Submitted by
james arnold
a Weekend Warrior
from S.D. CA.
Date Reviewed: December 27, 2003
Strengths: Its pretty strong.
Weaknesses: nothing serious, paint chips.
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the stiffee fr is an awesome frame, maybe a little too damn expensive, but well worth it if you want quality. set it up however you want. well worth the money. take it anywhere, it can hang on the dh courses, dirt jumping spots, on single track, where ever.
Bike Setup: Marzocchi exr, lx,xt components, avids, 26" rino lite w/2.3 kujos' up front and 24" double wide w/2.75 arrow prime bites on the back. Easton 2" monkey lite riser bar on azonic world force stem.
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Submitted by
Martin Peden
a Weekend Warrior
from Edinburgh Scotland
Date Reviewed: November 17, 2003
Strengths: Geometry Strength
Weaknesses: Crappy paintwork and stickers Will not take some (tioga dh)2.3 tires
Bottom Line:
I've broken all the above frames by a combination of having car doors opened on me, falling over and denting frames on rocks and cracking head tubes by riding street on cross country frames. So with some insurance replacement cash I’ve gone for something tougher. Now the Norco fireball was ~1.6kg as a bare frame the cove comes in at ~2.5kg (these are 21" frames) and all that extra metal has proved its worth as my riding has advanced with the extra piece of mind provided by this frame.
With a 100mm fork I had a few climbing wheelies, but that’s might have more to do with the stubby stem I’ve fitted.
The claimed tire clearance is 2.5. Now I fitted Tioga 2.3 DH front and rear, bit heavy but all good. That is until I found a little cut in the chain stay from the tires. Not good, so be warned
Even with these minor niggles, this is still the best, most confidence inspiring frame I’ve had the pleasure of riding. Get one if you value: Value, strenght, pimpy looks, cut and paste responses
Bike Setup: Marzocci MX pros with ETA, 36 spoke mavic F519 on xt hubs, deore/xt shifiting, race face/tompson/easton finishing kit, Contenental 2.3 verticals
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Submitted by
Gunther
a Weekend Warrior
from Australia
Date Reviewed: June 15, 2003
Strengths: Stiff, strong, well ballanced, better dampening over bumps than other alluminum frames i've tried
Weaknesses: Paint, bolts for water bottle cage too far up to fit a large water bottle in.
Bottom Line:
If your looking for a play bike then look no further cause this bike was made for fun. The balance of this bike is allmost perfect. You can be screaming round a corner and if a wheel starts to slide you can just shift your weight a tiny bit forward or backwards to get balanced again. I would recomend this frame to anyone looking for a 'do it all' hardtail bike. Its best on jumps, drops, downhill and technical bits but lacks a little on general trail riding and climbs over XC frames. Oh yeah, it also looks sweet.
Bike Setup: '03 Stiffee FR 15", marz z1 fr sl, 8" hayes mag, raceface cranks, sun singletrack rims
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Submitted by
Michael Burnside
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City, UT
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2003
Strengths: It's amazing that the frame is so light, nible and quick that you wouldn't expect it to burly and strong too! You'll get looks everywhere you go because this frame is a thing of beauty. The welds are marvelous and the overall quality ranks with the best-of-the-best.
Weaknesses: The only thing I would change is a clear coat ontop of the decals, etc. to protect them from the elements.
Bottom Line:
If you ride hard and want a bike that can handle the abuse and at the same time make you feel like you are in control, buy this bike.
If you're a weight wee-nee you shouldn't be reading this article, but for everyone else looking for the ULTIMATE hardtail experience, Cove is IT!
I'm not one to give a perfect score because there is always room for improvement, but Cove comes damn close...
Similar Products Used: You name it. Klein, GT, Kona, Specialized, Intense
Bike Setup: '03 Stiffee FR, Fox Float TALAS RL, Hadley Hubs, Rino-lite XL, Moto Raptor tires, Race Face Prodigy DH w/ signature FR BB, Thompson stem/seat post, Race Face bars w/ ODI Rogue grips and XTR shifters/derailurs
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Submitted by
Robert
a Weekend Warrior
from North Vancouver, BC
Date Reviewed: May 7, 2003
Strengths: Very, very strong. Very stiff. Suprising light for such a strong bike. Penultimate all-around hardtail.
Weaknesses: 2001 had a poor chainline. Very stiff.
Bottom Line:
I first owned a 2001 Stiffee. Loved everything about it except that the chainline was a little off, causing dropped chains and chainsuck.
Upgraded to the 2003 - a great improvement all around (which was quite a feat). RAD tubing is stiffer and stronger. Chainline is perfect (absolutely zero chainsuck or chain drop). Climbs like a goat. Angles are great for steep descents. Rails tight trails. Takes hits and drops with ease. By far the best bike frame I've ever owned.
Similar Products Used: Marin, Kona, Norco, and RM hardtails.
Bike Setup: Marz DJ1. Race Face BB, cranks, chainrings, bashguard, headset, and handlebars. Shimano XT rear, LX front, Deore shifters. Hayes HFX-9 brakes (8" front, 6" rear). Axiom flats. Hayes Com24 2.5" front, High Roller 2.5" rear. Mavic D321 wheels on XT hubs.
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Submitted by
Travis AKA Jerry Bickle AKA Meyers
from Halifax, N.S.
Date Reviewed: December 27, 2002
Strengths: Strong, stiff, low top tube, room for a big tire, not too harsh, handles well.
Weaknesses: Thought the paint looked good until my Loco Moto came back from warranty replacement with a black annodized finish. Annodizing looks better.
Bottom Line:
I moved from MB to NS this summer and brought this bike along for the trip. I rode lots of trails, everything from tight twisty single track to DH at Killington, VT, to the rock/root fest here in NS. I even commute on it. This is not just a free ride bike but a great all round mountain bike. If you need a strong hard tail then consider the Stiffee.
Similar Products Used: 89 Team Stumpjumper, 97 Kona Explosif
Bike Setup: 02 Xfly 100 w/ springs, King HS, RF stem, Specialized riser bar, Thompson post, Berzerker saddle, RF cranks, Time peddles, XT ders, XT thumb shifters, Avid Ti levers, Avid discs, 2 wheelsets, Hope Bulb/317, and Velocity front/XT rear/ Rhino lites.
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Submitted by
Dave
a Downhiller
from Lucerne, Switzerland
Date Reviewed: December 17, 2002
Strengths: geometry!!!!
Weaknesses: Paint quality, weak dropouts. Inexistent customer service from Cove
Bottom Line:
This is the epitome of a playbike! Instead of just riding you play with the trails, with obstacles and with everything else. Trail bombing, dirt jumping, trials riding, wheeling, you name it! I even did a Transalp tour with this bike. No problem! So if you could just have one bike, it has to be this one. I am almost completely satisfied with this bike.... with one exception: the paint quality. The paint suddenly starts flaking off the frame. I never had such problems with a bike. In addition to that, I never did grinding or such thing. I just happened when I cleaned the frame with warm water.
So I tried to contact Cove several times. Since I do not live in North America it was impossible to call the toll-free phonenumber. No reply by mail! First, I wanted to order the frame directly via Cove, but the e-shop did not work, nor did I get an answer to my various e-mails. Wake up guys! A product not only consists of the core product (frame) but also of various other components (reliablity, service, availability)....
I am very very glad that I've ordered this frame at Jenson USA. Great great company with very fast and friendly customer services. Highly recommendable!!!! They now try to find a solution for me. Bottom line: frame 5 points, Jenson 5 points, Cove 0 points!
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Chameleon, K2 ZED, Mongoose Pro SX
Bike Setup: Stiffee FR frame 17", Fox Vanilla RLC125, XT, Hope Mini Hydros, Mavic F519, Race Face, Titec, Continental Vertical Pro, Azonic
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Submitted by
Dave
from Washington
Date Reviewed: October 23, 2002
Strengths: No place on mtbr to rate the Cove "Hummer" so I will do it here.
Bottom Line:
This may very well be the best titanium bicycle ever made -- it is certainly the best hardtail ever built -- stiff yet resilient, a real trail rooster! Not too lite not too heavy and tuff as hell. Sandvik constructs works of art. It is at least a 5! If you want a quality product and a quality ride and are ready to meet a permanent addition to your stable - get ye one.
Similar Products Used: Zaskar, Ruckus, Spec SWorks, Cove "HandJob"(also a great bike), Bianchi Grizzly, + inumerable soft tails etc,etc over 20 years.
Bike Setup: z1 freeride with eta, and disc brakes, xtr are the only meaningful components.
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Submitted by
Kevin J
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto
Date Reviewed: October 18, 2002
Strengths: Sell everything you got....and get one. This bike is a work of art, bomb proof, very upright=very comfortable, goes through anything, up anything, down anything, across anything, over, under ....you name it!
Weaknesses: None.
Bottom Line:
Honestly...if your willing to pay a few bucks for a quality bike...don't hesitate.
Similar Products Used: Can't think of any....this bike is in a class all its own.
Bike Setup: Two wheels, a seat, handle bars....everything you need to hit the trail!
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Submitted by
Richard Sutcliffe
a Cross Country Rider
from Kendal, Cumbria
Date Reviewed: September 23, 2002
Strengths: Going fast downhill and taking corners. A nimble frame that responds really well, lets you really throw it around. comfortable on drop offs and in the air when the need arises. Very, very well built.
Weaknesses: Main weakness I've found is that the front end is very light on the climbs making technical, steep trails a bit of a nightmare. Also (as you'd expect) it is very stiff and unforgiving and after three hours in the saddle your arse really feels it.
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This bike delivers what the hype leads you to expect. Great feeling bike, makes you feel in control in situations where you are probably not. It feels like a bit of a burly beast and I wouldn't recommend it to for a smaller, passive rider, this beast needs to be ridden hard and put away wet. Not a light bike either. My build is detailed above and it weighs in pretty hefty. I have to say it would go against the character of the bike to build it up superlight too. It needs the burly componentry to fill it out nicely.
Bike Setup: Stiffee FR(Rad tubing). Bomber z3 100 air. Hope hubs. Mavic 519 rims. LX crankset, shifters & front mech. XT rear mech. XT disc front and rear. Shimano SPD pedals. Flite titanium saddle.
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Submitted by
Marcel
a Downhiller
from North Shore
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2002
Strengths: Super strong. Great geometry. Easton RAD tubing.
Weaknesses: None.
Bottom Line:
Unreal bike that will not brake. Handles everything well. Buy it. It's one of the best hardtails out there. If there were any issues with the older Stiffie's without the side gussets cracking, this will certainly no longer be a problem with the Easton tubes. The price is also super cheap for what you get. Nice work Cove.
Bike Setup: 02 Z1 Dropoff, XT, Race Face cranks, BB, headset, bar, stem, etc.
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Submitted by
James Derdock, Jr.
a Weekend Warrior
from Annapolis, MD , United States
Date Reviewed: August 7, 2002
Strengths: Nice welds and gussetts, very nice dropouts, replaceable der. hanger.
This bike loves to go very fast. I was hoping for more of a play-bike, but this is a great Freeride/XC bike. It's very strong and handles well.
Weaknesses: Bottom bracket is a bit high. It makes clearing rocks easy, but doesn't let you rail turns or make short slow switchbacks. Would be nice if stickers could be clear coated.
Bottom Line:
If you want to get into drops and stunts but want to be able to ride your bike up and down hills, this is a good choice. It's basically a beefy XC bike. I like mine, but who wants to give me their LeToy, Evil, or Balfa???
Similar Products Used: Not really any. I've ridden many full blown XC bikes, but this is the most bombproof bike I've ridden.
Bike Setup: Fox Vanilla 125RLC, King Headset, Thomson stem/post, Easton Bars, LX cranks/v-brakes/shifters/rear der., XTR front Der., XT cassette, Rhyno Lite XL's on XT Disc hubs, Tioga 2.3 DH's, ODI Lock ons, WTB Saddle
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Submitted by
Andrew 'Goose' Gosline
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver, BC, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2002
Strengths: Price Strength Climbing (yay hardtails:) Designed at North Shore for North Shore freeriding Stability
Weaknesses: Weight Flimsy decals
Bottom Line:
This bike is very solid. I've ridden the shore (easier trails) and whistler on numerous occasions as well as many urban outings at UBC and downtown Vancouver; this bike has been flawless! (only flaw is my riding:)
I'm a mechanical engineer, and I closely inspected the frame before Cove put the bike together for me. The welds are superb, attention to detail is commendable, and design is excellent.
If you're looking for a tough freeride hardtail or a hardcore cross country bike, this is a good option. If you're looking to get right into 3 foot plus drops or downhill racing, maybe consider a dually.
Submitted by
Gary White
a Cross Country Rider
from London, UK
Date Reviewed: May 29, 2002
Strengths: Unbreakable, fantastically rigid and confidence-inspiring. Spot-on head angles work well with a 130 mm fork. Aggressive geometry and 'Kona-like' top tube give great handling.
Weaknesses: Absolutely none that I can think of.
Bottom Line:
I am not really into freeriding - this is my heavy duty cross-country bike. The frame can handle anything that you chuck at it (- its ability outweighs that of the rider - well this one at least) and hence inspires great confidence. 130 mm travel forks do make the bike sit up quite high, so consider using a short stem. Would work very well with 100mm too. Considering the 130mm travel that I have, steering is surprisingly good - highly recommended.My bike build still comes in at less than 26lbs, which I can handle as I use it as 'throw it at anything' hardtail, not really an enduro bike. You can lighten the spec to make a really top-rate XC bike or beef it up for freeride. The Marzocchi Z1 freeride forks are an excellent match.
Bike Setup: Cove Stiffee FR (17" frame, 2001 model), XTR/XT cassette, shifers and mechs, Race Face North Shore cranks with 44/32/22 rings, Hope C2 brakes, Mavic F519 rims and Hope Bulb hubs (front thru-axle), Panaracer 2.1 trailblaster, Easton EA50 stem, bar and seatpost, Koobi SI saddle
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Submitted by
FR4LIFE
a Weekend Warrior
from California
Date Reviewed: March 25, 2002
Strengths: Unsurpassed Strength! I have the 2002 stiffee w/ rad tubing and it's simply badass! Canadians know how to build bikes that can survive some serious hammerings! Freakin' NUKE PROOF!
Weaknesses: Stickers Suck, if your one who gives a damn! You can't ever contact them because there out riding!
Bottom Line:
I'm very impressed with the workmanship that Deep Cove puts into there bikes. Every where I ride the bike turns heads, everyone wants to know where I got it. If you own a cove, you know what i'm saying. I had a King steelset installed which I believe is a must for any serious jumpers or dropoff bubbas!
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Chameleon, awesome trials bike!
Bike Setup: 02' Stiffee, king steelset, King Iso disc hubs, Fox vanilla 125RLC, Hope 4 pots, Raceface northshore cranks(isis) and DH BB, MRP mini-me, Shimano 646's, XTR shifters, casette and rear der., Panaracer fireDH pro's, SDG Big boy saddle on a hurricane 100 seatpost, easton monkeykite hi-rise, wipperman chain