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Rick P
a Downhiller
from Denver, CODate Reviewed: July 26, 2004
Strengths: Tough, looks cool, plush with the right rear shock spring, Handles wellWeaknesses: Not the best peddler, but recent changes I've made has improved this. Swing arms has some side to side flex but nothing too bad.Bottom Line: This has been a great first DH bike for me. It's strong, fast and handles very well in all conditions. I've crashed it quite a few times and it's held up very well. It's not the best peddling DH bike out there but it makes up for it when you point it down. I'd reccomend this frame to anyone.
Favorite Trail: Keystone MTn. DH
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At: MTBR. com
Similar Products Used: First DH bike
Bike Setup: Super 8, Shiver DC, Fox RC, Double wides, Maxxis Minon front, Arrow Prime rear, Thompson stem, Azonic riser bars, Hayes disc breaks.
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dimitry k
a Weekend Warrior
from vancouverDate Reviewed: January 1, 2004
Strengths: You can see when i just bought this bike...i posted on here when i first got it pretty much. same holds as it did before....the swing arm is a bit flexy but nothing thats out of hand. it has ballbearing pivot the thing never can wear anything major out.(bb are easy replacment...never had to do it)Weaknesses: swingarm clearance.
The previous guy did something incredibly weird where it destroyed the front triangle and punctured his liver. So the frame has replacment front triangle and i can prove it because the swingarm and frame have different years in their serial numbers. (yeah the swing arm has a serial numberBottom Line: bike is great still runs a lot of people i used to ride with have changed bikes dozens of times while kept the same one....this thing is tougher than h#ll. I am abot 160-170 pounds and the frame is pretty small ...17" frame and iv done lots of weird and stupid things some that worked some that havnt 6 foot drops are just fine 8 foot and i needed a heavier spring on the fox rc. so its been through a bit of abuse but its come out in better shape then me. The frame will be going up for sale soon since i havnt rode on the bike since last december. Iv been on my skies more since then !!
Favorite Trail: somewhere on larch
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At: a person (look below)
Similar Products Used: lotso stuff look below at my older reviews
Bike Setup: hmm kind of like what i had before except now i have a shorty azonic stem with that fat ass bar that is doublewalled and dosnt fit normal stems (ya its specific). hays discs xt shifter pod truvativ dh cranks with chain guide old xtr rapid rise thomson elite seat post cheapo seat from redline
double wide on a hays dh hub in front with intense 2.7 and tioga 2.3 in rear on intense m30...(whatever its called) on xt disk rear hub with 36 spoke..(36 spoke rim and hub)
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david
a Weekend Warrior
from pinoleDate Reviewed: October 30, 2003
Strengths: solidWeaknesses: swing arm very thin, flex at rear wheel. ya gots ta push it hard though.Bottom Line: this frame is awsome as long as your not an agressive rider by todays standards, if ya are stay up to date, if not, worth looking into for riding trails that are rough like downiville/northstar type stuff.
Favorite Trail: solstice
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At: friend
Similar Products Used: nothin to brag about
Bike Setup: race face, boxxer black box, xt f & r, hays, fox vanila, galfer rotors & pads
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John Long
a Downhiller
from SF CA USADate Reviewed: July 7, 2003
Strengths: plush suspension, nice ride,Weaknesses: broke the head tube off in 3 days (but that wasn't the bikes fault)Bottom Line: great bike, i loved it. took it off a 8.5 footer to flat and didn't feel a thing. don't buy this bike if all you do is urban assault, it belongs on the hills.
Favorite Trail: northstar mountain
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At: guy at dirt jumping place
Similar Products Used: none yet
Bike Setup: frame, boxxer pro, hayes hydros, xtr kit
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Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Eugene, OregonDate Reviewed: January 27, 2003
Strengths: heck of a deal, nice components. bob is considerably low for a single pivot with the chain below the swingarm
Weaknesses: single pivot is decent but reliable. tire clearence could be a little better.Bottom Line: Get one, they are a great value for the price. quality comoponents.
Favorite Trail: Ridgeline
Duration Product Used: Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At: Personal
Similar Products Used: haro extreme x3, kona stinky, big hit comp
Bike Setup: Boxxer, System 2 chainnguide, xt shifter, xtr deralillure, Mavic 517 rims (i think) Hayes hydraulic, fox vanilla rc
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Randy
a Downhiller
from Jackson, CA USADate Reviewed: December 29, 2002
Strengths: The frame is BULLET PROOF. All the welds, joints and the pivot are amazingly burly. The 7.75" of rear travel are extremely plush and soak up every hit. Weighs pretty light considering the frame size and magnitude. And since it is a SANTA CRUZ there is virtually no maintainence (other than the normal stuff) needed.Weaknesses: a tad bit of flex in the rear swingarm and a little narrow for anything larger than a 2.4" tire. Not able to run an 8" rear rotar without upgrading to the 2000 series dropouts/brake bracket.Bottom Line: Whether you are a begining downhiller or advanced on a tight budget, this is deffinately a bread winner. Reasonabely light weight, easy to work on and upgrade, fast and PLENTY of plush travel.
Favorite Trail: "Boondocks" Northstar at Tahoe
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At: Private Party
Similar Products Used: SANTA CRUZ V-10, Bullit, INTENSE M-1
Bike Setup: Marzocchi Super T Pro, Tru Vativ Husslefelt DH cranks, bash gaurd and chain guide, Azonic Shubby bars, Shimano XT rear deraillure and rear shifter, Sun MAG 30 wheels with WTB 2.4" Moto-raptor tires.
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dimitry K
a Weekend Warrior
from vancouverWADate Reviewed: December 14, 2002
Strengths: its almost end of 2002 and i bout it in 2000 used.Weaknesses: uhm...i cant kill it yet. striped bolts on the brace in the back mainly my fault and previous owners !! if your local shop has a weird trueing stand your gonna need to dish your wheels unless you like you swingarm being cut in half slowlyBottom Line: tough and cheap now they last forever if your 160-170 pound rider . cant say the same for a rm6 deserves its flaming chilis . old and proven
Favorite Trail: if it has jumps i guess and its fast
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At: marketplace
Similar Products Used: norco team dh
prototype san andreas with 9 inches w/link suspension (weird bugger)orange 8(expensive but nice),rm 6, giant team dh(nice bike).special ed team dh
Bike Setup: plasmas got killed doing dirt jumps so switch to xt...and i like it more with my old and worn out xtr rapid rise. this bike will behave horrible if your front fork is worn out
my manitou carbon is on its last legs now
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dimitry k
a Weekend Warrior
from vancouver WADate Reviewed: June 15, 2002
Strengths: well its alive and kicking and it has successfully outlived a fellow biker freinds rm6 and he payed more for the frame poor guyWeaknesses: stupid mud and tire clearenceBottom Line: its a damn sweet bike if u get it for 800 bux with a front replacement triangle.not much to say its a real killer bike....people keep confusing for the bullit now cuzz most of them havent seen this old bruiser and alwase wonder how i got that swingarm on it ...lol
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At: a person
Similar Products Used: specialed dh bike giant downhill team bike and azonic something dh bike and a few other buggers
Bike Setup: super 8 with extra stuff on it
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Mike
a Downhiller
from asdfaDate Reviewed: July 16, 2001
Strengths: I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD HELP ME OUT...I HAVE EITHER A 98 OR A 99 SUPER 8 AND IT HAS STARTED TO MAKE MANY "CREAKING" AND "SNAPPING" NOISES...HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? PLEASE EMAIL ME!! THANKSWeaknesses: I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD HELP ME OUT...I HAVE EITHER A 98 OR A 99 SUPER 8 AND IT HAS STARTED TO MAKE MANY "CREAKING" AND "SNAPPING" NOISES...HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? PLEASE EMAIL ME!! THANKSBottom Line: I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD HELP ME OUT...I HAVE EITHER A 98 OR A 99 SUPER 8 AND IT HAS STARTED TO MAKE MANY "CREAKING" AND "SNAPPING" NOISES...HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? PLEASE EMAIL ME!! THANKS
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Price Paid:
$1.00
Similar Products Used: I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD HELP ME OUT...I HAVE EITHER A 98 OR A 99 SUPER 8 AND IT HAS STARTED TO MAKE MANY "CREAKING" AND "SNAPPING" NOISES...HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? PLEASE EMAIL ME!! THANKS
Bike Setup: I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE COULD HELP ME OUT...I HAVE EITHER A 98 OR A 99 SUPER 8 AND IT HAS STARTED TO MAKE MANY "CREAKING" AND "SNAPPING" NOISES...HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? PLEASE EMAIL ME!! THANKS
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J Lootavitz
a Weekend Warrior
from phoenixDate Reviewed: July 15, 2001
Strengths: Way strong swingarm, Awesome, plush travel with Romic T2 shock, burly frame and extra gussets, front derailer friendlyWeaknesses: can't put a huge tire on the rearBottom Line: This bike is bullet proof, low maint. Built with the parts listed above, this bike weighs about 43lbs. I can side all the same trails as the mid 20lb guys, and have a lot more fun coming down!The nice thing about the older Super-8 is that it comes with a front derailer cable mount. I highly recommend an older Super-8 to anybody looking to build a sweet freeride bike.
Favorite Trail: Mt Elden
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$2300.00
Purchased At: MTBR
Similar Products Used: Uzzi DH, Shockwave, M1
Bike Setup: White Bro.s DH-2, Romic T2 rear shock, Hayes, Race face cranks, xt front & rear der. Azonic bars, Thompson lay back post
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Dimitry K
a Weekend Warrior
from vancouver WADate Reviewed: April 2, 2001
Strengths: strong
big swingarm ballbearings remove any need to for servicing except maybe checkups once every month
Warranty is simple i think swingarm is a free replacement (correct me if im wrong)Weaknesses: limited mud clearance (unless u move brace forward and leave dropouts in the farthest position , only works if u have disc brakes)
nothing else that i find wrongBottom Line: this bike has changed alot since i last reviewed it. I upgraded it to rear hayes also got it a new rear wheel and overall just some parts changed about like a plasma shifter with xtr rear the truvative cranks...mostly a new drivetrain...the xvert carbon works pretty well...not as good as the new manitous which seem to have better bushings...i did upgrade the fork to tpc+ ...overall a kickass bike will last me a for a long time to come.
Favorite Trail: secret !
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At: mtbr marketplace
Similar Products Used: special ed dh bike , rm 6 k2 animal haro something
oh yeah the new shwin straight 6 or 6 bangers or wtf
Bike Setup: xvert carbon hayes front and rear that big fatass hayes hub front thomson seatpost truvative dh cranks and guide
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Derek
a Downhiller
from FresnoDate Reviewed: March 2, 2001
Strengths: -Burly frame
-Nice on large drops
-Excellent lateral stiffness
-Seems to keep the wheel on the ground wellWeaknesses: -Not all that plush
-Noisy (could be the brakes though)Bottom Line: The bike feels very comfortable and handles pretty good. Nice in corners and confidence inspiring at speed. Weight isn't too bad. The suspension isn't all that plush but I might just need a softer spring. It keeps the wheel on the ground well but doesn't have a super comfy ride like most linkage bikes. Excellent on big drops. Pedals alot better than I expected. Overall a pretty good bike.
Favorite Trail: 007
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: trade
Similar Products Used: DBR, Outland, Giant DH
Bike Setup: White Bros. UD150 (soon to be WB DH3) Magura gustav brakes, Race Face cranks, IRC Kujo Tires...
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Donny Vaillancourt
a Downhiller
from Cupertino,CADate Reviewed: February 22, 2001
Strengths: everythingWeaknesses: Rear Shock to bouncyBottom Line: This bike is crazy! besides the rear suspension catapults, this bike is a monster, it destroys everythin gin its path and looks great as you cross the finish line! If you look for a great deal on a DH bike i recommend the Super 8. I also use the super 8 for gaps, stairs, and drop offs and it handles it handles great!
Favorite Trail: Red Rock
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At: Stans Bikes
Similar Products Used: Santa Cruz Bullit
Bike Setup: Downhill kit from santa cruz
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Braindamage Steve
a Downhiller
from Kamloops(birth place of freeriding)Date Reviewed: February 8, 2001
Strengths: Industructible!adjustable!slack head angle yet agile steering!light!rolls fast!Supa plush!easy to manual!Weaknesses: Not jumpable!hard to climb on.seat hits tire when bottomed with a 26" wheel.......thats it!Bottom Line: Probbly the sweetest custom ride u can build....bottom line!It is indestructable and supa plush fast and light.9(rare find for Dh bikes) u can ride this thing urban,trail,freeride, Dh,dropping,and if your good u can try and jump it!this bike will take 8 footers to flat landing repeatedly and land lightly everytime!SWEET RIDE!it deserves 6 outta 5 flammin chilis!(great learning bike;solves mistakes that can kill you!)
Favorite Trail: King of the spill
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$7500.00
Purchased At: private sale
Similar Products Used: brodie 8 ball.marin pro custom Dh. giant atx team dh(99 and 2000).rockey mountain RM6.Intense m1.etc.
Bike Setup: 01 hanebrink LT-9 fork.(huge travel)24"rear wheel.Short cokpit(65mm stem)really set back
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tommy
a Racer
from Bellingham WA, USADate Reviewed: January 6, 2001
Strengths: RAD, RAD, RAD. I cannot get enough of this bike. I have never owned a full suspension bike before and this has got to be the nicest I have ever ridden.
Super plush ride and very, very sturdy construction.Weaknesses: A bit on the VERY HEAVY side. Tips the scale at 34 lbs.
Also, pedals a little slowly. It seems to absorb A LOT of pedal power.
Bottom Line: So awesome. Landing six-footers is like rolling off a curb. I flew off a four foot drop totally off balance at about seven or eight degrees lean and landed easily (only smacked my knuckle on the brake lever)--try that next weekend! Unbelievable plushness and riding comfort. Very expenxive though, for not very versatile abilities. Impossible to ride uphill (don't even attempt to stand up and pedal) and is not easily lifted up ANYTHING.
Low maintenance so far. The Shiver fork is awesome too, but obviously didn't come with the frame.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$2500.00
Purchased At: pro-deal, shop
Similar Products Used: giant ds-1, klein mantra pro, other xc's too.
Bike Setup: Marzocchi shiver front triple-clamp, Hayes hydraulic discs, XTR rear der. and shifter, race face 110 cranks, etc.
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