Weaknesses: Manufacturer went out-of-business and poor reviews from riders with low bike maintenance schedules that believes this bike is for Free Riders.
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It's a great technical climber bike. The suspension just work great and is always in traction. The new shock gives a new life and even better performance. I'm not a downhiller so it performs fine for my level.
I have mine for 6 years now and had to change the rear triangle (under warranty) after a mistake with a rear tire trainner. PS: FS bikes are not intended for trainners.
So sad Ironhorse is no longer around. The bike has great parts (Shimano XT drivetrain) for the price.
Similar Products Used: Went from hard tail so I can only compare it against pedaling efficiency and long rides time.
Bike Setup: Stock except for seatpost (Ritchey Comp) and saddle. Other parts from normal wear. Upgraded the shock from the Swinger 3-Way to the 4-Way which is Greater in performance!
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JF
a Cross Country Rider
from Berkshire Hills, Western MA
Date Reviewed: September 11, 2010
Strengths: Nice ride from that DW link
Weaknesses: Durability, out of business
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This bike rode nice until it broke once, twice, three, then they sent the MKiii and that broke too. Each time the frame was a bit different and each time it broke. It was like they would stengthen one area and it would just break somewhere else. Mostly swingarm trouble, once the welded shock mount on seat tube just peeled right off. I think the 6 point and 7 point are good bikes but this frame was plagued with weakness. AND they are out of business so I can't try to warranty it again. Now I am riding a Blur LT.
Strengths: Fantastic climber - linkage and platform from the 5th element shock scrub pretty much all bob once you get the settings right.
Longer wheelbase (it's a strength for me)- very stable, predictable descender.
Great (generally) stock component package - aside from the grips, I have only been changing parts as I've killed them. Love the Pike fork, super plush. SRAM stuff good too and Hayes Brakes have worked well throughout.
Weaknesses: Rear tyre clearance. I'd love to try running a 2.5 in back, but the very widest the bike can handle is a skinnier 2.3/5.
A little heavy for weight weenies.
Slightly steep head angle?
Weedy paint which rubs off if you so much as look at it too hard.
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This is the 2nd review I've posted for the bike and I still agree with most of what I wrote the 1st time, so rather than repeat myself I'll try to focus on what I've picked up during the year.
Mechanicals during the year have been.
Rear hub failed at about month 3 (I think the seals on the WTB hubs may be a bit rubbish, not best for wetter riding), replaced with an XT which is still fine.
I am now on my 4th BB in a year - the FSA one did 8 weeks before breaking. Shimano's have been better but not much. Not sure why the wear rate is so high really (don't spray wash).
Eggbeater pedal snapped about month 8 landing a drop, pedal snapped right off the spindle - switched to SPD's, and will not be returing to eggbeaters in a a hurry.
Not on my first drivetrain anymore, but hey I, ride a fair bit...
Generally though the bike has held together well with all the big components (fork, shock, brakes etc) being of high quality.
It took me a while to work out, but I now run one of 2 shock setups - about 70ifp/85-90main for lumpy steep descents (like laggan or steep innerleithen bits)when i want the bike to be super plush, and 85ifp/95-100main for faster freeride and longer XC rides. (i weigh about 66kg) In the firmer setting I can get up and crank standing and still get little pedal bob.
As before, I still think the ride quality of the bike is fantastic. It's comfy,climbs like a goat, descends with massive confidence and handles drops & jumps well - for the price it is hard to beat. Mine has done everything from long XC days to innerleithen downhill runs, to north shore and eaten it all. If it could just take a wider rim and fatter tyre it would be near perfect. Minor niggles aside, I'd recommend one to anybody who rides neither out and out XC, or downhill, but somewhere between, it can do it all.
Bike Setup: Pike fork, 5th element air rear shock. 2.3/2.35 tyres.
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ashwinearl
a Cross Country Rider
from Blacksburg, VA 24060
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2006
Strengths: incredible pedaling, adjustable travel, burly, most incredible climbing bike ever ridden
Weaknesses: Weight, slack seat tube, water bottle location, 27.0 seatpost, takes some playing with to get the right settings.
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You can read a indepth review with pictures here: http://ashwinearl.blogspot.com/2005/10/2004-hollowpoint-review.html
Bottom line is this bike is the best value hands down in a FS frame. You can find them really cheap. The DW link is as advertised, and this thing climbs like a billy goat. The adjustability of the rear linkage is great for someone who doesn't know if they want an XC bike or a trail bike. I've used an 80mm and a 100mm fork and both work great. Others have used up to 130-140mm forks. This is the most versatile bike around.
I adore the bike. For 2005 Iron Horse took the HP and split it into two bikes: the Azure for XC and the MKIII for trail. One drawback of the HP is that it was designed for two different applications which means that compromises had to be made for both. I lean towards the XC side so would love to go with an Azure.
But for someone on a budget, or someone who isn't sure what they want the HP is an awesome bike to get their feet wet. I am so in the DW-link cult that I won't even CONSIDER any other bike other than a DW-link frame.
Bike Setup: X0 twist grips, X0 rear, XT front, Laserdisc lights/Stans Olympic rims, Race Face turbine, Thomson post, WTB rocket V J7 brakes
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Myron MacNeil
a Cross Country Rider
from Poway, CA
Date Reviewed: June 20, 2006
Strengths: frame, stability, climbing, VPP, whatever THAT is.
Weaknesses: it's a bit long and needs riding style adjustments. Weight. The paint job wears quickly
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Update to my originals. Rugged mountain goat. I'm not a beginner and I'm not an expert. I got better after the Chris King upgrade, which DID suprise me, but I'm not convinced the cost was worth it. I'd heard a lot about frame cracks, but I've done things that have scared the crack out of me and it's still going strong. Great bike and great component package at delivery.
Bike Setup: Chris King hubs(front/back) mavic rims, SRAM x0 rear, X9 shifters, Manitou Black Front Shock, Manitou Swinger 3 rear, Tomac Blue Groove tires that ROCK.
Strengths: I would have to be able to ride it to tell you.
Weaknesses: Progressive 5th element leaks from the negative chamber. Chain rubs on the swingarm when climbing. An iron horse rep admitted to the swingarm defect and say it's being fixed on 2007 models. When asked if I can receive an updated swingarm, I got the silent treatment. Angry? Extremely
Bottom Line:
This is more a review of Iron horse customer service. Brand new bike, and the shock is leaking. I contacted Iron whors, and they tell me to send the shock to progressive. So they expect me to wait for the shock to be fixed. Meanwhile I'm the owner of a $3000 un-ridable bike. When I asked for an alternative shock to be sent to me, I got the silent treatment. So lesson learned. Do not buy another Iron horse. Read reviews of components that are on the bike. Make sure to put high end purchases on a credit card so the credit company can get your money back. I'll be riding an epiphany soon!
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Billy Brough
a Cross Country Rider
from Hawkes Bay, NZ
Date Reviewed: April 11, 2006
Strengths: Frame geometry seems excellent. Had a few fun and games setting up the Ario shock, but after trial and error, it seems to function well. Have moved from XT/XTR to Sram X9 and wouldn't go back if I had a choice.
Weaknesses: Frame is heavier then hard tails i've owned, but you have to expect this with the rear end configeration.
Bottom Line:
I like it. Climbs pretty well, but really gets cool points in decent mode. The Ario and Reba combo works very well together. Sram componentyr is golden.
I have improved time and endurance in long decents quite a bit. Didn't really want to move from hard tail, but this ride works well. Recommended.
I love this bike because of its all mountain characteristics. It's solid and can climb better than any bike I've ever ridden...even my Trek 8000 hardtail! The suspension is fantastic. The only gripe are the eggbeater candy pedals. I had to cut up my shoes just to get these things to clip in and out. They still provide absolutely no float...even with 2 spacers. OVERALL: It's a blast to ride.
Strengths: Durable. Light enough to race and tough enough for the big hills. Reliable.
Weaknesses: A little heavy, but you get used to it because it rides so well!
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I Love this bike! I have thrashed it daily for almost 2 years. I've proabably got close to 4,000 hard miles on this bike. Other than the initial frame break on the 03, the 04 frame has been bullet proof.
Suspension is Swinger 3 way shock and Fox float RLC fork. It's a great combo. Very plush with the swinger SPV set to minimun 50#.
The shimano XTR rear DR has been replaced with a Sram X0 with appropriate shifters. although they both work great right out of the box, the Sram seem to hold up better when it gets crudded up.
The original Maxxis Larson tires (ugh) were quickly replaced with Hutchinson Spiders (hmmmm) which were quickly replaced with Gen II Air Lights (OK) which were changed to Panaracer XC 2.0's (YES!). All these tires were tubeless and I love tubeless! Squirt in a little Stans and I never have to worry!
Mavic Crossmax wheels are bulletproof. I check them regularly because I'm used to doing that on my other rides (looking for broken spokes, bent flanges, cruddy brearings, etc) but I have never had to toch these wheels. Incredible!
Head bearings are Cane Creek and require some attention to keep them clean. Shimano Hollowtech crank and outboard bearing set-up is nice. I lost one bearing after about a year when the seal was somehow torn and allowed crud to get in. Replacement bearing was $40 (ouch!)
The ride that this bike delivers is incredible. Very smooth on the small bumps, good handling over the big stuff...turns well (with the right tires!) Brakes are great..Hayes...good modulation...no maintenance prob's.
Similar Products Used: K2 Razorback, Specialized Epic Marathon
Bike Setup: Pretty much stock 03/04 model (03 components on a 04 warranty frame)
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Neil
a Cross Country Rider
from Scotland
Date Reviewed: October 10, 2005
Strengths: DW Linkage is excellent - provides a solid platform for the shock and keeps the bike very solid when climbing, I have my 5th element set quite firm (95ifp/100main - I weigh 67kg)(it has worked brilliantly so far despite the scary reviews.. I'll post again if it breaks) and can push hard climbing with little to no bob, but still get full travel on bigger drops and jumps.
The bike is amazingly stable and predictable descending, inspiring confidence on fast jumpy terrain and tracking brilliantly on steeper technical ground. I haven't dead dropped anything much bigger than 3 feet or so yet on it, but it sucks them up without bottoming and makes landing easy. SRAM X9 shifters seem excellent too, thumb only is the way forward. Smooth & totally reliable so far.
Componentry is generally excellent, Hayes brakes have behaved well so far, Rock Shock Pikes are plush, solid & work great though the lockout cap is a bit flimsy & floaty.
Weaknesses: A wee bit heavy, but not so that it holds the bike back at all on more technincal ground. Only time I've noticed the difference is on longer gradual fireroad climbing sections. Paint on mine seems to be wear & scratch a touch easily. Have switched the front tire - may be imagining it but I think I was getting the stone bashing others have commented on? Seems better now.
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Overall a brilliant machine, not a bike you're going to win XC races on maybe, but one which climbs tricky ground very well and comes down again even better - will get you through harder sections than you thought possible and leave you smiling. Were it to be stolen tomorrow - I'd go out and replace with another just the same. Stable, predictable solid, fun.
Similar Products Used: Lightspeed Niota Al, Specialised FSR - but both only briefly.
Bike Setup: Stock, but switched front tire to a Continental Diesel
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Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Fountain Hills, AZ
Date Reviewed: September 7, 2005
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This is a followup to my review that I posted nearly a year ago. The bike in question is a 2004 Iron Horse Hollowpoint Expert. My earlier (one month) review focused on setup issues. This one year review focuses more on maintenance and reliability issues.
I really, really like this bike. The rear suspension is awesome. It pedals well through rough terrain with negligible pedal induced bob. I had purchased this bike to keep me on the trails while my Specialized Enduro was in the shop due to a cracked frame. (I'm on my fourth Enduro frame now.) I had intended to use the Hollowpoint as a "backup" to the Enduro. However, I was almost immediately blown away by the Hollowpoint's pedaling efficiency. Over time, I found myself riding the Hollowpoint more and more, and now the Enduro is relegated to backup (and loaner) status. I found myself increasing the length of my rides. I was able to ride further, more often, with less fatique. I estimate that I now have close to 5000 miles on my Hollowpoint.
The Hollowpoint frame has been very reliable. By way of comparison, I had cracked two Enduro frames in the space of a year's time. The paint on the underside of the Hollowpoint's down tube and back of the seat tube has been pitted by rocks, but this is not unexpected over the course of a year's worth of hard riding.
Unfortunately, much of the damage was caused during the first week of riding due to the Maxxis Hansventure tires. These tires peppered the frame with an almost constant barrage of tiny rocks. Apparently not all riders have problems with these tires. I think it depends on where you ride. The trails I ride have a lot of the wrong size of rock - around the size of a popcorn kernel or perhaps slightly bigger. If I had kept these tires on the bike, there likely wouldn't be any paint left in the problem areas. I've had Panaracer Cinders on the bike since disgarding the Hansventure tires. I've gone through several sets of the Cinders and am most pleased with them.
Tires aside, the Hollowpoint Expert's component selection was quite impressive, especially for the price. That said, I did have a few problems and reliability concerns.
I went through two ISIS bottom brackets during the year, both the original Truvativ BB and a supposedly heavier duty cousin. I learned that ISIS bottom brackets are prone to bearing problems due to their small size. I briefly considered an ISIS solution with outboard bearings, but in the end opted for a Shimano Hollowtech II crankset. Time will tell if this was a wise investment or not. Bottom bracket aside, the Truvativ cranks and chain rings that came with the bike held up well.
I also had problems with the Manitou Black Platinum (w/ SPV) fork. On paper, this looks like a great fork. It offers 90-120mm of adjustable travel and gives the rider a platform via the SPV damping technology. Unfortunately, the SPV valve in the fork got stuck open fairly early on, though it took me a while to recognize this fact. It may even have been defective when I bought it. It took Answer's customer support several months and repeated calls to send me a new SPV damping assembly. I tested the fork with the new damping assembly, but even with minimal SPV pressure, the Black Platinum gave me a much harsher ride than I had become accustomed to. Another drawback to the Black Platinum is that there's no real way to set the sag aside from swapping springs. (And forget about fine tuning the sag; it's just not possible.) On the plus side, this fork is fairly easy to work on if you like to do your own maintenance.
In the interim, while waiting for Answer Products to send me a replacement SPV assembly, I had installed a Fox Vanilla RLC fork on my Hollowpoint. I really like the Vanilla RLC. It has given me a plush, reliable ride. The Vanilla RLC is user serviceable - I've done one oil change so far. I rarely use the lockout, but the low speed compression damping adjustment is worth having. I have no complaints worth mentioning.
I also had problems with the Manitou Swinger 3-way (rear) shock. At around the five month mark, I noticed that the amount of shaft protruding from the air sleeve portion of the shock had decreased, making it no longer possible to get full extension. This affected the sag adjustment; more air was required in the main air spring, resulting in a harsher ride. The shock was bottoming more often. Increasing the SPV presure no longer increased the amount of platform and the rebound adjustment no longer worked. Manitou rebuilt the shock and got it back to me in about two weeks. At around the ten month mark, the shock needed to be rebuilt again. (Note: You ought to run minimal SPV pressure in the Swinger 3-way. The Hollowpoint's DW-Link suspension does not require much, if any, platform from the shock. I only attempted to increase the SPV pressure as a means of diagnosing the problems with the shock.)
Answer has provided a service manual for the Swinger 3-way on their web site, but in my opinion, it's not user serviceable unless you have some fairly specialized tools.
When I first had problems with the Swinger 3-way at around the five month mark, I began to test a replacement solution in the event that the 3-way's reliablity problems should prove to be chronic. I rode with a Fox RP3 on my Hollowpoint for a few months, but its performance was somewhat disappointing. The RP3 feels overdamped even in the (-) propedal setting. Oddly enough, the shock sometimes felt better in the middle (light propedal) setting. I think the low speed compression damping filtered out the trail noise that caused the shock to wallow leaving it in a better position to absorb the significant bumps.
I sent the RP3 to PUSH Industries and like it better now. So far, I've only done significant testing of the (-) setting. The ride provided by Swinger 3-way vs the PUSHed RP3 is quite different. The Swinger 3-way feels cushier at times, but it also has a tendency to blow through much of its travel on relatively small bumps. The PUSHed RP3 is more judicious in its use of travel, but, as a result, feels harsher at times than the Swinger 3-way. The PUSHed RP3 feels good at speed through severely rocky terrain. I plan to use the PUSHed RP3 as the primary shock and the Swinger 3-way as a backup. The warranty period is up now on the Swinger 3-way, and I do not wish to pay to have it rebuilt every 5 months or so.
The Mavic Crossland wheels have been mostly trouble free. I did have a problem with a rattle in the rim of the front wheel. Apparently, the sleeve used to hold the rim together during welding had come free and was sliding around. A small amount of quick setting epoxy injected into the rim cured this problem. Shortly after a cassette change, the freehub had stopped engaging. I disassembled the freehub, lubed it, and reassembled. All was well afterwards. I'm running slime tubes in the Panaracer Cinders that I have mounted on these wheels. I don't know if it's the Cinders or the wheels, but I'm getting significantly fewer flats than I had been in the past on my Enduro's wheels. I've also noticed that I'm able to run with less pressure than I used to on the Enduro's wheels. As noted in my earlier review, it can be a pain getting the tires off the Crossland rims if you don't do it right. Pushing the entire bead into the small channel in the middle of the rim makes it fairly easy to get tires off the wheel.
I wore out several chains in the course of the year, but this is not surprising. What was surprising is that I needed to replace the SRAM cassette at around the 10 month mark. The Shimano cassette on my Enduro has been going strong for over two years. I installed a SRAM PG-990 cassette in place of the original. If it too lasts less than a year, I'll switch to a Shimano cassette next time.
The FSA headset has worked well. I particularly like the "split" crown race as this makes it easy to swap forks. I've had three different forks on my Hollowpoint at various times and swapping the crown race from one fork to another takes less than a minute. There's a slightly gritty sound coming from the bottommost headset cartridge bearing. I've puchased a (higher quality) replacement bearing, but have not needed to use it yet.
The front and rear derailleurs have also worked well. I had some rear shifting problems at around month 10, but this turned out to be a cable that had frayed near the shifter. I get a slight chain rub against the front derailleur in some gear combinations that no amount of adjustment has fixed. I've just adjusted the derailleur so that it doesn't rub much in the gear combinations that I use most frequently. (As adjusted now, the rubbing is particularly bad in the high gears using the middle or large chain rings.)
The Hayes HFX-9 brakes have performed well. They have more than enough stopping power and offer a lot of control. The original rotors became worn in the middle where there is less rotor material. (The original rotors have large oval cutouts situated around the rotor surface. There's very little rotor material in the middle of the braking surface.) I've replaced those rotors with ones that ought to (hopefully) provide a more uniform distribution of rotor material along the braking surface. (One is a Hayes V-cut rotor; the other is an Avid rotor. I want to see which fairs better...) Anyway, the concave (due to wear) cross section of the original rotors were causing the pads to wear unevenly (in a convex shape). This became enough of a problem that one of the pad retention springs became damaged during one of my rides. By way of comparison, the Shimano rotors on my Enduro have lasted longer. However, the Shimano rotors have much smaller cutouts (only tiny holes). Also, the pad material used with the Shimano brakes is different; it's probably less abrasive. I've serviced both the Shimano and Hayes brakes. In my opinion Shimano brakes are easier to refill and bleed. The Hayes brakes use DOT brake fluid (instead of mineral oil) which is nastier stuff. That said, there are most likely performance advantages associated with both the more abrasive pads and the DOT fluid.
In my past review, I dinged Iron Horse for lack of documentation regarding suspension set up. Iron Horse now has this information on their web site, so I'm giving perfect marks in this review. I still think the Hollowpoint Expert was a good value even though I had problems with several of the components. (These problems weren't the fault of Iron Horse, so I'm not counting that against them.) What's more important to me though is the quality of the ride offered by the bike. It is simply outstanding. I highly recommend this bike for trail and XC use.
Bike Setup: Fox Vanilla RLC fork, Time Z pedals, Thomson seatpost, Shimano XT M760 crankset, Terry Fly saddle, Panaracer Cinder tires, PUSHed RP3 rear shock.
Strengths: This is for the 2004 Expert: Awesome downhill and climbs technical uphills great - my 1st bike with disks and love them. What I love is that I can just go thru/over a lot of smaller technical stuff that I used to have to pick carefuly lines with (my old bike really sucked)
Weaknesses: Rear suspension took a few rides to sort out but now it just rules(thanks to the MTBR Ironhorse board for tips - you guys rule!) - weakness is that I had to do a lot of research to figure it out is all. A litle heavy, but that is a small beef. My buddy's Blur is faster on flat ground but I smoke him on technical uphill and downhill.
Bottom Line:
Kick ass deal with nice components - really fun to ride on east coast roots and rocks - just soaks them up. Can climb stuff I never could before. I love this bike and I really love the deal I got!
Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Fort Collins, CO
Date Reviewed: August 30, 2005
Strengths: Components are absolutely top notch. Zero pedal bob. Hydraulic brakes!
Weaknesses: A little heavy at 32.5 lbs. Saddle isn't the best.
Bottom Line:
Good Colorado bike. Not a true XC speedster bike, more of an all-mountain bike given the longer travel suspension and beefier frame. Absolutely unbeatable deal.
Weaknesses: NONE YET, TOO SOON. OK, MAYBE THE CRANKSET.
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THIS IS THE 2005 MODEL HOLLOWPOINT MKIII EXPERT LARGE SIZE. I WEIGH 245 LBS, 6'3". SOLID MUSCLE. OK, OK, STOP LAUGHING. I DID ALOT OF RESEARCH BEFORE I PURCHASED. IT WAS A TOUGH DECISION, WITH THE GIANT REIGN, AND MARIN WOLF RIDGE AS FINALISTS. I DON'T RACE, SO I LEFT OUT THE HIGH PRICED SANTA CRUZ, INTENSE, AND BMC. AS YOU CAN TELL, I PREFER A FOUR BAR VPP TYPE SUSPENSION. WHEN I RAN ACROSS RANDALL SCOTT'S WEBSITE GIVING THEM AWAY, I HAD TO STEAL ONE!
WHEN THE BOX ARRIVED, I TORE INTO IT LIKE A KID AT CHRISTMAS AND STAYED UP ASSEMBLING, WAXING, AND ADJUSTING IT. THE GREEN COLOR IS MUCH MORE APPEALING IN PERSON. THE BIKE LOOKED REALLY SUPER-COOL. TOTALLY UNLIKE ANYTHING YOU SEE AT YOUR TRAILS. THE BUILD QUALITY IS EXCEPTIONAL. THE WELDS, PAINT, FIT, AND OVERALL ATTENTION TO DETAIL ARE SWEET. THE BIKE SHOULD COME WITH BETTER INSTRUCTIONS, A SHOCK PUMP, AND ALLEN KEYS.
THE FIRST RIDE WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT. THE FIFTH ELEMENT SAGGED ALL THE WAY DOWN ABOUT 30 MINUTES INTO THE RIDE. I THOUGHT I WAS SO STUPID TO HAVE DISREGARDED ALL THE BAD PRESS THAT SHOCK RECEIVED. THE FORK IS, HOWEVER, A REAL GEM LIKE ALL THE REVIEWS STATE(PIKE RACE). WHEN I GOT HOME, I PUMPED UP THE MAIN CHAMBER OF THE FIFTH AGAIN. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SINCE, AND IT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY! ADVICE; BUY A SHOCK PUMP, REMEMBER TO TAKE IT WITH YOU ON THE FIRST RIDE, UNDERSTAND HOW TO SET THE SHOCK, MONITOR THE SAG CAREFULLY DURING BREAK IN, IF YOU SINK DOWN, STOP RIDING, YOU MAY DAMAGE THE SHOCK.
SUBSEQUENT RIDES HAVE ALLOWED ME TO FINE TUNE THE SUSPENSION AND FIT OF THE BIKE. I AM FLYING NOW! I LIKE THE FORK WITH 20 MM AXLE, THE REAR SHOCK, THE SRAM DERS AND SHIFTERS, THE EASTON BARS, STEM, AND POST, THE HAYES BRAKES, THE MAVIC WHEELS, WTB HUBS,AND THE CRANK BROS PEDALS. I EVEN LIKE THE FIZIK SEAT! THE CRANK IS THE ONLY WEAKNESS TO ME. IT IS KINDA FLEXY. NOT GOOD FOR A BIG GUY.
IF YOU ARE A BIG GUY WHO BREAKS STUFF BUT STILL WANTS TO SCREAM DOWN SINGLE TRACK AND CLAW UP HILLS LIKE THOSE LITTLE JOCKEYS ON ULTRALIGHTS, THIS IS IT! YOU WILL WANT TO TAKE IT TO BED WITH YOU! JUST DONT GET SUCKERED INTO BUYING THE WRONG SIZE BIKE. THERE ARE MANY WEB DEALERS MISREPRESENTING THE SIZING. THERE ARE SOME LEFTOVER 21" BIKES BEING PUSHED HARD. OH YEAH, YOU WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR BIKE THAN IF YOU SPEND 50% MORE ON A SANTA CRUZ.