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Turner 1999 XCE Full Suspension Bike
Product DescriptionTurner XCE
User Reviews
Submitted by
DAn
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego Date Reviewed: May 9, 2001 Strengths: Great suspension design, flawless execution, build quality puts this bike in a class of its own. Weaknesses: Provokes jealousy, not for xc race day and weight weenies. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: San Juan, Noble Duration Product Used: 3 months Price Paid: $1500.00 Purchased At: mtbr.com Similar Products Used: Specialized FSR, Heckler, Turner RFX, Trek Y-Bike Bike Setup: ZI Alloy fork, XT drivetrain, 545 pedals, WTB Motoraptors, Ritchey Riser bar, kore stem, king headset, Mavic 217 rims, xt hubs.
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Dan
a Racer
from Orange County Date Reviewed: April 20, 2001 Strengths: This bike flat out Rocks!!! I've ridden Turner's for 4 year's now and I'm still blown away every time I go out. Last night, we went out for an after work jaunt at Whiting...You know...post work de-stress ride, so I haven't been in there since the rains, a few changes in the trail. The Turner soaks it up oh so good. When someone asks me to describe the difference between this and other bikes, I like to say, you can feel other bikes suspension work...But the Turner just makes the trail smoother. Rain ruts no problem. Quick transitions, no problem. Fastest bike out there. Funnest too. Customer for life am I. Weaknesses: It makes you want to ride.... Wife/work issues. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: Holy Jim Trabucco Loop Duration Product Used: More than 3 years Price Paid: $4000.00 Purchased At: Bicycles ETC Similar Products Used: GT LTS, Ellswort, Mako, Cannondale, Intense Bike Setup: X-Fly, XTR, Hayes, Truvativ, Maxxis, Thomson
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eric
a Cross Country Rider
from vail, colorado, usa Date Reviewed: April 7, 2001 Strengths: Impeccable attention to detail, built to be ridden harder than most can dream of, built by and designed by a legend, and I dare anyone to find another manufacturer on this website that has 5.00 ratings for all, that's right all, of their bikes. I have yet to hear or see anything in print that negatively criticizes this product or company in anyway shape or form. Period!! Weaknesses: ummmmmm...nada Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: all the ones I haven't done yet Duration Product Used: 1 Year Price Paid: $1500.00 Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Superlight....nice ride but no where near the rear end rigidity, GT hardtails(not similar though) Bike Setup: Marzocchi Z1 QR20 plus,Easton monkeylite riser, thomson seat post and stem, hayes disc, race face bb and crankset, xtr shift. and r.der., xt f.det, chris king r.hub and headset, mavic 317 f.and r.,selle trans am saddle, odi grips, conti. vert.pros,time atacs,and avid flak jackets
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James Carroll
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin TX Date Reviewed: March 21, 2001 Strengths: Durability, handling, balance, grease ports Weaknesses: Stock Fox shock works great but is very heavy, upgraded to an Air Vanilla and dropped 1lb. Frame is a hair heavy, but built to last Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: Greenbelt Duration Product Used: 1 Year Price Paid: $1800.00 Purchased At: Hammerhead Similar Products Used: See below...just about everything out there Bike Setup: Zokes Z4 100mm air, XTR, Avid cable front disk, Easton bar and seatpost, King...
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Jeff Bowers
a Cross Country Rider
from Chico,Ca. Date Reviewed: February 19, 2001 Strengths: The '01 XCE frame is the most refined 4-bar linkage frame available-bar none. Turner's frames are flawless in every aspect of their conception, construction and detail. Hilights include: Impeccable,intricate CNC machine work (the 1-piece bottom bracket junction, rear dropouts and other pieces),flawless welds, beefy headtube and seat tube gussets and overall excellent frame angles/geometry for either hard C.C.riding or slightly harder free riding and drops. You can choose either an air shock or coil. The XCE Frame is stone-cold reliable with hardly any maintenance involved and the pivots never loosen either.The rear end is perfectly strait and aligned, unlike some other 4-bar frames out there. Best Feature: TURNER'S CUSTOMER SERVICE IS EXCEPTIONAL-they treat you like family and go out of their way to meet your different individual needs. This company really loves bikes, and it shows in everything they do. Weaknesses: Most consider the frame expensive, but compared to what- mass produced bikes that flex and wear out prematurely? Also,you may have to wait 4-5 months to get one. However,all the benefits of this bike far out weigh the intial cost and wait.If you love to ride a reliable,awesome frame, then money really is no object. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: Anything in Downieville, Ca. Duration Product Used: 6 months Price Paid: $1000.00 Purchased At: Direct from Turner/traded in old frame Similar Products Used: Old early 90's Proflex frames, Mongoose Amp.,Specialized stuff,1995 Turner Burner (my previous frame before the '01 XCE I have now. Bike Setup: 15.5 2001 XCE frame(Frame 6.7 lbs.w/Fox air/lockout).For a 5'6" rider. Bike set-up bias towards hard riding/free-riding/fast decending.Parts: Manitou X-Vert Super 4" (Dave recomends this fork-plush,lightweight/works great(3.7 lbs).Grimeca disks,Mavic Crosslink Disc wheelset,Easton carbon bars,Raceface stem,King headset,Time pedals,Gripshift,XTR derail.,Flite seat, Michelin Hots
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John Tuck
a Cross Country Rider
from Arlington, Virginia, U.S.A. Date Reviewed: January 24, 2001 Strengths: Bar-none the finest trail bike ever designed. The geometry of this most refined of four-bar-linkage frames is perfect for both climbing and decending. Above all however is the relentless attention paid to detail. Each weld and linkage is perfectly hand-crafted wich attributes to the precision in wich the frame is constucted. Dave Turner has built the finest trail bike that is available to man. A countless number of companies have looked long and hard at his frame design in an attempt to acheive the same level of performace. However there remains no other suspension frame on the market that can not only stand the test of time but also afford it's rider the level of performance that this winner can. The XCE will continue to stand as the benchmark of full fuspension quality simply because the Turner team is dedicated to accomplishing just that. Absolutely no flex to be found. As the saying goes "Many will imitate, but none will duplicate." Weaknesses: None. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: Elizabeth's Furnace Duration Product Used: 1 Year Price Paid: $1500.00 Purchased At: Turner Bicycles Similar Products Used: Chuck FS, Kona Stab, Trek Fuel, Ellesworth Truth and Dare, Ventana, Giant XTC, Amp, Bike Setup: 2001 Marzocchi Z1 MCR, XTR: Shifters, ft. der., rr. der, gear tree, Avalon cranks, Grameca Disk Breaks, Chris King Headset, Titec Titanium Hell Bent, Thompson seat post, Hugi 240 Disk specific hubs, DT 14-15 gauge spokes, ATAC pedals, Ouri grips, Geax Tires
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Robert Caldwell
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: December 28, 2000 Strengths: This is the finest full suspension bicycle on the planet. It climbs like a goat and is a strong descender. The construction is flawless. This is the second Turner I've owned. In the four years I have ridden a Turner I have looked at the rest of industry with disbelief. They still have not caught up to David Turner's 1993 design even though they regularly rip off his concepts and ideas. Specialized may own the Horst Link (FSR) patent but David Turner made it work! Weaknesses: NONE. The changes that Turner made to the 2001 model are minor but significant. The rear end is stiffer, perfectly aligned and is fully active with out any biopacing or drive train suspension activation. The swing arm pivot moved up and forward slightly. This damped the rear end to pedalling a little more than before without compromising suspension activity. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: White Ranch Duration Product Used: More than 3 years Price Paid: $4000.00 Purchased At: Turner Bicycles Similar Products Used: Turner Burner O2, KHS FXT, FSR Bike Setup: 21 inch frame for 6'2", 180 lb rider. Set up with a bias toward climbing. RS SID 100, Fox Air Vanilla Float RC, XTR, King headset and hubs. Complete bike with pedals and bar ends weighs under 26 lbs with 4" of travel at both ends and is built to last!
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Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Cincinnati OH USA Date Reviewed: October 20, 2000 Strengths: Flawless construction, active suspension, ZERO flex at 215 pounds, easy maintainance with grease ports. Weaknesses: None whatsoever. An M1 will out-descend it and a hardtail will outrun it on a fireroad- but not by much in either case! Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Duration Product Used: 3 months Price Paid: $2000.00 Purchased At: MTBR.COM! Similar Products Used: Klein Mantra, Specialized FSR and XC Bike Setup: Fox TC, Z2 (going to try an XVert Super), XTR, Arch Supremes
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James Carroll
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin, TX Date Reviewed: September 26, 2000 Strengths: Great XC geometry for a 4" bike, best build quality you'll ever find, ...GREASE PORTS!!!!!, very consistent suspension Weaknesses: It ain't cheap, gotta wait for one Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: Greenbelt (not the main trail, the cool stuff) Duration Product Used: 6 months Price Paid: $1800.00 Purchased At: Hammerhead Bikes Similar Products Used: GT LTS, STS. McMahon Moonshot, SC Heckler...owned Just about everything else...ridden Bike Setup: Z1 Dropoff, Easton seat and riser bar, 9spd Splined XT w/XTR cassette, King/Mustang rear wheel, Spox front, Avid 50 brakes, swaped TC for Fox AV R.
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BOB AUSTIN
a Cross Country Rider
from COMOX, VANCOUVER ISLAND Date Reviewed: June 27, 2000 Strengths: Better than bike articles. Have had bike for 1 1/2 years..7 hours of single track riding a week. Superb handling, well-balanced, does-everything-well bike. Light and quite strong. No discernable flex or loss of power due to the suspension. Great climber and tracks well down steep descents. Greasable pivots last very well (since new) even with 7 months a year of wet weather. Climbing and descending excellent due to four-bar system. Absolutely superb service from Dave and Michelle Turner on warranty/service items. They sell replacement parts at cost to keep customers happy. Like bike so much, I bought one for my wife. Weaknesses: I suppose price is a factor but if you want one of the best, it is worth it. Cost reasonable if you deal iwth Turner directly. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Duration Product Used: 2 Years Similar Products Used: I have ridden Marins, Rocky Mountain, Kona and GT full susp. All are very good but most have small negatives...ie. weight, poorer braking due to suspension lock-up etc. Rocky Mountains seem closest. The Turners seem good in all areas. Bike Setup: Chris King hubs/headset. Mavic 517 ceramics, XTR Brakes. Race Face cranks and rings. XTR cassett. Riser bar and short stem. 747 peddles.
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todd driggers
a Cross Country Rider
from austin Date Reviewed: May 16, 2000 Strengths: great handling ,a frame that has low flex,and no squeeks,great service from turner bikes . Weaknesses: cost............. Bottom Line: Expand full review >>Favorite Trail: rocky hill Duration Product Used: 2 Years Similar Products Used: trek y bike ,scott vertigo ,pro flex Bike Setup: fox air shock ,sid sl front ,9 speed xtr ,king hubs/217
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