Submitted by
sluderp
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle,WA,USA Date Reviewed: October 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Tiger Mountain Trails
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$999.00
Purchased At:
Mikes Bikes Chas,SC
Strengths:
Bike still rocks after 8 years of riding!! I looked at Intense,Santa Cruz,etc and read all the hype (VPP) but cant part with my Mantra. No mechanical problems ever.
Weaknesses:
There are alot of lighter bikes out there now. Bike is considered heavy today. Need to upgrade components to get the weight down.
Similar Products Used:
None.No reason to use a different product.
Bike Setup:
upgraded components: Fox forx RLT,Mavic crosstrail wheelset,XT cranks,SLX shifters,XT V brakes(no disc available anymore),Kenda tires.
Bottom Line:
The bike is a classic and still performs at the level of new bikes in it's class with some upgrades. Definetly not a big hit insane downhill bike. Great epic,all mountain bike.
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Submitted by
Pete
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: August 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Tiger Mountain trails
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$999.00
Purchased At:
Mikes Bikes, Chas, SC
Strengths:
Very responsive bike, Great for technical trails, reliable performance
Weaknesses:
Handlebars sit a bit low for a large rider (6"3", 215lbs, Large frame) such as myself making it less forgiving riding off drop-offs. Slight bobbing from rear shock.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
All currently stock. Rishi Race Black/Red paint.
Bottom Line:
Overall great bike. I am thinking of upgrading the rear shock to the new 5th element(best shock on the market) to decrease bobbing. I have considered upgrading to the Palomino but am upgrading the components of my Mantra instead.
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Submitted by
Joe
a Weekend Warrior
from Atlanta, Georgia USA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Blankets Creek / Yellow River (CLoop)
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Free Flite Bicycles
Strengths:
Great feel for the trail...climbs as fast as it descends. I haven't experienced the 'weak' frame problems like the ~200 pounders (I'm not far behind at ~180), but I think it's all relative to how you ride. I've only bent 1 hanger, so overall I've been VERY pleased! Oh yeah, you like like a bada$$ riding it too!
Weaknesses:
Components suck bigtime...ESPECIALLY the wheelset. Slap some stronger rims with Smoke/Dart kevlars and you're flyin'. The bontrager clipless pedals are a joke too...grab some egg beaters!
Smoke/Dart/Sun RhinoLite rims w/XT Disc hubs Avid CPS Disc brakes. Removed almost all of the Bontrager junk (except the crankset, but it's time is nigh!) and replaced them with quality parts. Flite Titanium seat and cordless TARGA cyclometer.
Bottom Line:
It's the 300Z of mountain bikes-I feel like I'm in my own little club with my kick-butt bike tearin' up the trail (figuratively, of course).
If you love to ride (and I mean on trails, not on the sidewalk)...grab one...grab two even. I'm never letting go of mine, so good luck finding one! If you're not that serious, you may find that you can only ride for a little while before your lower back starts screaming-it's not a beach cruiser!
Advice - I went for the Black/Red mantra b/c it's a much better paint job than that sissy blue and white comp...but...TAKE THE BONTRAGER JUNK OFF!
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Submitted by
James
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland, OR, USA Date Reviewed: May 28, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Forest Park (West Hills of Portland)
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
River City Bikes, Portland, OR
Strengths:
Good rear suspension travel, great uphill rider, excellent looking bike, light weight, setup for disc brake upgrades in the future.
Weaknesses:
Some average components but my components have worked flawlessly to date. I found the handle bars too low and away causing me to have to bend over too far which was strenuous on the back for long trips but probably fine for those serious riders. I changed the stem for one with a steeper angle bringing the bar closer and higher up - A riser bar would also help cure this. My rear air shock is starting to make some "squishy" noises but I assume this due to wear - only noticeable when it really compresses
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale, Gary Fisher, Trek
Bike Setup:
Fully stock except for different stem with steeper angle. XL frame size.
Bottom Line:
I can from a no-suspension bike (Norco Bigfoot) to this and there is absolutely no comparison. The Mantra is much lighter than my old bike and has full suspension! I find it much easier riding up hill on this bike vs. my old one and I can absolutely fly on fast downhill sections that would loosen my fillings on my old bike - I look forward to these trails now vs. hanging on for dear life trying to keep up. I tried out several bikes before purchasing the Mantra but I chose this one due to its rear suspension feel (great going uphill and lots of travel for fast downhills that are bumpy). I also think this bike is better suited for large folks like myself (~200 lbs). I also love the simple looks of this bike and it get lots of compliments on the trail. If you are lucky enough to find a used one of these I would definitely recommend it if it is still in good condition.
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Submitted by
Patrick
a Weekend Warrior
from NC, USA Date Reviewed: May 13, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Westwood Park
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
built it myself
Strengths:
Lots of strengths - 1. Great Frame, one of the best designed and best built ever, 2. Has Great Travel, 5-6 inches, 3. Gets killer looks on the trail, 4. If built right it will work like a dream, 5. No other product like it, 6. Performs like a lightweight xc or a killer big travel freeride.
Weaknesses:
1. Shifting, due to the single pivot design - when the frame shock compresses it throws the shifting off drastically (ghost shifting), this becomes a real pain in the ass and makes me want to ride my hardtail, this is the only problem i have discovered but it really sucks, Mountain Bike Magazine said to lenghthen the rear cable and housing that attaches to the rear derailleur, i have tryed this and it didn't work for me, i need help - if you know how to fix please e-mail me
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Team Hardtail Trek 8900 - Bad Ass Hardtail
Bike Setup:
Psylo Race, Drivetrain full xt except for xtr rear derailleur, Hayes Hydraulic Disc Brakes, Awesome Setup
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike, wouldn't trade it for the world, it is a thing of beauty, but it is nice to have a spare bike due to the shifting problem, i would definitly recommend buying one of these if you can find one, it is probably one of the best if not the best full-suspension frames made thus far in the innovation of f.s. frames
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Submitted by
Craig
a Racer
from Yorktown, VA Date Reviewed: April 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
The Zipper in Spokane Washington
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
I work at a bike shop
Strengths:
This is the best climbing full suspension bike on the market. All components work well together, but they are a little cheap if you are forced to pay the full price
Weaknesses:
none. If anything maybe the level of the components, but they still work well.
Similar Products Used:
Trek Fuel, Trek Stp, Cannondale Raven, Schwinn Homegrown Pro
Bike Setup:
Full XTR, Fox Float fork with lockout, Fox Float Rl rear shock with lockout,
Bottom Line:
If you can still find one of these bikes buy it!!! This is one of the fastest and most comfortable bikes you can buy. I have ridden a lot of different fully suspended bikes and none of the climb as well as the Mantra. Even though I have the lockout on my rear shock you really don't need it. I rarely use it and I race every weekend. This bike is perfect for ahyone who loves a good fast ride, but might be a little too much for a beginner. 5 Flaming turds for this bike.
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Submitted by
Boudreaux
a Weekend Warrior
from North Carolina, USA Date Reviewed: April 8, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Anything with dirt, climbs and descents
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$670.00
Purchased At:
Private Sale
Strengths:
Totally Awesome Bike!!!! Looks great, with this bike you will get all kinds of looks on the trail. It is kind of rare and hard to find one of these beasts. It has the weight and speed of a cross-country bike with the strength and travel of a free-ride setup.
Weaknesses:
Components. I didn't like the LX components. Didn't like the stock wheels or tires. None really though, great bike.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Team Saeco Hardtail - Great Bike
Bike Setup:
Complete Custom Setup - Cost an extra $1500, but well worth it for this bad ass frame. Shifters - Shimano XT Rapidfire Front Derailleur - Shimano LX Rear Derailleur - Shimano XTR Rapidrise - Awesome Crankset - Shimano XT Hollowtech, Octalink - Lighter than XTR Cassette - Shimano XT - Better than XTR due to gearing Brake Levers - Shimano XT Cables - Shifters - Gore-Tex/Fibre Optic Brakes - Gore-Tex Handlebar - Titec Hellbent Stem - Azonic Brakes - Shimano Deore Mechanical Disc - Heavy, Not very good but cheap for the money and who needs brakes anyway Pedals - Time Atac Carbon Rims - Mavic Tubeless - Awesome Hubs - Formula Disc Tires - Hutchinson Pythons
Bottom Line:
Totally Awesome Bike, wouldn't trade or sell for the world. Completely awesome if you can get past the LX components and wheel/tire combo. If you can find one buy it fast. Its totally worth every penny.
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Submitted by
Hansen Len
a Racer
from Seattle, Wa. Date Reviewed: September 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Single track in the woods
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
Mt. Lake cycle
Strengths:
The bike is very responsive, quick to negotiate the roots, rocks, holes, and misc. when you are all out. The travel in the suspension makes for a great ride.
Weaknesses:
The rear triangle broke at the rear axle. Klien fixed it, but it took them 6 weeks to respond. The angle of the front fork is quite verticle, which gives it the quick response, this combined with the Manitou fork makes the bike very quick to pull the rear wheel into the air when going over logs, dropping into holes, or steep decents. I broke a pedal within 30 days of owning the bike,(they replace it), The rear derailer hanger bends very easily and I need to keep a stock pile of hangers, due to the lead time of a couple of weeks to get a new one.
Similar Products Used:
I owned and rode a Klien Attitude hard tail for 6 years that I loved. (Kind of hard on the tail bone.)
Bike Setup:
I changed to a Dart front tire, and a Smoke rear tire to clear the mud. Put Yeti grips, bar ends and Shimono pedals.
Bottom Line:
I ride hard, I weight 200 lbs. I like the bike. The bike is aggressively responsive and is not designed for the casual rider. A taller front fork would be a benefit to the geometry.
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Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Montana Date Reviewed: September 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Zimmerman Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Spoke Shop
Strengths:
Agile responsive climber,Good looks,plush ride.Rear has plenty of travel.Very strong frame,can take my 240 lb with ease.
Weaknesses:
Steep descents can be very very scary till you get used to it.Stock revolt tires lack traction.Front derailuer needs lots of adjustments.
Similar Products Used:
Trek 800,Trek Y3
Bike Setup:
stock except for Time atac pedals,Hayes hydro disc,Mavic223 disc rims,Panaracer Fire XC Pro tires,Bontrager FS 2000 Saddle,XL frame,bar ends
Bottom Line:
This is my second FS bike the last one being an entry level bike.There is a definite learning curve with this bike and unless you spend some time on it , a test drive wont tell you crap about it.Getting over the steep head angle takes time and a few endos.But when you get dialed into the ride its unbelievable. It will take you through tecnical rocky sections with ease, the rear stays in contact with the ground always .Making climbing super easy. Its as if it wants to climb all by itself. Being a Clyde I have set this bike up with the Stiffest spring in the Manitou SX forks and run the Fox R at 350 lb's. The Hayes give excellant stopping power. I love this bike and it has improved my riding skills in technical areas and descents. And contrary to what one guy said this bike is NOT a Trek. It is 100% KLein,with all the Klein quality you expect. Sadly you will only get this bike used in the future as its design has been dropped ,not because of bad geometry but because of competing popular designs.Hence the Adept. Which may be my next bike, as I am sold on Klein.Yes you pay more for the name, but the quality is unmatched. This is not a DH bike,more like of an all around bike. Great for the long rides.
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Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Angeles Date Reviewed: August 31, 2001
Favorite Trail:
fast/downhill ones
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$940.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Lite weight for a xc full suspension bike, built quality and unique design.
Weaknesses:
Racing downhill... trees up ahead, turning to avoid unnecessary confrontation, soft breaking applied, rear tire went sliding but not locked up, turned a little more, both tires not respond to the direction I was pointing, found myself traveling sideways for about 3 seconds then... "BAM!"
CONCLUSION: The stock tires ((F) Bontrager Super-X 49/48 & (R) Bontrager Super-X 47/46) are fast but has absolutely no grip, I might as well use slicks.
Bike Setup:
Change: tires (IRC Mythos XC) Addition: bar ends (Bontrager)
Bottom Line:
Its been a year now, I still love my Mantra. I looked around and still have not found a bike that's more appealing to me (the Trek STP soft-tails came in close, I know, I know, its a totally different ride). Dispite its lite weight, I continued my research on better parts with less weight. As a result, I decided to hold off on any purchases, wear the stock components down a little more, and change all the components to xtr (or what ever Shimano has to surprise us in the next year or two) at a later date.
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Submitted by
Haze
a Cross Country Rider
from A2, Mi. USA Date Reviewed: July 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
any in s.e. mi.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
chelsea bike & sports
Strengths:
Strong frame. lightweight, and comes in an XL frame
Weaknesses:
none, but cheaper bikes will copy klein's designs
Similar Products Used:
this is my 2nd bike..I upgraded from a Trek 4500 which I outgrew in about 1.5 months, I knew I wanted a FS bike and happened to come across one in a local store. the frame design is distinctive, and more peole stare at this bike..:)
Bike Setup:
stock for now, I pumped up the rear shock and dialed up the pre-load on the manitou sx fork to almost max to diminish any bob on long climbs. I'll upgrade components & wheels next year and keep rollin'...it works great on trails or concrete. much more comfortable than my hardtail. '01 mantras paint scheme looks lame.
Bottom Line:
not an entry level bike, but it suits my needs just perfectly, I found a '99 model brand new but has a few scratches on it, store owner claimed it was shipped from klein that way, which I find damn hard to believe...but if the price was right, I'd buy it, upgrade the components and keep my GF off of it!
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Submitted by
Justin
a Cross Country Rider
from Nashua, NH, USA Date Reviewed: July 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Catamount Hill, Bear Brook State Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
-Smooth and and responsive on flat single track -Climbs great as long as you are seated in the saddle -Solid spec of components for the money -Not too much pedal bob while climbing
Weaknesses:
-Bobs alot on downhill with stock Fox Float and Manitou SX -Semi-Slick tires do not hold well at all while cornering or climbing -Sucks at climbing when you stand up on the bike, you get pedal bob like theres no tommorrow -Bontrager RE-1 pedals, use Time ATAC -You pay more for the Klein name and frame and thus recieve lower end components than on a comparably priced bike.
Similar Products Used:
First real FS
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
An extremely smooth ride that climbs great(while in the seat) and with a suspension design that eliminates most of the bob that plagues other FS designs.
I would suggest paying the extra money for the comp version to get the higher end components, this allows you to control dampening on the suspension and gives you a smoother lighter weight drivetrain.
Change out the tires and the pedals and this is a great comfortable agile ride. Too bad Klein discontinued this line in favor of the Adept series. I suspect they will be back next year.
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Submitted by
Bryan
a Cross Country Rider
from Tunkhannock, Pa Date Reviewed: June 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Duke & Nick's Hairscramble
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At:
B&B Bike, Forty Fort, Pa
Strengths:
Frame design, weight, looks. As most said, Climbs awesome. Almost, if not better than my old, quality hardtail(during climbing).
Weaknesses:
A riser bar would be a plus.
Similar Products Used:
2001 Cannondale Jeckll 500, 2001 Trek fuel 90, 2001 Jamis dakar comp. Scott Unitrack St(my old hardtail).
Bike Setup:
Large frame.Bontrager Race modified riser bars and ends. tooth fairy chainring guard. The rest is OEM.
Bottom Line:
This bike is awesome. I tested several FS bikes. This was by far the best for the money.(the Jamis a close 2nd) It's light. The frame design is pretty simple and it rides like a hardtail if you want it to (by airing up the rear shock). In my opinion a riser bar helps alot. The stock bar makes me feel like endoing over the bars. The components are run of the mill, but work great. I had to install a stiffer elastomer in the front fork because of my weight. Overall I am very pleased. This bike does it all for me from the technical to the pavement. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go FS, but this bike made the decision for me. Great bike.
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Submitted by
Chad
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle Date Reviewed: April 23, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Markee's in Kennewick, WA
Strengths:
Plush ride, excellent climber, smooth drivetrain. Looks soo sweet. You'll sacrifice the body to save the bike.
Weaknesses:
Pedals were hard to get the right hold vs release. Swapped with old Richey's I was use to. Either I couldn't get out of them or would "bounce" out of them going over large log ramps. Probably just needed to be "broke in."
Bike Setup:
Stock except pedals. Medium frame and I'm 73" tall.
Bottom Line:
I switched from a 99 Rockhopper FS. No comparison, I climb better, negotiate obstacles with eaze, and my chode isn't sore afterwards. I had no problems transitioning from my hardtail to this bike. I don't want to stop riding but my cold winter muscles start screaming at me after 3 hours. FYI this was the last base Mantra in OR, ID and WA. I called all but about 4 shops listed on Klien's site. Grab one quick if want a new one. A few comps floating around though. Last years inventory is almost dry. Paying 1K new made this a steal.
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Submitted by
Al
a Weekend Warrior
from Commerce, MI, USA Date Reviewed: April 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Highland Rec. Area
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
Bike USA
Strengths:
Best looking bike on the market, Fit & finish is perfect, great rear suspension.
Weaknesses:
I might try a riser bar, it does seem a little endo-prone on steep downhills
Similar Products Used:
cannondale jeckle, schwinn rocket 88, trek fuel
Bike Setup:
all stock, Manitou, Bontrager, XT Etc.
Bottom Line:
I love this bike. It has made me a much better rider. The rear suspension has this ability to only be there when you need it, and never bobs on the flats. It is very light and agile - the handling is almost instinctive, it's a hell of a step up from my costco Mongoose. I guess this model is getting hard to come by, so snap one up if you can, as the 2001 model is butt ugly.
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Submitted by
johnny
a Cross Country Rider
from minneapolis,MN,55406 Date Reviewed: April 10, 2001
Favorite Trail:
anything I can ride to
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Purchased At:
freewheelbikes
Strengths:
Stock this thing kicks the CRAP out of any other FS I rode. I have been riding a rigid single for 4-5 yrs. as my main ride, but ride anything/everything I can get my hands on. I spent quite alot of time on research, but it all came down to the ride. I had no intention of buying a Klein, in fact while on the test ride I thought, WHAT AM I DOING? Anyway, needless to say it's awesome, tracks like a real mofo, climbs like a,(dare I say it again?) freakin' GOAT, did I mention it looks sweet? DOPE bike for those who have tried and HATED FS.
Weaknesses:
Rattlely rear pivot, big deal. Crappy ICON junk, big deal. overall great spec, easily replaced crap.
Super nice bike with great spec for the $. NO complaints here.
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Submitted by
aVF
a Cross Country Rider
from Southeast Texas Date Reviewed: February 26, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Lightweight after modifications Climbs like a freakin goat on crack Plush ride Frame design
Weaknesses:
"Plate style" front derailleur is not readily available Bike didn't come with a shock pump
Bike Setup:
2000 Klein Mantra of course... Controls: Chris King headset, RaceFace SYStem, Answer Hyperlite bar, Odi lockjaw grips, Thomson seatpost, Selle Italia Turbomatic 3 seat, Avid SD 7 levers, Avid SD Mag brakes Suspension: Marzocchi Z2 Atom 80 fork, Fox Float rear shock Drivetrain: XT crankset, XT BB, LX front derailleur, XTR rear derailleur, XT chain, Shimano 646 pedals, Rolf Urraco wheelset, Panaracer Fire XC Pros, Maxxis Flyweight tubes Current weight is 25 pounds.
Bottom Line:
I spent a load of money on this bike knowing that I could of bought a Trek 9.9. Who cares!! This bike is nice even with the factory selection of components. Once set up, the bike is very plush on the trail but solid enough to climb. Being a clyde and punishing the bike, it still holds up. I recommend this bike if you can still get it.
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Submitted by
Matt Goebel
a Cross Country Rider
from Fairfax, CA, USA Date Reviewed: February 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
tamarancho
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Sunshine Bike Center
Strengths:
Great climber! doesent take any energy away from the petaling. LIGHT
Weaknesses:
The hinges for the rear suspension sometimes hit your knees.
Bike Setup:
Mrazocchhi Z.2 in front, AD-10 in rear, white industries hubs, almost full xtr.
Bottom Line:
It's a great bike for climbing, but sometimes on the downstroke the hinges for the rear suspension hit your knees. I bought it used for $1250, and the previous owner had upgraded almost all the components. You might want to put a riser bar on it, but other than that it's almost perfect.
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Submitted by
nick
a Cross Country Rider
from the hill Date Reviewed: February 12, 2001
Favorite Trail:
the ones that are still available
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
used with only a few miles on it
Strengths:
The fact that I've wanted one for quite a long time and now I own it.
Weaknesses:
just bought it? so none yet
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale CAAD3, (2) Trek Y-11's
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
I have always wanted a Mantra, now that I have bought it I can't wait to get it. 02/14/00 (its my valentines day present to myself!!) I've read all the reviews and convinced this is the perfect bike for the riding I do. My first Y-11 was stolen 10 days after I got it :( I bought the second Y-11 (frame only) and had it for less than 48 hours when I found the MANTRA and sold the Trek frame. I am hoping that some seasoned riders of this awesome bike will EMAIL me with some riding and setting up tips. I would really appreciate it A LOT!
P.S. I don't deserve to rate this bike yet, but reading all of the reviews, good and bad. I think its fair to say this machine will accomplish what I want it to do. The value rating has to be high since I just saw the same exact bike in the LBS for $1600. Overall rating has to be high or I wouldn't of just spend a G note on it. :) please email me any riding/suspension/tricks tips, thanks in advance!!
NAI
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Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Edmonton, AB, CA Date Reviewed: January 28, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Overlander
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Redbike Edmonton
Strengths:
There are lots of strengths: -KILLER looks -Easily upgradeable -Huge rear travel (7 inches) -Nice Fork (80mm Manitou SX '00) -Climbs as well as, or better than a hardtail (even without rear lockout) -Strong descender (Others might want to upgrade to a riser bar-I did. It's a personal preference thing) -Stable at almost any speed (I've never been able to hit more than 70Km/h (45Mp/h) on the trail -Light as hell (27 pounds/12.3Kg's)
Weaknesses:
-The treads (bontrager Super-X) don't grab very well -The Manitou SX holds up great until the drop-offs exceed 5-6 feet
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Jekyll 3000, Schwinn S-10 (The OLD carbon fiber frame w/huge and heavy rear swingarm)
Bike Setup:
Stock, except for Avid Mechanical Disc Brakes, Sun Rhyno Lite XL wheels w/XT hubs, a TITEC hellbent riser bar, and a Marzocchi Z.1
Bottom Line:
The Mantra is a exceptional deal for what you pay (est. $1500 US, $2400 CAN)Anyone who is new to full suspension bikes, is looking for a light XC bike, or wants a long travel trials/freeride bike, this is THE bike to buy. Forget those ugly, outdated Specialized Enduro's and things like that. They perform nowhere close to the Mantra. For freeride or trials, I would recommend upgrading the fork to a stiffer Marzocchi design. Don't waste your money on a Psylo- the Mantra deserves better than that.
Who should really buy this bike? Well, really, anyone can buy this bike(duh), but those who are considering it must face the facts. This bike is not intended to be raced downhill, and don't even think of putting a triple or double clamp fork on it. Doing this will put extra stress on the frame, and although it looks beefy and strong, it is not strong enough for DH. A double/triple clamp fork will not only destroy the warranty on the frame(lifetime), but it may also put too much stress on the headtube and cause it to crack. To sum all of the above up in a few simple words - BUY THIS BIKE! IT IS AMAZING!
Just my two cents. Later.
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Submitted by
Brandon Mikkelsen
a Cross Country Rider
from Layton, UT, U.S.A Date Reviewed: December 23, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Wheeler creek trail, or anything Moab!
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Guthrie Bike in Salt Lake City
Strengths:
Light weight, Killer looks And good parts for the $$$.
Weaknesses:
Stock slick tires lick the nuts.
Similar Products Used:
Almost bought a GT I-drive. But sale price on Klein changed my mind.
Bike Setup:
Stock except lost the stupid tires in exchange for a real set of nobbies.
Bottom Line:
Sweet bike. The unified triangle took some getting use to, But it is super plush. Climbs very well and handles sweet on tight technical single track. It is not as stable on fast fire road decents, however. Bottom line good cross country, average downhill. It sure gets the looks from your fellow riders. Its worth the price of admission for this reason alone.
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Submitted by
Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from Pasadena, MD Date Reviewed: December 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
!!!AVALON!!!
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1600.00
Purchased At:
Lutherville Bike Shop
Strengths:
Climbs like a mountain goat with his ass on fire. Light for a Full Suspension. Great Paint
Weaknesses:
Does not fit many hitch mounted racks.
Similar Products Used:
This is my first Full Suspension bike.
Bike Setup:
Stock except Time ATAC pedals; Avid Speed Dial 2.0l levers; some other unimportant upgrades.
Bottom Line:
I actually have the 99' model but there is no listing and since they are almost identical I figured I would post here. This bike is a lot of fun. It incorporates all the climbing ability of a Hard tail with the plush ride of a Full Suspension. It simply does not bob. No matter what! I did however break the rear triangle on a trip to Whitetail Ski Resort. I don't recall being that harsh on the bike but it snapped anyway. Klein did replace it for me but it took a little over 2 months. It seems they had to make me a new rear tringle from scratch. With some TLC this bike is a great all around ride. I give it 4 burning roadies.
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Submitted by
SJ
a Weekend Warrior
from Upstate NY Date Reviewed: November 27, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
-Simple design -LIGHT!!As in CRAZY light!! -Decent component spec -Avid brakes -Lookin' good -Very good Manitou SX fork -Goes uphill like crazy -Awesome Fox Float shock(is it 5" or 7" travel?I'm not sure..answers please?)
Weaknesses:
-The URT design bobs too much in OR out of the saddle -Asking price is a bit much($1,600?!) -Flat bars--it should come with risers -NOT a true Klein(should be badged as a Trek,but that I guess that brand doesn't have enough snob appeal) -The frame is not strong enough for freeriding,feels a little flexy to me
Similar Products Used:
Jamis Dakar Comp(AWESOME),Cannondale Super V400(pretty good,but overpriced and overrated)
Bike Setup:
This bike belongs to my rich cousin--he's into freeriding and BMX,and actually DOMNHILLS with this bike!I think he's frickin' crazy...Well anyway,he modified this bike by taking off the clipless pedals and replacing them with pedals and clips without the straps..I don't know why
Bottom Line:
Overall,I expected to be more impressed than I was.It felt way too bobby.It's also a special-purpose bike--the Mantra is more suited to the lycra-wearing crowd than to trailbike use.Its frame isn't very strong.I've heard lurid stories of the front section of the Mantra snapping like a toothpick under extreme abuse.My cousin actually uses this bike for DH..he must be out of his mind.This bike is a bit overpriced too.For the same amount of money,you could buy a Specialized Enduro FSR,or better yet a Jamis Dakar Expert,which would walk all over this bike.
But overall,the Mantra is pretty good.It's plush,the frame design is incredibly simple(only one ball-bearing pivot),it's light,and it's got a pretty good component mix.But I'm not all that wowed by the Mantra..for the money,I expected better.
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Submitted by
Paul Mills
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, TX, USA Date Reviewed: November 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Ho Chi Min, RHR, Emma Long
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Bike Barn in Rice Village (awesome LBS)
Strengths:
frame design is simple and beautiful, upgradable but decent components (XT/LX, Avid, Answer, Fox)
Weaknesses:
Icon seatpost
Similar Products Used:
old-school fixed frame/forks only
Bike Setup:
Stock 2000 base model (the sweet black one) with upgrades: Specialized comfort seat, Thomson Elite seatpost, 2000 upgraded Manatou Mars C carbon fork
Bottom Line:
This is the bike on which I've rediscovered my love of mountainbiking. Having previously only ridden fixed frame/fork bikes, I've enjoyed the plush ride of having shocks on both ends of this bike tremendously. I've ridden it a lot over the year I've owned it, and although I don't have much basis for comparison, I'm very pleased with the Mantra.
I was initially drawn to the Klein because of its elegant unified rear triangle (URT) frame design - simple and beautiful. Since the bottom bracket is on the pivoting URT and not fixed in relation to the seat and handlebars, the bike will give a slight 'inchworm' or 'pogo' effect when the rear shock compresses and decompresses. By pumping up the rear shock you can stiffen the suspension and minimize this effect. Although I haven't ridden enough other full suspension bikes enough for a good basis of comparison, I have not found the URT inchworm effect to be a significant detriment. It rides and climbs quite smoothly.
Interestingly, Klein is moving away from the URT in its 2001 line - the new Adept is akin to the Gary Fisher Sugar. I can't wait to try one out for comparison, but I can't see myself wanting to dump my Mantra.
Okay - the stock compontents - the base model has some parts that you may want to change out. Although I paid more than some people who seem to have gotten late season closeout prices, I was successful in negotiating with the bikeshop to swap out the seat and tires when I bought the bike.
The biggest failure was the Icon seatpost, which although is lightweight and has a seductive grey carbon color, is pure junk. No matter how hard you tork down the bolt, the seat cradle will eventually slip on hard bumps. I've recently upgraded to a Thomson Elite. I just hope the Icon handlebar, stem, and crankset don't crap out on me like the seatpost! I've noticed that Klein has switched to Bontrager on its 2001 bikes - good move.
I'm also upgrading the 2000 Manitou SX fork to a 2000 Manitou Mars C carbon fork - not because the SX is bad, but because I wanted a lighter fork with more adjustability.
I will also upgrade the shifters, deraileurs, and brakes as they wear out.
Bottom line - although I haven't compared the Mantra to other bikes, I'm very pleased with its quality and performance.
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Submitted by
Shane
a Cross Country Rider
from VA Date Reviewed: October 23, 2000
Favorite Trail:
The fast ones
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Strengths:
Great climbing F/S bike. Handles speed well and soaks up the rough.
Weaknesses:
Brakes. For such an otherwise decked bike, Klein could have put on something other than Avid SD10.
Similar Products Used:
Only Hardtails.
Bike Setup:
Standard
Bottom Line:
This bike takes a little getting used to. Took a number of rides to find the bikes balance in a variety of situations. Now however, I'm in love. The steeps get better with time logged on the Mantra (at first very scary, almost like your going over the top). The tires, Bontrager Superstock, are fast (most complain they dont grab) and with time you will adjust your riding to fit the speed of the tire. (At first I hated the tire, now - I love). The brakes however--well just suck. I have to adjust after almost every hard ride. Working on what I will upgrade too. Got to do something with the brakes. Overall, I'm riding better than ever and without the pains of a hardtail. Would buy bike again in a second. Great ride if your willing to learn the bike.
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Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Angeles, CA, USA Date Reviewed: October 16, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$940.00
Purchased At:
SuperGo
Strengths:
Artistic and unique design, good stock components, lite weight, plush ride, good ground clearance and size, the bulkyness best fit big and tall people. (Quick note: This bike should be named Trek-Mantra.)
Weaknesses:
In general... none.
Personal opinion/preferences: Its a Trek, not a Klein, I bought it because its a fine bike at a great price, not for its name. And come to think of it, Klein (having being quite conservative with their designs) wouldn't have designed a bike like this one. Origional price (MSRP) - $1,580, I don't think so, $1,200 would be more reasonable. Breaks and shifting cables - the frame is HUGE! Is it possible to run the cables inside the frame like how Klein used to do it traditionally with their hard tail & street bikes? 27 speed - I think 21 speed would be sufficient. Flat bar - might want to upgrade it to a riser. Water bottle cage/tire pump holder bracket - I tried to install my tire pump onto the brackets on the underframe, it was a waste of time, water bottle cage & some battery pack for head lights only.
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher, Specialized, GT
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
My understanding is that Trek has bought out Klein a while back, and if I am wrong, please notify me and keep me updated. Trek did a fine job sustaining Klein quality. If their corporate sponsors/CEOs thought slapping on the Klein name would increase sales, then that's what they have to do. But I still would have purchased this bike if it bared the Trek logo & name.
Here is an interesting thought... take a look at the 2001 Klein full suspension line up. Looks like Trek/Klein is either phasing out or abandoning the Mantra design. That might say something about the over-all performance and efficiency (the ride and or the manufacturing cost) of the Mantra design which I am unaware of.
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Submitted by
Rick
a Cross Country Rider
from Cleveland, OH Date Reviewed: October 15, 2000
all '99 stock 'cept: Grip Shift 7.0/9.0, Time pedals, Ti SDG Bel-Air seat
Bottom Line:
I found a new '99 & fell in love with it. Can not beat this bike for grace under pressure! Allows me to ride through the stuff I couldn't before & longer without soreness! Climbs like crazy! I'm a smaller rider....5'8" & 165 Lbs. The bike does not feel like 27 lbs.....the rear suspension eats up everything and lets me get away with stuff I couldn't on other bikes. This is one sweet ride! Feel like I'm holding it back instead of the other way around. If you can find one for the price I paid, get it! This baby doesn't stay in the garage!
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Eric
a Cross Country Rider
from Tustin,Califprnia Date Reviewed: October 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Alisowoods,Peters canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Supergo-F.V
Strengths:
Front shock,components,Klein Quality
Weaknesses:
stock tires,stock pedals
Similar Products Used:
Have ridden hardtail only Cannondale
Bike Setup:
Stock except raptor tires and shimano 535 clipless
Bottom Line:
Climb Climb Climb..This bike 5lbs heavier than my hardtail and can smoke it up the steepest of climbs,Was not a F/S fan,what was I thinking.I would never go to hardtail after this bike.Have added 10mphs on downhill,and average 3-4mphs more per XC ride.Great bike with good components,Handles rough terrain smoother than my truck.Explosive climber and can downhill with total confidence.I am 220lb rider and this bike can hang with me.I got a great deal at supergo 869.00.I would pay the 1500.00 this bike is sold for.If you like to ride alot and ride hard don,t hesitate.Any bike other than this is doing your riding a great dis-service.Sometimes more expensive ain't better.Thank you Klein for a A-one F/S bike that changed my mind on F/S..
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Submitted by
Ed
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston Date Reviewed: September 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
the dark rock
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Strengths:
Looks, Weight, Climbing ability
Weaknesses:
Stock tires, stock flat bar
Similar Products Used:
Many
Bike Setup:
stock except for riser bars and panaracer fire xc pro tires
Bottom Line:
Well I've had this bike for a few months now. The more I ride it the more I love it. She is very fast on single track and if you like to climb this is your ride. With my old bike/pig I was always at the back of the pack, now with my Mantra I'm leading the group instead of following it. This bike is very strong and has survived quite a few wrecks with no damage. This is a true Cross Country animal. Congratulations to Klein for making such a great bike!
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Ad Racer
a Cross Country Rider
from SF Bay Area Date Reviewed: September 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Anything with lots o' climbing
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Climbs great for a full suspension bike. You get the benefits of a full suspension without sacrificing the climbing ability of a hardtail. This IS the full suspension bike for people who do not like full suspension bikes!
Weaknesses:
It takes a while to dial this bike in to be fully comfortable and efficient. Tires are tractionless.
Similar Products Used:
GT XCR 3000, GT Avalanche (test road both several times). The XCR is too "bouncy" during pedaling and the Avalanche is too harsh on boulders and roots.
Bike Setup:
2000 Mantra with Azonic riser bars, Thompson Elite layback seatpost, Panaracer Fire XC tires
Bottom Line:
When I first bought this bike I had an awful time getting it set-up correctly. I was not wildy happy with it the first few weeks. But now I have it dialed in correctly and it is the bomb. I raced in an adventure race this past weekend and it had 60 km of climbing and my team (all with Klein bikes) blew past everbody up the hill - the hardtails were left in our wake. This thing chews up the nastiest singletrack. It is made for rocky, rooted trails. The bike absorbs the ground clutter and allows you to keep on pedaling not matter the terrain. This bike absolutely rules. It you are looking for a full suspension bike to take the edge off rough, rocky singletrack trails, but still want to be able to climb like you are on a hardtail - this is your bike!!!!! Klein should rename the company "Climb" rather than "Klein"
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Submitted by
kim jennings
a Downhiller
from steamboat springs Date Reviewed: August 19, 2000
Favorite Trail:
pete;s wicked trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
steamboat ski and bike kare
Strengths:
tires ,grips and forks
Weaknesses:
way to heavy for downhill for a women,i can;t seem to get it to find the grooves on the root and rocky areas.doesn't handle well in the sandy areas.
Similar Products Used:
i should have went with the trek or specialized
Bike Setup:
stock ,i like the grips, they hold firm.
Bottom Line:
looking for some one to ride steamboat and the surrounding area with, it;s a good bike over all, but way to heavy for a petite girl.i like the full suspension, and the seat feels good. e-mail me if you want to ride.
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Submitted by
HT
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, TX, USA Date Reviewed: August 13, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Bad @ss frame design Lightweight Plush ride
Weaknesses:
My bike didn't come with a rear shock pump Tires could be better
Similar Products Used:
First full suspension
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I wouldn't hesistate to buy a Klein MTB in the future. This bike is built like a champ and rides like one too. Hands down this was well worth the $1400 I paid for it. Test ride one and you'll understand.
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Submitted by
David
a
from Mountain View, CA Date Reviewed: August 7, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Saratoga Gap
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
FRAME!!! I like the single pivot design. Most of the stock componets are great.
Weaknesses:
I have the '99 and it came with the Manitou SXe, not a great front fork. Also, the brakes could use a little more bite.
Similar Products Used:
I test rode over 20 bikes, but this was the only that fit me right.
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I have only had the bike three months, but it's great in the single track, it climbs hard, and the full suspension allows me to do things I could never do before. To say it floats over the rough stuff would give the wrong impression, but it's the only way I can express it. I'm still playing around with seat height, but as a 180 lbs single track rider that like uphills, this is the bike! Even in the granny gear, I don't pop the front tire and I keep cranking the uphill. I haven't ridden much in the past two years and yet the bike doesn't punish me at all. It was a hard call to make the jump from a no-suspension to a full-suspension bike, but I'm glad I did it. I got my bike for $1100 on sale so I've given it 5 chilis for value, overall it defintely gets 5 CHILIS!!!
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Submitted by
Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from Il Date Reviewed: August 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
the Snakeback
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
to many to list
Weaknesses:
flat bar
Bottom Line:
This bike is sweet. It rides fast and climbs very well. I am totally happy with this purchase. The suspension is nice and soft but not too soft. The look of the bike is awsome, and it rides as good as it looks!
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Josh
a Weekend Warrior
from Washington Date Reviewed: July 31, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Any and all
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Looks - Balance - strength
Weaknesses:
noe yet
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
I just got the bike and have ridden it only a few times but I have to say that this is one solid ride! This bike cruses down the single track and chews up the climbs. Downhills are fun too. This bike is so nice to look at as well as ride!
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Submitted by
Jonny
a Cross Country Rider
from VA Date Reviewed: July 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
All of them
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Frame, looks, and climbing abilities
Weaknesses:
flat bar
Similar Products Used:
many
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
This Klein is a work of art and truly a pleasure to ride. I love they way it floats up steep climbs as well as the way it rips downhill. This is the most agile bike i've owned. It's very responsive and handles well on all terrain. The suspension is very plush which helps on those epics rides. I fuly recommend this bike, it is so choice : )
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Submitted by
buzzy
a Downhiller
from steamboat springs,CO Date Reviewed: July 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Valley view and creek side
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Strong frame the hole bike rocks. its like riding a rail down the hill.takes the steeps nice
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
fisher f3
Bike Setup:
stock fat tread tires
Bottom Line:
Buy This Bike if you dont have one this company and frame style rocks the down hill. and yess it is a goat. for the price its a killer ride. If you can go carbon do that. watch out up hillers your on my roller coaster ;)
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Submitted by
Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from Cali Date Reviewed: July 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
All of them
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Design, Strength, Weight
Weaknesses:
None found yet
Similar Products Used:
Many
Bike Setup:
Stock except for riser bar and shorter stem
Bottom Line:
This bike rocks. I practically float uphill. I can get up and over terrain that I never could before on my old bike. They should have named this bike the Klein GOAT because it climbs so well. The looks of the bike are killer. Everyone that sees it stops and stares and tries not to drool. I have never been so happy with a bike before, I definitely make the right choice in getting this one, you will too.
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Submitted by
Michael
a Cross Country Rider
from Manhattan Date Reviewed: July 9, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Solid Frame, Climbs like a goat, Plush Suspension
Weaknesses:
No riser bar but thats about it
Similar Products Used:
Many
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
This bike is the smoothest FS out there. If you like riding the trails for hours at a time then this bike is for you. Its a pleasure to ride, this bike has grace and beauty, as well as strength. It's a well made machine. I am truly in love with this bike.
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Josh
a Cross Country Rider
from NJ Date Reviewed: July 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
hawthorne, Mercer Park, sourlands
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Finish is incredible, Great weld, Value, No more sore but, lol.
Weaknesses:
Haven't seen any yet I love this thing
Similar Products Used:
Fisher Joshua F3
Bike Setup:
All stock except tires wanted a little more aggresive for the climbs
Bottom Line:
I think this thing rocks after riding friends bikes and demoing a bunch this was the best you could do for anywhere near the price. Climbs great with the new tires like a mountain goat goes anywhere. I looked at like 20 other makes and this was it for me and the 27lbs doesnt feel like it on the trail.
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Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Wallkill Date Reviewed: July 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Stewart
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Strong Frame, Killer Looks, Single Pivot Climbs like a goat
Weaknesses:
Flat Bar, Front Derailuer
Similar Products Used:
Jamis, GT, Gary Fisher
Bike Setup:
Stock except for a Bonty Stem, Crowbar Riser, Sram 9.0 Gripshift,rear derailuer, and brake levers.
Bottom Line:
This bike glides, it literally floats over the toughest terrain with ease. I like the feel of the bike, it's very stiff yet flexes with the ground. It was a bit twitchy going fast downhill's in the beginning, but after a few rides I find that I'm going faster than I ever did before. All you have to do is be sure to keep your weight balanced and to keep your ass on the seat! This bike climbs the sickest, rockiest, rooted up trails like no other bike I've ridden before or since. I find that I can climb in a higher gear than I'm used to, and it's easier then ever. Overall this bike rocks, It's a solid design and a work of art.
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Submitted by
Robert Jones
a Cross Country Rider
from Stock ton Ca usa Date Reviewed: May 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Bullards Bar
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Tight single track rouher the better
Weaknesses:
Workmanship , lousy paint, warranty basicly none.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Full hot rod . It was less than 24lb xl frame
Bottom Line:
Paint fell off , Rear broke on the road,training. After months of haggling. They sent a used repainted frame with the wrong shock . they were not happy that the bike had been used off road.
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Submitted by
Anthony Jr.
a Weekend Warrior
from Chattanooga, TN, USA Date Reviewed: May 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Clear Creek
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Handmade, gorgeous paint, flawless workmanship, unique design and geometry.
Weaknesses:
If you don't like full-time full-suspension, it may not be your bag.
Similar Products Used:
This is my first FS bike.
Bike Setup:
Stock: Bonty hubs, rims, stem, riser bar, pedals; Manitou SX-E and Fox Float; LX up front, XT in the rear, LX crank.
Bottom Line:
I have a 99 model Mantra. It's pretty much the same as the 2k, but the boom is pearl white with red lettering. Also, some of the old Bontrager stuff (the stem for instance) was replaced with Icon stuff. The 99 also has mounts for disc brakes on the rear swingarm: a plus for adaptability, a minus for weight.
I'm six-feet tall and a bit over two hundred pounds, and let me tell you, my large frame Mantra is a godsend. Being the brutal, not-terribly-skilled rider I am, I use every bit of the Manitou's three inches on downhills, but the seven inches of travel in the rear has never been anything but plush, responsive, and reliable.
The bike is completely active. The rear suspension pushes the front suspension by way of the boom, and vice-versa. So if you dig that crazy, rear-suspension-disappears-when-you-stand kind of bike, or that just-a-little-rear-suspension-to-take-the-edge-off kind of bike, the Mantra is definitely not for you. What you lose in hardtail acceleration and precision you reap tenfold in comfort and forgiveness. Thanks to longer time in the saddle and bonus confidence in gnarly terrain, I don't regret an ounce of my bike's 27lbs.
As everyone else said, the paint and workmanship are absoultely top-notch. Say what you want about the good old US of A, we have a few people that know a few things about building bikes, and Gary Klein's staff is way high on the totem pole.
Trust this: If you want anything but a fully-active, full-suspension bike, then shop around. But if you ride the Mantra and like it, then save your nickels and dimes and buy it. It's certainly the best for some of us.
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Submitted by
Simon Buric
a Cross Country Rider
from Petersburg, WV, USA Date Reviewed: April 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all the fast and dangeroous ones
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Great handling and climbing abilites, the back sticks to the ground on tough downhills, capable jumper.
Weaknesses:
From time to time the rear swing arm will come loose and rattle, the E-type front der. is a little weak as to say I ripped my off by accident after the 3 month.
Similar Products Used:
Super-V-400, Trek VRX 400, Trek VRX 200
Bike Setup:
Race face cranks, the rest is factory and does quite well also.
Bottom Line:
The bottom line, a great looking and handling bike. The paint job on this bike is an eye piece. This bike will give you every bang for ou buck, its tough, reliable, everything you would want in an XC bike build for doing more than racing. Its a little heavy for racing but then agian ist not for racing.
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Johnny Fu
a Weekend Warrior
from Barrie, ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: April 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
The Big Kahoona
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
This bike is a fast climber and responds very well on the down hills, one time i pooed in the head set and it rode better because of that. but all said and done this bike likes to be riden hard and abused like your mom did the night before.
Weaknesses:
The poo in the head set kind of stinks after a while especially once you get the bike wet. If its funk you want is funk you get, the rear end squeeks a bit after a while and I had to get my friend to pee on the seat to soften it up a bit.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
lx xt drive train, tioga dh tires, fish net stockings, high heels.
Bottom Line:
bottom line is I love my bike, I sleep with a gun under my pillow and my bike next to me at night, a bit sick if you poo in the head set but you get used to the funk and your wife will too.
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Submitted by
pathar
a Cross Country Rider
from Farmington Hills, MI USA Date Reviewed: April 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Poto
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Great balance and decent enough components (check Klein Bikes for details) for the price (list $1599 but can be found for $100-$200 less). With its weight and aggressive geometry (I ate it on the demo drive descending a rutted hill behind the shop), it is intended for tighter single track which is ubiquitous in the metro Detroit area (Novi Tree Farm, Maybury, Highland Rec). Climbing is easy with no noticable bounce. When sitting on it, my body (78 kg) almost melted into the frame; you become part of the bike.
Weaknesses:
Frame pivot squeaked a little bit (that's what lube is for, right?).
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale V-800, Gary Fisher Sugar 2, Trek VRX-400
Bike Setup:
Stock from the shop (Cycle & Fitness USA!)
Bottom Line:
Classic Klein.
Meaning excellent aluminum (aircraft grade), welding (seamless) and paint (drool :-P). This configuration has been around a few years and is obviously proven (as is Cannondale's, only lighter).
This may not be the bike for heavier riders. Its very tight (my head is right over the front hub) so I wouldn't recommend it for first timers either. The components are OK (again, check Klein for list) but upgrade if you don't like 'em (or try the mantra comp; same frame & geometry).
This will be my first FS after years on a cro-mo Fisher hardtail (yes, I am purchasing it & will provide updates into the season). I just wanted to give my initial impressions as well as listed prices since MTBR doesn't have 'em.
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MARV
a Cross Country Rider
from QUEENS NY Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
RINGWOOD,NJ, ROCKY POINT, GREENBELT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
GREAT CENTER OF BALANCE, WHOLE DRIVE TRAIN ON THE SAME PIVOT POINT. SMOOTH RIDE IN ALL TERRAIN, MUD, RAIN, SNOW, ETC..
Weaknesses:
FRONT DERAILERS FOR MANTRA'S ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE ON THE MARKET DUE TO THE DIFFERENT SETUP FROM THE TRADITIONAL WAY. SOME BOTTOM BRACKETS ARENT COMPATIBLE DUE TO THE FRONT DERAILLER'S MOUNT BRACKET.
Similar Products Used:
CANNONDALE SUPER V 800 & 500, GARY FISHER JOSHUA F3
Bike Setup:
COMPLET XT BRAKE SYSTEM, XT REAR DERAILLER ,XTR FRONT WITH THE CARBON FIBER MOUNT, RACE FACE TURBINE LP CRANKS, XT SHIFTERS. CODA RISER BARS
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THIS BIKE KICKS MAJOR ASS!! RIDES LIKE A HARDTAIL WHEN YOU NEED ULTIMATE POWER TRANSFER. I'VE RIDDEN THIS BIKE THROUGH ALL TYPES OF TERRAIN AND IT KEEPS UP WITH ANY AND ALL BEATINGS THAT I GIVE IT. AS EVERYONE KNOWS, KLEIN IS KNOWN FOR INCREDIBLE PAINTJOBS AND UNIQUE FRAME DESIGN SUCH AS THE MANTRA. THE PURCHASE OF THIS KLEIN OVER ANY OTHER BIKE WAS THE BEST DECISION I'VE MADE WITHOUT A DOUBT. SO IF YA WANT STYLE AND PERFORMANCE, THERE'S NO OTHER BIKE FOR ME. P.S. GET YOUR BIKE FROM BRANDS CYCLE & FITNESS IN WANTAGH L.I. THEIR SERVICE AND PRICES ARE UNBELIEVABLE. THEY TAKE CARE OF MY BIKE MORE THAN I DO. TOP NOTCH SERVICE FOR A TOP NOTCH BIKE.
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