7.75” travel speed machine. With 2.5” of rearward travel this frames feels as smooth as a 10” plow bike but with 7.75” bike nimbleness. The chainstays start extra short at 16.25” which maintains it’s quick, sharp, lively feel.
Zero chain stretch and squatting under braking.
20mm bearings with custom axles. 10lbs frame and shock.
Strengths: Where to begin. Plush and fliud; this bike gives crazy contol and is completely stable at the fastest speeds. With a 10 speed drive train you'll surprise the XC and All-mountain bikers when you pass them on the steep climbs. Braking is different feeling than other bikes, it is very smooth you don't feel the rocks or chatter when you are braking over rocks. The bike tends to sits back when braking. For big drops it is hard to tell when you left the ground and when you landed. Besides the bottomless suspension(I still haven't felt like I've hit the end of its travel) the initial impact that is transfered into your legs almost completely disappears. Perect therapy for those with bad knees. On top of it all, it is awesome looking.
Weaknesses: I'm trying to be objective and find weakness in how it rides, but so far with everything I've given it, it keeps screaming for more. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It would not be ideal for riding long uphill trails. Even though it climbs really steep technical stuff like a billy goat.
First off I am not a professional rider nor claim to be. I know each rider has somthing different he likes, so with that in mind if you are looking for rock gobbling, fluid, crazy control that can take the steepest rocky downhills as well as climb and pedal then you are looking for what I seach for. This bike feels far better than any bike I've been on and I've tried most of them. It is kind of unreal. I attribute that partly to the rearward travel. Half of the riding I do is DH and the other half is on technical, steep, and flat trails and it handles them better than my all-mountain bike used to. My expectations were high and this bike continues to exceeded them all. Canfield is also an amazing company to work with.
Strengths: Everything. It's cornering, pedaling, weight, aesthetics. CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY ARE AWESOME!
Best DH bike I've ever ridden. This thing handles like it's on rails. It can plow the gnarliest rock gardens, but is light and nimble enough to change lines upon command. I cased a couple of 20 foot doubles and the bike does not buck like every other bike I've ridden. I am floored by the performance of this thing.
Similar Products Used: Giant Faith, Trek Session, Tomac Primer, Turner DHR
Bike Setup: Elka Stage 5 with 888 RC3 Evo
Date Reviewed: May 12, 2012
Strengths: Everything, very smooth, jumps great, fast, corners like no others, suspention butter smooth with Marzocchi world cup, and Boxxer. I have spoke with Chris Canfield on several occassions, and they are always willing to help.
Bottom line great bike, build, quality, and the ride, amazing. If you ever have the chance to ride or own one of these bikes, go for it. Wheather at the bike park, your local trails or jumps around the house, this bike will do it all.
from Park City, UT USA
Date Reviewed: December 2, 2011
Strengths: Rearward arcing travel lets the bike roll over obstacles without losing momentum in the way that all forward and upward arcing suspension designs inherently do. The short chainstays allow you to rail corners, but the wheelbase growth in the rough allows for greater confidence and stability at speeds. The build quality is amazing and the details like cable routing and welding work make you feel like you are getting what you paid for. New in 2011 are three shock placement options to fine tune the suspension for track and personal preference.
Weaknesses: The bike is a touch heavier than the newest carbon offerings.
Often hard to get if you don't order early enough.
This is my second Jedi (but not in a row), so I guess that says a lot. I have had a couple of the premier DH frames over the past few years and ridden many more, and without a doubt the Jedi is my favorite. It rails corners, doesn't slow down or get hung up in the rough, pedals admirably, pops (especially in the right suspension setting) nicely, and is so solidly built that it inspires confidence in all situations.
The Jedi can't plow like the V-10, but my skill level has progressed to the point where I'm looking for something that I drive, not that drives me. In situations where I don't have the option of slowing down in a complex line (like a sustained rock garden with a couple of turns in it), I like that I can maneuver the bike on the ground as well as pop from point to point if need be. I found that to be difficult with the V-10 as it rode too deep in the travel to nimbly redirect its course, so all adjustments had to be made with the tires in contact with the ground, which can be difficult in a rock garden. I didn't like the Demo 8 in the same situations, but for different reasons: it hung up on every little thing and unless you were in the air the ride was choppy and abrupt. The Demo cornered and popped well, but lost too much momentum if you didn't time every obstacle right and avoid hitting them with the rear tire.
Another thing that I love is how much this bike rewards you for being over the handlebars with your weight. The more aggressive you ride, the shorter the chainstay length will remain and the snappier the ride will feel. I know that proper positional will help on any bike, but here you will notice it immediately and dramatically.
The only reason it didn't get the highest value ratings is because there are a few top-end frames that can be had for less, albeit without the shock options that the Jedi has.
A bike can only do so much for a rider, but the Jedi is so great at hiding subtle imperfections and misjudgements that it is a great choice for someone who is working to step up their game, but doesn't have the sniper accuracy or riding time of Aaron Gwin. I certainly don't but it's helped me move from sport to pro class in 3 years, and that's all that a guy who doesn't ride for a living can hope for, right?
Similar Products Used: 2001 Santa Cruz Bullit, 2005 Norco A-Line, 2007 Santa Cruz V-10, 2008 Canfield Jedi, 2010 Specialized Demo 8 II, 2011 Canfield Jedi
Bike Setup: Fox 40, Hope Hubs w/ Mavic 823s and tubeless Minion DHFs, XO shifting, Gravity Light cranks, Saint brakes, C2 drop stem, Atlas FR bars, Shimano DX pedals, MRP G1 guide, etc
from Portland, OR.
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2011
Strengths: Fast, Durable, No flex, very high quality build, Jumps Great, Corners like a dream, no chain slap/ pedal kick, unique.. really unique, low, slack, fast.
Weaknesses: A bit heavy but what the hell for what it can do Im not complaining.
I love this bike; it has such a unique feel to it. You actually sit in the bike rather than off the back like other downhill bikes. The build quality of the frame is incredible. You can tell that there was a lot of love put into the frame from start to finish. The cable routing is perfect, the links are rock solid with no flex at all; I can tell that this frame is built to last!
When you sit on the bike you feel like you are on top of it rather than off the back. It has a plush feeling, but does not squat 3 inches down like the V10 when you sit on it. It pedals incredible and the chain pulley design causes the bike to be super responsive no matter the situation with no chain slap or chain slack. I wanted a bike that was more nimble than my V10 but also handle anything I threw at it with no comprise. This bike does it all! The low top tube makes this bike super easy to throw around whether its in the air or railing corners. Also, the bike seems faster in rock gardens and roots and does not bog down; it just skips right over them. The front wheel is super easy to get off the ground which makes this bike super fun! Coming into a rough section I have the option to either run straight over it or hop and skip my way through it. I mentioned prior that the Jedi is great in the air, and it is super easy to jump and throw around! The first time I rode it I was sending things bigger! It really does great in all situations, and every time I ride it I love it more and more!
If you want a super fun, high quality, no holds barred downhill bike, then the Jedi is what you want! I love this in every way, and it will last me many many seasons!
Strengths: Everything. The frame is a work of art and it does everything the Canfield brothers promise.
Weaknesses: Only comes in black ( i have the 2010 model)
I have never ridden a bike that has given me more confidence in such a short period of time. I am cornering faster, jumping farther and riding through rock gardens faster than i ever have before. Anyone who is thinking about getting a Jedi should stop thinking about it and just do it. You will not be disappointed.
Similar Products Used: 07 Specialized Bighit, Kona Stinky Deluxe, Giant Glory, Trek session 88
Bike Setup: 888 Fork, code brakes, Elka rear shock, Easton havoc wheels, Sram x-9 rear derailer, Race Face cranks, point 1 Podium Pedals, schwalbe wicked will tires
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2010
Strengths: Builds light, good construction, stiff, design and asthetics, ease of use and cleaning
Weaknesses: None, Ive had all 3 years and love me...
DO NOT RUN A FOX DHX ON THIS BIKE!!! FOX is way to progressive and works against the design....
I have ridden this bike and ridden it hard I have beat the crap out of all 3 and love the design. The 2010 has a 1 degree slacker HA and a shorter HT so it can rake out more easily as well as accept the short crown for the boxxer.
The design is flawless it works amazing...
DO NOT RUN A FOX DHX on this bike as it gets progressive and like the guy below stated the shock causes the bike to try and buck you up and over or throw the rear high off jumps... I HAVE NOT had any issues like this since getting rid of the DHX....
Of the shocks Ive ran the Avalanche WOODIE is the most awe inspiring shock to date on it and Ive ridden them all....
The Avalanche cartridge in a Boxxer chasis matches the rear PERFECT and literally takes this bike to a whole new level...
I have not found any weakness in this bike infact Ive found with the Avalanche suspension this thing got even faster and MORE stable at wide open speed... It is a beast and after 3 I will be selling the 2010 to get a 2011 if its the same... LOL I say that every year and the little changes are things Id not have considered but make it a bit better every round...
Bike Setup: Jedi, I9s, Avalanche woodie, Avalanche cartridge in 2010 boxxer WC, Schwalbe, THomson, twenty 6, formula the ones etc....
from Portland Oregon
Date Reviewed: March 8, 2010
Strengths: where to even start. a rediculous amount of time & testing had to have gone into building these frames. it can only be decribed as a slipper clad cheetah running over piles of cotton on any terrain you can find. while railing through some of the gnarliest rooted, tattered & baby head strewn sections of dh trail in oregon, this rig just skimmed over all of it without making a sound & kept begging to be pedaled faster. it's like the rear end of the bike just does not exist. control your front end & balance & there is nothing you can't pop over effortlessly. it tracks like it's stalking the line in front of you, it pedals like a 3" bike, and it corners with magnetic force. there is no such thing as lateral movement. insane.
and looks... forget about it. the machining & overall finish of this frameset is artwork. the lines all compliment each other in addition to performing the way they should.
but the best thing about this frame (and any other canfield) is the support you get once you own one. those boys keep tight reigns on their design & quality, and every frame is assembled by hand by one of them, what other frame of this caliber can claim that?
i honestly feel that you are paying 50% for the development & material cost, and the other 50% for having the manufacturer behind you on every trail you hit.
this is my second canfield (had a lucky for a while) and both have been mind blowing. i am normally a set it and forget it, don't notice the small details kind of rider, but this thing just is leaps & bounds noticeable.
Weaknesses: some would say price, but they have yet to ride one. in all honesty i would have had to gone without at full retail so i get it, but now that i own & have ridden one, i would beg borrow & steal to replace it.
in a bizarre way, a weakness could be that you don't realize exactly how fast you are going. my mind couldn't compute the line ahead of me fast enough. you expect a bike to slow up a bit in chattery sections and this just does not, so you have to brake accordingly.
bottom line is this bike does not fit into one class of bike. it is nimble enough to jump all day on, and stealthy enough to rally any singletrack it sees. i am not a big fan of pedaling big travel bikes, but could easily do miles on this thing. it's in a class of its own.
if you are reading this review to help make a decision on making the purchase, consider this a yes vote. this is not just another "boutique" bike that is a fad, this thing is the real deal & i dare you to find anybody that has ridden one hating on it.
Similar Products Used: Canfield Lucky, Astrix Havoc, Knolly Delirium T, Santa Cruz V10
Bike Setup: 888 rc3 wc, fox rc4, holzfeller oct, formula one's, havoc wheelset, x9 drive
from Grand Junction, CO, USA
Date Reviewed: August 31, 2009
Strengths: Short Chain stays and REARWARD WHEEL PATH!!!
I'm a CAT 1 racer at the top of his class and I can honestly say if you have the money, this is the ultimate DH racing machine. The rearward wheel path gobbles up bumps and doesn't slow you down. The short chain stays make it easy to get the front wheel up and make it corner like its on rails. The rear end has no noticeable flex and the bike is just solid all around. The bike is ultra predictable and almost feels magical at times. Plus, Chris and Lance Canfield are awesome guys to deal with. If any problem arises, they will help you out. Chris is a hard core racer and knows what it takes to build an ultimate race bike. They are great guys and built a killer machine
Weaknesses: Not the best bike for ramped doubles and tables.
Bike gets light and sketchy on wide-open, warp-speed runs.
Rear shock hits frame on large frames when fully compressed.
Rear axle arrived with a slight bend in it.
Not as bottomless travel feel as others have implied.
Trying to provide as unbiased review as possible. I can't stand it when reviewers say "none" or "You must be joking, it's a Demo!" in response to Product Weaknesses. Nothing is perfect, just pick whatever suits your riding style best.
Most reports I've read on the Jedi will have you believe it does everything including your dry cleaning. While it does have it's merits, there are some downsides.
The Jedi rides like an 8-year old on a Pixie Stick bender. It's frenetic, with lighting quick reflexes. It hops, darts, and skips through lines. Changing your course in a boulder field is as simple as looking where you want to be and lifting the bike up. The tighter the course or turn, the better. It rails berms and corners like mad. Pair this frame with a single-crown fork and you'll have a wicked slopestyle bike.
This handling ability presents some downfalls when you get it out of it's element. On wide-open, high-speed descents, the bike has a "get the he** off me" kind of feel. At these speeds, the Jedi starts to feel light, sketchy, and it's short wheelbase becomes a liability. This sketchiness makes you "feel" like you're going faster than you really are, which makes me believe that this is what others are feeling when the say this bike is the "fastest". It IS fast (in it's element), just not straight line, fire road, mach-speed fast.
The Jedi is more Ferrari and less monster truck. It's not for mobbing through terra-firma with the brain turned off, it needs to be guided accurately. It likes to dance over the rough, not plow through it.
That said, the rearward travel does work and there is less of a slowing effect from repeated rock hits than on other frames I've ridden. It just maintains it's speed in rocky or rooty conditions.
The bike exhibits no weird braking characteristics. No brake jack, but I don't feel the brake squat that's supposed to be there either. It just simply works. Suspension remains active while braking.
The Jedi will do roll-in drops with the best of them. I personally haven't dropped anything over 8' to tranny on this frame but it handles them well. I didn't buy it for it's ability to huck big drops though.
Jumps with vertical, well-defined take-offs (big doubles and tables) send this bike soaring into kamikaze, nose dive position almost every time. The bike is hell-bent of driving your face into the dirt as the rear end rebounds and kicks back at the lip. This effect is amplified if you try to boost or pump the tranny. I've tried running a lighter spring and even set the rebound on the Roco to full slow. This helps, but not as much as drastically changing technique. This involves remaining absolutely still on take off, a$$ hanging off the back just inches from the rear tire. This looks and feels dorky, but the bike will at least land level or give you the ability to put the nose down at will. The Jedi is just not fun on bigger tables/doubles. This might be remedied by switching to a shock with more damping like the Cane Creek Double Barrel. I've read that this shock wouldn't work well on the Jedi due to it needing a progressive shock, but I'm skeptical. I think it could use a more linear feel since the frame seems to ramp up strong near the end of it's travel. It actually feels like it has about 7" of travel. Not in a bad way, it's just not a "deep" travel feeling ride.
The stand over clearance on the Jedi is awesome, even on the large. No need to go down a size on this frame. In fact you might want to go up a size, run a direct mount stem, and gain a little extra wheelbase. This could extend the usability for smaller riders.
Large frame size. The frame will hit certain shocks upon compression. The preload collar on my Roco has several nicks in it. Kind of a bummer for close to $3000. There is also a less than stellar approach to gaining room for the top shock mount's head. Instead of a bend in the tube (hydroformed or otherwise) there's a simple factory "dent". I'm not sure if this compromises the strength of that tube, but it seems like a caveman approach for the price. It looks like it was just hit with a ball-peen hammer. I'm mostly just glad this tube is hidden by the CNC'd side plates and shock itself.
Well... currently at $3150, built in Taiwan out of straight gauge tubing, and not a cold-forged (and thus stronger) piece in sight. It seems a little steep. Especially given Canadian built Cove's and US built Intenses can be had for similar money. 4 chilis since there are better "values" to be had. Welcome to economy of scale.
I expect near perfection when spending at the top of the price range such as this. The minor niggles (factory shock clearance dent, ill fitting seatpost shim...seat post shim, bent axle) can be written off since they are minor and the seatpost issue has been fixed for 09. The frame gets an overall rating of 5 since it handles tight east coast style runs with aplomb. There are better choices for wide open "mammoth" style runs however.
Similar Products Used: Iron Horse Sunday, IH Kumicho, Demo, V10
Bike Setup: Marzocchi Roco WC w/ Ti spring. 2010 Boxxer Team.
from Phoenix, AZ, USA
Date Reviewed: February 4, 2009
Strengths: Light, Stiff, Bomb Proff, Great Geo. Fast, actually too fast. Beggs to be ridden very aggressive!!!
Weaknesses: None. At first I thouht the tire clearance would be an issue but it's not. It gets scrapes parts of the frame and links that you can't see anyway from rocks that get stuck on your tire.
This bike is just unreal. I can't believe how smooth and fast this bike is. I love the fact this bike is so light that I could just pick it up in the middle of some gnar rock section and change lines on a dime. I have never been able to pick lines well but just hang on, it plows through it with out losing any speed at all. Actually it picks up speed once you enter rock gardens. So having a good set of brakes is a must for this bike. The stand over is awesome it helps with the tight switchbacks and also in those tough situations. This bike just beggs to go fast and be ridden every weekend. Glad I got a understanding wife that lets me do so!!!!! If I come around with some extra cash I would buy a second frame just for the hell of cause that's how great it is.
Just a warning though it does boost you confidence cause it makes terrain and trails that you use to be afraid of seems too easy. You can quickly get in over your head with this bike. It's a pure bred race bike with the nimbleness of a super light FR bike!!!!
As for setup just like mentioned in the other reviews set up the rear softer than normal cause it works alot better! I am 200+ and run a 450lbs spring when I should be on a 500lbs+ spring. I am actually thinking of going down to 400lbs to even make it alot more plush an smooth over the nasty stuff but I figured I would wait cause I still want to know that I am riding on rocks/boulders.
Basically just sell your bike that you have now and get on this bike!!!!!!!
Strengths: This is a follow up to original post!!!!
FAST! Cornering, pedaling, control, stability.
Weaknesses: No front der. Id like to have it as a FR/AM rig as well.
Only reason is because its so light and rides flawless as well as pedals!
Hey its a DH/FR bike not an AM bike (youd have a hard time beleiving it wasnt meant for pedaling being as it pedals SWEET!
The bike never ceases to amaze me! I raced it last season (LOVEDIT), beat the guy in my class by 11 seconds and 9 seconds usually neck and neck but the bike pedalled and cornered so It was overall faster than my F1 was. Drops, hucks, Freerides, and dirt jumps flawless. It still amazes me how fast it comes out of corners yet saves you when you case a jump or blow through a nasty rock garden.
This bike has literally made me more aggressive and allowed me to push the limits, its hands down faster than the F1 and is more fun to ride.
I tested it with my different forks, 40rc2, 888 wcata, totem and 66 RC3. Out of all of them it handled the best and was the most fun with the 66 RC3. I will use the 888 when racing the gnar courses aside of that it will keep the 66 RC3 on it.
Similar Products Used: Karpiel Armageddon, Bullit, RM7, F1 (x2), Giant dhi, Big hit.
Bike Setup: Jedi, 66RC3, Roco WC air shock, middleburns, I9s, thomson stem, SDG Ibeam saddle/post, Twenty6 pedals, king ti headset, X0 drivetrain!
a Weekend Warrior
from Wells, Maine, USA
Date Reviewed: November 23, 2008
Strengths: Extra short chain stay, Rearward travel, light weight, bottomless feel just to highlight a few... Everything!!!
Weaknesses: hard to get into some carrying racks. i love the frame design but a lot of less committed ski resorts with bad chairlift designs have a hard time loading the bike. (easy fix, boycott crap lifts. if they want your business they need to commit!)
if you have never owned a rearward travel bike... don't get one! you will never want to go back to traditional frame design. i think im forever rearward now. the bike has the ability to whip through turns with it tight chain stay but when your mobbing over rock gardens the bike lengthens increasing stability and inspire confidence. it is easy to go fast on this bike. that is why i had to upgrade to code brakes.
choose your components carefully, i went with a more all around strength but heaver theme. i wish i went with more racing components to prep for handling speed better.
Similar Products Used: i have never used a product like it.
Bike Setup: marzocchi 888RC2x Fork, halo rims, avid code front brake and hays 9 rear, mrp, and maxxis tires.
a Weekend Warrior
Date Reviewed: June 24, 2008
Strengths: fast and smoode ,feels at home on any landscape any type of riding ,fr,dh
pedals very well!!!!
Weaknesses: none so far
this is the most amazing bike that i rode!!! light weight very fast.
the short chain stay makes than cut corners like a knife.
the reward travel gives a very unique feeling ,when you compress the suspension the bike pic up speed and energy .
landing from drops feels like butter the rear hooked to the ground no movement at all!!!
go for a soft spring and you will feel nothing below you as you burn rock gardens with full speed
padals very well without bobing at all!
last thing very important the service and giving of the brothers is outstanding with a lot of love for their product and alot of love for riding
buy and start ride for real
Similar Products Used: 2005 demo 9\2007 demo 8\2007 glory 8
Bike Setup: dhx 5 400 spring\fox 40 rc2 2008\hope 6 2008\mavic 729 on hadlys\saint 83 mm crank\truvativ 711 handelbar 1.5 rise\0 50mm blackspire stemm
from lindon, utah, U.S.
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2008
Strengths: Great cornering, soaks up EVERY THING! light weight, takes hard impacts amazingly, Feels bottom less.
The canfield brothers never cease to amaze me with their extremely well thought out and perfect bikes. The older canfield formula 1 was great but lacked just a little in cornering and weight. The canfield brothers not only fixed those problems but made those some of the bikes better qualities.
The bike seems to feel more and more stable the faster you go. This bike increases your over all confidence and ability of riding. I love coming into rock gardens with full speed knowing that my bike can handle what ever i throw at it.
Unlike the iron horse sunday this bike can also take drops and free ride amazingly well. I was able to go down to the red bull rampage course in virgin utah, and after only about 3 total hours of riding the bike i felt confident in doing some of the biggest drops of my riding career.
Bottom line this bike is well worth every cent you pay for it, and exceeded my every expectation.
Thought I'd share this stuff with you all now that it's release is official. This bike is awesome, sure to be a contender on the DH courses and give us some options away from the "big manufactures".
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