Instant Center Tracking is internationally patented and quantifiably the most energy-efficient suspension design in the world, period. Internationally acclaimed, ICT four-bar linkage technology provides up to 100% pedal power efficiency by aligning the instant center of the linkage on the chain torque line and continually tracking it throughout the range of travel. What does that mean in layman’s terms? It means ICT allows pedal power to propel the rider forward without power loss, effectively avoiding the common suspension design flaw that divides pedal inputs into a wasteful combination of forward and vertical motions.
Strengths: Update from previous review: I have now set the rear travel to 7.1" using 8.5" eye-to-eye DHX5 shock. This has slackened the head angle (running Boxxer R2C2s). Have also put a Works Components headset -1 degree in it, so the headangle is a much more modern 64.5-65 degrees. This bike is amazing. Full stop. The changes have made me want to keep it (this is the second one I've had: Been riding Rogues since the were released). The C.O.G is lower, the front slacker and it really rides the steep stuff beautifully.
Now I have found a 27.2mm dropper post (X-fusion Hilo), it's even better.
Weaknesses: Ellsworth should've made these changes themselves!
A tapered or 1.5" headtube, a Reverb compatible seattube, drop the rear end/ bottom bracket with the shorter shock and slacken the front.
No need to have released the "Method" which looks like a dog's dinner.
These frames are still on sale - I suggest you get one while they're available!
Favorite Trail: Samoens Black, Monkey's Arse and Run of the Mill
Duration Product Used: 5yrs+
Bike Setup: Boxxer R2C2, direct stem/ bars (Loaded), Hope V2 Evos, Works Components Headset (-1 degree), DHX5 (Pushed), X-Fusion Hilo Dropper post, Hope hubs with Sun rims (EQ-31s), Raceface Atlas AM, Blackspire Dewlie, Saint/ XTR mechs and shifters.
Date Reviewed: June 22, 2011
Strengths: ICT ! Believe the hype, this bike pedals like a dream !!!
Killer black/ white smoke frame
Weighs comparably less for it's intended use
Weaknesses: Feels a little flex on the rear if you're really nit picking.
OK so I built this bike up for mostly shuttle duties where it really kicks butt. Stable like a guided missile and smooth in the air and on landings. Take the time to really dial the suspension in and you will be greatly rewarded. This is one of those frames that I really felt the differences between clicks on the compression and rebound. Once you're dialed in, it's rock solid all the way. But I find myself picking this bike up on 2 hour rides up the mountain with my trail buddies. It needs more grunt to gas it up the trail than my AM bike just by the added weight and slack, but it pedals so well that it will get you there. No bob, no squat, no wasted energy. No wonder they call it "ROGUE". It truly does step out of bounds.
Bike Setup: Marzocchi 66 ATA ( would rather have a Fox 180 Van or TALAS)
Fox 5.0 DHX shocks
Shimano Saint cranks ( bomb proof 4 sure ! )
Shimano XT drivetrain
Hadley DH on Mavic 823s ( solid setup )
Thomsons w/ Monkeylites (CF)
Maxxis High Rollers 2.5/2.35 w/ Stans
KS seatpost dropper
Weighs around 36.5 lbs
My TLD full face always within reach
a Weekend Warrior
from Bay Area, California
Date Reviewed: October 18, 2010
Strengths: Quality construction with striking form. Bike looks the business from a long way off.
Weaknesses: Lacks the unique Ellsworth Goth-plaque that my 2006 Truth has on the down tube. The Ellsworth WTB saddle is VERY (VVEERRYY) HARD.
Never look back - the money (lots of it) is worth it. This bike is awesome.
Comfortable and capable, this rig erases trail doubts and makes me grin every single ride. This bike equipped with a good set of lungs, ventricles, and quads will climb everything around here (slowly). The Saint brakes pull this bike to a stop on a dime, the Nevegals will not slip at all, and the Fox 40s smooth steep, jutted, craggy trails into a swooping coaster ride. I've hardly touched my other bikes since buying this one.
a Weekend Warrior
from Las Vegas, NV, USA
Date Reviewed: November 15, 2009
Strengths: ICT tracking, this is no hype, it really works amazingly.
Strength,smoothness, reliable,no hassle trail ninja sword bike
Weaknesses: nothin,zip, nada
If You can afford it, this will be the best bike you will ever ride PEROID! I now know why Ellsworth riders say "Those who know ride". That is so true.
The KONA's felt like i was riding an old beat up chevy with 10 kids in the back. The Rouge would be like what it is probably like to drive a Lamborgini. (sp)
is you can get one. You can always use the "life is too short to not to" reason.
Similar Products Used: Never ridden nothin like this.
Bike Setup: the most expensive components you can buy went on this bike. Nothing was sparred
a Weekend Warrior
from Williamsburg, VA
Date Reviewed: September 15, 2009
Strengths: I love the versatility of this bike. I just switch out springs and change from Freeride/All Mountain to Downhill in a few minutes. Just put the 2010 Boxxer on last weekend before the downhill race and this bike loves the tall front end. I had to increase the rear spring to take the extra air it was giving me.
Weaknesses: Rear end is a little flexy. I notice it when I'm in the real rocky sections on the downhill runs. Sometimes feels like the rear tire is flat.
The bottom line is that this bike does everything well, but is not an expert anything. It will climb with most, and you can ride it all day with some pro-pedal turned on. The next day you can soften things up jump on the shuttle. If you decide to lower the travel with a shorter shock, just be prepared to hit the pedals some. You will take an inch of the bottom bracket hieght in the process. Keep the 180mm minimum on this bike up front, the head tube angle doesn't work well with 165 or less. This is the only bike I own and I ride All-mountain and raced downhill last weekend!! Best all around machine made!
Similar Products Used: Ellsworth Moment, Santa Cruz Nomad
Bike Setup: Pink Rogue, Boxxer Race/Marzocchi 66, Answer pro taper bars/ high rise, Azonic Stem, Cane creek S-3 +5mm, SLX 22/36 crank, 991 chain, 990 rear cassette, 4 inch gravity dropper/azonic 300mm, THE saddle, Hope Pro 2's with Mavic 721s. Prowler MX rear 2.35, Wierwolf 2.5 front/ 2.7 Blue grove on gravity days.
a Weekend Warrior
from Baltimore, MD
Date Reviewed: September 11, 2009
Strengths: Quality construction and super plush. Has survived some spectacular crashes with no issues. Made in the USA.
Weaknesses: None so far. Took a little getting used to the large rockers (leg interference), but no longer an issue.
Used and abused at Snowshoe WV and Seven Springs PA. Not a lot of experience riding real downhill, but the Rogue has handled everything I put it through. 7" of travel up front and 8" in back are seemingly endless. I'm amazed at how well it eats up the rough stuff. Makes me want to try stuff beyond my abilities just to let the bike do what it was designed for. The bike has suffered some pretty awesome crashes and came through with only a few scratches. Also survived some pretty terrible weather conditions with no effects on pivots/bearings. Value is highest because I got a newly replaced front triangle with original rockers/stays for $1300. Overall is highest because I've beaten the crap out of this bike in a short period of time and it is still riding great.
Bike Setup: Rock Shox Totem coil, Fox DHX 5.0 coil shock, TBC Revolution 32 wheels, Avid Juicy brakes, Race Face Evolve cranks/handlebar, eThirteen chainguide, SRAM X.7 rear derailleur/shifter, Chris King headset, Maxxis Minion DH front tire, Kenda Nevegal DH rear tire
from Gilbert, AZ
Date Reviewed: June 4, 2009
Strengths: Lightweight, beautiful welds and color(pink), pedals very well, climbs up everything(even with it being a 9 speed with a 34T), strong and plush.
Weaknesses: At first my calves bumped into the large rear rockers but after riding it for a few weeks is not an issue.
A sick bike that I ride everywhere from a cross country 20 milers to the top of my favorite downhill trail. Pedals great, is plush and fast as hell. This is a great all around bike that i like better than my other bikes for all types of terrain.
Similar Products Used: Kona Coilair, Foes, Titus, Kona Stinky
Bike Setup: Marzocchi 66 RC3, XT, Industry Nine, Stans Flow, Gravity Dropper
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: December 18, 2008
Strengths: - Excellent angles for all kinds of riding styles. Has a 67° head tube that lets u do the downhill trails with no problems and freeride like a psycho.
- High BB for the technical trails lets u keep going without smashing your bash ring on rock all the way. (Though this is a weakness for DH).
- Long wheel base makes the bike feel really stable all the time, a bit worring on the tight corners but with a single crown fork u'll have no problems.
- Fully active suspention under braking and pedaling, works great! the suspention soaks up the big and the small with no problems.
- ICT... what can u say, many sat on my bike, and all said the same thing, that the suspention is amazingly active and the pedaling efficent is superb!
- Full length seat tube, soooo important for those who like even a bit of climbing.
- Pretty light frame considering its 8" of travel
Weaknesses: Still no problems after 2 years. never had to close any screws. All the parts around the frame are collapsing Though :)
This is an update on my review from almost a year and a half ago
A few notes, don't do my mistake, put atleast 180mm on the front. switching from the Talas to the Totem was unbelivble, its like a whole new bike.
Similar Products Used: Kone Coiler (owned), Jamis Parker (own). Did a ride on: Mongoose EC-D, Mongoose Black Diamond, I-Drive 7 and more
Bike Setup: Rock Shox Totem Solo Air 2008, Fox DHX-5 Coil, Magura Louise FR 2008, Mavic 729 on Ringle Lawhill hubs, Maxxis minion 2 Ply 2.5 rear, Kenda Nevegal 2.5 Sticky-E front, Race Face Evlove stem, Truvativ Husfeller Handle Bar, Race Face Diablous Headset, Shimano Hone crank set with E-13 double ring chain guide...
Date Reviewed: September 27, 2007
Strengths: this bike has sick angles, gives u massive clearance from the top tube. i'm 1.80m and i got the S size, its excellent for me cause this bike is long as hell. very stable, has great cornering, the ICT is a very active suspension, just like the specilzied FSR but still have a great pedaling abilities. I can do climbs that i could never do with my 6"er. its way lighter then anything else with a 8" travel.
Weaknesses: when u get used to those inactive suspensions other bikes have, when u try to pull on the bars on this 1 it is so plush it just soaks what u do, so it takes time to get used to it.
this bike is excellent for so many riding styles, all depends on how u set it up. i got it with light yet strong components so i can climb and decend without worring. its good from agressive AM to massive hard DH.
Similar Products Used: Coiler, Eric Carter DH, Black Diamond, iDrive 7.
Bike Setup: Fox 36 Talas, DHX-5 Coil, Magura Luise FR 2007, Mavic 729, Hutchinson octopus 2.5, Race Face Evlove stem and handle bar, Race Face diablous Headset, sun ringle hubs.
a Weekend Warrior
from Bristol, UK
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2007
Strengths: Light, different but fast geometry, 4-bar suspension, DHX5, cool anodizing.
Weaknesses: Crap rear axle, got an alloy 150mm Orange axle machined down to replace the hardware store bolt.
As I pile down the trails I keep considering building a full downhill spec Rogue but can't make my mind up as the head angle is a little steep and the frame very very light. Fast, techncial trails, Cwmcarn DH, Mountain Ash, normal XC type type trails like Afan etc are perfect for this bike. Mine is 38Ib and riders superbly in most situations, including the slog back up. Well balanced geometry, stiff despite the light weight, wicked fast on the tight technical stuff. The bike only really struggles on rock gardens and really harsh roots. For the price, the brand, the warranty and the function the Rogue is offers best value to the hard XC/Freeride/Light DH market in 2007.
Bike Setup: Manitou travis, Fox DHX, Race Face Evolve, Avid Code, Mavic wheelset, Syncros stem/bars...
from Auckland, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2007
Strengths: Light, fast and stable in the air. Really stiff and pedals well. Very tidy anodised smoke finish. Did I mention the plushness?
Weaknesses: Doesn't affect me at 5'11" but the small should be labled Medium as it has a 23" top tube. If the blue bottom out adjuster on the fox DHX is fully out, it very very slightly touches the frame on full bottom out. I've just taken the blue adjuster off.
This thing loves to fly. It took me a few rides to learn 4bar after so long on a single pivot, but now you can't keep it on the floor. Stable at speed and good on the turns, this bike is real fast. Mine only weighs 38lbs so pedals the flat bits easily. Good balanced bike but get the longest fork you can to slacken the angles.
from Seattle, Wa
Date Reviewed: April 9, 2007
Strengths: Light and efficient, climbs and decends incredibly well. Great craftmanship. Geometry is spot on. The "smoke" frame is beautiful.
Weaknesses: It seems too light to be used as a "big hit" bike. I probably won't take it off anything bigger than 4 or 5 feet.
I ride up as well as down and at 57, climbing was getting too slow with the Norco A-line I was riding. At 37#, the Rogue weighs about 1/3 less than the Norco but that is only half the equation. There is also with a big increase in efficiency. (Correspondingly, a big jump in the price, of course) This bike is light and fast. Pedals like my wifes 6" bike. Rode Fromme last weekend without dropping into the lowest gear ON THE BIG CHAINRING. Ok, ok, I'm an old man....don't want to hear from all you guys that pedal your downhill bikes to the top with a 40 tooth chainring.
If your family is willing to eat mac and cheese for a year, its a great way to go. Lightweight, quality, efficiency, beauty and the geometry is spot on.
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