Strengths: build quality, geometry, stiffness, progressiveness, non interrupted seat tube
Weaknesses: stock shock is lousy (Marzocchi Rocco WC and the bike comes allive!), bottom bracket could be 0.5 inch lower, rear stays very long compared to the wheelbase
Bottom Line:
very flickable freeride bike (even at 40 lbs). resistant to bottoming because of the linkage progression. very good ballance in the air with 2007 66RC2X. the frame seems to be build to last. the old gemini looks like its all mountain brother. frame without shock is a little on the heavy side (8.8 lbs) but this makes it handle the big stuff and crashes save. very short wheelbase (44,9) and very long rear stays (17,9) deliver a lot of front traction and steering response but manualing is a tough job! this bike is my favorite freeride bike but for high speed downhilling I would prefer a slacker longer bike. i would recomend a fork with a progressive spring rate (Marzocchi) as the totem for example (solo air and coil) are blowing through their travel to much at higher compressions (for further explanations see my 2007 RC2X and 2007 36RC2 review (Walter)). I had very good results with 2006 66SL and 2007 RC2X. rating is just for the frame!
Submitted by
Jazzy
a Downhiller
from Mammoth, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 10, 2007
Strengths: Solid Bike. Frame is sick, the shock linkage is just as plush as virtual pivot as much as I can tell. Comes with good components. Totem fork is awesome, lots of adjustments, high/low compression, dampening. Rear shock is ok and does its job. X.9 is wonderful! Hayes Mags are nice and stop you when you need to do that type of thing..
Weaknesses: It is heavy, but you can pedal it up hills, just have to work for it. Pedals suck. Front tire washes out as soon as its no longer new. Mine is weighing just under 41 pounds, its a medium.
Bottom Line:
Sweet bike, Kills it once you get suspension and fork all worked in and tuned for your riding style. Takes drops, jumps, rock gardens, berms, turns... Fun bike! I'm in love with it. Other then lame pedals and front tire wearing out quickly, it is perfect for the type of riding that I do, which is freeride/downhill stuff down trails and single track, but not too much racing, only local stuff.
Similar Products Used: My old A-Line, friends V10.. other random bikes.
Bike Setup: Stock except got rid of crappy cannondale pedals, put on azonic a-frame's with magniesium spindal. And have new front tire one the way, its a Maxxis Holy Roller 2.7.
Strengths: Takes hits like a champ, and has good small bump compliance. The perp frame is strong to say the least, the 1.5 headtube is the right way to go. cranks and bb are heavy but solid. Rear triangle is very true and tracks well. 200mm travel setting is the way to go for trail, 180mm is sweet for urban.
Weaknesses: lock-tight all the bolts in the rear, hinge bolts vibrate out.
Bottom Line:
The perp is an all around big mountain bike that will just as soon tear up some harsh single track as it will ride over your neighbores kids. the perp makes up for its weight with its plush suspension and bombproof frame.
Bike Setup: stock, you dont really need to upgrade unless you're a weight pu$$y
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Submitted by
Scott House
a Cross Country Rider
from Park City
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2007
Strengths: An 8 inch bike you climb 2000' no problem.
Weaknesses: A little heavy out of the box. 36 hole wheels are not needed.
Bottom Line:
This is my first "big bike" and I love it. I have a Profit 1 as well and it barely leaves the garage. I ride my perp all over the mountain. I have never rode a bike that can handle everything you throw at it like this bike can. Bottom line.... If you dont have one you should!! This is a perfect bike for the strong all-mountain rider/freerider out there. Make no mistake it is work to pedal up hill, but if you pay your dues you are rewarded 10 fold.
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