This is the real thing, designed specifically for downhill racing. Turner pioneered the production DH frame with the Afterburner that grabbed a Silver Medal in the 1995 World Championship. Since then we have been watching and listening to the racers, compiling information for the ultimate downhill race bike in the next millennium. The list of priorities in design were, low stand over height for safety, lower weight placement for for quick handling, 14" bottom bracket height for stability in corners, 7" fork compatibility, shock placement protected from roost- (shock rebuilds are very expensive!) and super rigidity for for precise handling.
Strengths: The DHR is very well balanced in the air, easy to get used to, corners exceptionaly well, feels solid. Aside from its high level of performance there are no surprises with this bike. Just point and go! The faster you go, the better the bike works for you through braking bumps, jumps, drops, berms, rock gardens, whatever. This bike can handle whatever you can put in front of it.
Weaknesses: A bit heavier than some of the other frames out there but bullet proof. The only thing slowing this frame down is you.
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This is the bike for you. Every quality you are looking for in a DH frame, this one has. The price may be a bit higher but look at what your getting and where its made. Your not going to be let down. Even the professionalism of the folks at Turner is top notch. I really couldn't be happier with my DH bike. Buy it, ride it, love it.
Bike Setup: mostly azonic components, Sram, Maxxis, white bros DH3, Ringle, Hurricane seatpost, Hayes brakes.
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Ken Bennett
a Downhiller
from Peoria,AZ USA
Date Reviewed: September 15, 2002
Strengths: This is quite possibly the best frame design to date. It handles better than anything else I've ridden and still pedals well. I even climb some hills that others walk with there XC bikes. The bike is built like a tank, there's gussets everywhere. I've done big drops to flat, gap jumps and just about every trail at South Mtn. with this bike. No matter what you throw at it, it'll handle more. One of the magazine guys even rode one at the RedBull Rampage.The pivots all have grease ports so maint. is easy. The seat tube is straight so you can run a longer post for those treks to the trailhead, then lower it for your descent.The factory support is top notch, they'll make sure you order the right size frame and set it up with the right spring for your body weight. The cable routing is great since there are no bosses at all. You get bolt on eyelets to hold the shift housing and brake lines. This combined with the integrated chainguide mount made this the fastest, easiest DH bike build I've ever done. I didn't have to saw or file anything!
Weaknesses: Hmmm. The frame is heavier than a lot of others but it isn't going to flex or break. The pivot bushings were a bit tight but I was able to sand them down, now everything's fine.
Bottom Line:
This frame is worth the price, even if you can't afford it right away. I'm glad I waited and got this instead of what I could afford at the time. If you can demo one, it will sell itself.
Similar Products Used: Intense M1 and UZZI DH, Titus Quasimoto, Foes, Mtn Cycle, whatever I could try out.
Bike Setup: Turner DHR, Bombshell Kamikaze fork, Profile cranks and bars Hayes discs, Mr Dirt chainguide, Maxxis tires
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Dave Franciosy
a Downhiller
from UK
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2002
Strengths: well what can i say this has to be the best bike i have used i feel more at home on it then any other frame. The bike has helped me gain more confidence day by day. I am already doing bigger drops then before.The bike dose not feel heaver even in mid air it handles so well it is unture
Weaknesses: well not a weakness more a good thing (waiting time ) means more people like them and want them which is a good thing
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Ok you will see if you look at my site www.southerndownhill.com that i do ride for turner in the uk so i am only going to say good things about them.But what i say i would even if i did not ride for turner, ok the bike pedals better them most bikes with 5" travel. Having the romic shock on the bike helps it more i can even ride street on it too only because they is no dh tracks near by so street helps me stay a little fitter.The bike has got some very good point grease ports are a big help also the cable guides are well thought out too all i can say is the bike is the best ever and i will stick with this bike for a very long time WELL DONE TURNER YOU GOT IT RIGHT AND YOU HAVE MADE A VERY NICE DH BIKE THANKS GUYS Ps thanks too riverside for the build of the team bikes Turner Riverside Dh team www.southerndownhill.com
Similar Products Used: turner rfx,M1,222,atx 1 ,dare,cortina dh8,
Bike Setup: 2002 frame with a romic shock,boxxer forks (black box tuned by www.tftunedshox.com) deemax wheels,kore stem,middleburn rs7 (165),mr dirt gizmo,xt rear mech,xt block,pc 68 chain,xt shifter,dx 30 pedals,comp 16,hope m4 205 f 185 r azonic bars ,turner sdg seat,ddg post,odi lockons blackspire head set sks front mud guard
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Submitted by
Rob
a Racer
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: December 23, 2001
Strengths: Takes big drops like no other, pedals like an XC bike, Stiff as hell, killer worksmanship, neddle bearings/grease fittings, perfect low center of gravity for unmatched cornering, stable at high speed, solid frame, huge headtube.
Weaknesses: Absolutly none
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This is the best DH bike on the planet hands down. If there is one better, I haven't ridden it. I've always owned M1s until I got the chance to borrow one of these bikes for 2 weeks. The M1 is a great bike, but this bike is even better. After letting the 7 other riders on my team test ride this bike, we have unanimously decided to make the switch to Turner. The stand out features over the M1 are the jumping, speed stability, drops, and cornering. The frame weighs about 3/4 lbs. more than the M1 but it's all in the right place. (down low) I had to slide the stanchions down in the crowns about 1/4" to get the same slack head angle. The Boxxer works perfect. The bike I tested had a Fox shock, which felt great due to the suspension design. I was also able to try an Avalanche shock in the bike which felt like it would be more suited to big drops and not racing. After seeing what the Romic did for my last M1, I wanted to get it for the frame I ordered. I got my Romic the day I built my bike. It made all the difference. Adding the Romic shock gives the bike the feel of having 1 more inch of travel. The rear wheel just pours itself over everything in the bikes way. It's great on the small stuff, and especially the big stuff. With the Romic shock, you can't get a better DH bike for Racing/Freeride. Get one!
Similar Products Used: I've owned 3 M1s, have ridden; RM9, VPP10, Chumba Wumba, Super 8, and GT DHI
Bike Setup: Turner Medium with Romic Shock, Boxxer Fork, Mavic 521/Hadley, Thomson, King, High Roller ST, RaceFace NS, Easton EA70, Shorty Deluxe 50mm, XTR, MRP
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Submitted by
Anthony Cuomo
a Downhiller
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: September 28, 2001
Strengths: What is to say other than CRAFTSMANSHIP, this bike is the shiznic. I have never riden another bike that corners so well and plows through technical sections so easialy, and pedals like no other DH bike other than a GT but hey lets face it GT's bike only Pedals well. I will proudly say I am glad that I bought this BIKE!!!! Last but not least the customer service was awesome!!!
Weaknesses: The only weakness that I could see, is that the fox shock needs a slower rebound and that is not Turner's Fault.
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This bike kick some serious ASH!!! Why buy a Intense(ovalised headtube or craked FRAME) Or a GT(cheap and what do we get when u buy something so cheap SNAP CRACKLE POP, and u end up in the Hospital), the only other bike I would reccomend is a FOES because of the craftsmanship thanx to (MR. Parsens). But hey Turner Pedals a heck of a lot better,weigh's less, and rides better!!!
Similar Products Used: FOES DHS MONO, INTENSE M1, YETI DH9, LENZ, SCHWINN,KHS=SHI* and GT DHi(snap crackle)
Bike Setup: MARZ Shiver, Shimano XT and DX Pedals, Mavic 321, MAXXIS MOB's and HIGH ROLLERS, HAYES 8 in., and HAYES Hubs
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Andy
a Downhiller
from UK
Date Reviewed: April 22, 2001
Strengths: This frame is exceptionally well designed, built and finished. It is easy to pedal on flat sections and the rear travel is smooth and progressive. There is never any sign of bottoming out and yet the first few inches of travel are soft enough to iron out all but the smallest of bumps. The fittings for the chain device are sturdy and straightforward to use (no setting up required).
Weaknesses: There are no problems with this frame but before buying it you should consider the kit you are going to put on it. You will need a fork with 7"+ of travel and durable hardware (it will get hammered). The shock adjusters are a little hard to reach on the move but with practice it is possible. I'd advise putting some tape over the grease ports on the linkages to keep the crud from getting pushed in there next time you lube the bearings. The cable routing is not perfect if you have your rear brake lever on the left side but it's far better then a lot of other DH frames. There are no bosses for drinking bottles or mudguards!!!
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I have ridden up and down things that I thought were impossible. For example, riding down a long flight of steps is easy; riding up steps is a little harder and slower. Now imagine being able to ride UP a flight of steps at the same speed as you would fly off the top of them. It is not just the amount of travel that makes this bike so capable but also the way in which it behaves in corners. The low centre of gravity and good standover height make it well balanced and very stable. Don't buy this bike if you like spending a lot of time in the air. Although it flies well and the landings are always soft you need a big jump to get off the ground (this is not a fault, bikes are faster and easier to control this way). The Mr Dirt chain guide is easy to fit but it does put a lot of drag on the chain. If you can get one with rollers instead of two blocks then try to fit that. I'm modifying mine at the moment. I have yet to take this beastie out for a real thrashing on a serious DH course. Most UK races have been postponed due to the foot and mouth. I'll update this review when I've had a chance to make a proper assessment. If you want more up to date reviews feel free to e-mail me.
Similar Products Used: Cannondale Super V - a great bike but not designed for DH.
Bike Setup: Modified White Bros UD150 Forks - upgrade due soon to Shivers or Stratos S8. Hope Big-un hubs and Mavic 321 rims. Tioga Factory DH tyres (at the moment). Hope hydraulic discs - 185mm front 155mm rear (don't consider anything else). Race Face North Shore cranks - 165mm for ground clearance. Various Shimano bits and pieces (rear mech etc). Tioga bars and stem (oversize bulge). Oury grips - the best you can get. Mr Dirt Gizmo chain guide.
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Submitted by
John Frucci
a Downhiller
from Kalamazoo, MI
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2001
Strengths: For all reading: This is a no B.S. review. I got this frame over others (M1, Balfa NR, DHi) because of its reputation. I have no problem calling a spade a spade, so what you are about to read are my honest views on the DHR. Well built, pedals great, plush, rigid laterally, nice paint, easy to maintain, well thought cable routing (all DH bikes should be able to run continuous housing), heavy duty decals...all in all, well thought out and executed
Weaknesses: Not necessarily a weakness but, the proprietary chain guide is not available yet...Mr. Dirt hasn't got them available as of April, and MRP's won't be compatible due to a design change (according to MRP). The explanation I got was that the Turner was designed with the Rev A. standard mount - the industry ended up with Rev B. Minor differences will make the MRP direct mount incompatible, but the Mr. Dirt will be ok. However, with very minor machining, the Black Spire guide is holding up great! Not a sqeak or dropped chain yet.
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Company: When you call, you speak with David Turner. Enough said. They are more than willing to accomodate and answer any questions you might have, no matter how trivial. Service counts!
Performance: Definitely a positive review so far, noticed the difference between the DHR and my Giant immediately. Turner pedals so well. Also 4 pounds lighter than the Giant; Turner comes in at 44.5 - pretty nice (possibly wheel-set change?). Felt like I had way to much sag initially, but when I measured, it was spot on (5/8"). I contribute this to the low BB, which may make it it feel lower to the ground than other bikes when set up properly.
I've taken real 7-8' drops onto flats and have set up bike so it bottoms lightly on these hits. After a day of experimentation bike seems to be working well with this set up: 5 clicks on rebound 4 on compression, no preload - plenty of room on either end to adjust.
No pedal clipping yet - just keep 'em level. As for cock- pit size, I've got a straight Thomson post with a 70 mm RF stem, on a large frame. No worries. The 70mm stem is more comfortable when standing and keeps you right over the BB - still plenty of room to get off the back.
First race in 3 weeks more info available then... But as off now...it kicks the ass of anything I've used or seen! Value rating based on actual retail - it's an incredible bike, but still a lot of money retail.
Bike Setup: Monster T, King HS, Race Face 113mm BB, Race Face NS Cranks, Black Spire guide, Hayes 8" discs, Thomson post, Race Face Bar, XTR drivetrain, Time pedals