Gary Fisher Sugar 4+ XC Full Suspension

4/5 (18 Reviews)
MSRP : $1099.99


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Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Andrés a Weekend Warrior from Santiago de Chile

Date Reviewed: December 14, 2011

Strengths:    I bought its in july 2007, and I feel hapy with the bike after i rode a Connondale f300 and decided changed because cannondale was a little hard for may bakc, after all was a good decision the Sugar 4 is soft and confortable in XC tarrain, the suspention (rear and fork) are basic, but works good, I haven´t had problems with them.

Weaknesses:    The transmision sistem coul be better.. and I sugest you to put a disc breakes

Bottom Line:   
Could be the weight, and the transmition system

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Favorite Trail:   Mahuida, San Cristobal

Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $1000.00

Purchased At:   Sparta

Similar Products Used:   none

Bike Setup:   Bontrager components, tires Maxxis.

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Blacksugar a Weekend Warrior from Spartanburg SC

Date Reviewed: June 30, 2008

Strengths:    nice bike good for xc its a decent freeride bike now its done a 6 foot drop on to concrete and its done fine and i am a 6'1 190 pound rider its nice bike for the money its held up very well

Weaknesses:    cheap front fork needs disk brakes and needs a better saddle

Bottom Line:   
it started out as a nice xc bike when i got it now i have moved on to jumps drops and anything else i can find and the bike has held up well but if your doing anything bigger then 7 or 8 foot drops it really just can't take it but hey its not a freeride bike

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Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $1100.00

Purchased At:   Bike Worx

Similar Products Used:   Sugar4 and marlin

Bike Setup:   Ryno lites, race pycho,THE front fender,avid bb5s, cut the seat post so it sits lower and a hussfelt crank and a howitzer BB

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Neurotic a Weekend Warrior from Poznan, Poland

Date Reviewed: June 3, 2006

Strengths:    Very light, very fast. Very cool looking bike.

Weaknesses:    Terribly uncomfortable seat. Problem with ghost-shifting.

Bottom Line:   
Excellent XC MTB for the price.

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Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $1000.00

Purchased At:   Skiteam Poznan

Similar Products Used:   Klein Palamino X


Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Andreas Bastias a Cross Country Rider from Nashville,TN,USA

Date Reviewed: May 1, 2006

Strengths:    Ride Quality: In a word, Plush. The 4 inches of front and rear travel take the edge off of even the rootiest trails, helping eliminate saddle soreness with no thanks to the stock saddle. I should probably also mention the adjustable travel; however, with the comfort of 4 inches I find myself reluctant to switch to the 2.8. With the new tires the bike feels like it's on rails. Overall, I love how the Sugar 4+ feels on rides and how it leaves me feeling after them.

Durability: While I can't yet say how time will treat the bike, if the past three months are any indication, it should definately live up the Gray Fisher name. This bike has taken everything I've dished to it and can definately take more. In addition to extensive single track riding, I've taken it on dirt jumps, moderate downhill, and lots of urban terrain. Even after my countless spills, I still haven't had any problems that couldn't be fixed with a multitool.

Appropriateness: This is a perfect full-susp bike for someone just entering the world of mountain biking. The selection of compontents(Shimano LX,Deore,etc) is geared towards the novice to intermediate rider, providing relaiblitly and quality while still retaining a sense of ability appropriateness and allowing for growth as a rider.



Weaknesses:    Weight: While I haven't ridin many other full suspension bikes, I get the feeling that the Sugar 4+ is a bit on the beefy side of the spectrum. It especially apperant lugging the extra weight up hills. This problem will probably improve over time as the stock components are replaced with newer, lighter ones.

Bounce: Even in the short travel setting I feel some pedal bounce, and again it is especially apperant on long climbs. Not a terribly big issue, but rear lock out would be nice.



Bottom Line:   
First off, I am 5'7", 140 lbs. That noted, this bike fits me like a glove, and the suspension works very well with my weight. I have not experienced alot of the troubles, that some of the bigger riders have mentioned in their reviews. I will say that I have found the front suspension(Manitou Splice Super) to be a little on the soft side,and though it's not really a problem for me, I can see how it might pressent a problem for bigger riders.
I hadn't mountain biked prior to owning this bike(I rode a little bmx), and the improvement in my riding ablity in just the past 4 months has been noticeable. I ride almost everyday and try to do trails weekly. I like that when I'm riding I can concentrate on the trail, instead of worrying about the bike. The drivetrian components are midlevel but I have yet to reach the point where they hinder my riding. The M505 pedals were gone as soon as I had the money; They are not trail worthy and on one muddy ride got so stuck and clogged that they were unridable. The Time ATAC pedals lived up to the hype and immediately improved my confidence on the trail.
For the money, this is an awesome bike. It is absolutely dependable, low maintenance, and an general pleasure to ride. It's certainly not competition worthy(at least not as stock), but it is great for everything short of competition. It is sturdy and forgiving. I would recommend this bike, and Gary Fishers in general, to friends and family. There is a small sticker on the back of the seat tube that says "Man's best friend", and on this bike it couldn't be more true.

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Favorite Trail:   Haw Ridge

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $1200.00

Purchased At:   Cumberland Transit

Similar Products Used:   None. First Full Suspension. Tested Trek Fuel.

Bike Setup:   The bike is still mostly stock,:
+ Time ATAC XS pedals on trails.
+ Primo platforms for street riding and crusing around campus.
+ Maxxis ADvantage 26x2.1 XC tires
+ Cateye Micro Wireless Computer
+ Titec Ithys Gove Titanium Saddle
Will upgrade more as the need arrises and as money becomes available.

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Gary a Weekend Warrior from Eddy, TX USA

Date Reviewed: January 27, 2006

Strengths:    A Great bike. Everything works. I love it. Its my first full suspension bike and i love it. The frame is awsome. The brakes work and LX drivetrain is great.

Weaknesses:    Pedals and fork are a little crappy. will upgrade one i break them. The fork make to much noise.

Bottom Line:   
I got a great deal on this bike. My mom and dad got it for me as a welcome home gift from Iraq. I love it. The bike handles great and the rear shock does pretty good.

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Favorite Trail:   Blora

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $940.00

Purchased At:   Bike Rack, Raleigh, NC

Similar Products Used:   Specialized FSR Demoed.

Bike Setup:   Everything stock.

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by panos gotsis a Weekend Warrior from athens, greece

Date Reviewed: December 14, 2005

Strengths:    Very good geometry. Overall good quality components for the price. Changed since I bought it almost everything (

Weaknesses:    Overall OK. A bit on the heavy side.Crappy seat. BB was found unsealed on one end!

Bottom Line:   
A good bike for the time I manage to spend on it (3-4hrs per weekend). To this date I've upgraded most of its components, but the weight still remains an issue.

Fellow riders: could you recommend an alternative for the rear sus? Although, I've been told that a RL suspension won't do much about the slight sag one experiences on bumpy terrain.

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Favorite Trail:   mt parnis

Duration Product Used:   2 Years

Price Paid:    $1050.00

Purchased At:   Bonthrones UK

Bike Setup:   manitou black comp 80-100mm, LX front and rear derailleurs, cane creek AD-5 rear sus, IRC Mythos tyres, Bontrager stem-seatpost-wheels, V-brakes).

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by Maurice a Cross Country Rider from Missoula Montana

Date Reviewed: November 1, 2005

Strengths:    Not sure as I am not real happy with this bike.

Weaknesses:    The bike just does not feel right. Hard to pedal feels like frame is bound up.

Bottom Line:   
This bike was part of a warranty issue with Gary Fisher. I had a 21” sugar1 team (Excellent bike) the rear triangle cracked. Gary Fisher could not come up with the parts to fix it. After a SEVERAL months I was sent a 19" sugar4+ (which is to small for me at 6'3) Gary Fisher said my sugar1 team was a 19" and not a 21" they were wrong. Now I have this bike that is to small for me and rides like a piece of junk. I wound up buying the whole bike instead of just getting the frame. The bottom bracket was loose after about 10 miles of ride and both hubs had to be readjusted and the wheels had to be trued after about 15 miles of ride time. The cable placement is very poor, it rubs on my leg and if I move it the shifting becomes even worse. Shifting is very poor due to poor quality parts. When I ride the bike I feel like something on the bike is bound up. I am not a pro rider by any means but something is wrong with this bike, as it is not smooth at all. I bought my 4 newly adopted kids brand new Gary Fisher bikes last spring, but now wonder if it was a BIG mistake. The warranty issue has me concerned. How can they send something that is so much of a lesser item then what you originally had? Up to this point I was a very dependable Gary Fisher fan. Have had and still have several Gary Fisher models. Sorry Gary Fisher

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Duration Product Used:   6 months

Price Paid:    $1000.00

Purchased At:   LBS

Similar Products Used:   2003 Fisher sugar1 team, several other Fisher hard tails

Bike Setup:   Stock except king headset

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Mike T a Cross Country Rider from Glenview, IL, USA

Date Reviewed: September 15, 2005

Strengths:    Everything. This bike is the greatest.

Weaknesses:    None that i found yet

Bottom Line:   
This bike kicks ass. It started out as a summer project using the money i made at my summer job before senior year in high school. The plan was to build a lightweight bike. Three grand later, along with a lot of nice stuff, I have this super lightweight bike(I actually only paid 575 bucks for the actual frame though). When i finished, the bike ended up lighter than almost all the hardtails i have ridden! I wouldn't trade this bike for anything. This bike hauls.

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Favorite Trail:   kettle moraine(Wi.)

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $3000.00

Purchased At:   ebay(custom build up)

Similar Products Used:   Giant NRS, Trek Fuel, a bunch of hardtails

Bike Setup:   2005 frame with carbon fiber seat and chain stays, reba team fork w/ remote lockout, u-turn, and motioncontrol, xt hubs, mavic rims, xtr crank, xtr der.'s(mega 9), xtr shifters, xtr shift cables, xtr chain, canecreek s6 headset, easton carbon seatpost, easton monkey carbon handlebars, wtb rocket v saddle, candy sl pedals, carbon bar ends, easton ec70 stem, hayes carbon 9 hydr. disk breaks w/ mud shedding rotors, lizard skin, cateye wireless comp., cane creek cloud nine shock, xtr cassette, wtb dual compound grips...I think that covers it.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Henio a Cross Country Rider from Krakow, Poland

Date Reviewed: August 26, 2005

Strengths:    good supsension, easy to turn

Weaknesses:    SPD Sm M505 Pedals should be change to sth. better,

Bottom Line:   
I like this bike. You can use it in terrain or for the easeast purpes. Good speed change in rear, in front could be better, Fork is very soft, if You prefer harder - set the travel to 90 or 80 mm.

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Favorite Trail:   soft terrain, forest

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Price Paid:    $1200.00

Purchased At:   skiteam Warsaw

Similar Products Used:   my first fullsusp. bike.

Bike Setup:   stok, exept. wheels and brakes - I've changed them to another disc wheels with Hayes HFX 9 brakes, (taken from GF Hoo Koo E Koo Disc)with IRC Serac xc tyres. I've never used my Sugra with v- brakes ! And small thing - the saddle have been changed to Fizik Nisene

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:2
Submitted by Beau Swanson a Cross Country Rider from saskatoon saskatchewan canada

Date Reviewed: August 23, 2005

Strengths:    Light, Comfortable, Fast, when its working right.

Weaknesses:    BB sucks, trashed it in a month and a half. front suspension a little light, b4 firm ride kit upgrade

Bottom Line:   
great starter bike for xc. works well for light riding. if you are doing any major riding you would be better off with something a little heavier, like a cake. other than that i will defiantly get another fisher, love the ride!

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $1100.00

Purchased At:   Crankeys bike shop

Similar Products Used:   None, went from a sportmart specal to this.

Bike Setup:   firm ride kit, race face BB.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Dave Smith a Weekend Warrior from Taftville, CT USA

Date Reviewed: May 26, 2005

Strengths:    This bike flies, seems like no resistance. Takes hits great, not too heavy for full suspension 31 lbs. Nice components.


Weaknesses:    Stock tires slip pretty easily when wet. Would have liked disc brakes.

Bottom Line:   
I feel that this bike is great. I ride 3-4 times a week and this thing just keeps getting better. I plan to ad disc brakes (probably Shimano)when my pads wear out. Fisher did a great job with this Genesis design. I recommend this bike to anyone wanting a quality, comfortable full suspension bike.

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Favorite Trail:   Bluff Point

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $999.00

Purchased At:   Wayfarer Cycles

Similar Products Used:   Test rode: giant, specialized, gt, iron horse. Owned a hardtail giant.

Bike Setup:   Sock. Changed pedals, added mini pump, sm bag, water bottle.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Tim Hines a Weekend Warrior from Mesa, Az

Date Reviewed: January 31, 2005

Strengths:    If you are looking for a good full suspension, without breaking the wallet, then this is the bike for you. Also the 05 comes in a cool looking Orange. Appearances don't mean a thing but it is pretty cool to look at. Manitou Splice.

Weaknesses:    For the most part the components are good to fair at best. If you are more of an everyday rider then upgrades will probably be necessary.

Bottom Line:   
I'm by no means an advid rider but I can assure you, if you have to keep the cost under $1300, then this is the best bang for the buck. I have not experienced any "Chain Suck" or issues with my frame. I would have been happier with a Fox rear shock rather then the Rock Schock Bar adjust. Overall, the bike comes with an agressive set up for the weekend warrior.

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Favorite Trail:   Hawes, Granite Basin

Duration Product Used:   6 months

Price Paid:    $1200.00

Purchased At:   Adventure Cycle, Mesa Az

Similar Products Used:   Specialized FSR series, Trek Fuel 90, Cannondale Jekyll, GT I-Drive

Bike Setup:   Shimano components (Deore LX), Manitou Splice and Rockshock Bar Adjust. Otherwise mostly Bontrager stuff.

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by James LeMieux from Tulsa

Date Reviewed: September 26, 2004

Strengths:    Stiff frame like a hard tail and seems responsive. It's a good technical trail riding bike.

Weaknesses:    I don't get to ride it much because the frame is cracked again. I've owned this bike for a one 1/2 years. I just put the bike back together from a cracked rear swing arm after waiting three months, went on one ride and the front half of the frame has a crack directly under the rear shock. I'm 6'2" tall and weigh 175 to 180 pounds so I'm not a lardo out there pretending to be a pro.

Bottom Line:   
I like Gary Fisher bikes quite a bit. They ride nice when they work. I've lost count of how many Fisher frames I've been through but the company has always been good about replacing my cracked frames. I'm not putting any more stress on the bikes than any of the other guys I ride with but it seems I'm always having to ride on the road to stay in shape because my mountain bike is out of commission. I'm frustrated as now, it appears as though I won't be going to Fat Tire Week in Moab this year as the company isn't very quick in getting a frame back to you on a warranty deal. It took four months last time for the swing arm.

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Favorite Trail:   Turkey Mountain

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Price Paid:    $1000.00

Purchased At:   T-Town Bicycles

Similar Products Used:   Gary Fisher Joshua...the Sugar is an upgrade from having cracked several of those bikes. I rode the Cake in Steamboat Springs Colorado and it felt like the Sugar but looked to have a beefier rear suspension linkage.

Bike Setup:   LX cranks, XTR v-brakes, XTR front duerailler XT rear, Thompson seatpost, Rolf wheels, Manitou suspension in front, Cane Creek AD5 in the rear.

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by Wayne a Cross Country Rider from Battle Creek, MI

Date Reviewed: August 1, 2004

Strengths:    Price, components, and frame geometry. This is the first mountain bike I have owned and I am extremely impressed with how easy it is to ride uphill, downhill, over rocks and logs, through sand, and turns.

Weaknesses:    Build Quality. In the four months I have owned this bike, I have been unable to ride it a month of that time due to repairs of manufacturer's defects.

Bottom Line:   
When this bike is working it works great. I feel confident going through some pretty technical trails and I have been able to hold my own with some expirienced riders after just a few months riding. Unfortunately, as with another reviewer as well as a guy I met on the trail, I had a problem with the rear derailleur cable housing being too short. Also, my original Rock Shox Bar Adjust had an internal leak so sometimes it wouldn't return to an uncompressed state after I got off the bike. I got that replaced with a SID from Rock Shox (thanks SRAM). I then found that my front derailleur cable was rubbing my seat stay due to an improperly placed cable stop. This required a complete frame replacement. Finally with the new frame and fork, the fork was not properly tightened so sand got into the bearings and started crunching. Needless to say, they had to be cleaned and repacked. I will say that everything was taken care of at only the expense of losing a month of riding time, but I expected a little better quality for the money from a reputable company like Fisher. I still love to ride it though.

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Favorite Trail:   Fort Custer

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $940.00

Purchased At:   Velocipede Peddler (not very friendly or skilled)

Similar Products Used:   Cannondale F600, F400

Bike Setup:   Stock except for the Rock Shox SID rear shock which was a factory replacement for the original defective Bar Adjust.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Hoon a Weekend Warrior from Santa Maria

Date Reviewed: July 5, 2004

Strengths:    Great bargain. Tough lightweight frame, handles like a dream, genesis geometry rules. adjustability

Weaknesses:    Brakes are crap. The seat hurts my butt, and now I'm a litte saddle sore. The Axel forks that come with them are way too soft. I can bottom them out on a curb. Although I do weigh 195lbs

Bottom Line:   
Unbelievable steal. I've only ridden it for a week now but it's been a great fricking week. Best bike I've ridden for my price range. Need better brakes though... promax? what the heck is that? Start upgrading as soon as I have some spare money. I'll post again in about 3 months as a follow up.

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Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $900.00

Purchased At:   Pedal Power Bicycles

Similar Products Used:   first full suspension

Bike Setup:   Stock, but traded out the grips for Oury's since those rule. Hate clipless so I just put some platforms on them

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