I replaced them with Saint's. I've been using Saints for the last 8 weeks without a single problem, and I'm riding faster! If you ride a Big Hit, go to uni, keep your bike in your bedroom and only ride to the local trails to watch these brakes are for you. All show no go.
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Submitted by
vojislav stojnic
a Downhiller
from Serbia, smederevo Date Reviewed: August 2, 2005
Favorite Trail:
local downhill track
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At:
hope factory
Strengths:
The best brake ever built in world.Not one defect occured. Powerfull, no compromise.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
Shimano BR-555 with 203 rottor
Bike Setup:
Scott High Octane, 888,Mono 6-ti, Ultimate hardware on Vuelta DH rims,Deore XT,Gazzalodi
Bottom Line:
If you ever consider what brake you should buy, here is the answer.....Who knows when you'll have to brake hard to stop...Better to have this baby to stop you.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from London, UK Date Reviewed: July 6, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Ft William
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Wades Cycles
Strengths:
controllability, performance, power, consistant feel in differing conditions, predictability, looks
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Avid Mechanicals, Hayes Purple, Shimano XT (Rubbish!)
Bike Setup:
Tomac 204, WB DH3, Sun MODO Wheels, RF NS Cranks, Atomlab pedals, Hope 6ti brakes, Azonic Ultracross bars, Azonic Hammer stem, XT rear Mech and Cassette, FSA PIG DH Pro headset...
Bottom Line:
As much as I've liked some of the other brake systems I've used, I absolutely love these. I'm a big guy, 250lbs, riding a 50lb bike.... these brakes, with one finger, bring me to a physics defying stop every time. The controllability is amazing - you don't have the on/off effect that you get with the Shimanos, you don't have the inconsistancy of the Hayes and they're much prettier than the Avids. I really have to hand it to Hope on this one. This is a very, very well thought out brake system. It's over built without being silly heavy, stopping power is amazing, lever feel is excellent and the setup instructions, if followed EXACTLY, will get you up and running in less than an hour from start to finish, for both wheels...
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Submitted by
jake heke
a Downhiller
from france Date Reviewed: March 16, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Brevent Chamonix
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$90210.00
Purchased At:
stolen
Strengths:
Nice looking brake, gold piston caps and floating rotors look mint
Weaknesses:
mine dont seem to work properly they dont have much power compared to magura gustavs and the lever is inconsistant. sometimes you grab the lever and it will go all the way to the bars and nothing happens, let it go, grab it again, and its fine. it happens on the same corner of my favourite track every time, its near the bottom so must be when it gets hot. also the lever feels mushy compared to hayes and gustavs they've been installed and bled by the factory twice now and still do the same. cant feel when they're about to lock up lever travel doesn't seem to be progressive enough
Similar Products Used:
formula, hayes hfx9, magura gustav
Bike Setup:
turner dhr 888's
Bottom Line:
nice to look at good for general use still not good enough for full on alpine conditions
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Submitted by
Francisco
a
from Monterrey, Mexico Date Reviewed: March 8, 2005
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
beyondbikes.com
Strengths:
They are the best brakes available. They have an unsurpassed stopping power and the best modulation I have ever experience in any Disk Brake System. I use mine with the stainless steel brake lines and it definitely makes them even better. I would highly recommend using them with this brake lines.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Avid Juicy 7, Saint, Hayes, XT
Bike Setup:
FOES FLY 2005, Foes XTD Fork, The hopes, Mavic 823, Saint Cranks, Easton Composite Handlebar...etc
Bottom Line:
If youre a DH or FR whos looking for the ultimate brakes, this are the best. They are worth the price.
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Submitted by
Travis Allen
a Downhiller
from lewiston Date Reviewed: February 10, 2005
Favorite Trail:
hellsgate and waja
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
ridemonkey
Strengths:
Extremely solid grab on disc, compression of lever is incredible. looks excellent, good design
Weaknesses:
None!
Similar Products Used:
hayes nines, 3 sets of hayes mags.
Bike Setup:
04 bullit, avy 275dhs, boxxer team black boxed, deemax, xtr, x.9, raceface, e-13drs, thomson.
Bottom Line:
I loved my hayes mags and always said I would never stray, well unforunetly I have an open mind and decided to give them a try! ooohps! I lied, they are so much more responsive and controlled through the lever it's unbelievable. I would have switched years ago had they been around. As far as the getting hot goes, run non sinthered pads and you'll be fine. If its wet or cold like the N.W. then metallic pads rule, they cater to cold and wet weather. If you are considering a brake change and reading this review, I recomend the cost and try em or atleast find someones bike with them and give them a spin.
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Submitted by
Alistair
a Cross Country Rider
from Falmer, Sussex, England Date Reviewed: February 7, 2005
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$360.00
Strengths:
Superb braking power, the first time that i rode it pulled on the leaver just a little and locked the back wheel.
Weaknesses:
price
Similar Products Used:
hope m4, shimano deore hydralic
Bike Setup:
deore hydralic front brake, Hope 6Ti rear, XTR front mech, SRAM x.7 rear.
Bottom Line:
The most powerful brake i have ever used. If you are going to be doing a lot of hard riding with some steep downhills and want to know that you are going to stop when you need to, this is the brake for you.
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Submitted by
Rik Jacobs
a Racer
from Bournemouth!! Date Reviewed: January 21, 2005
Favorite Trail:
any decent freeriding tracks
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
at my halfords store, too cheap to mention
Strengths:
every thing, looks soooo good, love the new piston cover designs, look like the yamaha r1 + r6 design front brakes, soooo powerfull
Weaknesses:
cant really think of any, only very slight minor things as yoiu do with most disk brakes, like setting them up. hope need to go for a simlar set up idea like the hayes, instead of the stupid washers, if you change bike, you have to hunt around for all the right washers, it sucks
Similar Products Used:
hope c2's, hayes, hope m4,xt and deore loads of them
Bike Setup:
mountain cycle rumble, Rockshox pike sl, stom lab on hope big uns front and rear, middleburn cranks, race face bb, roox chain device, road casssete and mech
Bottom Line:
really nice brakes, looks sooo nice, work well, mabye too much power then what really is needed, but who cares, they look sooo good
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Submitted by
Javin
a Weekend Warrior
from uk Date Reviewed: January 16, 2005
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Too much power modulation
Weaknesses:
Is a bit heavy, and I think I spend most of my time fixing it than any other part of the bike. Im not really sure about this but I dont really feel very amaze for its perfomance. Maybe bacause I never has another brake disc that this one.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
P3, z150r, mavic ex823, high roller 2.35, easton mokeylite, tioga cube, selle italia slr, sun ringle hubs, truvativ holzfeller, mrp, xtr shifter and rear mech.
Bottom Line:
For the time its been in the market it can still keep up compare to new brakes, but i think hope should really change te design of is mini lever (same for all hope brakes) but in general i think is a good brake.
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Submitted by
Jim V.
a Downhiller
from Colorado Springs, Co Date Reviewed: January 2, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Vail
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
BalleRacing.com
Strengths:
Great stopping power, Reliable, good looking, and the lever shape is perfect. everything about them is just kick @ss.
Weaknesses:
The setup takes a little more time than the others. But well worth it. I have been using hopes for about 6 years so set up went fast for hopes.
Similar Products Used:
Hope M4, Hope C2
Bike Setup:
Turner dhr w/ shivers. 8" rotors front & rear
Bottom Line:
The brakes have great stopping power and I don't think they are even bedded in yet. I cant wait to get them really hot on the ski hills and see what they really can do.
If you plan on buying some. get them from Erik at balleracing.com They will give you the best service and will be glad to help you if you have any questions.
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Submitted by
Igor
a Downhiller
from Brooklyn, NY, USA Date Reviewed: December 23, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Mountain Creek, NJ
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
Quality
Strengths:
The braking strength is unbelivable. You can feel the beefyness through the lever. Looks are amazing. Very responsive. Saved my ass many times
Weaknesses:
Takes a while to break in. Rear brake plays with me sometimes... one weekend it works better than anything, another weekend I have to depend on my front brake because my rear is slaking power.
Similar Products Used:
None---these are the best brakes i've tried so far and will keep on using them untill they stop working (which will never happen ofcourse)
Bike Setup:
BigHit w/ Avlanche, Shiver DC, XTR, M6ti's, DoubleTracks, CK
Bottom Line:
Worth every single penny. Go out and buy these, if you can't afford the m6's, then get the m4's.
I <3 Hope !!!
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Submitted by
Jon
a
from Wellilngton New Zealand Date Reviewed: November 9, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Deliverance, Makra Peak
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$190.00
Purchased At:
supergo
Strengths:
Aerospace quality engineering, Smoothness, Power, Feel, Heat dissapation, Pad wear.
Weaknesses:
Looks so good my wife gets jealous. The pads sweep an arc about 2 mm inside the perimeter of the rotor. I may have the wrong adapter or the Z1 IS mounts may be a little out. Am currently investigating. I am using the adapter stamped IS so assume it is correct. Any advice would be appreciate.
Similar Products Used:
Hayes HFX 9 HD 8"
Bike Setup:
04 Santa Cruz Heckler, 5th Elment Coil, 03 Z1 FR, Hope Hubs, Deore Cable Rear Disk!!, 521 Rims, combination of XT, RaceFace and Ritchey Comp others.
Bottom Line:
I am 110 Kgs (240 lbs)and have always suffered from overheating brakes. The Hayes HFX 9's had reasonable power, even when overheating but would sound very rough and quickly chew through pads. These are just the absolute fruit (I am using the 205 rotor. I have deliberately tried to overheat these dragging them the whole way down a 5 min downhill run and whilst they got very hot, no degradation in performance and they ran as silently and smooth as ever. On a normal run with heavy surge braking, they appear to cool off far quicker than any other brake Ive seen. I suspect the Alloy spider set up and extensive drilling accounts for this. Excpetionally light pad wear compared to the hayes. They are the business, and it is a shame that one bad review below, has dragged their average score down. I cant understand what that guy is on about. He must have greased his rotor or something as I just cant imagine these not performing.
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Submitted by
Dialed In
a Racer
from Laguna Niguel Date Reviewed: October 25, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Jedi, Schultz Creek, Lost Burrito, Telonix, Stair Steps, Old Car
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$190.00
Purchased At:
StupidGo
Strengths:
205's front and rear are unreal! About 20 miles of freeriding singletrack to thoroughly break the pads in. I'm 6'4", 215 pounds, and fast but these brakes are still always one finger. Whisper quite, no heat induced fade or noise. Ultra high tech drilled and Ti coated pistons. Still the best lever in the business, period the end! Perfect modulation. Beats every other brake for performance, modulation, concept, and looks hands down. People seem to think the rotor is a floating rotor; it is NOT, it is riveted with large rivets that make it look like a floater but the fact that it isn't is of no consequence because it doesn't need to be a floater; the setup works killer as is and (bonus) it always gets attention. The alloy spider with steel rotor is more rigid than all steel and dissipates heat very well to help eliminate chatter and warping. These brakes are now the standard by which all others will be judged. If you want a simple brake that a monkey could set up that will stop you better than V-brakes with minimal noise then buy the Avid Mechy's with XTR levers BUT if you want the ABSOLUTE PINNACLE of MTB braking (for now) and you are willing to spend an hour or two surfacing your mounts and centering the caliper PROPERLY with shims that you measured with a dial caliper or micrometer (no eyeballing) then GO BUY THESE BRAKES RIGHT NOW, you will be STOKED!
Weaknesses:
It always makes me laugh when I hear of people that plunk down big coin but aren't savvy enough to set up their bike properly (wazzup Frenchie) or they took their bike to one of MANY hack shops to set up their bike and then they bad mouth stuff because their setup sucks, not the product. These are high end parts for fast riders that either have a clue of their own or work with a shop that has a clue (good luck finding one); beginners through slow intermediates will be better served with less brake.
For those of you that drive lowered Escalades on 24"'s then you are going to love the gold anodized piston bore caps but I think they are a little too disco. I'll let it slide though because the Ti-nitrided pistons are gold so the bore caps at least have a reason to be gold... to match the ultra high tech DRILLED and Ti coated pistons!
Similar Products Used:
Just about every hydraulic disc out there (all of them that matter anyway)... and I have the mechanical Avid's on my beater ramp bike.
Bike Setup:
Gemini, 125RLC and DHX5.0 both with Renthal Ti springs, Wheelsmith built 36 hole Kings / Mavics built cross 4, Timberwolf 2.5's, King Ti headset, Diabolus, Answer 2.5 bars, Hope mono 6Ti 205's, Thomson 410 post, Salsa QR stuff, SDG S2K kevlar seat, all Ti bolts, XTR everything else. 34 pounds and bulletproof.
Bottom Line:
10 flaming chili's out of 5 possible. I hear people are paying almost $600.00 for these brakes. I don't blame them, these brakes are worth it... IF you NEED this much brake. Do you? 90% (probably more) of the riders I have ever seen definitely don't. Case in point: Guy who posted the first review and mentioned not bleeding his setup (after shortening the lines)... even with air in his lines he thinks these brakes are the best! By the way, StupidGo has these brakes for $190 each end... that's about $40 under the average dealer's COST. I don't care how lame shopping that store is, that is too cheap to pass up. You will also need tires that STICK to take advantage of these brakes; if you can ride with tires under 2.3" you don't need these brakes and you probably should have 2.5"'s or bigger to take advantage of the stopping power.
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Submitted by
Mike Bassi
a Weekend Warrior
from Campbell, Ca Date Reviewed: October 12, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Many to choose from around here
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
These brakes could stop a motorcycle. Be very careful as these will stop you in a hurry
Not sure about the guy from france was saying. Maybe he gave up on them too early, typical of the french. Anyways these thigs rock, 6 piston brakes on a bike, you have to be kidding. They feel lighter and more precise then the Hayes did. One finger braking going down hill is very nice. Never a problem with over heating and I weigh 225 and go pretty quickly downhill. If you can get them, get them now.
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Submitted by
Simon Bosman
a Weekend Warrior
from Manchester Date Reviewed: September 28, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Grundig W/C downhill, Les Gets, France
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$240.00
Purchased At:
Leisure Lakes, Manchester
Strengths:
Looks great, has good modulation.
Weaknesses:
Far too much lever travel before the pads touch the rotor, rotor can't handle the heat, squeals for England, nothing like enough stopping power for a six pot, especially when you consider the reputation these have got combined with the extortionate price.
Similar Products Used:
Hates HFX mags, Hope Mono M4, Diatech Anchors (even these have more stopping power and they're less than the half the price)
Bike Setup:
Orange 223DD, 1 1/2 -> 1 1/8 convertor, 2004 Monster T, Saint, Mono M4 rear, Ti six front, Atac, Revell, Tioga White Tigers
Bottom Line:
Utter rubbish. Will be getting replaced with Hayes HFX-9 DH as soon as I've got £100 to throw at it. If anyone has had a similar experience with this brake and has some advice for me I would be most appreciative of an email from you.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Downhiller
from Brooklyn, NY Date Reviewed: August 16, 2004
Favorite Trail:
mountain creek
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
Racers Edge (jeralds shop)
Strengths:
Unbelievable breaking power, and modulation, press a little bit it stops a little, hehe press hard and your over, these brakes are amazingly great to look at you get into this dream world stairing at them. the system is much lighter than i expected. even when hot they dont need any work, you can not tell the difference, and did i mention they are SO QUITE, i hear no braking noise, and when wet, there is a minor squeak, im lovin these brakes.
Weaknesses:
Takes a couple of days to break them in, and they are very expensive, (WORTH THE MONEY IF YOU ASK ME)
Similar Products Used:
Hope Mini, Hope M4, Hope mono M4, magura julies, avid juicy And hayes mags, by far hope feels better than hayes, or magura, thats why i have sticked with them for years,
Bike Setup:
XTR Drive train, RACE FACE NORTH SHORES, evil genius guides and bash guards, stratus s8 fork, specialized big hit dh frame, and of course these beautiful HOPE 6 TI's
Bottom Line:
These brakes are the best you can get. ive been with hope for years. there stuff is extremely easy to warrantie, and the people there are fantastic. the product are exrtemely well detailed. this brake never looses power, through rain, sleet, mud, sand, what ever, they stop you on the dime, and with the right tires you will never go wrong. worth the money, and when broken in the best brake on the market, believe me, ive tride them all!
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from London Date Reviewed: August 10, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Le Pleney
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At:
Chain Reaction Cycles
Strengths:
Very progressive feel from a light drag to full on lockup. Not another brake on the market that looks half as good.
Weaknesses:
Price? - tho I suppose that adds an air of exclusivity :)
Similar Products Used:
Hope M4 & C2, Hayes HFX, Shimano XT.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Super 8, Marzocchi Monster Ts.
Bottom Line:
These are a fantastic alpine brake. A 4km downhill (Les Gets 2 - French Alpes) warmed the discs to the point where touching them would have left an instant tatoo but there was no increase in lever pressure requied (single finger braking) or any sign of pump up and only a very slight increase in noise. I was also wearing out pads at about 1/4 the rate of the Hayes everyone else was using - over 14 days riding the rears were about 80% dead whereas everyone else had changed (Hayes) pads at least 3 times in the wet and muddy conditions. If you can afford a set - BUY SOME! Oh - and they look super cool......
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Submitted by
Kevin Shandler
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver Date Reviewed: May 10, 2004
Favorite Trail:
BikePark
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$260.00
Purchased At:
bikeroom.com
Strengths:
Feel the power of one finger
Weaknesses:
Want to put them on my other bike
Similar Products Used:
M4, Purple Hayes
Bike Setup:
Dare with 888
Bottom Line:
I went for 203 front and 185 rear and can't think of needing more on the back. One finger stopping, no fad and best of all a great feel. No make that the looks, is there a better looking brake? Nice job English folks
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Submitted by
Justin K
a Weekend Warrior
from Dunedin, New Zealand Date Reviewed: April 26, 2004
Favorite Trail:
something fast
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$265.00
Purchased At:
jensonUSA
Strengths:
these brakes are sweet, i mean they look good, work good, and little ajustment is needed afer fitting
Weaknesses:
i found it a bit time consuming to get set up right, but once i got that sorted they were sweet as after a few runs.
Similar Products Used:
well, this is my first disc brake lol :)
Bike Setup:
the old GT chucker with 03 DJ3 with rare 20mm axle, DM24's hussfelts yada yada yada
Bottom Line:
yea, as i said, this is a good quality brake and even tho they arent quite bedded in yet they still work better then the old "V"s, i mean, what more could u want, looks, preformance, quality. Its the only brake you'll ever need to buy.
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Submitted by
Tom W
a
from Ventura County Date Reviewed: March 11, 2004
Favorite Trail:
The ones with dirt, rocks, weeds, ups and downs etc., etc.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Direct from HOPE
Strengths:
Plenty-O-braking power and very good modulation. They may be too much brake for your average rider to handle. Perfect DH units. I like the fact that the caliper is machined from one piece of billet aluminum for minimum caliper flex and a floating rotor....just like real motorcycle race brakes!!! As soon as I saw them for the first time I knew I had to have them! Oh! And these are an open system....no reservoir cap adjustments required!
Weaknesses:
None that I have encountered....Ok they do cost a bit more than most, but in this case, you get what you pay for. Surprise! Surprise!
Similar Products Used:
I've used the HOPE Pro brakes, with the closed system, for years. Always worked well but I just got tired of constantly adjusting the reservoir cap to maintain the correct lever pull when the brakes heated up and or cooled.
Bike Setup:
Intense Uzzi SLX w/FOX piggy back fully adjustable shock, Mr.T forks, Sun Rhino Lite rims w/Hope Bulb disc hubs, Mono 6pot brakes up front and Mono 4pot in the rear, XTR drive train w/RaceFace 180mm cranks.....I love my 36 lbs bike and it's my X-country/FreeRide machine. I'm 5'10" @ 175 to 180 lbs, 52 yrs young and love to rip it up on the rough stuff.
Bottom Line:
I think you could place a BREMBO label on these brakes and know one would even question it!!! OUTSTANDING BRAKES
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Submitted by
Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston Date Reviewed: March 6, 2004
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$530.00
Purchased At:
JensonUSA
Strengths:
Incredible power, cool looks
Weaknesses:
The mounting hardware that came with brakes was not the correct length bolts and looked like it was thrown together without the care and quality evident in the rest of the brakes
Similar Products Used:
Upgraded from Hope mini discs
Bike Setup:
Maverick ML7
Bottom Line:
These have to be the coolest looking brakes ever! The detail in the CNC machining, the alloy spider, and the gold hardware - everything reeks quality on the Hope product. I found setting them up to be very easy, Ishortened lines and switched levers for moto style front lever on right. Didn't even have to bleed them after I did that nor did I need to use any shims for the installation on the frame and fork - everything was spot on. These are some powerful brakes - - way more compared to the 4 piston Hope enduro's I used a few years back. After one ride they are not fully bedded in yet but no problem locking up the rear. I expect they will continue to improve for some time. Pricey but hey - the ML7 deserves the best
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