The XCL is the quintessential trail bike. No other bike in its class can offer the nimble handling, descending stability, and climbing prowess of the XCL. The XCL is a result of years of refinement, resulting in a unique bike that can truly do it all. So whether your on the way up, down, or somewhere in between, the XCL offers unparalleled performance.
Submitted by
bailout
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Cruz Date Reviewed: November 16, 2009
Favorite Trail:
If it's named "Manzanita trail", it must be good
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Direct from Chumba
Strengths:
Stable and neutral geometry, excellent traction when going down and especially when climbing technical stuff, tough frame, tough anodized finish, plush and solid ride. It's possible to build it light but what's the point? This bike begs to be ridden hard.
Weaknesses:
A bit heavy for true XC-only application, a bit of bob if no platform is used when pedaling hard, more standover and a compact frame option please. Won't shine in any smooth and flat XC race courses.
33lbs, utilitarian and cheapo build = 8 year-old handbuilt WTB dual duty rims with shimano XT disc hubs, XT brakes, Rock Shox Revelation 85-130mm coil U-turn, Fox RP23 with factory preset high compression tune and medium rebound tune, Specialized Eskar Control/Resolution tires, Sram X9 shifters, SRAM x7 RD, Shimano XT E-type FD, Sunline lock on grips, Easton 55mm Vice stem, EA50 31.8mm riser bars,
Bottom Line:
This is not a steep-angled XC bike or a super plush freeride bike, it's everything in between. If you are a stronger rider or a rider that's willing to suffer a bit, it's a good bike for technical epics. I've ridden this bike on numerous technical all-day rides that involve anywhere from 6-8K feet of climbing and it's no problem. I'm in the middle of the spectrum in terms of endurance and maybe in the low end in terms of raw power and speed, for reference.
The geometry is just right for steep technical climbs and steep technical descents. Not too stretched out and not too short for the gnarly bombing runs. In fact, this bike has kept me from dismounting more than any other bike that I've ever ridden. The combo of neutral geo, excellent traction and burliness is confidence inspiring. It's made me look for and charge those fabled "uncleanable" tech sections of trail that has everyone else walking, both uphill and downhill. If you want a burly trailbike and are concerned about maintaining traction on tech/bumpy/rooty stuff, this is it. The bike can take a beating with the straight-gauge top and downtubes so you don't have to baby it (might ruin the awesome paintjob/ano finish though). I hope chumba comes up with more tweener sizes. The 19.5" center to top length is a bit too tall for a medium aggro XC/trailbike frame. This bike would be killer with a slightly more compact frame size. I think this bike is in the same category as a SC Heckler which is a pretty damn good trailbike. I was deciding between the 2 and the Chumba won out due to the more active suspension while braking.
On the issue of pedal bob, it does have it when pro-pedal is off. I just flip the switch and it climbs almost like a hardtail. Without pro-pedal, it sinks into its travel a bit more when climbing. Bob isn't noticeable if you are pedaling relatively smoothly too. Not a big deal for me.
No noticeable flex in the rear when standing up and cranking hard on steep climbs.
You shouldn't buy this if you want a lightweight XC bike or spend MOST of your time hucking and jumping stuff. This bike is for those deep backcountry rides where you might encounter steep and rough ups and downs. Oh yeah, it will handle the occasional honest 4-footer and double, just don't do it every single day. There are better bikes for that kind of thing.
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Submitted by
Michael Dorontich
a Cross Country Rider
from Pendleton,SC USA Date Reviewed: October 31, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Issaqueena forest trail system
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2200.00
Purchased At:
Frame, shock & fork
Strengths:
Overall construction is top shelf. Welds are beautiful. Pivots are solid. Where's the beef? The XCL frame has it!!! The thumbs up Chumba devil is the best badge on the market.
Weaknesses:
With the DHX RC4 coil, the resevoir on the shock interferes with the waterbottle. Quick cure is to ovalize the waterbottle cage mount holes so the cage sits lower. Other than this, no weaknesses in this frame.
Similar Products Used:
GT LTS
Bike Setup:
King headset, Titec bar and stem, Lizard Skins grips, Fox 36 Van R fork, Fox DHX RC4 coil shock, Race Face BB and crankset, XT front and rear deraillers, XTR shifters and levers, XT casette, WTB Super Duty 20mm front wheel, Ryno Lite rear wheel, Avid discs, Michelin Hot S tires, Thomson seat post, Selle Italia Flite saddle and Egg Beater pedals.
Bottom Line:
This is the 5th bike that I've built and by far the ultimate ride. My last bike was a GT LTS with similar setup. I didn't think that I would find a true 4 bar bike that would equal the LTS. I happily admit that I was wrong. Not only does the XCL surpass the LTS, it is light years ahead. The frame is perfect for the DHX RC4 and 36 Van fork. It floats over everything that I aim the bike towards. It might be a little heavier than the LTS but it rides lighter. It's easy to manuever through tight singletrack, easy to pedal uphill and when the trail drops......" Fuggitaboutit ". Like my first mountain bike ever, the Chumba XCL has made me feel like a kid with a new bike, flying through the woods without a care in the world. If this is my last build, then I picked the best bike that I could have hoped for. I don't know what a total price for the bike would be because I built it myself, but if you'r looking to buy a bike or a frameset that will thrill you ride after ride and don't want to kill your bank account, this is it.
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Submitted by
EMrider
a Weekend Warrior
from Pasadena, CA Date Reviewed: September 12, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Mt. Pinos
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$2880.00
Purchased At:
Chumba
Strengths:
Frame strength, ergonomics and stable geometry.
Weaknesses:
Arguably weight, if that matters to you.
Similar Products Used:
Owned a Titus motolite for 2 years prior
Bike Setup:
Pike coil 454, DHX 5.0 air, SRAM x9, Avid 5s. Price above is for complete bike from Chumba
Bottom Line:
After more than 2 years, I'm still incredibly happy with this bike. If anything, I'm liking it more because many of my recent rides have been of the classic all mountain variety. Long, with lots of hard climbing and all sorts of downhill from smooth and fast to rocky and technical. I'm not a gazelle and I find the XCL to be an excellent climber. Just dial down the fork, crank up the propedal and go. The suspension is very smooth and makes me feel like a much better rider than I am. Very forgiving. I'm very confident on the XCL when descending and have enjoyed quite a few days of riding at Mammoth.
I have a Fox TALAS on my motolite and the Pike coil is far superior in every way. Incredible fork. At some point, I'll probably give a coil rear shock a try too.
As a package, the XCL is an incredible value and a great ride. Truly a do it all sort of bike that is built strong for years of fun. IMHO, it is more towards the all mountain end of the trail bike spectrum than XC. Mine is about 32lbs which would be on the heavy side for racing.....but I don't race. I just ride for fun.
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Submitted by
GGumz
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, Az Date Reviewed: August 6, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Brian Head bike park Utah
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Frame from Ebay
Strengths:
Strong bike - solid in the climbs and holds your line on the descent. Link system limits pedal bob.
Weaknesses:
Could be lighter but not a major issue as I need a strong bike.
Similar Products Used:
Haro Extreme
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla fork, XT crank, XTR shifters and deraillers, Race Face stem and handlebar, Alien carbon seatpost
Bottom Line:
Great all mountain bike. Good climber for full suspension. Sticks to the singletrack - I've noticed that I now pedal through turns i didn't before this bike. If you need a bike to take anywhere take a serious look at the XCL.
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Submitted by
martino
a Weekend Warrior
from Sonora Mexico Date Reviewed: July 15, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Santa cruz trail and promotorios sierra
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
jj cycles tucson Az
Strengths:
Very good bike if what you want is to go everywhere, very good climber and provides a lot of confidence on decend.
Weaknesses:
A little heavy but efficent.
Similar Products Used:
Giant trance, Speciallized enduro, K2 5.0 lithium, currently I have another nice bike, Intence 5.5 FRO a really nice bike
Bike Setup:
Fork Talas 32 RCL, Mavic Cross trail rims, Kenda nevegal tires 2.35, hayes el camino brakes 180 front and 160 rear, crank truvativ, everything else XT, Sunline post 65mm All mountain, and sunline handle bar
Bottom Line:
Very nice bike for the price, compared with my intense FRO which is much more expensive, you will not notice any difference while climbing, less on thecnical climbs, in fact the talas helps a lot on thecnical clims changing to 120mm, host link provides a lot of efficience, I recommend to turn off the propedal on thecnical clims then rear tire will not slide, it is all way uo glued to the road, on decends the bike really booms, this bike provides you a great confidence, the only difference between this and the intense is on long distance, after 20 miles you can notice some difference. Anyone who is not afraid of the weight and looks for a lot of fun should buy it, i would not recommend this product for a XC racers. This bike is about 30 pounds and rocks.
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Submitted by
Horacek
a Weekend Warrior
from Manchester, UK Date Reviewed: April 20, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Too many!!!
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Lovely paint job. Attention to detail. The headbadge is a nice touch. Relatively light.
Weaknesses:
The paintjob chips- old school? (as mentioned below). Head angle is alittle steeper than Im used to. Might switch from Pikes to a longer fork.
Im still trying to figure out the correct setting for the RP23 shock. It feels either squishy or too firm. Tips appreciated!
Similar Products Used:
Everything.
Bike Setup:
Pikes, King rear wheel, Hope hoop front, XT chainset, King headset, Thomsons and XTR rear mech.
Bottom Line:
Just had my fifth ride. 2x Peak District, 2xLakes and 1 in the North Downs Surrey. So Im still getting used to how it rides/set up etc.
Will post back when Ive swapped for a shorter stem, changed saddle etc etc etc.
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Submitted by
RJG
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Cruz Date Reviewed: April 12, 2009
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Adrenaline Cycles/E
Strengths:
Solid construction and suspension design. Horst link design with the beefiest welds and tubing you could imagine.
Weaknesses:
Heavy if you care (I don't). E type BB. Sizing is tricky and I'd recommend trying some sizes ahead of purchase.
Similar Products Used:
Marin East Peak and Titus Racer X.
Bike Setup:
Medium with 100mm stem. Rock Shox Revelation U-Turn Dual Air. RP23 rear shock. 2x8 XT drivetrain.
Bottom Line:
This frameset performs as advertised and feels great to ride as a "trailbike" not a cross country bike. The geometry and the recommended set up is not traditional XC oriented and was not intended to be. This bike is confidence inspiring and begs you to rip, I think it laughs at the obstacles that terrify me. If you are looking for a fun rig that you can do 2500 feet of climbing on while bombing the decent then go for it. If you are lining up for a XC race then look elsewhere.
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Submitted by
coolj01
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County, CA Date Reviewed: February 18, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Rockit
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2200.00
Strengths:
The frame is very strong with great welds. Can be set up to do whatever kind of riding you want. Great local company. Great Customer Service. Paint is great and holds up.
Weaknesses:
Wont break so wont allow me to go bike shopping.
Similar Products Used:
SC Nomad, Intense 5.5. Specialized Enduro
Bike Setup:
XCL, Fox Talas 36, XT Cranks, XO shifters and rear, Thomson stem & Seatpost, Maxxis Ardent (Front), Kenda Nevegal (Rear), Hope Wheels.
Bottom Line:
Bottom line is this bike really shouldn’t be in the XC category. The good news is if you want a bike that you can take up the mountain as well as it goes down this is the bike for you. This bike makes me look like a sissy...it begs for more then I can give every ride. I wanted a bike that I can go up, go down, huck and thrash and this is the one. Don’t get me wrong the biggest hucks I’m doing is about 5ft. I have this bike at exactly 30lbs with a 160mm fork and DHX Air but it took some money to get there. Geometry is spot on, paint is bulletproof, welds and extra supports are amazing. If you are looking for a bike that you point and go no matter where it is this is the bike for you. If you are looking for a skinny little sissy rig with puny little tires…look elsewhere.
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Submitted by
jahred
a Cross Country Rider
from Surrey, UK Date Reviewed: December 10, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Afan
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
Chumba Racing
Strengths:
Nimble, fast, strong, super responsive bike.
Customer service second to none.
Weaknesses:
Rear triangle bolts need loc-tite. Red on the drive chain side.
At a push, stock Chumba skewers are too short, but easy to change.
Similar Products Used:
Kona Coiler
Bike Setup:
Chumba XCL Comp Kit
Bottom Line:
Eventually managed to take the bike out to Afan on the weekend, so this is an initial review. I'm no fan of the climb, but the only time I was overtaken by anybody was while waiting for my mate at the top of each climb. This beast climbs as good as can be expected. On the descent, some numpty started very close behind me on one particularly gnarly section. I was acutely aware that he was right behind me and was pretty much forced to abandon the brakes and go hell for leather. The XCL swallowed everything up and then some. At the end of the trail, I turned around to an empty trail which remained like that for several seconds. Quite impressed as I'm no downhill junkie either. This thing fills me with way too much confidence. Bombing down the trails it quickly becomes apparant that I'm travelling faster over tricky terrain than ever before, and still trying to go faster. I only have the Kona Coiler (which I absolutely loved) to compare with, but for an all round super fun ride you'll be hard pressed to do better at this price.
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Submitted by
rojomas
a Weekend Warrior
from Cucamonga Date Reviewed: November 23, 2008
Favorite Trail:
If I told ya I'd hav'ta kill ya
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Ebay/Used
Strengths:
Solid constrution, No bushing pivots all sealed bearings, Top notch customer service
Weaknesses:
Maybe the weight if you're a weight weenie.
Similar Products Used:
Very similar design to my old GT Team LTS, GT LTS-1, and GT DS 1000 other than the shock location and the sealed bearings.
Bottom Line:
I don't think the Chumba XCL should be in the XC catagory. In my opinion it's more of a trail bike or AM bike because it's not the lightest frame around(about a pound more than most XC bikes) , It has 5" inches of travel which is about 1" inch more than most XC bikes, It doesn't have XC geometry(I hate XC geometry which is usually a bit more twitchy). I know people rave about it's climbing ability but I think it feels a little slugish compaired to my Foes FXR, but I may have to mess with the Fox DHX a little bit more to make it climb better. But for an aggresive trail rider it's supper sooooth, Eats up single track as if it's on rails. Handles great. I know that I said it feels slugish but I've climbed things on it I never been able to clean before. Bottom line, this is a great all around trail bike which is super fun to ride.
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Submitted by
allgrainbrewer
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland Date Reviewed: November 15, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Today? Coyote Canyon!
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At:
adrenaline bikes/uni
Strengths:
Very comfortable size. Very resilient. Clean welds. Solid design! Fun, fun, fun! Bike scampers uphill with class. Descends with grit. So far it's tough as nails. Confidence instilling ride. Very capable.
Weaknesses:
Few to none. The Chumba seat collar isn't the smoothest, their lock-on grips are nice and sticky though.
Similar Products Used:
My first 5"+ bike.
Bike Setup:
Hope ProII hubs, Hope mono-mini brakes, XT/XTR drivetrain, Pike 454 dual air fork, Thomson post/stem, Fox DHX air shock, Nevegal/Telonix tires
Bottom Line:
Buy this bike if you want to have fun and become a trail wizard. Don't buy this bike if you're allergic to clearing obstacles or having a blast. I love the Chumba XCL. It's brought my mtb game up a couple of notches. At 30.25 lbs. it's very versatile. Great for XC days when 2/3 of the time I'll be pedaling up the hill and super fun on shuttle days when tearing downhill is the point. I've become notably better at both since the Chumba's been rolling. It's proven to be responsive enough to tackle challenging, root and rock infested climbs and burly enough for me to let off the brakes and point it through some rough without second guessing it. I'd give it 5 chilis all around but I need to rock it for a couple more years.
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Submitted by
tundraline
a Cross Country Rider
from Lyons, CO Date Reviewed: October 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Hall Ranch
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$4400.00
Purchased At:
Bitterbrush Cycles
Strengths:
Excellent performance, strong frame, climbs well and loves the downhill.
Weaknesses:
Frame is a little heavy compared to the competition (but it's a burlier bike and more robust). Screws connecting rear triangle to the frame and suspension rocker arms to the frame WILL COME LOOSE unless you put Loctite BLUE on the threads.
XTR crank, derailleurs, shifters; Juicy 7 brakes; Fox Talas fork; Fox DHX 5.0 rear shock; Salsa Moto Pro bars; easton seatpost; WTB Rocket V saddle; Mavic Crossmax wheels (love these); Bontrager Jones XC tubeless ready tires (really good and light -- run them tubeless -- no flats in 2 years).
Bottom Line:
I have probably put 1,500 miles on this bike since I bought it new, and almost all those miles have been logged at Hall Ranch, which is a challenging environment for any bike (rocky, steep, etc.). My only complaint about this bike is the screws connecting the rear triangle and rear suspension rockers to the frame -- they come out even when Red Loctite has been used on the threads. Blue Loctite has to be used as a consequence, and so far I have had no problems over the past 4 months (keeping fingers crossed). At least one of the screws will interfere with the crank as it comes out and cannot be tightened or serviced in the field (unless you can pull your XTR crank in the field). Otherwise, this is a great bike that I unreservedly recommend.
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Submitted by
emessaro
a Cross Country Rider
from Kelly, Wyoming Date Reviewed: September 12, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Anything on Teton Pass/Snowking Mountain
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1050.00
Purchased At:
Ebay
Strengths:
Frame is amazing. The steering/geometry are perfect. The XCL climbs really well, but decends even better.
Weaknesses:
Nothing
Similar Products Used:
Nothing
Bike Setup:
2009 Chumba XCL size small frame, 2008 Fox Talas RLC front fork, 2009 RP23 rear shock, Chris King headset, Thomson stem and seatpost, 2008 Shimano XT crank, 2008 Shimano E type front derailleur, Selle Italia saddle, Salsa handlebars, Hayes brakes, and an XT rear derailleur.
Bottom Line:
This bike is awesome. The perfect geometry gives the rider endless confidence to hit jumps, ride fast, and bomb through technical sections without batting an eye. I had huge expectations for this bike, and my expectations were blown away. I couldn't be happier.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from Dalyellup Australia Date Reviewed: September 11, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Lenard trails Wellington Dam
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Frame only e bay
Strengths:
Great frame, solid and not a well known brand over here.
Weaknesses:
None ...Not being able to keep up with riding buddies on single track down hill. (this is more me than the product).
Similar Products Used:
Giant Trance 3, Giant XTC3 and in the beginings of MTB a Giant Sedona.
Bike Setup:
Sram X 9 and Avid 5 Shimaono XT crank set as they say a piece of everything makes it come together.
Bottom Line:
A great unknown bike here in the South West of OZ. Purchased on the comments from MTB mags with out test riding the product. I purchased a small frame (I am 172 cm) as I would ride a medium size bike in the other brands. Glad I did as it fits sweet. My riding skills need to improve to make the best of it. But very happy with the frame.
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Submitted by
jpdrums
a Weekend Warrior
from Tampa,FL,USA Date Reviewed: August 31, 2008
Med Black Ano Frame, RP23 Rear shock, Fox Vanilla 32 RLC, Custom Links Cycle Works wheels with Chris King Hubs, Chris King Headset, Thomson Seatpost blah blah blah...
Bottom Line:
Read the reviews... Basically a bike that can do it all whether it be climbing , descending , maneuvering. This bike is strong as hell! For a rider that is all about how you get there, this bike will keep you getting there. It has given me way more confidence doing things I might not have tried on other bikes. I was a little annoyed that my bike got to my house leaking oil thanks to a missing rear shock seal on the fox RP23 but hey things happen... This bike fits my personality and style to a T. Also, the guys at Chumba are the friendliest and most helpful people to talk to . They don't have that corporate giant feel to them and will answer any questions. If there is only enough money or room for one bike in your stable, then this one is it. Also, the brand new 08 frames have polished rear triangles instead of body colored which really set my Ano Black bike apart from others. Considering the performance of this bike , 1379 for the frame with the RP23(free Thomson seat post) is a steal compared to other boutique brands like Ellsworth and Ventana. Highly recommend to anyone not afraid to get dirty.
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Submitted by
chucko58
a Cross Country Rider
from Silicon Valley, CA, USA Date Reviewed: August 12, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Saratoga Gap
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
not supposed to tell
Strengths:
Laterally stiff. Reasonably light for a stout FS bike. Great traction when climbing. Inspires confidence in the gnarly bits. Beautiful "anodized" grey finish.
Weaknesses:
DHX Air shock is finicky, hard to set up for a FS novice. Occasional pedal strikes on rocky trails (may be due to shock setup). Some components in basic factory build kit not up to quality of the frame. "Anodized" finish isn't bulletproof. Derailleur hanger bends easily. Original Maxxis Minion tires were heavy and slow. Very minor front derailleur cable routing issues.
Similar Products Used:
None, this is my first FS bike.
Bike Setup:
Medium XCL frame, Chumba disc wheels, '08 Fox TALAS 32 RLC fork, '07 Fox DHX Air 5.0 shock, Shimano XT/SRAM X.9 drivetrain mix, FSA Afterburner MegaExo crankset, Avid Juicy 7 brakes. Upgrades include Kenda Cortez 2.4" tires, XT cassette, 203/185 mm rotors (stock was 185/160), Titec Pluto riser bar, Alpha Q stem, Ergon GP1 grips, Joplin seatpost, Specialized Avatar Gel saddle.
Bottom Line:
After riding a hardtail for the past decade, it was time to upgrade to a FS bike. The Titus MotoLite was on my list but it looked too light for my Clydesdale mass and ham-handed riding style. The XCL had a similar suspension design and lots more beef where it counted. I bought one without a test-ride, and I haven't been disappointed with my choice. The XCL will handle any trail I'm brave enough to ride. Upgrading to lighter tires made a huge difference - the bike rockets down hills and accelerates like a scalded cat. The recent addition of a Joplin seatpost put the finishing touch on the bike. Any complaints I have with the ride are due to my own lack of skill and/or the Fox shocks not being set up for a big guy. This bike has definitely made me a better and braver rider! If you only have room for one MTB in your garage, the XCL is a great choice. One chili off on the value scale because some of the build kit wasn't up to the quality you'd expect of a $2800 bike.
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Submitted by
slugster
a Weekend Warrior
from Mnt View, Ca Date Reviewed: July 27, 2008
Favorite Trail:
UCSC
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Frame construction, design, is top notch.
Weaknesses:
Paint chips.. no biggie though.
Bottom Line:
I have owned other so called high end bikes, and finally tried this one and blew them all away. This bike performed really well to xc to light downhill. Solid going up with minimal effort with DHX air, you can do anything. Have taken this bike to N*,Downieville, other Nor*Cal trails, and held up pretty good, of course no I dont do big jumps.. just set up your suspension right and it will do you justice.
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Submitted by
Paul
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary Date Reviewed: May 4, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
www.adrenalinebikes.com
Strengths:
Extremely plush, laterally stiff, and super stable ride. Amazing descender, fantastic single-tracker, and good climber. In a nutshell very fun. Perfect bike for the riding I do on weekends in Fernie BC which involve a lot of technical singletrack with long climbs and very fast downs. Good value too. Pretty unique in these parts too.
Weaknesses:
Some efficiency is probably given up to the plush suspension, but I'm OK with that, as it sticks like glue on climbs and runs very quickly everywhere else. Pro pedal is available on the RP23 , but I rarely use it. No lock out on the RP23, which would come in handy riding roads to get to the trails, particularly hammering on paved uphills, but that's getting picky. Also, no local dealers here in Calgary, so I took a chance on the bike. Unfortunately, the large frame was too big (I'm 6'0"), so I had swap it out for a medium (Adrenaline was very accommodating though). Also, more colour choices would be good, ideally metallic blue.
Similar Products Used:
2008 Stumpjumper (didnt like the brain or the price), Mojo / Blur (didnt seem plush enough), Heckler (too upright) Fuel EX 9 (didnt fit well). Never tried the Giant Trance X0 for some reason.
Bike Setup:
Medium XCL frame (grey), Fox 140 Talas RLC, full XT, Stans ZTR Olympic rims, Nevegal 2.35 tires, Thomson stem / seatpost, WTB Rocket V sadle. Weight ~ 27-28 lbs.
Bottom Line:
After 10 or so good rides, I love it. Had to endure some hassle to sort out the frame size, but Neil at Adrenaline Bikes was a stand-up guy and swapped it out no questions asked. In addition to numerous hardtails owned to date I've owned two full suspension bikes: a 2003 Rocky Mt Element and a 2005 Stumpjumer Expert. I couldn't stand the Element but loved the Stumpjumper. The XCL has set a new bar for me. I'll report in again later this summer with more miles under my belt.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Gatos, CA USA Date Reviewed: April 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Braille
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
direct from Chumba
Strengths:
I built it up and that's the last I have had to touch it. I really don't time to both ride and do maintenance - this bike let's me spend my time on the ride.
Weaknesses:
nothing of note
Similar Products Used:
Specialized Epic
Bike Setup:
box stock XCL
Bottom Line:
This machine does everything I ask of it and would do plenty more. If you can have, need to have, or only want to have one bike then get this bike.
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Submitted by
J
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin Texas Date Reviewed: April 6, 2008
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$2600.00
Purchased At:
Direct from Chumba
Strengths:
I like the grips, the Chris King headset, truvativ bars (but very high rise), juicy 7's
Stock Chumba XCL bike build for the most part with new Pike 454 Air U-turn
Bottom Line:
When I first ordered the bike they sent me the wrong size, large instead of small, the bike was packed well enough. I broke the seat stay in January and the new one they sent me yeaterday. So, I have cracked the seat stays twice now. I am a XC rider doing some light freeride here and there, thats well within the realm of riding they advertise and the bike magazines rave about. With that said I need to write into Mountain Bike Action and say "thanks for the bad advice".
I was very excited about this bike and when it was running well (not cracked) it is a very cool frame with great geometry. The Chumba branded part are ok but great, I kept spending money to replace parts (seat, seat post, seat collar, tires, fork, handle bars).
The customer service at Chumba is good. They always respond to me quickly and seem to want to help me. I am waiting to here how this new cracked frame will turn out. I have requested a refund since I don't feel confident that it wont happen again. I will update this when I get a resolution.
I would say buy something else. I wish I had. Not sure what I will buy next but it wont be a Chumba. I may go back to Santa Cruz or Titus.
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Submitted by
DonO
a Weekend Warrior
from Irwin, Pa. USA Date Reviewed: February 19, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Roaring Run or Laurel Mtn
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1399.00
Strengths:
4 Bar FSR style suspension (alwasy active) Stout construction. No flex or rear end wag. Ano finish, laser grpahics (very sublime) All bearings are the same, Linkage is stiff, great geometry and fit is spot on for me. Choice of DHX Air or RP23. Customer service is TOP NOTCH. These guys answered my questions for over a month before I pulled the trigger.
Weaknesses:
Can't think of one?
Similar Products Used:
Ventana El Chamuco (6" travel, 69 degree HA) Specialized Enduros (many different models over the years)
Bike Setup:
Large XCL w/RP23, RS Pike 454 Dual Air, FSA cranks/rings. Hope Pro II rear hub, Hope XC 20 MM TA front hub, Bombshell Fatboy rims (really opens up the width of the tire) 36-4X spoke pattern, Tompson Seatpost, Hayes Hydros, Time Z Pedals, misc other stuff.
Bottom Line:
I contacted Chumba after my Ventana El Chamuco developed a crack addiction. Ventana is another AWESOME company so far as customer service goes. I have broken 7 frames over the last 8 years, from stress cracks. I am 6'2" and 225 Lbs, do not do giant drops or jumps over 3 foot. When I contacted Chumba my e-mail was titled "I break frames" Alan called me w/in 20 minutes and said "We have never had an XCL returned for breakage" He told me the difference in how their bikes are made versus other companies and due to the type of riding I did, recommended the XCL over the Evo. I could not be happier w/my choice after almost 3 months of riding everything from rocky, nasty trails to smooth single track to Urban Assaults on Pittsburgh streets. I have also taken the bike to Rays indoor park and the bike has shined. It was easy to set up, the Pro-Pedal feature on the RP23 when used in conjunction w/the Pikes Flood Gate Control makes the bike a very nice climber compared to my older bike. The fairly slack 69 degree head angle makes going downhill very comfortable and stable. The bike is very easy to finesse through just about any situation I can throw at it. It responds very smoothly to rider input. It jumps and lands very smoothly and I do not miss the extra inch of travel my old frame had. This bike has inspired a lot of confidence in my riding and I am a very happy with the overall fit. I have my bike set up as a heavy duty bike and yet it only weighs about 32 Lbs. I hope to make it a tad lighter this summer by going tubeless....again and some lighter cockpit items. Chumba customer service sets it at the top of the boutique frame manufacturers and it's pricing is a phenom unto itself! Great job guys!!! I would recommend this bike to anybody who likes to ride aggressively and is looking for an all day trail bike that will take you in and back out again on any trail you throw at it. If you are a larger/taller person, who is tough on bikes, I would highly recommend this bike.
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Submitted by
Rick
a Weekend Warrior
from Mililani, HI Date Reviewed: January 27, 2008
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
Direct from Chumba
Strengths:
Solid construction. More nimble than some lighter bikes. Outstanding customer service. Great anodized finish. Excellent cable routing (I've seen some bad ones). Solid going up hills. Stable going back down.
Weaknesses:
Limited to an E-Type front mech but, to be honest, it turns out that was my hang up. The front D has been flawless since it was first set up. I would still feel better about having an option other than Shimano for the e-type (Hear that SRAM?!).
Similar Products Used:
Jamis Dakar XLT
Bike Setup:
Medium frame; Pike 454 coil; RF Atlas cranks w/ bash; X9 drivetrain w/ XT front mech; Hope Pro II hubs and Mavic 819 rims; Thomson X4 stem and seatpost; Juicy 7s;
Bottom Line:
This is the perfect bike for someone who wants one tough bike that can hold its own in almost any situation. I rode it almost fifty miles in the first day I had it and other than having to make a dérailleur adjustment, the bike performed flawlessly. I noticed the difference the bike made going up and down rocky singletrack immediately.
On hills that would have made my old bike spin out, the XCL stayed connected to the ground even when I was pounding out of the saddle. When I would go back down, I found myself going much faster than I previously went with much more confidence. There was no brake jack and the bike tracked exceptionally well through the corners. The frame is a bit heavier than other bikes in the same category but believe it when people say you can't notice it a bit while riding.
I can't say enough about the bike and the customer service that goes along with it. The XCL is not for the weight weenies but if you're looking for a trail bike that can do a little of everything from XC to FR, this is the one.
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Submitted by
Matt Bagalso
a Weekend Warrior
from Nor*Cal Date Reviewed: January 2, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Demo
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
Craigslist.
Strengths:
Frame, Looks, Solid pivots, Horst Link, Customer service
Weaknesses:
NOne...none... none.. hmmmm let me see.. none again
Similar Products Used:
Spec Enduro, Heckler, many other that I demoed
Bike Setup:
Chumba built kit
Bottom Line:
This bike ROOOKKKKKCS!!!!!!!!! I've never ridden a bike that can do it all... its not the lightest bike but sure pedals like it.. much more plush, pedal friendly, just point and gone. front wheel never lifts up when climbing a wall.. corners rails like a dream.. I am very happy with this bike. I had my shares with other so called high end bikes and never felt so belong to a bike.... get this bike or at least demo one, you will not regret!!
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Submitted by
Robert Alves
a Weekend Warrior
from Anaheim Hills Date Reviewed: December 17, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Hills for Everyone
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
Demo
Strengths:
Solid feel Quick handling Smooth shifting Great component specs
Weaknesses:
None found.
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Blur LT Yeti 575
Bike Setup:
Stock Chumba build
Bottom Line:
I gotta have one. I just need to sell a few of my old bikes. I just hope I get my Chumba before the Sea Otter Classic. This is my first experience with the Rockshox Pike, I love this fork. The Fox shock is just what you would expect, top notch. If you want an all mountain bike, you can not beat this value.
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Submitted by
Alan Kang
a Weekend Warrior
from Anaheim, CA Date Reviewed: December 4, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Del Cerro, Palos Verdes
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Bottom Line:
I am only writing this in response to MMatador. I just thought his review needed to be addressed as he made a lot of accusations against CHUMBA. I don't want to be petty, so I will just make my side of the story short. The bike that he says did not shift properly was sent back and was tested by our lead mechanic, by Ted Tanouye (who designed the bike and was the lead race mechanic for CHUMBA on the NORBA race circuit); and we found no shifting errors whatsoever. We put the frame on the jig and alignment was perfect, each shift was perfect after we built it up, and in fact, the frame was purchased by our sales manager's wife who is now going to race it in the Counting Coup and other endurance races.
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Submitted by
Evil Chocula
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, shortly relocating to Boston Date Reviewed: November 13, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Strengths:
-Very well built; the welds are beutiful, and the bike just looks like it's built to last. -Geometry is spot on for aggressive trail riding/xc. -Cockpit: I don't know how or why, but this bike just feels really centered, like your in sweet spot center of gravity. -Anodized paint job will-not-scratch!
Weaknesses:
-I've been catching my pedals slightly more than I did on my Reign, but my rear shcok might be soft.
Similar Products Used:
2005 Giant Reign.
Bike Setup:
Stock X9 kit w/Pike 454.
Bottom Line:
The first thing I noticed about this bike was the set up... you can tell whoever designed built this bad boy actually rides aggressive, all mountain stuff.
I had a number of handling problems with my Giant Reign (stolen, I hope you burn in hell bike thief), that I had mainly attributed to the slack headangle and suspension; floppy steering, extremely poor climbing, and the front tire had an uncanny desire to "walk" off the trail when on the flats.
To my amazement, despite similar geometry, the XCL handles like a champ. I don't have enough geometry/engineering skills to nail down how this is possible, but it just is. I my opinion, the XCL is a true "all mountain" rig, meaning its handles great in just about any situation. So far, I've had it out on pure XC trails, and the highly technical downhills of Bootleg Canyon. And, for $2800, it aint cheap, but compared to a similar build from other boutique frame makers (Turner, Ellsworth, etc) its a steal.
PS If your looking at an XCL, I highly recommend the anodized paint job. I went off a cliff at Bootleg, mangled my face and sent the bike tumbling for about 20 feet. Face: 10 stiches, Bike: not a scratch.
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Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Nor.Cal Date Reviewed: November 12, 2007
Favorite Trail:
any..
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
online..
Strengths:
solid frame, welds are incredible, well balanced bike. quality,quality.
This bike rocks!!! well balanced bike. I have been looking for that 5" bike for to do it all.. and it has delivered. I haven't felt so belong to a bike... man!!! nuff sed. buy this bike and you will know how I feel.
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Submitted by
lee kobilca
a Cross Country Rider
from palos park, il Date Reviewed: November 5, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1399.00
Purchased At:
Rbikes
Strengths:
Frame quality. Great welds, finish and graphics. Awesome handling and balance.
Weaknesses:
Coming off a hard tail I am a little disappointed in the acceleration. During second ride, I lost the bolt that holds the bearing near the rear hanger on the drive side.
Similar Products Used:
Demoed Titus Motolite and Guapo, Specialized Stump FSR and Yeti
Bike Setup:
King hubs with Mavic 719's, Maxxis high roller tubeless tires, King headset, XO shifters and rear derailer, XT front, Avid juicy 7's, Thomson stem and post, RocksShox PIKE 454 dual air U-turn.
Bottom Line:
Coming off a hard tail, I am just getting used to a full suspension bike. So far I am very happy. It is slower than my hard tail, but I can ride it so much faster in so many situations due to the great balance and suspension. I am still trying to find the bikes limits. I have had bike for less than a month so my opinion may evolve. I will keep you posted on updates.
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Submitted by
mmatador22
a
from Colorado Springs, CO Date Reviewed: October 15, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3300.00
Purchased At:
Pro Cycling
Strengths:
- Burly (ie heavy-duty) frame - 5+ inches of travel - Horst link / FSR style rear suspension - Uninterrupted seat post - Killer looks / designer touches - Small company with customer service reps that call / email you back promptly - Great value - IF you can get one that shifts reliably...
Weaknesses:
- Reliable down shifting up front - Lots of shuddering when braking during a power slide - Fix for drive side lower main pivot loosening issue is functional, but ruins the aesthetic qualities of the bike (ie longer bolt and steel / nylon lock nut inside pivot joint behind bottom bracket) - Customer service - lack of attention to detail wrt quality control issues (frame scratches, damaged wheel, resend of same damaged parts, not all correct parts sent for build-up with factory kit, sloppy packaging), trying to guilt me into keeping a defective product, inconsistent communication re: frame replacement - Made in Taiwan (if you care about that sort of thing - I don't)
Similar Products Used:
Ellsworth Moment
Bike Setup:
Stock Chumba build kit except for Chris King headset, Avid Juicy 7 185 mm disc brakes, 2008 Fox Float 32 RLC, Shimano XT cranks / BB
Bottom Line:
*** Details ***:
I waited for 2 months to write this review because I wanted to 1) be able to write with a level head to be as fair as possible and 2) compare the XCL to my new bike which replaced the XCL (also an FSR style rear suspension bike).
After doing months of research, I finally decided to take a chance on Chumba and get the XCL for the many strengths listed above. I ordered the XCL through a local shop who signed up to be a dealer so they could get the bike for me. Apparently, I got the last XCL in Chumba's warehouse before their next shipment from Taiwan came in. The frame and build kit arrived within a week of ordering it (yes!). Unfortunately, the frame arrived with some small scratches on top of the non-drive side chain stay (@#$%!!), a missing axle for the front wheel, and damaged front wheel bearing hub caps (@#$@#%!!). I decided I could live with the frame scratches if everything else went smoothly (it didn't btw). So, the shop called Chumba, got an RA # to send back the damaged wheel and made a request for Chumba send out the correct wheel axle this time.
The shop hooked me up with a loaner front wheel in the mean time so I could ride the bike and test it out. The XCL met almost all of my expectations save one - it did not down-shift reliably up front. The XCL looked great with solid tubing and even welds, the suspension was very plush - handling nicely in the corners and downhills, and in general soaking up the bumps and jumps. However, the achilles heel of the bike I received was the inability to downshift up front from the large outer cog to the middle cog in a reliable fashion. This was a MAJOR annoyance! (We're talking any kind of down-shifting, whether under load or not).
Being an all-mountain rider hailing from Colorado Springs, I wanted the ability to rip up the fire roads in 3-1 / 3-2 for a good work-out and then switch to 2-x to bomb down any techy hill sections. Having wacky shifting up front was unacceptable. The local shop tried every trick in the book they knew over a period of 3-5 days and couldn't fix the issue; they said every time they've seen this it was a frame issue. So... the shop called Chumba and told them what was going on; and I was told by the shop I would be getting a new frame from Chumba once the next batch of frames came in. In the mean time, Chumba would send out a loaner frame which I could use until the new frame showed up. Wow - I was impressed...
And then it all went to pieces...
That very same day, Chumba called back and backtracked on their offer to send out a new frame; they had some other things they wanted us to try. The local shop was reluctant at first since the stuff Chumba was suggesting wouldn't make any difference in their opinion, but they tried it anyway. After 7 more days of trying out Chumba's suggestions (which included the local shop eating the cost of a new XT e-type derailleur and mid-grade Shimano MTB chain), and even me driving up to a Chumba dealer in Denver to have them look at the issue on my dime & time, we were right back where we started - a good bike that didn't shift well up front, only now, I was very annoyed. (On an interesting side note, I took another medium XCL out for a test ride in Denver while the dealer worked on my bike. I was able to demonstrate the exact same unreliable shifting behavior on that dealer's brand new bike, so I know mine wasn't the only runt in the litter and it demonstrated that it WASN'T a shop mechanic competence issue...)
During this time of testing and tribulation, the damaged front wheel was shipped back to Chumba. I expected a quick turn-around on the wheel as Chumba messed up my initial order and sent me damaged parts to begin with. Nope; the wheel arrived at Chumba where it promptly sat in their warehouse for over a week. Only after repeated calls to Chumba by the local shop, did they get around to sending a "replacement" back out to us. I say "replacement" because, as far as we could tell, Chumba returned the exact same wheel to us - damage and all. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. And Chumba had still neglected to send an axle for the front wheel during all this time!
Ultimately, I paid a small re-stocking fee and returned the frame, seat post, and wheel. I didn't want to have to drive to Denver every time I had an issue with the bike and I didn't want to have to deal with a company that was going to give me this much grief for dealing with one of their defective products. Chumba took their sweet time again in issuing a refund (IMO), but they eventually did make good.
*** Summary ***:
The XCL is a good bike for the money *** IF *** you can get one that shifts reliably or you want to run a dual ring configuration up front to deal with the shifting issue. I would strongly recommend buying one from a local dealer that is close to where you live and test riding it thoroughly in case you have issues as I did. I would also strongly recommend getting a front fork with adjustable travel; I found that my lower back got really sore on rides longer than 1.5 hours since I couldn't alter the head angle with the Fox Float 32 RLC. The stock Chumba build kit specs a Rock Shox Pike 454 U-turn which would fit the bill; I personally didn't like the idea of the U-turn system as I think it would take too long to stop and dial in what you want for each next section of the trail.
Would I buy from Chumba again? Probably not; too many headaches with this experience. I hope Chumba takes what they learned from this experience and make themselves a better company and they continue to improve the XCL because, despite all the crap I dealt with, I still think it's a cool bike. I know there are other satisfied Chumba XCL owners out there, sadly, I'm not one of them.
I would have given the bike and company 2.5 chilis, but since a half chili is not available, a "2" will have to do, because this experience certainly does not rate a "3".
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Submitted by
Mark
a
from Chandler, AZ Date Reviewed: September 4, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Bottom Line:
Please disregard my review below, as it makes no sense, since the reviewer who used to be below that review apparently had his removed. Anyway, awesome bike at a great price, and it comes in some great new colors for '07
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Submitted by
John
a
from Sta. Rosa Philippines Date Reviewed: August 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
build Quality, No Nonsense design, Price : Performance Ratio
Weaknesses:
Rear Derailer Hanger seems a bit soft. Had to get it aligned twice.
Solid! Spot on tracking, Tight handling, A confident descender! Rode this during the last 24 hour race. Weight was never an issue! Climbs and sticks better than anything I've tried before. A bike that gets you totally honed in. Keeps you from thinking about the gear and keeps you fixed on the trail. You think the line the bike follows!
There is a tendency to rub against the seat stays but not a real issue.
If I were to have just one bike this would be it!
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Submitted by
MJM
a Cross Country Rider
from Castle Rock, CO USA Date Reviewed: August 15, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Anything on the front range. We have it all!
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2200.00
Strengths:
Frame, tracking, fork, and workmanship.
Weaknesses:
Calf rub on the stiffening support for the Fox DHX. See below.
Similar Products Used:
Turner Flux, Ventana X5, Ellsworth Epiphany, GT I drive.
Bike Setup:
The standard XCL build kit from Chumba. See their web site: http://www.chumbaracing.com/xcl.shtml.
Bottom Line:
I bought the bike yesterday and rode it for the first time today. I decided to ride Buffalo Creek in the Pike NF because I wanted to contrast / compare this bike with my old bike (GT I drive) on a familiar trail. This trail has a bit of everything: good climbs, lose sandy soil, rocks and quick, back and forth, single track downhill. The first thing I noticed was this bikes ability to effectively climb. Nothing goes to waste on the pedal stroke--very little “bob” and great lateral stiffness. The Fox Talus controls were easy to get to and adjust. On smoother, uphill terrain, I simply locked out the fork and was first to the top of the hill. On mild downhill terrain I choose the middle adjustment and it was sufficient. When I entered a boulder field I switched to full suspension and this bike took everything I threw at it and begged for more. I was looking for big rocks and drops to push this bike and I never found its limit. The XCL tracks skillfully. On tight, quick, single tracks the XCL follows the line magnificently and if it wanders its operator error. The rear wheel follows you into each corner and is with you on the exit too giving the rider complete confidence.
The only complaint so far is my right calf rubbed now and again on the stiffening rib that holds the Fox DHX 5.
Before purchasing The XCL I tried most of the well know boutique brands: Ventana, Turner, Ellsworth, Etc... This bike, hands down, is the better XC bike. The Chumba offers a great frame, good components, pretty good customer service and VALUE. I stress value because for what you get there isn’t another bike company out there that can match the Chumba XCL. Chumba, keep up the good work!
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Submitted by
Mark
a
from Chandler, AZ Date Reviewed: July 30, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Bottom Line:
I think it's sad when people tarnish a great bike because they didn't do their research before buying. No where on the website is the XCL listed as a cross country bike! When has an XC bike ever had 5" of travel? All the reviewer below had to do was look at the geo numbers and listed weight of the frame, to realize it is an all mountain bike. The geo numbers were measured with a 140mm travel fork, again when does an XC bike have travel like that? Look at the beefy tubes, linkages, and huge gussets! This bike is meant to take punishment! I also believe the rear suspension problems were probably the DHX notoriously blowing through its mid stroke. The ride probably would have improved greatly with the RP23. People, please do your research, and know what kind of bike you want before dumping a load of cash.
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Submitted by
happy_ending
a
from flagstaff, az Date Reviewed: July 23, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
straight from chumba
Strengths:
beefy, super-stiff, climbs well, absolutely bombs the downhills with the only limitation being the pilots sense of self-preservation.
large us built frame, fox talas 32 rlc, dhx 5 air, dt wheels, sram drivetrain (other than e-type xtr fd)
Bottom Line:
this bike is the heat! while shopping for the new bike i was having a hard time deciding b/t a 5"-ish or 6"-ish bike. seems like most companies have a 5" bike that is obviously geared more towards xc and a much beefier 6" bike that is obviously geared more towards all mountain (whatever that really means!?!?). distinction mainly being how well "built-up" the frame is + the geometry and the specs they choose to put it together with... examples being titus guero vs the moto-lite, turner 5spot vs rfx, sc blur lt vs nomad... etc.
the chumba xcl really blurs that distinction b/t those two bike genres and that is what really sold me... on paper anyway. this was the only bike i didnt get to demo b/c there are no az dealers yet. so, the chumba guys were cool enough to sell one to me with the pretense that if i hated it or the frame didnt fit quite right that they would replace/return.
that kind of customer service sold me as well.
so about the bike... this bike really climbs well. in fact, not a whole hell of a lot worse than my old steel hardtail. it just took a bit to get used to the heavier front end and the slacker angles... but now after 10 or so rides i dont even think about it. especially coupled with the talas rlc so i can lock it out on long fire road climbs or set it down to 100mm for tech climbs. love it!
i love the horst as well. i dont even use the propedal on the dhx while climbing... this frame/linkage simply doesnt need it... i leave it fully open all the time... and im 210 w/o gear and notice very little to no bobbing... i like to stand-up and get it over with as well! the majority of trails here in flagstaff start with solid 1-2hr (or more) climbs... hence my reluctance to go with a 6" bike that is tough to climb.
going downhill is a dream. not much to it, holds a line very well , can rail corners like a mutha and takes a beating. i havent noticed any brake jack at all.
the frame is built beefier than the other bikes i demo'ed (listed above) which results in a slightly heavier frame. doesnt affect me on the climbs so i will take the stronger frame every time (31.8mm seat tube if that gives you any idea of how its built).
oh... and its about a grand cheaper than all the other boutique guys WITH the talas rlc. turner, ventana, intense, ellsworth , etc are all 4k+ with that forkshock combo.
cant beat it!
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Submitted by
Jonathan
a Downhiller
from Grafton, OH, USA Date Reviewed: July 18, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3300.00
Purchased At:
http://www.rbikes.com
Strengths:
Beautifuly built frame, super stiff, and the anno black finish rocks. DHX 5.0 air keeps the weight down and I have the Rock Shox Pike 454 U-turn up front to balance things out. Bike hides its weight well and would be good for anyone who rides hard or larger riders like myself.
Weaknesses:
Requires an e-type front deraileur. Shimano is the only option, wish SRAM made one.
Bike Setup:
Chumba XCL large frame,anno black finish, Fox DHX 5.0 Air Rock Shox Pike 454 U-turn, 20mm maxle; Hayes El Camino disc brakes, 7" front, 6" rear; SRAM drivetrain all X-9, except required e-type front deraileur is Shimano XT; Hadley hubs, ti bolt on rear; Sun S-type rims 32 hole; Truvativ bars, stem, seatpost; ODI Rogue Lock-on grips; WTB saddle, Cane Creek S3 headset
Bottom Line:
Great bike, super stiff frame worth every penny. Work with rbikes and come up with a custom build kit that fits your riding style and budget, they're super friendly and customer service is excellent. You can't go wrong with the Chumba XCL for an all round bike. If I had to pick one bike to do it all this would be the one.
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Submitted by
Moi
a Weekend Warrior
from Philippines Date Reviewed: July 12, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Sta. Rosa
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Wow, this bike is solid and fast. It weighs 1 pound heavier than my Yeti but it climbs better and goind downhill is a similar experience. Ruts, roots, mud, rocks, it just goes through them all. This is a bike that forces you to become a better rider. The better and stronger you get, the more fun you are going to have.
Weaknesses:
Have not been able to find any.
Similar Products Used:
Yeti 575 (loved it and used it for a whole year)
Bike Setup:
Fox 32 Talas R fork, Fow RP23 shock, XTR Drivetrain, Avid Juicy Carbon breaks, Chris King hubs DT spokes and rims, Nevegal tyres, Thompson seatpost, ODI grips, FSA bar and stem.
Bottom Line:
This is a bike the average trailrider will use and abuse for years. I have so far gotten 160 kms or around 100 miles on it in a span of 3 weeks through monsoon rains and mud. This bike is solid. Efficient when you point it uphill and smooth when the trails point down. The only thing holding this bike back and slowing it down are my legs and lungs. You really have to push yourself to reach the limits of this bike.
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Submitted by
Joshua
a Cross Country Rider
from colorado springs,co,usa Date Reviewed: May 21, 2007
Favorite Trail:
palmer park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
chumba
Strengths:
Very solid. The bike hides its weight well, feels a couple pounds lighter. Beatifull welds and machining.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
vpp,maverick,scott
Bike Setup:
Pike,mavic 819/chris king,speedball r,thomson,XO
Bottom Line:
I did my homework and this bike delivered. Climbs like it has extra bite. So so solid. Love the ano grey. The handeling and performance of the mac horst is perfect. Wouldn't change a thing.
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Submitted by
Tony
a Weekend Warrior
from Philippines Date Reviewed: May 19, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Santa Rosa Circuit
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Solid construction, great finish (anno black), stiff frame with good terrain feedback, superb climber, excellent descending capabilities.
Weaknesses:
Lack of extra small size for smaler riders.
Similar Products Used:
Ellsworth Epiphany
Bike Setup:
Fox fork, avid hydraulic brakes, rockshox shock
Bottom Line:
The XCL is a BIG WINNER! I visited Orange County from the Philippines and got the chance to ride with Ted and Alan of Chumba around 2 trails. After not being on a bike for 3 weeks I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to keep up but the XCL proved me wrong. This bike just climbs so well its amazing!
I felt like a rider reborn after feeling the XCL's snappy responsiveness and quick acceleration. It hopped, curved, switched effortlessly up and down the trails and when pointed down it just absorbed ruts, rocks and all.
True to Chumba's reputation of building tough bikes the XCL is one cross country / hard core trail bike that is light and built like a rock.
Nothing sells a bike more than an actual demo and after 2 rides, I'M SOLD!
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Submitted by
Craig Behnke
a Weekend Warrior
from Golden, CO. USA Date Reviewed: May 17, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Golden Gate Canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Bitterbrush Cycles (Lyons, CO)
Strengths:
Excellent fit and finish of materials. Excellent welds. Oversize frame tubing. Top notch customer service.
Weaknesses:
Nitpicks, but here goes. had to get a larger seatpost and clamp...minor issue. No others so far.
Similar Products Used:
Turner 6 pack, Ventana X-5, Ventana El Saltamontes, Ellsworth Id (years ago...get off me!)
Bike Setup:
Maverick DUC 32 fork, stem and front hub, Hope M4 brakes, Monkeylite bars, Race Face Atlas cranks, Thomson post, King rear hub on Mavic rim, various other bits and pieces
Bottom Line:
This is a review after 2 pretty good, thorough rides. It's only 2 rides and I'm still dialing in the ride but I'll update the post after I get more saddle time.
When I first built it up and mounted my coil DHX 5.0, i thought i might have to go with lower spring weight because the rear felt so firm. I measured sag and it was about 30%. Perfect for the riding I do. I got to the trail and began to climb about 500 vertical feet of rocky, bumpy, technical terrain. While the suspension felt almost too firm in the driveway it absolutely came to life on the trial. The suspension felt and worked excellent in so many aspects. Minimal bob, filled in thru the ruts, absorbed bumps smoothly, kept rear wheel stiction on super technical uphill sections, and was very smooth on the square-edge obstacles. No noticeable pedal kickback going over square edge rocks and tall waterbars.
Pedaling uphill through 20 yards of baby-head rock fields the rear was very active and smooth. Exactly what I wanted. IMHO the horst link rear is just smoother on those types of obstacles than other types of suspension I have ridden. Just mu humble opinion.
The head tube angle was good...slack enough to feel great downhill, not twitchy at all and just fine uphill. Front end did not drift or rise in steep climbs. Seat tube angle good, my weight was right where I like it when climbing; over the pedals and not hanging too far back over the rear wheel. Rider cockpit felt great, not too stretched out. Bottom bracket height was great, enough to get me over obstacles but not so high that it felt unstable. Feels like a pretty good center of gravity and balance of the frame. It was very easy to balance, hop, and flick trials-like moves in technical sections.
Downhill. Excellent frame. Rear was plush through the full range of travel, never felt sloppy. Frame is pretty beefy and I didn't feel any flex anywhere. I'm used to riding super-stiff frames like Ventana and Turner and I would have noticed flex. I didn't.
Machining, Materials. Excellent, very high quality product. The gusseting, the chainstay yokes, the mac-strut rockers....all were very high quality of finish. Looks like a ton of CNC machined parts on it. No burrs or facing needed on the BB or HT.
Cable routing works very well. Keeps cables out of the way and there are just the right amount of cable bosses to zip-tie your hydro lines.
Finish. I got the black annodized. Very nice finish.
I like to experiment with a lot of frames. i just sold a Ventana El saltamontes because it was more of a XC bike and I wanted more of an AM ride. I loved my '05 Turner 6 pack that i rode 2 yrs ago...I wanted that quality of a ride but Turner no longer uses the horst rear. I saw Chumba has a horst rear 5 inch AM frame called the XCL. I did some research and I liked a lot of what I discovered about the company, the people, and their frames. I gave them a shot and I really like my choice. This frame has the overall high quality of materials, fit & finish and ride feel of the $1,900 frames but you can get an XCL for $1,300. I'm poor, that makes a big difference to me.
5 chili's on quality and 5 chili's on value. If you're looking for a super high quality AM frame w/ 5 inch travel....YOU MUST LOOK AT THE CHUMBA XCL. It's that good.
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