Strengths: Everyone says it is the frame, and it is true-blue. You will wreck your body before you wreck this frame. Three hospital visits and she rolls fine! The "Rock Shocks" do fine for attacking city curbs head-on or logs and branches while off-trail.I would not ride without a multi-suspension as with the "Warp" system
Weaknesses: Could be graphite and with thirty gripping speeds and under $10,000.00? Is thia possible?
The best by far for city, country, trail, or off-trail all combined.
Date Reviewed: July 6, 2012
Strengths: Rock solid frame. I love the ergonomics of this bike. It is a good climber and feels steady as she goes on the downhills. Of course, this is all dependent on any such upgrades that you might make to the bike. I upgraded the lot but the frame is the key and I really rate it.
Weaknesses: Weak stock components but isn't upgrading half the fun? Also, I found that when I tried to upgrade to a better rear derailleur (shimano xt shadow) the longer cage length really interfered with my tires whilst in the higher gears. Went to a medium cage length, which cleared the tires, but now I get a lot of noisy chain slap when ripping the downhills. Saying that, just stuck a $15 lizard skin on and we're good to go.
A solid frame ripe for upgrading. Don't pay too much up front, save your readies for some upgrades and you'll be happy as Larry. Guaranteed.
a Weekend Warrior
from pachuca,hgo. mexico
Date Reviewed: January 2, 2011
Strengths: CHEAP, STRONG, GIVE MORE THAN WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT !!! AND OF COURSE, CAME WITH CHEAP COMPONENTS BUT YOU CAN UPGRADE LATER !!! THE FRAME IS WHAT IT COUNTS !!!
Weaknesses: THE ROUTE OF THE REAR DISC BRAKE WAS THE ONLY THING I FOUND WRONG WITH THIS BIKE, ANYTHING ELSE NONE !! ITS A SHAME, GIANT DONT DO ANYMORE THIS MODEL !!
ITS A GREAT BIKE !!! YOU CANT GO WRONG WITH THIS BIKE, WAS MY FIRTS TIME DUAL SUSPENSION BIKE AND I STILL LOVE IT !!! ITS A GREAT ALL MOUNTAIN BIKE, I DONT KNOW WHY THEY PUT THIS BIKE IN THE CATEGORY XC !!! MAYBE BECAUSE BRAND NEW COMES WITH SR SUNTOUR FORK 100MM, 21 GEARS SHIMANO, V BRAKES. BUT AFTHER TIME YOU CAN UPGRADE ALL THE COMPONENTS WHEN WEAR OUT. AND THE RESULT IS A GREAT BIKE !!! I WISH GIANT MAKE THIS MODEL AGAIN, BECAUSE FOR MY POINT OF VIEW, WAS A GREAT BIKE PLUS CHEAPER IN THAT TIME COMPARE WITH OTHER BRANDS !! GIANT RIGHT NOW HAVE THE MODEL YUKON FS BUT AT LEAST HERE IN MEXICO I THINK IS EXPENSIVE ALMOST ABOUT 1000 BUCKS !! COMPARE BACK IN TIME GIANT WARPS WAS NOT EXPENSIVE !!
Similar Products Used: JAMIS DAKAR COMP AND XLT, BULLIT 2009 SANTACRUZ, OTHERS
Bike Setup: UPGRADE EVERYTHING : ILL BEEN RIDING THIS BIKE FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS, BUY IT FROM DEALER, MIX OF : MARZOCCHI 44 RLO 2010 140MM TRAVEL, BRAKES STROKER TRAIL 185MM, MAVICS CROSSLANDS WHEELS, 9 GEARS SHIMANO DEORE, JOPLIN SEATPOST, SLX REAR D., MAXXIS IGNITORS 2.35 TIRES, FRAME WITH THE ORIGINAL SHOCK HV.
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: September 11, 2009
Strengths: Great Entry Level Full Suspension Mountain Bike For The Money.Great Frame Durabilty Been Bounced Off Cabs And Buses While Riding The Streets Of New York City 5+ Years Still Going Strong.The Components Can Easily Be Upgraded To A Lighter Faster Cross Country Steed Cheaply Making A Good Bike A Much Better Bike
Weaknesses: To Heavy For Intended Purpose Cross Country Race Bike. Front Fork Isn't That Great Depending On How Or Where Riding May Need To Upgrade Fork On Bike For Better Small/Large Bump Compliance. I Totally Suggest Upgrading To Avid BB7 Disc Brakes.Good Brakes Are Definitely Recommended No Matter Where Or How You Ride.
Alright When Used For The Intended Purpose Of Cross Country Racing The Bike Is A Bit Heavy But Excels For Intended Use. Its Also A Capable Downhill Rig, Freeride, Dirt Jump Bike But I Wouldn't Recommend Using It For Those Purpose More Then Once. Depending One Maybe One Time To Many For Those Other Options. My Frame With Me On It Has Been Bounced Off City Buses And Yellow Cabs God Only Knows How Many Times. Got Hit By A Speeding Ambulance Once Bent My Wheel Before I Got The WTB Dual Duty Rims.A Few Scratches. No Cracks Or Dents In It. The Frame Is Great Unless You Have A Specific Need. You Just May Have To Upgrade Some Of The Components To Suit Your Specific Needs
Favorite Trail: Streets Of New York, Lehigh Valley, Pa
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: Bronx Bicycle Center
Similar Products Used: Some Crappy Pacific Bike That Lasted Maybe 6 Months. Raleigh M30.
Bike Setup: Kept Bike Stock Except For The WTB Dual Duty Freeride Wheels Damaged Original Wheels Side Jumping A Side Walk Moving Out Of A Speeding Yellow Cabs Way Versatrac 2.0 Kevlar Belt Tires, Avid BB7 Disc Brakes,Topeak Fenders,DB4LW Speedometer, Slime Tire Liners, Slime Resealable InnerTubes Due To The Amount Of Glass On The Streets Of New York.I No Longer Worry About Flats Now. I Haven't Had To Change A Tire In 4+ Years With The Set Up I Have On My Wheels.
a Cross Country Rider
from oakland, ca. USA
Date Reviewed: May 11, 2007
Strengths: strong frame...stock rear shock is actually usable, shorter chainstays as well as decent shock make it a pretty decent climber...
Weaknesses: stock parts are pretty weak, but then again that's how they meet this price point. fork is crap and frame flexes a little from side to side. also kinds noisy
Great starting bike for first timers, though once upgraded it makes for a really nice ride. I was getting really bad chainsuck until i got my drivetrain dialed in, once the limit screws were set right...it never missed a beat. I have heard bad things about both the WARP and the Kingpin Stance and i gotta say...I love then both! they both require setting up, before they function, but dollar for dollar together they make the best valued bike around. throw in a high end groupo and you're keeping up with your friends on their $2000+ bikes. I call this bike my "orphan bike" because every part of it i got cheap from some who just didn't want to take care care it. the frame from someone who bought a santa cruz, the fork from someone who popped a $10 seal, the entire groupo from someone who likes "trigger shifters", the wheels from someone who wanted something black...all together i spent $500 and my LBS says it rides as good as anything on their floor (cheapest is $1200)
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain Home AFB, ID, USA
Date Reviewed: January 4, 2007
Strengths: I love it all but the fork. The frame and rear shock are great and handle well. The frame has a lifetime warranty.
Weaknesses: The fork is junk, but I replaced them. Cranks are square taper but they haven't failed... yet
I upgraded my bike because I wanted to not because i had to. The forks are easy to bottom if you drop more than a foot or two, but you can get a nice fork for a few hundred bucks. I would have loved to get a Reign or something made for All-mountain but I didn't have the money at the time. But, do I regret not waiting and getting a better bike... NO WAY!!! For the $1400 (all together) I have spent on this bike, I can't find a better one. I love the components, the frame is plenty strong for a good 6-7ft drop, and the brakes have way exceeded my expectations. I can bomb a hill and the brakes are fine. No wash out. I would give the Warp 10 flamin turds if I could. If you find one you won't be disappointed. This is the best $500 F/S bike you can buy.
Bike Setup: Warp frame, original cranks, FOX Float RL forx, Shimano XT hydraulic disc, XTR 6in rotors, XT deraillers, XT dual control levers, XT centerlock hubs, Sram 11-32 cassette, Sun rhyno-lite rims.
a Cross Country Rider
from van island
Date Reviewed: December 24, 2006
Strengths: very stiff torsionlly slack frame angles short chain stay this frame is very beefy and a little heavy
Weaknesses: giant has done a good job with this frame. it has one weak weld on the swing arm. mine broke. got a shop to weld in some small plates now 10 times stronger
with the right parts this bike is as good as a joker or foes single pivot.short chain stay makes it climb and not unweight the rear wheel. slack head angle allows you to go down very steep almost like a dh rig. this bike is very stiff and can be thrown around on drops and bumps.this bike just feels very secure in any situation.i ride a joker, enduro pro, giant ac,. the warp is siffer than the enduo or the ac, climbs better than the ac and is all around a little better than the joker.
a Cross Country Rider
from Bronx, New York
Date Reviewed: September 23, 2006
Strengths: Frame Is Very Durable If Kept In Mind That It Is an Entry Level Bike Not For Downhill Or Aggressive All Mountain Riding.
Weaknesses: Rider limitations. Drive Train Can Be Upgraded Depending If Your Going To Use For Racing.
All Around Great Bike For The Money And Intended Use. Depending On If Used Primarily For Urban Or Mountain Use May Have To Upgrade A Few Components For Specific Riding Styles. I Upgraded The Tires And Added Tire Liners Due To The Amount Of Glass On The Streets Of New York.I Added The Disc Brakes Due to Yellow Cabs Stop Short To Pick Up Fares And Don't Care If Your Riding Behind Them So Needed The Extra Stopping Power. Have Had A Few 3+ Feet Drops In Central Park. Might Need a Plusher Seat If Riding For More Then 4 Or 5 Hours. May Need To Tune Up The Shock To Reduce Bobbing.May Need To Upgrade The RST Fork.
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain Home AFB, Idaho
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2006
Strengths: Everything but the forks. Frame is strong. The rear shock is easy to setup and rides nice.
Weaknesses: RST forks.
For 500 dollars this bike is awesome. The forks need upgraded, but you can get a Marzocchi fork for 200 bucks. I went a little overboard with the Fox Float, but after riding this bike I couldn't justify another 700 for the Reign. It was nice but so was the Warp. The disc brake will be on soon but aren't required for the bike to be enjoyable. I just wanted disc brakes. THIS IS BY NO MEANS A PRO BIKE SO I DON'T RATE IT AS SUCH. THIS IS AN ENTRY LEVEL FULL SUSPENSION BIKE. (BUT IN MY OPINION IT COULD HOLD ITS OWN)...
Bike Setup: Warp DS-2, Avid BB7 disk, Fox Float 130mm fork, WTB Laserdisc/Mavic 317 Wheels.
a Cross Country Rider
from Oceanside, Ca
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2006
Strengths: A bike you don't feel bad about hammering until you have to beat the rims on the ground to straighten them and your frame breaks. even with a cracked swingarm it took more abuse than I thought before snapping comnpletely. I guess the only strenght abouth this bike is that it is full suspension, isn't steel or cromoly, and wasn't made for wal-mart.
Weaknesses: I agree with the other Corey that this bike is not intended for extensive jumping or downhill. I also busted my rear swingarm and had to replace my cranks, pedals, tires, BB, seatpost, handlebar, and upgrade to a heavire coil to avoid bottoming out on larger drops and reduce the pogo effect.
good bike to ride when you're angry but don't try to go up or down anything for extended periods of time or you will be throwing off a cliff so you don't have to carry it down after something breaks. if you buy this bike plan on wanting more but you won't get it for the price.
Similar Products Used: SEARS FREE SPIRT! ya! (first bike) Schwinn BMX (bearclaws!) myshins still hate me! GT OUTPOST (old school 87 foo!), no shocks, rockhopper hardtail (89?) this POS
Bike Setup: race face crankset & BB, JUDY TT forks, stock rear w/ 800 upgrade on coil, and the rest is on it slast leg and needs to be replace. of course I have changed the tires and had my rims trued, etc. mostly stock.
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2006
Strengths: For the frame: nice glossy looks, strong, sturdy frame, OK enough to slap quality parts and components
Weaknesses: primitive design, heavy
I'm reviewing the Warp DS3 '04 frame only. All DS frames are practically the same that's why I'm putting this here coz it doesn’t make much difference anyway and more importantly there’s no DS3 ‘04 product to review.Side story: I'm not sure whether the DS3 is available in the Asian region only coz based from Giant's 04 catalogue, they only sell the DS1 and DS2 models. (I’m from the Philippines by the way.)
Anyway the frame came with a rear shock that was a complete POf*kinS: cheap elastomers (no coils) housed in an air shock-like casing instead of the standard HV coil shock (which incidentally got mostly positive reviews as a stock component) I dunno if this is a 'cost-cutting measure' of the distributor or if it is the SOP for DS3 models in Asia, but in any case it sucks A$$. Anyway, the cheap "MDU" proprietary “shock” died on me on one long, mildly-technical DH run. I've since replaced it with the DNM RC Burner, which is a cheap but excellent, if heavy, performing plush shock.
The frame is highly underrated compared to more advanced FS frame designs. I've set up my Warp as an all-around trail/play bike so it can pretty much do everything I 'ask' it to: three foot drops, small dirt jumps and urban action, DH runs, XC and single track forays, and even moderate spinning on the road at times.
The Warp used to be very ideal for my ‘kind’: an aggressive trail rider with modest intermediate skills and who wants to do a little of everything (yet mostly leaning towards the 'aggro')
Lately however I'm having a hard time using it on epic all mountain rides (my preferred riding style as of late) or even rides that last beyond five hours so I am now considering to upgrade to a real all-mountain design if the moolah comes soon enough. But it had been very good to me and I could never take that away
Similar Products Used: Doesn't matter. A bunch of hardtails
Bike Setup: Rockshox Tora 318 U-turn (formerly Zokes Drop-Off comp), DNM RC Burner, XT and Deore parts, WTB Mutanoraptor and Motoraptor tires, Sun Ringle Singletrack rims, WTB Rocket V, Ringle Evolution bar, Da Bomb parts, Avid BB7 DBs
a Cross Country Rider
from New Castle, PA
Date Reviewed: March 17, 2006
Strengths: Price, quality frame, mediocre components Stock disc mounts front and rear Full Suspension
Weaknesses: Mediocre components can be upgraded as you see fit and they wear out. Somewhat heavy. The Warp line is being discontinued by Giant. Get them while you still can.
Outstanding full suspension bike for XC/Rough Trails. For the price its unbeatable. Makes for a great fun off-road bike where the full-suspension keeps the bone jarring to acceptable levels. Easily rides over logs, rocks, roots, normal drops, with NO problems. You do need to spend the time to properly setup the suspension with the proper preloads and dampening. Doing so eliminates most (but not all) of the bobbing effect and gives you a great smooth ride over very rough terrain.
Overall, very satisfied with my purchase and look forward to lots more riding and upgrades.
Ignore the reviews from people that are surprised their $500 entry-level bike couldn't take race tracks and 9' drops to flat. It's not a $X000 race, downhill, freeride bike. Duh!
Similar Products Used: Test rode probably 20+ bikes. Trek, Cannondale, Specialized, Gary Fisher, Diamondback, etc. There are better full suspension bikes but they are either MUCH more expensive or utter rubbish (Wal-Mart Bikes).
Bike Setup: Currently stock but planning upgrades.
from Thousand Oaks
Date Reviewed: March 14, 2006
Strengths: Not much, maybe the price before you have to replace EVERYTHING.
Weaknesses: ok. first of all the frame snapped the foks blew and all of the components sucked. almost everything on the bike has been upgraded including the frame. i was given the newest version of the frame after snapping it.
Dont buy this bike unless you want to spend way more money on it than its worth. Its fine if you dont plan on doing anything bigger than rolling off of a curb. but if you plan on gapping 14 stair sets then your going to snap the frame. but the bike is fine after you replace EVERYTHING.
Similar Products Used: none besides my friends bikes.
Bike Setup: Marzocchi z1 freeride sl forks, avid disk brakes, truvative hussafelt bars, race face evolve dh cranhs and bash ring, shimano shifters, odi lock on grips, sun double wide rear rim, rhinolite front wheel, irc dh team tires, sram cassette, shimano derailur, and every nut and bolt has been replaced pretty much besides the seat.
Date Reviewed: February 25, 2006
Strengths: This bike is kick ass... very strong frame. This bike takes abuse like no other this price range. All the components are durable.
Weaknesses: none so far.
Great all around mountain bike. I ride complex trails with a lot of speed zones and downhill terrain. This bike is perfect for me as it can handle and adapt well to multiple trail types. The comfortable suspencion adds to the handling. Its also nice how the rear can be adjusted to travel and rebound.
Bike Setup: I've keept it stock mostly, I added an odometer and clips. I dont feel the need to upgrade or change any parts as I've done in the past with other bikes. The parts in this bike are quality, I'll keep the setup as is for now. I have the stealth black and it's beautifull. I get copmplements on it all the time.
I want by a Warp DS2 for 320$.(it works a few)
do you recommand it?
it is my first giant.
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I had to sell my trek 4500 to pay some bills and my roommate has offered to let me use her gian warp ds-2. It seems kinda cheesy looking and seems to have mediocre brakes. But it feels a lot lighter than the 4500. Is it worth taking out onto the trails? thanks.Read More »
Looking for a bike I can ride a little bit around town and on x/c trails, but mainly take to the mountains and downhill. I am new to mtn biking, but have been renting for the last few years.
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So looking for a warp for my first FS bike. Have 2 that i am looking at purchasing used.
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